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Topic: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. - page 20. (Read 636443 times)

legendary
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^^^ Vampires really hate the light of day.
newbie
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it does not stand up to scrutiny! truth  does not fear investigation!!
legendary
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So banning should re enforced for the non believers then. Get it. Should we ban all of those who not only do not believe in bitcoin or all of those creating altcoins on bitcointalk?

It is a privately owned site so the owners can do what they want with it. I understand the frustration, you want healthy conversations from both sides, but it's still their site.

It is important to understand the difference between critical thinking and understanding and mindless following and obeying.

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So banning should re enforced for the non believers then. Get it. Should we ban all of those who not only do not believe in bitcoin or all of those creating altcoins on bitcointalk?

It is a privately owned site so the owners can do what they want with it. I understand the frustration, you want healthy conversations from both sides, but it's still their site.
legendary
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The thing about science is that it uncovers the truth sooner or later.  So if there is no global warming due to our human activity, it will be discovered.  Science cannot be involved in politics or religion for too long.  Sooner or later the truth will come out.

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Be that as it may, do you think the law and policy built on top of this human-caused climate change fraud with the stated goal of 'saving the planet' are going to be rolled back?  You think the billions of dollars spent on the wind and solar boondoggles under the same fraudulant scammery are going to be clawed back?

Don't stay up nights waiting for it.

legendary
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Research Team Slams Global Warming Data In New Report: “Not A Valid Representation Of Reality… Totally Inconsistent With Credible Temperature Data”


As world leaders, namely in the European Union, attack President Trump for pulling out of the Paris Climate Agreement which would have saddled Americans with billions upon billions of dollars in debt and economic losses, a new bombshell report that analyzed Global Average Surface Temperature (GAST) data produced by NASA, the NOAA and HADLEY proves the President was right on target with his refusal to be a part of the new initiative.

According to the report, which has been peer reviewed by administrators, scientists and researchers from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), The Massachusetts Institute of Technology (M.I.T.), and several of America’s leading universities, the data is completely bunk:

In this research report, the most important surface data adjustment issues are identified and past changes in the previously reported historical data are quantified. It was found that each new version of GAST has nearly always exhibited a steeper warming linear trend over its entire history. And, it was nearly always accomplished by systematically removing the previously existing cyclical temperature pattern. This was true for all three entities providing GAST data measurement, NOAA, NASA and Hadley CRU.

As a result, this research sought to validate the current estimates of GAST using the best available relevant data. This included the best documented and understood data sets from the U.S. and elsewhere as well as global data from satellites that provide far more extensive global coverage and are not contaminated by bad siting and urbanization impacts. Satellite data integrity also benefits from having cross checks with Balloon data.

The conclusive findings of this research are that the three GAST data sets are not a valid representation of reality. In fact, the magnitude of their historical data adjustments, that removed their cyclical temperature patterns, are totally inconsistent with published and credible U.S. and other temperature data. Thus, it is impossible to conclude from the three published GAST data sets that recent years have been the warmest ever –despite current claims of record setting warming.

Finally, since GAST data set validity is a necessary condition for EPA’s GHG/CO2 Endangerment Finding, it too is invalidated by these research findings.


http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/research-team-slams-global-warming-data-in-new-report-not-a-valid-representation-of-reality-totally-inconsistent-with-credible-temperature-data_07142017
https://thsresearch.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/ef-gast-data-research-report-062717.pdf


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Somebody with a hockey stick in his closet could end up in jail for fraud...




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMqc7PCJ-nc
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Research Team Slams Global Warming Data In New Report: “Not A Valid Representation Of Reality… Totally Inconsistent With Credible Temperature Data”


As world leaders, namely in the European Union, attack President Trump for pulling out of the Paris Climate Agreement which would have saddled Americans with billions upon billions of dollars in debt and economic losses, a new bombshell report that analyzed Global Average Surface Temperature (GAST) data produced by NASA, the NOAA and HADLEY proves the President was right on target with his refusal to be a part of the new initiative.

According to the report, which has been peer reviewed by administrators, scientists and researchers from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), The Massachusetts Institute of Technology (M.I.T.), and several of America’s leading universities, the data is completely bunk:

In this research report, the most important surface data adjustment issues are identified and past changes in the previously reported historical data are quantified. It was found that each new version of GAST has nearly always exhibited a steeper warming linear trend over its entire history. And, it was nearly always accomplished by systematically removing the previously existing cyclical temperature pattern. This was true for all three entities providing GAST data measurement, NOAA, NASA and Hadley CRU.

As a result, this research sought to validate the current estimates of GAST using the best available relevant data. This included the best documented and understood data sets from the U.S. and elsewhere as well as global data from satellites that provide far more extensive global coverage and are not contaminated by bad siting and urbanization impacts. Satellite data integrity also benefits from having cross checks with Balloon data.

The conclusive findings of this research are that the three GAST data sets are not a valid representation of reality. In fact, the magnitude of their historical data adjustments, that removed their cyclical temperature patterns, are totally inconsistent with published and credible U.S. and other temperature data. Thus, it is impossible to conclude from the three published GAST data sets that recent years have been the warmest ever –despite current claims of record setting warming.

Finally, since GAST data set validity is a necessary condition for EPA’s GHG/CO2 Endangerment Finding, it too is invalidated by these research findings.


http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/research-team-slams-global-warming-data-in-new-report-not-a-valid-representation-of-reality-totally-inconsistent-with-credible-temperature-data_07142017
https://thsresearch.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/ef-gast-data-research-report-062717.pdf


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Somebody with a hockey stick in his closet could end up in jail for fraud...


legendary
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^^^ Use of the scientific method is absolutely forbidden at NASA.
legendary
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I know, but some people you have to slap them with the truth until they get it.

...i also havent been around too much...real life shit sucks
It seems to me that you need to prove the opposite If you have such thoughts. If there is an opponent, then it means that you need to defend your point of view.

Given the sheer idiocy demonstrated by perverted liberal authoritarian controller wannabes who latched onto the Global Warming bandwagon, I'd say a good bitch slapping is in order.

They are and always were the true deniers of science and the scientific method.
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I know, but some people you have to slap them with the truth until they get it.

...i also havent been around too much...real life shit sucks
It seems to me that you need to prove the opposite If you have such thoughts. If there is an opponent, then it means that you need to defend your point of view.
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I know, but some people you have to slap them with the truth until they get it.

...i also havent been around too much...real life shit sucks
legendary
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I believe those scientists who say that the climate of our planet is changing. We constantly see the consequences of these changes. I was shocked when Trump refused to respond to warnings of scientists. Now they must declare him the silent treatment.

Mann has been proven to be a fraudster.

https://realclimatescience.com/the-100-fraudulent-hockey-stick/
legendary
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http://principia-scientific.org/breaking-fatal-courtroom-act-ruins-michael-hockey-stick-mann/



Breaking: Fatal Courtroom Act Ruins Michael ‘hockey stick’ Mann

Wow, the nerve of that guy Mann.

Refusing a direct order from the court to hand over his data for examination -


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I believe those scientists who say that the climate of our planet is changing. We constantly see the consequences of these changes. I was shocked when Trump refused to respond to warnings of scientists. Now they must declare him the silent treatment.
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It's just like Neil De Grasse Tyson said

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Science is a fundamental part of the country that we are. But in this, the 21st century, when it comes time to make decisions about science, it seems that people have lost the ability to judge what is true and what is not.

Some people starts denying it just because they don't understand it technically. The role of science is to make and show some facts that it is actually happening and it goes to the politics to serve as a fact. Knowing the facts isn't enough, everyone should do and make some action.

That is the thing though. Many scientists are funded by whatever corporation and a lot of the peer reviewed stuff is never fully used on anything.

In similar studies and peer reviews for I think it was the meat industry and effects on meat linking with causing higher rates of cancer, there was something like 80% of peer reviewed things had to be thrown out because it was all paid for peer reviewed stuff.

There is a major effort to to fund research and that research is misleading. Look at the huge lies going on with GMOs saying they aren't a problem. The problems with more and more people having birth defectsi are correalated to that and +due to the  chemicals and fertilizer we are using to grow food and hormones on animilas. That is all having a real impact. We are eating animals and food that have extra chemicals that we ourselves would not put on our food in the first place.

The sciencetists who all supposedly agreed on the 97% climate thing was wrong. If you do a little bit of research you will find that what really happened is someone went through thousands of peer reviewed things, found that a bunch of them agree climate cange is real, then they turned around and said climate change is mainly due to man. Almost none of those peer reviewed papers say that, so much lying goes on that a majority of scientists had to come out and say no we didn't say manmade global warming is causing this. It is all about money. Al Gore and his efforts make him hundreds ofmillions a year. Hucksters.
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legendary
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A lot of research is paid by big companies. We often see the statements of scientists in their interests. Hosts the whole PR of the company in the interests of producers. I don't really trust the conclusions of these scientists. This year in my country, on the contrary colder than usual.

well we believe it or not, climate change is happening and its happening now. if you compare what's going on with the climate from like 30years ago to now, we can't deny that there is a significant change and it turning for the worse. hopefully we can all take this seriously and in time before it's too late

You mean you can't deny there has NOT BEEN ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.

Since 1997, there has been no significant increase in global average surface temperature, and some areas — notably the Northern Hemisphere — have actually cooled. The 2,200-page new Technical Report attributes that to a combination of several factors, including natural variability, reduced heating from the sun and the ocean acting like a “heat sink” to suck up extra warmth in the atmosphere.

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/10/01/global-temperature-standstill-may-last-30-years-climate-scientist-predicts-prof-anastasios-tsonis-at-the-university-of-wisconsin-milwaukee-i-would-assume-something-like-another-15-years/
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A lot of research is paid by big companies. We often see the statements of scientists in their interests. Hosts the whole PR of the company in the interests of producers. I don't really trust the conclusions of these scientists. This year in my country, on the contrary colder than usual.

well we believe it or not, climate change is happening and its happening now. if you compare what's going on with the climate from like 30years ago to now, we can't deny that there is a significant change and it turning for the worse. hopefully we can all take this seriously and in time before it's too late
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