Topic: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. - page 113. (Read 636443 times)

I'm sure that a lot of the ''man made climate apocalypse" supporters also support the "transgender" fad that has been trending lately. Doesn't that make them "science deniers" as well?

Folks? What false social construct? I don't know to whom or what you are replying to...

 a false social construct with no scientific basis whatsoever. It exists, only because folks like you falsely opine that it does

Unless the vatican and (political) science have found the ultimate common ground...


 

Science, religion, and the sun have a long history of not mixing well.  The Catholic church has some famous examples of this

An emulsifier can be effective to some degree of getting oil and water to mix but the results are usually somewhat transient and incomplete.

It is not evidence of how goddamn science is supposed to work either...

There's no denying there's a definite link between rocks and cheese here.

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/31394/20150208/scientists-determine-that-life-possibly-exists-deep-beneath-earths-surface.htm

and the bacteria from cheese...


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2119557

EDIT:

If you need visual proof it's made of cheese wikipedia has a vast image library.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a1/Aragonite.jpg

If you drill down real deep and analyze the microbes that live down there with the microbes in cheese, I'll bet you'll find a great number of similarities.

Yeah, I bet a panel of geophysicists wouldn't want to hear from someone claiming the earth's core is made of  cheese, either.

You know, people being dismissive of your opinions and denying you the right to speak at conferences, isn't necessarily evidence of a goddamn conspiracy.  You have to consider the idea that maybe you're just plain wrong and they already know it and they don't want to waste any more of  their valuable time on you.

How climate-change doubters lost a papal fight









VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis was about to take a major step backing the science behind ­human-driven global warming, and Philippe de Larminat was determined to change his mind.

A French doubter who authored a book arguing that solar activity — not greenhouse gases — was driving global warming, de Larminat sought a spot at a climate summit in April sponsored by the Vatican’s Pontifical Academy of Sciences. Nobel laureates would be there. So would U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, U.S. economist Jeffrey Sachs and others calling for dramatic steps to curb carbon emissions.

After securing a high-level meeting at the Vatican, he was told that, space permitting, he could join. He bought a plane ticket from Paris to Rome. But five days before the April 28 summit, de Larminat said, he received an e-mail saying there was no space left. It came after other scientists — as well as the powerful Vatican bureaucrat in charge of the academy — insisted he had no business being there.

“They did not want to hear an off note,” de Larminat said.

The incident highlights how climate-change doubters tried and failed to alter the landmark papal document unveiled last week — one that saw the leader of 1 billion Catholics fuse faith and reason and come to the conclusion that “denial” is wrong.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/how-climate-change-doubters-lost-a-papal-fight/2015/06/20/86af3182-15ce-11e5-8457-4b431bf7ed4c_story.html

Next: Driving out the demons that both cause global warming skepticism and record cold around the world.

Catholic priests exorcise the entire country of Mexico as it seeks to drive out demons causing drug crime and violence
Daily Mail‎ - 8 hours ago

Catholic priests from around Mexico gathered at a central cathedral to do what they could to ...blah, blah and bleh

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3132975/Catholic-preists-exorcise-entire-country-Mexico-seeks-drive-demons-causing-drug-crime-violence.html

Paul Ehrlich Still Pushing Ecological Doomsday






So I read in the paper today that humans are causing a sixth mass extinction on the planet. Then, I see that one of the authors is Paul Ehrlich–author of the hysterically wrong The Population Bomb. But the article doesn’t mention that (in)famous book or Ehrlich’s history of hyperbolic ecological fear mongering. It simply identifies Ehrlich as a Stanford University professor and president of the Center for Conservation Biology.  That’s misleading by omission.  I checked other news reports, and they similarly merely refer to him as a professor, such as this one in the Telegraph:


Scientists at Stanford University in the US claim it is the biggest loss of species since the Cretaceous-Tertiary mass extinction which wiped out the dinosaurs 66 million years ago. “Without any significant doubt that we are now entering the sixth great mass extinction event,” said Professor Paul Ehrlich, at the Stanford Woods Institute for the Environment.


Doing that creates an illusion that Ehrlich would write an objective study. But Ehrlich is less a scientist than he is an ideologue who has made a good living off preaching doom and gloom for decades. And his prognostications are almost always wrong. For example, the Telegraph’s Tim Chivers penned a valuable column a few years ago outlining some of the panicked claims Ehrlich made in his book that proved to be hysterical rather than prophetic. From the column:


So, let’s take a look at some of his predictions, made in 1968:

1) “The battle to feed all of humanity is over. In the 1970s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now. At this late date nothing can prevent a substantial increase in the world death rate,” he said. He predicted four billion deaths, including 65 million Americans…

What actually happened: Since Ehrlich wrote, the population has more than doubled to seven billion – but the amount of food per head has gone up by more than 25 per cent. Of course there are famines, but the death rate has gone down. I don’t think a significant number of Americans have starved.

3) “By the year 2000 the United Kingdom will be simply a small group of impoverished islands, inhabited by some 70 million hungry people … If I were a gambler, I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000.”

What actually happened: I’m not hungry. I just ate. Are you hungry? Were you hungry in 2000, especially? Does England exist?



Here’s my point: You can’t report a doomsday story straight-faced as if Ehrlich doesn’t have a history. People know who Ehrlich is and many will–rightly or wrongly–discount the study precisely because we know that he has an ideological agenda. And then they moan that no one trusts “the science” anymore. This is an example of why–and why there is also so little trust remaining in the media.




http://www.nationalreview.com/human-exceptionalism/420082/paul-ehrlich-still-pushing-ecological-doomsday-wesley-j-smith

Welcome to the 6th mass extinction (which you caused, of course)








Mammals, birds and reptiles are disappearing from the planet so rapidly that a team of scientists concluded Friday that Earth is in the midst of a sixth mass extinction, one so dire that it could threaten the existence of humanity.

The scientific study, published Friday in the journal Science Advances, determined that animals are going extinct at a rate 100 times faster than normal if nature was on its regular course.

The joint study by scientists from the UC Berkeley, Stanford University and other research institutions said humans are polluting the ecosystem, destroying habitat and killing off species at a rate so rapid that the demise of animals like elephants, tigers, rhinoceros and others could occur within three human lifetimes.

“In real terms, we’re in trouble,” said Paul Ehrlich, a Stanford professor and president of the Center for Conservation Biology who co-authored the study. “This is another indicator that we are sawing off the limbs that we are sitting on.”



http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/6th-mass-extinction-under-way-may-put-humans-at-6338783.php

Wat?  Just because I'm a pessimist about the rest of you clowns and the probable results given how many people just refuse to admit there's a problem, does that mean I'm not allowed to take a little comfort in the thought that our species probably STILL won't go entirely extinct?

Hell, probably even the survivors after 90% of us die off will still be arguing about whether climate disruption  is our own fault or not and whether we need to change our lifestyle to avoid a disaster.

Scotland – June on track to be coldest in 43 years

JUNE 20, 2015

Scotland’s average temperature up until June 15 was 9.3C, two degrees below normal and the coldest June, July or August since June 1972, Met Office records show. Forecasters are predicting another 10 days of downpours from next week. But first, another cold front will bring cloud and scattered heavy showers tomorrow, followed by a wet Sunday with hail. Highs of 18C tomorrow will drop to 15C on Sunday.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/june-on-track-to-be-coldest-summer-for-40-years.129399539

THE MALDIVES HAS JUST BUILT ITS ELEVENTH AIRPORT. THAT’S HOW SCARED IT IS OF GLOBAL WARMING…





Great news from the scuba-diving tropical paradise Maldives. They’ve just opened another airport.

This means that the Indian Ocean island nation now has four international airports and seven domestic ones. Quite a lot for a country with a population of less than 400,000. Presumably they have high hopes for their tourist industry as they develop luxury resorts on ever more remote atolls.

I wonder if these Maldives realise just how lucky they are. For, by weird coincidence, in pretty much the same geographic region is another island nation with exactly the same name.

And this other Maldives is in deep trouble. Indeed, it is daily on the brink of disaster because of the constant threat that its low-lying coral atolls could be swamped by the rising sea levels caused by man-made climate change.

We know this because all the experts have been telling us so.

Here is a report from an Independent journalist who bravely flew to this tropical disaster zone last year and, at the risk of being drowned any second, stayed long enough to conduct an interview with its climate activist former president Mohamed Nasheed. (Nasheed was once described by British Prime Minister David Cameron as “my new best friend”.)

And still the waters rise. Nasheed, who has two daughters, insists the Maldives can function and survive, but not without major change here and globally. He is now campaigning for “climate justice”, and the planning for a forced, mass migration to higher ground, a future he says the Government is not facing up to…

Here’s Damian Carrington, in the Guardian, who was also lucky enough to speak to David Cameron’s best friend.

Mohamed Nasheed, whose advocacy as president put the Maldives on the climate change map, is uncertain. Asked for the odds of his grandchildren inheriting an inhabitable Maldives, he says: “50-50.”

And here’s AOL Travel in a piece called “Maldives to disappear soon due to climate change.”

Here’s the World Bank: “Climate change presents a challenge for every island in the Maldives, which all lie on the sea level. Any changes in the climate will greatly affect the Maldivian way of life.”

Here’s the UN Foundation: “Climate change is a serious threat to low lying islands like Maldives whose landmass is close to sea level. The projected rise in sea level over the next century due to climate change is commonly agreed to be about one meter.  The highest point on this island nation is one meter.  Learn more about the existential threat of climate change on this island and learn more about how the country is pressing for global action on climate change.”



And let us never forget the tragically moving, yet cheery-in-the-face-of-disaster underwater cabinet meeting staged by the Maldives government in 2009 to draw international attention to the terrible and imminent threat these poor islands face.





Luckily I have thought up a brilliant solution to this problem. Maybe the lucky Maldives (the thriving tourist paradise) could help the unlucky Maldives (the one about to be drowned by global warming) with money and material aid. Perhaps it could use its vast tourist revenues to mitigate against any problems caused by this terrible “climate change” thing. Perhaps it could use its 11 airports to help evacuate the other Maldives’ climate refugees.

This is the kind of joined-up thinking that helps save the world. Do you think I should suggest to the Vatican as a possible subject for the Pope’s next encyclical?




http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/06/19/the-maldives-has-just-built-its-eleventh-airport-thats-how-scared-it-is-of-global-warming/

Well, I asked The Book of Knowledge why don't proponents of population control show a good example and kill themselves and didn´t get any direct answer it seems but came across some interesting stuff all the same

Like

Obamacare Architect Says Society Would Be Better Off If People Died At 75

Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, brother of Rahm Emanuel, says that society would be far better off if people quit trying to live past age 75.  His new article entitled “Why I Hope To Die At 75” has the following very creepy subtitle: “An argument that society and families—and you - will be better off if nature takes its course swiftly and promptly”.  In the article, Emanuel forcefully argues that the quality of life for most people is significantly diminished past the age of 75 and that once we get to that age we should refuse any more medical care that will extend our lifespans.  This is quite chilling to read, considering the fact that this is coming from one of the key architects of Obamacare.  Of course he never uses the term “death panels” in his article, but that is obviously what Emanuel would want in a perfect world.  To Emanuel, it is inefficient to waste medical resources on those that do not have a high “quality of life”.  So he says that “75 is a pretty good age to aim to stop”.

Emanuel believes in this philosophy so much that he says that he would like to die at age 75.  Of course he has no intention of committing suicide, but if he happened to drop dead once he hits his 75th birthday he would be very happy about that.  The following is an excerpt from his new article… more

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-24/obamacare-architect-says-society-would-be-better-if-people-only-lived-age-75

Yes, this guy is a total nutjob.

But he also has the ear of the man occupying the White House. Cause and effect.

One of the creepiest things about the greenies is their affinity for death worship.  Whatever floats your boat dude.  To be blunt about it your Jim Jones couldn't come to soon for my tastes.  Most of us would be perfectly happy if you crackpots left us alone.

Eh. 

Yeah, there'll be some depopulation and tough stuff going on.  The Easter Island thing is actually pretty likely.

But one thing to remember.  The people of Easter Island?  Didn't quite go extinct.  Some of them survived, and their descendants are alive today.

So, sure, maybe 90% of everybody will die.  It doesn't mean things are hopeless.