Topic: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. - page 18. (Read 636443 times)

Be reasonable. Think of how impossibly complicated life would be if we allowed regular people, such as yourself, to measure the temperature.

We'll do the temperature measurements.

We'll tell you how hot it is.

Now run along and go back to your life with the other deplorables.

Oh, and by the way. That chart doesn't mean what you think it means. Adjustment Staff here inform me that when the temperatures go down, that just means that much more warming is boiling in the pot, and when the lid flies off, it'll be that much more dramatic. So when you thought temperatures were down, that proves global warming.

Any other questions feel free to ask.

Bureau of Temperature Adjustments
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It's about "climate reconstruction" and "tricks" to explain a very complicated, almost magical science wizardry to the "uneducated peasants" "non expert audience".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3riDY_a9vVc

How things has changed for him... and not for the best.

You must just be ignorant. We got rid of that annoying Medieval Warmer Period and that Little Icy Age. If you don't believe, just go back to the primary source.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E42mIvjzRw

The Bureau of Climate Adjustments will take care of these matters.

New Study Proves Earth Was Warmer During Medieval Times



Typical of most such temperature series, it zigzags up and down while showing two rising trends: the first peaks about 1200 AD and corresponds with a period known as the Medieval Warm Period (MWP), while the second peaks in 1980 and then shows decline. In between, is the Little Ice Age (LIA), which according to the Northern Hemisphere composite bottomed-out in 1650 AD.  (Of course, the MWP corresponded with a period of generally good harvests in England – when men dressed in tunics and built grand cathedrals with tall spires.  It preceded the LIA when there was famine and the Great Plague of London.)

Ignoring for the moment the MWP and LIA, you might want to simply dismiss this temperature series on the basis it peaks in 1980: it doesn’t continue to rise to the very end of the record: to the year 2000.

In fact, this decline is typical of most such proxy reconstructions – derived from pollen, stalagmites, boreholes, coral cores and especially tree rings.  Within mainstream climate science the decline after 1980 is referred to as “the divergence problem”, and then hidden.

In denial of this problem, leading climate scientists have been known to even graft temperature measurements from thermometers onto the proxy record after 1980 to literally ‘hide the decline’.  Phil Jones, the head of the Climate Research Unit, University of East Anglia, aptly described the technique as a ‘trick’.

Grafting thermometer data onto the end of the proxy record generally ‘fixes’ the problem after 1980, while remodelling effectively flattens the Medieval Warm Period.

There are, however, multiple lines of evidence indicating it was about a degree warmer across Europe during the MWP – corresponding with the 1200 AD rise in our Northern Hemisphere composite.  In fact, there are oodles of published technical papers based on proxy records that provide a relatively warm temperature profile for this period.




https://www.spectator.com.au/2017/08/big-data-finds-the-medieval-warm-period-no-denial-here/





 

You are making too much science sense. Global warming is a religion. Wrong mosque.

That's idiotic.

Celestrial mechanics is clockwork-like, down to fractions of a second per year.

For more and more precise calculations of the position of the Moon, you simply add terms for the more subtle factors, and you get more precise. For example, you add a term for Jupiter, one for Saturn, on and on.

Adding terms to any climate science calculation doesn't give you a more precise result. Instead it tends to give a LESS precise result because of the multiplication of uncertainties latent in each term.

The link dates to an Onion page from those days.

How would you set in stone forever the total power of a group of humans controlling a maximum of other humans. One is controlling their health, when one can unplug them at any moment. The other one is to tax them for breathing and being alive. There is always a crisis one needs to solve or stop. The global warming hoax is a crisis that would stand until the end of time, if they can get through it, creating a permanent class of rulers and a world of slaves.

In Brave New World, what is each caste's designated color?

Each caste in Aldous Huxley's Brave New World is distinguished by the color of its work clothes. In order of caste from lowest to highest, Epsilons dress in black, Deltas wear khaki, Gammas wear leaf green, Betas dress in mulberry, and Alphas wear grey.

This color division system to differentiate castes is in place so that people can quickly and easily know what caste a person is in. The dystopian world described in Huxley's novel is very superficial, so of course they would use a superficial designation like color coding. It is surface-level symbolism, but also very effective psychologically. The world is also one that relies heavily on simplistic psychological conditioning, as seen with the Pavlovian type conditioning and the electric shocks.

https://www.enotes.com/homework-help/brave-new-world-what-each-castes-designated-color-69917

 

I remember when the onion used to be funny, before the black plague called political correctness...

Huge March against Global Warming!

http://www.theonion.com/article/nations-snowmen-march-against-global-warming-1880

"To defeat climate change, we need to change the climate."

Mmmkay

Has anyone considered the possibility that the climate changes anyway, and has since the earth's inception

Also has anyone considered the possibility that this is an excuse for more state power that can never be revoked due to the previous observation

"The climate is changing, we need to change the climate again to combat the changing climate"

[Does a lot of expensive and limiting things which may or may not have impacted the climate]

"Oh look the climate changed again, we need to change the climate again to combat the climate changing again"

Only thing that bugs me are all the people who buy into this nonsense who will never admit they may have been wrong.  There will be the new thing they can be useful tools for, and as soon as climate change ceases to be effective to get you to give up your power, it will go down the memory hole.

How....

How dare you...

Question the lunacy?

The Bloom is off the Ruse: Germany’s Angela Merkel Quietly Retreating From Paris Climate Treaty…



Angela Merkel is essentially the de-facto global head of modern political liberalism.  The central tenet, almost religious-based in its importance, is the lunacy within “climate change”.  However, as most reasonable people have concluded, the ‘climate discussions’ are more about controlled global economics than any actual concerns about planetary climatology.   Bottom line, it’s the economics that really matter beyond all else.

Backdrop – The day after President Trump announced his decision to withdraw from the Paris Climate Treaty, the German auto-sector immediately responded with a statement.  We see the immediate admission that ‘climate’ is simply a tool to shape global economics within that reactionary auto industry statement  (emphasis mine):

(Via Reuters) […] “The regrettable announcement by the USA makes it inevitable that Europe must facilitate a cost efficient and economically feasible climate policy to remain internationally competitive,” Matthias Wissmann, president of the German auto industry lobby group VDA, said in a statement on Friday.

“The preservation of our competitive position is the precondition for successful climate protection. This correlation is often underestimated,” Wissmann said, adding that the decision by the Unites States was disappointing.


As clearly stated, when push comes to shove German sensibilities are connected more to their economics than to any do-gooder need to save the planet.  This reality, in combination with upcoming German elections, sets the stage for Angela Merkel’s statement today, three months later:

BERLIN (Reuters) – German Chancellor Angela Merkel warned on Sunday against a swift abandonment of diesel cars after a series of emissions scandals, saying the fuel is still needed if climate change targets are to be met.

Speaking at a pre-election town hall event on RTL television on Sunday, Merkel called on German carmakers, all of which have been caught using workarounds to cheat nitrogen emissions tests, to work to re-establish public trust in diesel.


https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/08/20/the-bloom-is-off-the-ruse-germanys-angela-merkel-quietly-retreating-from-paris-climate-treaty/

140,000 Think Planting Trees Will Offset Trump’s Withdrawal From The Paris Climate Accord







Three climate scientists have started an initiative to plant more than 100 billion new trees to mitigate the environmental impact of President Donald Trump pulling the U.S. out of the Paris agreement on climate change, the BBC reports.

Current pledges to plant trees number about 140,000 from a little over 500 people, 0.0000014 percent of the #TrumpForest project’s ambitious goal, according to project’s website.

Project creators Dan Price of Britain, Jeff Willis of the U.S., and Adrien Taylor of New Zealand are encouraging twitter users to tag actor and environmental activist Leonardo DiCaprio in tweets to draw his attention to the project.

“We’ve met some of the people on the front lines of climate change in Bangladesh, Mongolia and in other countries, and we found it extremely upsetting that Mr. Trump’s ignorance is so profound,” Taylor told the BBC. “So we started to do something about it. Only a small percentage of the world voted him in, but we all have to deal with the consequences of his climate ignorance.”

The project began in March 2017 with the goal of planting enough trees that “the backward steps of the Trump Administration will be negated until a sane, logical government, that bases its decisions on scientific advice wins the next election,” the website says.

Trump pulled out of the Paris climate accord in June saying the withdrawal is “in America’s economic interest and won’t matter much to the climate.”

“This agreement is less about the climate and more about other countries gaining a financial advantage over the United States,” Trump told reporters.

A recent study found the chance of preventing temperatures from warming more than 2 degrees Celsius is just 5 percent under Paris climate regulations.

“Current [Paris Climate Accord] pledges need to be ratcheted up significantly to curb emissions quickly enough to remain below 2°C,” the Trump Forest website states.

After fielding criticism for naming the forest after Trump and feeding the president’s narcissism, the three climate scientists defended the name saying they want him to “love the forest,” according to the BBC.

“If he wants to take ownership of this forest just like Trump vodka and Trump Tower, we would welcome that; the phone line is open,” Price told the BBC.


http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/15/140000-think-planting-trees-will-offset-trumps-withdrawal-from-the-paris-climate-accord/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

Where exactly is the absolute desperation?

I only see that in the attitude of Warmers, desperate to keep their stupidity in front of everyone.

A is right.
And all articles says so. What would be wrong would be to claim that it's all because of global warming because we still can't say if it's the case as it's too early.

Isn't how the concept of Science is described?


Science (from Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge")[1][2]:58 is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe.[a]

Contemporary science is typically subdivided into the natural sciences, which study the material universe; the social sciences, which study people and societies; and the formal sciences, which study logic and mathematics. The formal sciences are often excluded as they do not depend on empirical observations.[3] Disciplines which use science, like engineering and medicine, may also be considered to be applied sciences.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science

The interesting part to me is the absolute desperation in your replies trying to convince someone that you are far beyond everyone's understanding.  I started pointing out things changing in major ways, but you'll find some little bit of evidence countering some scientist's claims at some point.

NYT’s ‘Leaked’ Bombshell Climate Report Was Actually Public For Months


A draft government climate assessment The New York Times “obtained” and claims is not yet public has actually been available online since January, according to scientists who worked on the report.

TheNYT reportedly obtained a draft copy of the upcoming National Climate Assessment (NCA), quoting unnamed scientists who feared “the Trump administration could change or suppress the report.” TheNYT also reported that global warming skeptics were “equally worried that the draft report, as well as the larger NCA, will be publicly released.”

However, the draft NCA has been online since January. A couple of the scientists who worked on the NCA took to Twitter to let people know the draft has been online for months, despite TheNYT’s reporting.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/08/nyts-leaked-bombshell-climate-report-was-actually-public-for-months/



Gore’s new movie: an ‘inconvenient bomb’ at the box office


The numbers for weekend movie sales are in, and Al Gore’s new movie, a sequel to An Inconvenient Truth, called An Inconvenient Sequel: Truth to Power  (AIT2) tanked at the box office this weekend according to numbers gathered by movie sites “Box Office Mojo” and IMDB.

The opening weekend for any new movie is usually when the public, rife with anticipation, lines up to buy tickets at theaters. In this case, the opening weekend seemed to signal a major lack of interest on the part of the public, but more importantly, lack of interest in promoting the film by the studio itself, Paramount, who limited the opening weekend to just 4 theaters nationwide.

According to Box Office Mojo, AIT2 opened in just 4 theaters, and earned a measly $124,823.00 and put it at number 28, well behind other movies opening that weekend:


https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/08/01/gores-new-movie-an-inconvenient-bomb-at-the-box-office/