Topic: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. - page 169. (Read 636458 times)

It just doesn't get any truer than this.  Unless you want to include big space rocks inbound.  I don't have a baseball bat big enough for those....

I'm going to cite one fact in opposition to a silly article, Willikon.

GRACE gravitational-recovery satellites showed sea-level falling from 2003-2009 (Cazenave et al., 2009).

Now it happens that gravitational measurements are incredibly sensitive.  

But your writers didn't shout "Sea Levels are Falling, Not Rising!"

Nope.  They spun the subject around to make it sound frightening.  But it's the exact reverse.....

When lying is endemic in science (or in reporting of science), we've got serious problems.  But they are problems in malfunctioning human brains, not in Gaia.

Things are somewhat improving though.  This article published in Science suggests dropping the "Global Temperature" unscientific measure for assessing "climate change."

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/10/01/wow-nature-article-suggests-ditch-the-2-c-warming-goal/

As I have previously commented a "global temperature" is not calculable and frankly, does not exist.  Yet multiple trillion dollar public policies are being crammed at populations based on these propagated myths. 

Global Warming Claims Another Victim… Gravity…




Gravity—yes, gravity—is the latest victim of climate change in Antarctica. That’s the stunning conclusion announced Friday by the European Space Agency.

“The loss of ice from West Antarctica between 2009 and 2012 caused a dip in the gravity field over the region,” writes the ESA, whose GOCE satellite measured the change. Apparently, melting billions of tons of ice year after year has implications that would make even Isaac Newton blanch. Here’s the data visualized.

It reminds me of those first images of the ozone hole, decades ago.

To be fair, the change in gravity is very small. It’s not like you’ll float off into outer space on your next vacation to the Antarctic Peninsula.

The biggest implication is the new measurements confirm global warming is changing the Antarctic in fundamental ways. Earlier this year, a separate team of scientists announced that major West Antarctic glaciers have begun an “unstoppable” “collapse,” committing global sea levels to a rise of several meters over the next few hundred years.


http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/09/29/antarctic_ice_melt_causes_small_shift_in_gravity.html

Mankind is the biggest threat to mankind.

good to see there are still reasonable peps like you.

I'm not a 'scientist' or 'climatologist' (aka glorified weatherman/woman) but I am fairly observant and try to avoid the bias of sites like reddit and ars.

Living in the North East U.S. I go out side in July it is 80F.  In January I go outside and it is 10F.   Next year I go out side in January it might be -10F and in July it is 105F.. thousands of years ago it was covered by a glacier.  they call it climate change or global warming.. I call it weather.. or seasons.

To deny climate change happens at all is just silly.  It happens.  It has been happening since forever.  At one time earth consisted of one land mass with a large ocean.   The land masses are still moving and will continue to do so.. I wonder if that has effect on climate?  These volcanoes erupting this month.. wonder if that will effect climate?

The problem is how much effect humans have had on the change in the climate and what the 'greenie weenies' want the climate to be? What would make them happy.  I've concluded that nothing will, it is this generations' power play.

farming changes the climate.  Eating meat changes climate... being a vegetarian changes the climate.. using coal electricity changes the climate... using 'green' energy (solar, wind, hydro) changes the climate.  pretty much everything we can do changes the climate. 

Personally I think the greenies should go back and work on things that they could really make a difference in.. like pollution, reducing waste and such.  Everyone likes green grass, clean water and clear skies.  Start in the nations that are now starting to industrialize like China, I haven't heard about large amounts of smog in the US in quite sometime (good job!)

There has been enough data either falsified or mishandled about climate change to seriously question the 'experts'.  Of course it doesn't help when they recruit spokesmen(woman) who are hypocrites on the matter.  It's like having Adrian Peterson teaching child discipline classes.  Just doesn't work

To call it the Largest threat to man kind is one of the dumbest things I've heard.  Humans adapt to climate.  If there is a flood you get out of the way or re-route it.  Things like asteroids hitting the earth, another world war, another plague, zombies  or another Star Trek movie directed by JJ Abrams are bigger threats.

TL;DR politicized science is not science.  Do your part by not polluting and reducing your waste and don't panic.  Just my opinion

I dunno how I feel about it.  On one hand, their posts were kind of dumb and unsubstantiated, but on the other hand, the moderators really shouldn't be moderating to that much of a degree

They believe they are. ArseTechnica...

those comments really tell alot when  conthose believers are fronted to the bare truth. such lack of empathy, pretending to know everything, i though people reading arsTech were a bit more smart than the average clueless joe.

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http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/09/this-year-sea-ice-records-are-being-set-in-the-antarctic/

What they are is far left radical ...

...Terrorists.



“Unless we announce disasters no one will listen.” - Sir John Houghton, first chairman of IPCC

“It doesn’t matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true.” - Paul Watson, co-founder of Greenpeace

“We’ve got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy.” - Timothy Wirth, President of the UN Foundation

“No matter if the science of global warming is all phony… climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.” - Christine Stewart, fmr Canadian Minister of the Environment

“The only way to get our society to truly change is to frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe.” - emeritus professor Daniel Botkin

Now that Mother Nature has lawyers representing her can she be sued for multiples of billions? The weight of Evolution and that thing called "death" are putting extra pressure on my mind everyday. M. N. Has been killing generations after generations of defenseless creatures for millions of years. None of them had a voice to say "Enough is enough! No one needs to be killed by a volcano or a stupid space rock" it is time to fight back people!

No Justice No Peace! Fight Mother Nature!

And it shall come to pass, that the Great God of Gov, shall roll back the waters of the oceans, and shall take bountiful sums from the populace, and make promises of a happy future, and the people shall be fucked.

I want to know something.  Can I buy some feet or inches of ocean rollback?  Like on a contract with a performance guarantee.  How much is a foot?  An inch?  Who will sell it to me?

lol its funny cause its true.

You pay taxes for this shit. Of course its your problem.

Wow climate believers are so kind and rational.

Conservative Website ‘The Federalist’ Targeted For Wikipedia Deletion After Criticizing Neil deGrasse Tyson


The Wikipedia page for the conservative online publication “The Federalist” was targeted for deletion following the site’s critical coverage of progressive scientist Neil deGrasse Tyson.

The Federalist’s Sean Davis recently pointed out that deGrasse Tyson, a climate change alarmist, appeared to use fabricated quotes in his public speeches, which he attributed to a newspaper, to a member of Congress, and to President George W. Bush. Davis followed up with a piece asking, “Why Is Wikipedia Deleting All References To Neil Tyson’s Fabrication?”

Federalist editors noticed Friday that Wikipedia’s entry for TheFederalist.com ”is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia’s deletion policy.” When The Daily Caller checked early Friday afternoon, the page was deleted. It was later restored, but is still being considered for deletion.

“That’s Wikipedia for you, man. They’re inclusive,” Federalist editor Ben Domenech told TheDC. “It seems to clearly be a reaction to our coverage of the Wikipedia process and how it was treating Neil deGrasse Tyson’s obviously fabricated quote from George W. Bush.”

The Wikipedia editor claimed that the more than year old conservative magazine site “does not pass the threshold for notability,” but Domenech doubted that explanation.

“I would never be in a cult unless it had schnazzy robes,” Domenech said, referring to deGrasse Tyson’s fan base. “Obviously Neil deGrasse Tyson is right, the science is settled, and we must be erased like we never even existed.”

“It’s not like the entry on us was all that informative, but the very fact we were on there was an insult to the Wikipedia community,” Domenech said. “This is like a birthday present to us. We”re irritating the right kinds of people, people who can’t even admit when their praised messiah is wrong about something. I’m glad we irritate them.”

“It’s funny to see how these Wikipedia crowds have gotten even more intense,” Domenech added. “Kevin Williamson was speaking at Heritage and pointed out that as the Left gets more exhausted it also gets more authoritarian. He was referring to Robert F. Kennedy Jr. saying that climate change deniers should be arrested. That sort of thing is something you see reflected on the Internet as well. They form these little mobs.”


http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/26/the-federalist-targeted-for-wikipedia-deletion-after-criticizing-neil-degrasse-tyson/

from https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8970015





Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Overheats at Climate Change March




The last thing a really wealthy liberal wants is to be taunted about the energy use – and the resulting costs to the environment – required to support their lavish lifestyles.

But that’s what Michelle Fields of PJTV did to Robert Kennedy Sunday at the climate change march in Manhattan.

And Kennedy, who must be far more accustomed to worshipful ass kissing, didn’t like it much, sticking his hands in Fields’s face and even at one point grabbing her microphone. She didn’t back away a bit, but presumably ended the interview at that point lest he launch a one man war on women against her.

http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2014/09/22/robert-kennedy-jr-overheats-climate-change-march/


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Moise?! ^^

+++ Excellent.

David Suzuki, a raving nutcase of Global warming, says this:

http://www.davidsuzuki.org/issues/climate-change/science/climate-change-basics/climate-change-deniers/

After 15 years of increasingly definitive scientific studies attesting to the reality and significance of global climate change, the deniers' tactics have shifted. Many deniers no longer deny that climate change is happening, but instead argue that the cost of taking action is too high—or even worse, that it is too late to take action. All of these arguments are false and are rejected by the scientific community at large.

Bolded above, is an outright lie.

It's well understood and totally obvious that for example, it's smarter to move where people live a few hundred yards from the ocean rather than try to make the ocean recede by reducing carbon put into the air, and supposedly move the ocean.

Anyone around here want to try to move the ocean?

Go ahead, be my guest.  Line up on the side with the guy that says you can.

Thank you