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Quote from: Little Mouse on September 19, 2020, 08:54:21 AM

Quote from: jackg on September 19, 2020, 08:19:53 AM

We're certainly very far from the 2017 levels, there's probably fewer bounties and stuff now too to keep people here.

There are more than enough bounties there but they are not enough worthy to join. Very few bounties hit listing nowadays and even if they get listed, the payment is too low. This has been the regular scenerio of bounty since late 2018 which can be a reason of getting activity reduced.
Regarding quality, I think very few people are here with the motivation of learning about bitcoin, crypto, building business on crypto etc. Most people are motivated with the financial gain. That's why there is lack if quality discussion.

Most people are motivated with financial gains because this forum gives you a possibility of that and there are a lot of people from poor countries and find bitcointalk as a great way of earning money, you post from home, manage your time and get money. We can't blame them because forum gives them this possibility and it's a part of freedom too.

There is reduces forum activity because it's not 2017 when mining still was a new thing for people and almost everyone was looking for asic miners, GPUs and so on. Also 2017 was the time when bitcoin had unbelievable rise in price and in overall, 2017 was the best and peak time of bitcoin. A lot of things have happened after that like implementation of KYC documents, mining turned into commercial business (check shady behaviors of Bitmain), media doesn't talk about bitcoin and crypto as it was talking in past, a lot of people bought bitcoin during it's peak price and lost a lot of money and lost hope in it. There are still many things to write but I personally really miss 2017 year, it was the greatest time.

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So why did you join? Oh wait! You are probably an alt, and that leads us to another question.

Why do so many new alts start with an ICO? ICO = Initial Crap Offering.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on September 26, 2020, 03:04:27 AM

Well "Very Well Endowed" seems to have killed this thread.

I don;t know why people stay and continue to post if they think the forum is so bad. If a forum starts to have no value for me, then I just move on. Bitcoin Talk seems to be changing, but it still has some great members contributing, and I am pleased to have access to their knowledge and opinions. The world of crypto is changing and expanding quite rapidly at the moment. If you aren't taking advantage of it, then you are missing out on a life changing opportunity. Discussion in this forum will help all of us establish ourselves in the new world that is emerging.

Very Well Endowed bestowed the only real life, light and value upon your groping in the dark thread.
You don't want to accept those ideas as valuable because of the origin.
Grow up at 84 years old and stop crying when people demonstrate your ideas are not especially useful and gift you some that may be.
Accept that at 84 if you've not made it then there is probably a good reason for that.

Now again, demonstrate why my suggestions are " killing your thread " and not actually providing much needed value.
That is a direct challenge. Of course you will run away from that.
If you were less hostile and not such a cry baby then I wouldn't need to be so critical.

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Quote from: bitcoinsvrocks on September 25, 2020, 09:08:21 AM

I been trying to say like five times now that the signatures are a problem because they generate spam.
Spam reduces forum activity.
Because spam is annoying.

Nobody would post here other than maybe 5 or 10 people if there were no signatures.

Signatures brought life to this forum.

Dealing with spam is the mods job. If mods delete every shit-post there is and ban whoever keeps posting shit, it would be a self-correcting problem.

tldr;

signatures are good
spam is bad

signatures bring spam but;

sigCamp != spam when mods delete spam.

forum needs more signature camps to revive itself.

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Well "Very Well Endowed" seems to have killed this thread.

I don;t know why people stay and continue to post if they think the forum is so bad. If a forum starts to have no value for me, then I just move on. Bitcoin Talk seems to be changing, but it still has some great members contributing, and I am pleased to have access to their knowledge and opinions. The world of crypto is changing and expanding quite rapidly at the moment. If you aren't taking advantage of it, then you are missing out on a life changing opportunity. Discussion in this forum will help all of us establish ourselves in the new world that is emerging.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on September 25, 2020, 09:06:05 AM

I'm intelligent enough to realise that making a full quote immmediately after a post .would make me look stupid
I'm also intelligent enough to put you on ignore

Only in the diseased mind of an 84 year old sitting there with his happy meal to obtain some internet access.

Now be sensible

Tackle my points or accept these are the truths you seek.
If you can refute conclusively those points I will ask MD to lower the requirement from happy meal to small fries for your free wifi.

Ignore on meta aka I am scared of the truths you present that reveal my posts as downright silly.

Can you seriously find a fault with my suggestions.
Yes or no. If so present your case.

Are you interested in growing the activity of the forum or just want to play at making silly threads that will achieve nothing?

Some old dogs like to learn new tricks. Come on jetcash expand your horizons. Stick with me and you'll be dining on big macs and large fries even a choc shake now and then?

Which of my points were you intelligent enough to pretend to ignore?

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I been trying to say like five times now that the signatures are a problem because they generate spam.
Spam reduces forum activity.
Because spam is annoying.

Nobody understand it, so i been trying to explain the same thing with other words, not trying to push my agenda to ban signatures, just pointing out that they are annoying. and i been called names and that i should disable signatures and that i should do other thing to bypass the spam.

I also pointed out that this conversation is pointless because most of the members are worried because the reduced activity in the forum and they are of course worried because they will lose their income once this forum dies.

I also pointed out that those members who are running the spam signature are slowly killing the forum so why they complain? as an example i give you the Easter Island, inhabitants of those islands cut all the trees to move the head stones, they cut all the trees of the island so the population declined and collapsed, so imagine talking with an Easter Island resident and he is telling you how he can make the Island better, and you tell him that maybe he should not cut all the trees, and he tell you, yes but we need to move those head stones, and they keep telling you, how we make the island better? and you say again, don't cut the trees, and then the loop never ends, well, that is you with your signature.

Because signatures are not like TV or Radio ads, Bitcointalk signatures are annoying because there are only a few running and they are all the same, like in this tread, how many Chipmixer signatures are?

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I'm intelligent enough to realise that making a full quote immmediately after a post .would make me look stupid
I'm also intelligent enough to put you on ignore

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Quote from: Jet Cash on September 25, 2020, 08:39:20 AM

I get so tired of all the crap about people only being here for the signature earnings. For me the social interaction, educational discussions and threads, and the possibility of making business contacts are more important. I'm a domainer, so I use my signature sometimes to help with some project of mine - hence the stuff about Rag St. It would be a loss to me if I could use my signature space for various things as the mood takes me, I don't care if some helpful member uses his sig to earn a bit as a result of making helpful posts, but I do find it annoying when somebody with a minimal command of English makes meaningless posts, in an attempt to gain rank. They then whinge about everybody having the right to ponce off the forum to earn a few pence.

Maybe signatures should be banned for all those below full member level.

I can't work out if you are stupid and well intentioned or a serious bad guy here.

As if most people here are not here to make money? Where do you get off with these stupid statements.
That is a given. Why are many of DT1 making sure they are on the highest paying sig campaign on the forum?

Not to mention everyone else except those already wealthy pushing to get every bit of rev they can via sigs, escrowing, lending at exorbitant rates, trading , scamming, account peddling.

Be sensible ffs.

The final suggestion would kill the forum of even more quickly.
I suggest you read my posts, understand them and learn something.

Even in a true meritocracy you dont want to cut off the energy of the incapable posters if you want to pump life and volume into the board. Spammers here must be controlled so they spam social media and elsewhere and bring traffic and investment here.

These threads are a typical example of a circle of stupidity and stubbornness avoiding answers or ideas they reject or ignore due to the the origin. That's just silly. Grow up. You're 84 right? I can teach an old dog new tricks.
Be objective.

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I get so tired of all the crap about people only being here for the signature earnings. For me the social interaction, educational discussions and threads, and the possibility of making business contacts are more important. I'm a domainer, so I use my signature sometimes to help with some project of mine - hence the stuff about Rag St. It would be a loss to me if I could use my signature space for various things as the mood takes me, I don't care if some helpful member uses his sig to earn a bit as a result of making helpful posts, but I do find it annoying when somebody with a minimal command of English makes meaningless posts, in an attempt to gain rank. They then whinge about everybody having the right to ponce off the forum to earn a few pence.

Maybe signatures should be banned for all those below full member level.

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Quote from: Lucius on September 25, 2020, 08:18:05 AM

Quote from: bitcoinsvrocks on September 25, 2020, 08:01:55 AM

Something similar is happening right now, old members of this forum are worried because Bitcointalk is having less and less activity and they will not be able to earn money from their signatures, sooner or later this forum it will die if something doesn't change, so they post in this tread and they propose the most ideotic ideas to bring to life the forum like banning users from 3rd world countries, and then someone (me) tell you that the signatures and you (those with signatures) say no
because this will affect you economically. You are killing the forum for your profit. But this is not a coin and nobody will fork it, there are already alternatives out there.

Your conclusions are ridiculous to say at least, because this thread was opened by a member who doesn’t even participate in a paid signature campaign. Unlike you and others like you who show up from time to time, some have been on this forum for years regardless of whether someone paid them for it or not. Instead of trying to constructively answer the questions I asked you in the previous post, you draw meaningless parallels between some coin forks and the fact that some members are afraid that they will lose something because the activity has decreased.

Being in a paid signature campaign has always been a privilege for those who have in any way proved valuable to the forum - so let me conclude that your concern for the future of the forum is not real, you are just envious that you are not in a position to get some BTC in the same way.

1. Provide conclusive proof jetcash does not have an alt that is on a highly paid sig? ( a petty point because it is irrelevant since most defending the sigs here and the route to the sigs is not just jetcash. )
2. You would be pushing to retain the status quo because you're a prime beneficiary of it ? Come on?
3. Lol at proved valuable to the forum? Many chipmixer and highly paid sig spammers on DT1 are proven scammers or scammer protectors. Also many have achieved nothing of note and can't even provide any examples of original thought provoking posts that had any real lasting impact here.

You are just making a lot of bogus statements that will fall apart under scrutiny. There is no meritocracy here so stop pretending there is

I see you didnt respond to my points I made above? Why? Because that leads to the truth.
Nobody here likes the truth when it threatens the status quo they control and benefit from immensely.

Keep it as it is and watch. You will never see and influx and energy of the last bull ever again. It will slowly just become DT1 there pals and some alt projects that have nowhere else to go. Then when the sponsors dry up most of DT1 will be gone.

You've not been here very long yourself. Neither have a lot of DT1. Most are bootlicking noobs. Allowed into maintain the status quo they know they have to support to get some crumbs.

I'm not having a personal go at you since I dont know who you are. However you seem to either be very mislead or trying to mislead others. There is no meritocracy hear. The systems are broken.

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Quote from: bitcoinsvrocks on September 25, 2020, 08:01:55 AM

Something similar is happening right now, old members of this forum are worried because Bitcointalk is having less and less activity and they will not be able to earn money from their signatures, sooner or later this forum it will die if something doesn't change, so they post in this tread and they propose the most ideotic ideas to bring to life the forum like banning users from 3rd world countries, and then someone (me) tell you that the signatures and you (those with signatures) say no
because this will affect you economically. You are killing the forum for your profit. But this is not a coin and nobody will fork it, there are already alternatives out there.

Your conclusions are ridiculous to say at least, because this thread was opened by a member who doesn’t even participate in a paid signature campaign. Unlike you and others like you who show up from time to time, some have been on this forum for years regardless of whether someone paid them for it or not. Instead of trying to constructively answer the questions I asked you in the previous post, you draw meaningless parallels between some coin forks and the fact that some members are afraid that they will lose something because the activity has decreased.

Being in a paid signature campaign has always been a privilege for those who have in any way proved valuable to the forum - so let me conclude that your concern for the future of the forum is not real, you are just envious that you are not in a position to get some BTC in the same way.

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I find this comical,
A few years ago a couple of BTC developers wanted to increase the block size and other features on the BTC code to make BTC better.
I am new here, well not that new, i had an account long time ago and i was inactive during the time all this forks occur, 2017-2019, the rest of the story we all know, the majority of BTC developers didn't agree to those changes, so those developers move on with the forks.

Something similar is happening right now, old members of this forum are worried because Bitcointalk is having less and less activity and they will not be able to earn money from their signatures, sooner or later this forum it will die if something doesn't change, so they post in this tread and they propose the most ideotic ideas to bring to life the forum like banning users from 3rd world countries, and then someone (me) tell you that the signatures and you (those with signatures) say no
because this will affect you economically. You are killing the forum for your profit. But this is not a coin and nobody will fork it, there are already alternatives out there.

So what is the point on creating post like this one if the post dosn't serve the purpose on finding a solution to the problem?
and that line above is the whole point that the signatures are the problem because they affect me directly and why users will continue to leave this forum, because nobody listen to them, seems like just a little group have control over everybody else.

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Quote from: Lucius on September 25, 2020, 04:30:09 AM

Quote from: bitcoinsvrocks on September 24, 2020, 09:39:41 AM

But signatures are a problem, why do i need to go to settings and block the signatures or the user because their signature is spamming and annoying?
What if i am accessing the forum without login in?

There is no doubt that you are completely obsessed with the idea that signatures are the reason why someone wants or does not want to be on this forum - so I can also ask you how you deal with ads on television, radio, internet or billboards? There are others who think that signatures should be completely banned - but I don't see how that would improve the activity of the forum, unless you think that in that case thousands of people from other social platforms would suddenly start using this forum?

Quote from: bitcoinsvrocks on September 24, 2020, 09:39:41 AM

Also i notice that some treads there is a warning saying that the creator of the post is a scammer, i never seen that on Discord or Telegram.
Take a look at ONION tread, there is a big warning, but there is no warning on their Telegram.

First you need to get acquainted with all the possibilities and rules of the forum, and then you will learn that this forum has its own ways to combat scammers, and one of them is to create just such warnings - which of course has nothing to do with other social networks or forums where someone advertises in any way.

Well

1. Most people join here to make money and sigs were or are part of that. I mean you're wearing chipmixer right? Of course any talk of removing banners is a conflict of interest for you and others currently on the top earning sigs.
2. Those warnings at the top of threads are above some of the most valuable threads on this forum where there is zero evidence of any financially motivated wrongdoing at all on that members post history.
So that does not help matters.

Either way my posts on this thread are a comprehensive guide to where to go from here.
The problem is it doesn't suit DT members to make the optimal changes so they just ignore them and pretend not to understand those are the best suggestions and actions to take to increase volume or make the board open to massive increase in volume the next time the gold rush alarm goes off in the media.

DT members generally want to retain the systems that have helped kill bitcointalk but which have allowed them to cream off the best rev streams, but want the traffic back to help advertise and keep the board running, but dont want them to make any money or be competition for their rev streams.

Won't happen. If there is no perceived gold rush for them (noobs on general) then they will never come back.

It's like saying there's lottery running but only the tickets we purchase have a chance of winning anything worth having. Even then the noobs do the slightest thing we dont like or criticise us and their chance to win next to nothing is perm revoked by us.

Sorry people won't play under those conditions.

Almost like advertising a race over 500miles were some start a 499miles completed.

Or hey want to play monopoly once we own all the property and have all the land and control the bank.
I also believe this realization is a prime motivator for a lot of those trying to cheat to get ahead or catch up.

The worst thing theymos did was create systems where a tiny % of members controlled other members ability to earn based on their subjective views and own personal selfish gain. It was completely stupid and has totally backfired. I mean how can it be difficult to understand that will create a conflict of interest when there is a finite supply of rev here. The fact those are generally those that have taken over the best rev streams whilst most have no achievements here of any real note and can't even produce examples of original thought provoking posts that really made any difference here.

Remove the massive control and advantage of a tiny proportion of members over all other members or the board is going to just drift down perm. Even another ATH will not bring activity like the last or maybe nowhere near it as the board is now.

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I allow to quote myself:

Quote from: mole0815 on September 10, 2020, 08:28:59 AM

Since the issue has been around for only a short time I will quote my answer from the other thread here:

Quote from: mole0815 on September 08, 2020, 03:04:17 AM

Meanwhile there are some ideas and therefore some threads about this topic.
Here is an overview with a few additional approaches:

Bitcointalk Mobile Friendly App for Android
Mobile Friendly Bitcointalk
This is how bitcointalk.org looks like on a mobile phone

With epochtalk everything will be better anyway

Maybe this will help you a little bit

What comes to my mind about this thread is not the missing mobile solution. First of all there are alternatives (see above) and secondly it's rather due to the general situation in the crypto environment. Many old users have been scared away (or are already rich Grin

). Many new users are not coming because there is no hype in sight. This in combination with the worldwide tense situation (thanks to Corona) is in my opinion the reason for the lull. The times are getting better again... and Epochtalk will also help to generate more traffic

//edit/addition: If the traffic is reduced by prevented account farming and the quality of the posts increases, this is a double advantage.

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Quote from: xolxol on September 24, 2020, 09:23:38 PM

less bounties for the 3rd world country lads ~~+ abusive dt members~~

This is the same reason why I think forum decrease in activity and also when merit system introduced. Let's admit that 30% to 40% of the activity of the forum during 2015 to 2017 are from the bounty hunter and most of them are probably multiple account. Accounts farming business too are already stop operation due to the merit system. I believe that the current volume of forum activity is the real and organic number.

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Quote from: bitcoinsvrocks on September 24, 2020, 09:39:41 AM

But signatures are a problem, why do i need to go to settings and block the signatures or the user because their signature is spamming and annoying?

If you are really annoyed with signature campaign, you will disable them. Same thing if you are annoyed with some users, you can always put them on ignore and problem solved. But it's easier to QQ and complain about it rather than spend 1 minute and solve it.

Quote from: bitcoinsvrocks on September 24, 2020, 09:39:41 AM

What if i am accessing the forum without login in?

If that really bothers you, log in. Or is that too hard too?

Quote from: bitcoinsvrocks on September 24, 2020, 09:39:41 AM

Why is not the opposite?
If i want to see the annoying spamming signature i turn the signature ON.

So just because you are annoyed with signatures, forum should cater to your needs and disable everything on default so you don't have to spend 1 minute of your precious time disabling them. Sure.

Quote from: bitcoinsvrocks on September 24, 2020, 09:39:41 AM

And this is another reason why most of the activity is moving to chats, like telegram or discord.
There is no signature on those chats.

No one is moving to those because of signatures. They are simply different things, that serve the different purpose. Forums are generally less popular than they were 10-15 years ago, that's true. People simply have more options to communicate, and younger generations prefer something faster.

Quote from: bitcoinsvrocks on September 24, 2020, 09:39:41 AM

Also i notice that some treads there is a warning saying that the creator of the post is a scammer, i never seen that on Discord or Telegram.
Take a look at ONION tread, there is a big warning, but there is no warning on their Telegram.

I don't know about Discord as I am not active there enough, but Telegram does have "Scam" mark. Accounts get tagged with that when they get reported enough times, I don't know how you missed that if you are active enough on Telegram.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on September 24, 2020, 10:23:26 AM

Number one thing we need to improve for bitcointalk forum is full mobile support.
There is no excuse anymore for not having it done so far (sorry theymos) and I am just being honest.
Young folks are using mostly smartphones now and less computers.
I am was also testing new epoch software and coinbistro, and even if I think it would be big shock and initial resistence, in the long run it would only be good for everyone.

I started my career in this forum using my mobile phone before. Until there are opportunities opened to me in this forum and I bought laptop using my bounty rewards before. All I can say is that, it is really hard to use mobile phones but it is more convenient to many people specially new generation like me who wanted to start in cryptocurrency. It is better if there is full mobile support but I think using browser is enough to open bitcointalk forum. If there is a perseverance, whatever you have, you can utilize it.

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Quote from: bitcoinsvrocks on September 24, 2020, 09:39:41 AM

But signatures are a problem, why do i need to go to settings and block the signatures or the user because their signature is spamming and annoying?
What if i am accessing the forum without login in?

There is no doubt that you are completely obsessed with the idea that signatures are the reason why someone wants or does not want to be on this forum - so I can also ask you how you deal with ads on television, radio, internet or billboards? There are others who think that signatures should be completely banned - but I don't see how that would improve the activity of the forum, unless you think that in that case thousands of people from other social platforms would suddenly start using this forum?

Quote from: bitcoinsvrocks on September 24, 2020, 09:39:41 AM

Also i notice that some treads there is a warning saying that the creator of the post is a scammer, i never seen that on Discord or Telegram.
Take a look at ONION tread, there is a big warning, but there is no warning on their Telegram.

First you need to get acquainted with all the possibilities and rules of the forum, and then you will learn that this forum has its own ways to combat scammers, and one of them is to create just such warnings - which of course has nothing to do with other social networks or forums where someone advertises in any way.

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Probably one of the reason the forum activity is reducing is that those members that make it are no longer here.

Just think about this, if you invested a small amount of money in crypto between 2010 and 2014 and you made lot of money and you are still holding it because you didn't bet in a scam online casino then why you want to be posting emotionless comments and behaving like human spambot while spamming the forum with scam sites in your signature? you will probably be in a tropical paradise living in a villa with pool and surrounded by beautiful women.

Most of the members left in this forum are the ones who didn't make it and are making a living with signatures and their comments lack of passion and are spamming scam.

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less bounties for the 3rd world country lads + abusive dt members

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This forum is build for mobile devices, i don't know what are you talking about here that this forum is not build for mobiles, you will need a phone that supports WAP browsing like the Ericsson T20s
https://www.gsmarena.com/ericsson_t20s-211.php

Or search for an app that emulates WAP, and then you can access bitcointalk from your mobile device
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276911.60;wap2

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Quote from: friends1980 on September 24, 2020, 11:43:13 AM

Quote from: dkbit98 on September 24, 2020, 11:25:29 AM

Quote from: friends1980 on September 24, 2020, 11:23:21 AM

I hate chatting and messengers already because of the small screen, so why would people want to type entire forum threads on their phone?

You hate = everyone hates right?

Whatever makes you happy, pal.

You could use your phone to look up what "caca nerveux" means and to find a remedy against it.

Depends on your phone.

I find it just as quick now almost to hammer it out via phone.

You need a good phone with a large screen. Of course so much easier to use the phone anywhere gym, beach, restaurant while slow coaches are still munching. than a laptop .

I don't find it much of an issue compared to the laptop but if you have a small phone then it would be pretty rubbish.
I suggest something like a galaxynote10 or 20plus. Or one of those that fold. I haven't tried one yet.

I think this is my fav forum software. I'm a member of quite a few but this basic layout and function is by far the best for me.

We never had a mobile version during the last 2 big bulls so a more mobile friendly version would be good but it wont change any of the points I made in my last post on this thread.

Prepare for the next bull. Maximize and utilize every type of willing participant or you will never reach the volume of the last bull.
If people dont believe the next gold rush is open to them. They wont come here.

Best thing for this forum is to make it appealing to everyone who is interested in making money. We all known 99% of users come initially for that. Later a proportion do become genuine enthusiasts.

Mobile version, okay a good thing to have but won't really be enough to turn things around on it's own.
Still, undeniably, it would be a nice addition and a positive thing.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on September 24, 2020, 11:25:29 AM

Quote from: friends1980 on September 24, 2020, 11:23:21 AM

I hate chatting and messengers already because of the small screen, so why would people want to type entire forum threads on their phone?

You hate = everyone hates right?

Whatever makes you happy, pal.

You could use your phone to look up what "caca nerveux" means and to find a remedy against it.

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I bought a bluetooth keyboard to use with my phone. It's geat for typing replies, but you still have the problem of the small screen.

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Quote from: friends1980 on September 24, 2020, 11:23:21 AM

I hate chatting and messengers already because of the small screen, so why would people want to type entire forum threads on their phone?

You hate = everyone hates right?

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Quote from: dkbit98 on September 24, 2020, 10:23:26 AM

Number one thing we need to improve for bitcointalk forum is full mobile support.
There is no excuse anymore for not having it done so far (sorry theymos) and I am just being honest.
Young folks are using mostly smartphones now and less computers.
I am was also testing new epoch software and coinbistro, and even if I think it would be big shock and initial resistence, in the long run it would only be good for everyone.

We've had this discussion recently and several times before that. I rarely visit the forum on my phone and when I do, it's only to read up a bit. I'm not quite sure if there's anyone who likes to type on a mobile phone keyboard. I hate chatting and messengers already because of the small screen, so why would people want to type entire forum threads on their phone? That would be a golden recipe for one-line posters.

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Number one thing we need to improve for bitcointalk forum is full mobile support.
There is no excuse anymore for not having it done so far (sorry theymos) and I am just being honest.
Young folks are using mostly smartphones now and less computers.
I am was also testing new epoch software and coinbistro, and even if I think it would be big shock and initial resistence, in the long run it would only be good for everyone.

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The thing is with most modern designs I feel like there's too much white space, and not enough content. I know people generally like the minimalist view of modern designs, but I'm quite a big fan of getting the most data possible while also retaining some sort of readability. I think SMF does this perfectly, and I'll be honest I'm not a great fan of the new forum software layout how it currently is. There was a forum software out there that I liked the look of, but can't remember the name of it. It has some modern features which made the usability pretty nice too.

Although, I don't think the software is whats causing the traffic to dip, or at least the illusion that traffic is dipping. Since, I haven't been able to verify whether there actually has been a significant downtrend of users recently.

Update: The software I was thinking of is Discourse. Its modern, and has a lot of blank space, but I quite like it for some odd reason. Although, even so I don't think I prefer it over SMF. There's just something quite appealing about SMF.

Quote from: Jet Cash on September 24, 2020, 05:52:31 AM

It isn't the dignatures that \re the problem, but the lack of supervision or monitoring by some of the campaign managers.

One solution would be to restrict links in sigs to Bitcoin Talk threads or posts, or to domains that are owned by the poster.

I personally tend to avoid mobiles due to the security risks associated with them. Plus, I'm not a fan of most operating systems since they are often either partially open sourced with certain parts "closed" source or they're completely non open source. Plus, the screens are generally way to small to do any sort of long formatting of posts. Too many mistakes, when a keyboard offers ten fold more accuracy.

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Quote from: Lucius on September 24, 2020, 08:09:05 AM

Quote from: bitcoinsvrocks on September 24, 2020, 05:35:42 AM

I now see why this forum has lack of activity, for example, the other day a user who had a paid signature quote one of my posts, and he made a joke and wrote "LOL"

Why did you get so caught up in users signatures when I nicely explained to you how any user can block them in two steps? Each campaign manager decides which post to pay for and which not - just because someone has something in their signature doesn't mean they shouldn't write "LOL" "YES" "NO" - it's actually quite normal in everyday communication.

Reduced activity, in my opinion, is mainly in that new users can no longer easy create 100 accounts that will become a Full/Senior member in a few months - I am not sorry because we lost that activity.

But signatures are a problem, why do i need to go to settings and block the signatures or the user because their signature is spamming and annoying?
What if i am accessing the forum without login in?

Why is not the opposite?
If i want to see the annoying spamming signature i turn the signature ON.

And this is another reason why most of the activity is moving to chats, like telegram or discord.
There is no signature on those chats.

Also i notice that some treads there is a warning saying that the creator of the post is a scammer, i never seen that on Discord or Telegram.
Take a look at ONION tread, there is a big warning, but there is no warning on their Telegram.

Is the same when you visit your favorite porn site for many years and then they start to add popups and annoying advertising and the videos of your favorite model only last 30 sec because if you want to watch more you need to pay, what users do? they go somewhere else.

But this forum have very old users who been in crypto forever and is good to know about their experiences so we the new generation will not make their mistakes, or that is what i am trying to do.

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Quote from: LoyceV on September 19, 2020, 12:48:18 PM

Quote from: Jet Cash on September 19, 2020, 08:09:55 AM

I would have thought that the lock downs would have increased activity, but maybe people are playing games and watching Netflix instead.

Maybe they used to use the forum in quiet hours in the office, and now they're stuck working from home with the kids around. This must be valid for at least some people, I have a hard time being productive when they're around.

For me that's the main reason. Normally at work I had some more time in between to check the forum. Now while working at home I am more concentrated so don't be that active during working hours like on the office.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on September 24, 2020, 05:15:31 AM

This forum is mobile intolerant unfortunately. If it supported mobile viewers, it would not allow those stupid great useless images, and the pratts who insist on making nested quotes to make a one line reply.

Unfortunately for some this is a big problem, for me personally it is not that the forum is not very mobile friendly - but if the memory serves me well there are some solutions, albeit unofficial ones that can help with that. I've also tried to fight those who post too large images and those who quote the same to make their posts look better - but the last 10 posts I report have remained unhandled, and for what I've deleted in a self-moderated thread I've been accused of I delete posts because I disagree with someone's opinion.

Quote from: bitcoinsvrocks on September 24, 2020, 05:35:42 AM

I now see why this forum has lack of activity, for example, the other day a user who had a paid signature quote one of my posts, and he made a joke and wrote "LOL"

Why did you get so caught up in users signatures when I nicely explained to you how any user can block them in two steps? Each campaign manager decides which post to pay for and which not - just because someone has something in their signature doesn't mean they shouldn't write "LOL" "YES" "NO" - it's actually quite normal in everyday communication.

Reduced activity, in my opinion, is mainly in that new users can no longer easy create 100 accounts that will become a Full/Senior member in a few months - I am not sorry because we lost that activity.

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It isn't the signatures that \re the problem, but the lack of supervision or monitoring by some of the campaign managers.

One solution would be to restrict links in sigs to Bitcoin Talk threads or posts, or to domains that are owned by the poster.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on September 24, 2020, 05:15:31 AM

This forum is mobile intolerant unfortunately. If it supported mobile viewers, it would not allow those stupid great useless images, and the pratts who insist on making nested quotes to make a one line reply.

4Chan was launched in 2003 and their layout never has changed, the sub board /biz is popular with crypto users.

I now see why this forum has lack of activity, for example, the other day a user who had a paid signature quote one of my posts, and he made a joke and wrote "LOL"
I did not understand the joke, i actually never encounter a joke like that, if that was the joke, the reason for the joke was that he went trough all my post history and found some questionable truth about me, just imagine the time spent doing that, i notice that the user comment was emotionless behaving like an human spambot, i also notice that the user had a signature promoting some site, and then i got it and understood that some of those users who had signatures are getting paid to spam Bitcointalk with their comments lacking human emotions.

Instead 4Chan there is no signatures, and nobody is directly promoting scams, everybody is free to do whatever and is more alive than never, never upgrade since 2003, and i never been stalked when i post there.

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This forum is mobile intolerant unfortunately. If it supported mobile viewers, it would not allow those stupid great useless images, and the pratts who insist on making nested quotes to make a one line reply.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on September 23, 2020, 04:09:22 AM

Maybe I'm too old, but I like this sryle of forum. I don't like the so-called modern styles, which seem to be jumbles to me.

I feel the same way... I don't actually see any need for the forum to be upgraded as it contains everything that is necessary for the promotion of discussion in the format that it currently is.

One thing that would definitely help and is probably years overdue is a mobile version. Many, many people read the forum from a mobile device, which can be irritating as there's usually a lot of scrolling involved.

Over 50% of all web traffic comes from mobile devices, and though the trend seems to have leveled off in recent years, the forum would definitely see more visitors / users with a more user-friendly mobile layout. Don't have a clue as to how practical making SMF mobile friendly is but my guess is its not easy or it would have been done already.

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Not many signature campaigns as they used to be. That's the #1 reason.

#2 reason, even though most of you don't want to believe it, bitcoin is not as popular as it once was.

#3 reason is a general one. Forums died long time ago.

#4 reason, it became impossible for most people to rank up unless they really put their time and effort in their posts and that was actually intended.
(good news for the good posters, bad news for the account farmers.) Action > Reaction.

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The forum may need a little bit of change until such it will achieve something great to which it will be presentable to most users will going to like. Yet, it does not mean changing the forum into unnoticeable where we can't distinguish the old and new forum. The improve should be done gradually so that user can get into adaptation and of course can comment something that it can add to the bitcointalk forum beautification. However, most forum I see like this is usually are text and there could be audio and video but seldom it will be use and that only depend on the user. But this is one added feature to a forum I have been into. This is just my thought and nothing should be taken seriously.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on September 23, 2020, 04:45:53 AM

Well you really should look to getting some Bitcoin for savings. I don't use Chipmixer as I am a Bitcoin maximalist and HODLer, but I no longer notice their banners, so it doesn't really affect me. One good thing about Chipmixer is that they seem to select some of the better members into their programme, and id they can earn a bit of income from helping members of this forum, then I see that as a positive benefit.

No. Wrong.

They selected some of the least successful morons spreading misinformation and crushing the free speech on this forum.
Why else would people that have been here all of these years need to spam chipmixer?
They are broke down bums that are crap at trading and have very poor judgement in general. Some of the biggest failures here in terms of why most people honestly join this forum. To make money. That is why the forum explodes every BTC high. The gold rush.

It is very simple why the traffic has left bitcointalk.

1. This lull always takes places after a bull has run out of steam and we wait the next period of time for an all time high where the mass media slathers bitcoin over the news 24/7 and people think bingo... here is now the next gold rush opportunity. People even some long term holders really start to capitulate on long bears or stagnation well below last ATH.

2. Other mediums have picked up heavily on crypto. Not all projects are released here. A lot of people get there crypto news and opportunities else where than a pow announced release on here now.

3. Merit, trust and campaign managers have ensured that there is no more easy access to quick coin or token grabs in any worthwhile amount. Along with the crash in interest due to the long stagnant for bear cycle we've been through. Alts have killed themselves off generally due to dilution death. There are few that " appear" to have some life aka liquidity, volume and cap. These are mostly fake. The distribution is narrow and everything about them is artificial. A handful of exceptions.

4. Even when we hit the next btc ATH I am not expecting this forum to hit levels it did in the last gold rush here .
The word is out now that not just anyone knowing nothing whatsoever can turn up and spam and get their paws on some coins to dump into USD.

5. Although it was annoying for some people on the forum who primarily enjoyed the alt forum , having all of those people filling the forum with crap or gambling their 50 or 100 bucks to try to make 100x more over night breathed a lot of activity and life and action into the forum. Most were really compulsive gamblers and even their 50 bucks spamming bounties were gambled on other alts etc.
The answer was not really to kick them all off. The answer was to separate them from those that wanted serious discussion. You should have kept all the traffic gambling and tons of small steaks and them all spamming the shit out of twitter facebook and all other social media linking back to projects on here for their " bounties" . Smarter folks were simply suggesting junior (noob jails) for several boards.

Most of the fools wasting their money on those far out new projects or spamming the shit out of their social media accounts that all linked back to projects here for bounties were noobs who would never make it off the junior boards but that didnt matter since the only fools that bought into those projects were others of the same type who would be locked there also.

All of that initial WOM traffic , free SM advertising, free SE traffic and tons of small steak gambling shares from either them of projects seed money they got a tiny bit of from spamming and advertising for them GONE.
If you take away the small and unskilled peoples ability to grab a tiny slice or their belief they can gain a nice big slice you take away all the effort and drive they bring that is both negative and positive to the forum with a poor design. But could all converted to mostly positive if the design was changed. Also you could change a negative environment of reporting snitching and punishing. To mostly recognition and rewarding. The crapsters would just remain in noob jail and have no negative effect on the senior boards.

This is irrelevant until the next bull and BTC ATH.
A couple of people trying to jump start the forum at this point is pointless. People come for MONEY
Better start redesigning the forum to capture all the wind it can next time at ATH to drive it forward.

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Quote from: bitcoinsvrocks on September 23, 2020, 04:39:10 AM

i am not going to use Chipmixer, and also i am starting to hate Chipmixer because all this spam, in Discord and Telegram the spam is diferent, you get a few users per week sending you spam but you can just block them and the spam ends, and also is not the same spam all the time, like Chipmixer Roll Eyes

At least Chipmixer can use random advertising to make their spam less painful to watch, because it really hurt my eyes.

I'm not sure if newbie members have any restrictions when it comes to certain settings in their profiles - but if signatures bother you so much, here's a simple solution -> Click Profile -> Look and Layout Preferences -> Select Don't show users' signatures + you can also block users avatars in same way.

Now that we have a very simple solution to block signatures and avatars, can we conclude that some things stem from the fact that some users of this and other forums do not really know how to use the forum, or adjust it to their needs?

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Well you really should look to getting some Bitcoin for savings. I don't use Chipmixer as I am a Bitcoin maximalist and HODLer, but I no longer notice their banners, so it doesn't really affect me. One good thing about Chipmixer is that they seem to select some of the better members into their programme, and id they can earn a bit of income from helping members of this forum, then I see that as a positive benefit.

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I think loyal readers of Bitcointalk like it here because the conversation goes slow,
New projects are using Discord or Telegram only and is very hard to get all the news because one week in crypto is like one year in real life and the conversation trough those channels goes really fast.
The spam i think is reduced in Telegram and Discord, here in Bitcointalk is much more, for example here in this tread i seen advertising about Chipmixer like 7 times, and i don't have BTC so is totally irrelevant to me, i am not going to use Chipmixer, and also i am starting to hate Chipmixer because all this spam, in Discord and Telegram the spam is diferent, you get a few users per week sending you spam but you can just block them and the spam ends, and also is not the same spam all the time, like Chipmixer Roll Eyes

At least Chipmixer can use random advertising to make their spam less painful to watch, because it really hurt my eyes.

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Maybe I'm too old, but I like this sryle of forum. I don't like the so-called modern styles, which seem to be jumbles to me.

I'm doing my bit to try to attract new sellers to this forum. I have a thread about it on Rag St = https://ragst.com/index.php?topic=3.0
Maybe other members with suitable web sites could promote the forum and the use of Bitcoin.

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Oh please don't start one more pandemic talk here please... instead let's think of the ways how we can improve forum with some changes and attract new people.
It is true that people in general are shifting from old to new style forums, and that should be considered for change with new design, maybe something similar to Discourse would be more popular this days.

I still don't think there is any other crypto forum more popular and more active than Bitcointalk, except maybe 4chan, but I consider that website unusable trash, even if people are using it.

We are still ranked high at 11th place:
https://www.forumrankings.net/

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This is most likely because Bitcointalk users are not interested in Bitcoin anymore,
I remember this forum long time ago, i used to have an account here, i forgot what my username was, but i do remember there was little activity in the altcoin section until the day that Dogecoin thread started then it was all altcoin and every hour there was a new one, then it was the HYIP section and shady casinos, now it seems like the most active threads are about internal politics inside Bitcointalk what most users don't find interesting to read, all those coins that launched here are not popular anymore, new coins and projects are using Twitter, Telegram and Discord to communicate with their community so Bitcointalk has no use for those people.
I was looking at the Alexa of Bitcointalk.org
https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitcointalk.org#trafficstats
and i can see that the global ranking is high
and other sites like Coingeko or Cryptocompare are ranked higher
and looking at the keywords searches for visitors accessing Bitcointalk is not related to Crypto or Bitcoin.

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Think it entirely depends on the sort of jobs that people have here on the forum. For example, our industry was considered essential right through the pandemic, and therefore we've had an insane workload throughout it. We did initially have a few people furloughed, but the essential workers within the company were still running around all over the place. I'm only now starting to see a reduction in our workload, and it seems its just in time for a 2nd full scale lockdown, so we'll see how the next few weeks pan out, but in our industry its largely being run by a few individuals that have to take a lot of work on, while others are completely without work on furlough. Thus, my time personally has been reduced recently, as well as being exhausted half the time.

I can't speak for everyone, but that's a little insight into one of the industries which the country relies on. Of course, not everyone works in essential jobs, and I don't think the vast majority do as I would probably take a guess that a lot of users here work within the IT industry, and even if that does involve what is deemed as essential work it can usually be carried out from home.

Also, it seems that a lot of people took advantage of furlough, and started having BBQs, parties, and all sorts of random stuff that they usually wouldn't do. It was treated as a holiday by many. I won't get into the numbers being manipulated as I think its pretty evident the government, and news sources have been picking, and choosing their headlines, and statistics to push a certain narrative. Right through this pandemic there's been several contradictions.

It's probably worth noting that generally forum software in this sort of forum has been declining for years, and social media is starting to take over. Reddit, for example despite how much I hate the upvote system that seems to be the rising way of discussing all sorts of things. Personally, I like this sort of software, and won't be making the transition to other social medias in a hurry.

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Quote from: Lucius on September 21, 2020, 05:54:42 AM

it is my opinion that this is not something that can be called "minor epidemic", unless you think the data on the number of infected/dead people are fake.

Of course I believe that the evidence is manipulated, and that is why I no longer wish to discuss it. It has become almost a religion to believe in the evil virus monster, that hasn't yet managed to kill any healthy people. It is now being called a casedenic, as the number of cases has to be used to frighten people, as the death rate is non-existent.

With regard to domain names and Bitcoin - I am sure there are several members who are active in such sales, but my point is that they don't discuss them in this forum, and I think it would be beneficial to the forum if they did so.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on September 21, 2020, 05:25:35 AM

I didn't really want to get into discussing the current panicdemic. Infection rates are nit relevant with a minor epidemic like this, as eventually everybody will be infected.

I just answered your question, if you really thought about the situation in the world regarding the pandemic in connection with the reduction of activity in this and other forums based on your first post. Without going into any further discussion, it is my opinion that this is not something that can be called "minor epidemic", unless you think the data on the number of infected/dead people are fake. If the total population were infected, and if only 1% died, that would mean 78 million deaths - and for comparison, World War II. had between 50-80 million dead/killed.

Quote from: Jet Cash on September 21, 2020, 05:25:35 AM

I have often hoped to encourage discussions about domain names here, but there doesn't seem to be much interest. Domain names are to property as Bitcoin is to banking, so they should sit well together. It is one of my ambitions to encourage the use of Bitcoin as a payment method for domain names, but I don't seem to get any support for it in this forum.

I have nothing against paying for domains with BTC, I have been doing this for years, and I always pay for hosting and domains in crypto, and I promote a company that makes it possible.

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I didn't really want to get into discussing the current panicdemic. Infection rates are nit relevant with a minor epidemic like this, as eventually everybody will be infected. What is more important is the speed of the spreading of immunity, and the ICU admissions and deaths resulting from co-morbidities. So many people seem to accept the Pharma and banking narratives without question, that it is no longer possible to maintain sensible discussions, and that is why I wanted to exclude related topics.

I have often hoped to encourage discussions about domain names here, but there doesn't seem to be much interest. Domain names are to property as Bitcoin is to banking, so they should sit well together. It is one of my ambitions to encourage the use of Bitcoin as a payment method for domain names, but I don't seem to get any support for it in this forum.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on September 20, 2020, 09:16:25 AM

It would be interesting to discover how things are improving ( if they are ) in other countries around the world.

I guess you mean the state of the pandemic in the world, and I will say that it is enough to look at the daily number of infected people so that some things become much clearer - what is currently happening seems to me personally to be the beginning of the second wave, at least in the EU. The second image shows the total number of new infections in the world on a daily basis.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 20, 2020, 07:23:57 PM

I have a question, though: what are the current bounties promoting? Up until 2019 (I think) it was primarily ICOs, but are there any of those still being created? Is it mostly DeFi bounties now?

What they always promote, some new tokens that are always better than the previous ones, have some revolutionary solutions that will change the world or something like that. I know you have altcoin boards to ignore so you can not check, but I can confirm that many of them are focused on DeFi projects, or some stablecoins backed with gold.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=238.0

Quote from: Lucius on September 20, 2020, 07:43:16 AM

I'm not sure how much the halving affected forum activity. If I remember correctly, the halving and the start of the COVID-19 pandemic were around the same time, and not only didn't bitcoin rise significantly post-halving but it dropped off a cliff for a short period of time when the lockdowns started. Now bitcoin is back above $10k, but the forum just seems kinda bleh even with that.

The pandemic was declared March 11/12, while halving occurred 2 months later (11 May, 2020). and that day the lowest price was $ 8,374.32, which is actually the lowest price from halving to date according to data from CMC. What many expected (and if I'm not mistaken you have a Bitcoin discussion to ignore) is that the price will immediately magically jump to some values close to ATH - but there was only a recovery to pre-pandemic values, which by the way are equal to those values of exactly a year ago. From the point of view of those who look at everything through the prism of price and profit, Bitcoin is interesting only when a bull run takes place - which means that most are still waiting for a replay of what happened at the end of 2017.

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I've never joined twitter, just the very name put me off. In English, a "twit" is a stupid unintelligent person, and "twitter" is a susurration of mindless chatter. The recent woke issue of bags of hard boiled eggs on sale in Morrison's supermarket bears this out. It seems that Morrison's put out bags of hard boiled eggs that weren't being used in their salad preparations. There were about a dozen in a bag, and they had labelled them a 5 eggs. Well that caused some stupid girl to kick off because of inaccurate labelling, She also though it was disgusting that bags of a dozen eggs were being sold. I'm with Morrison's in this matter, their comment ws that shoppers should see them as a chance of a bargain, and it is better to sell them at a low price, than to throw away perfectly good food. This seems to be the level of conversation on twitter - please keep them away from Bitcoin Talk.

I think I will run the 4x25 merit rewards project, and I'll work out some rules for eligibility. It won't be based on rank, ethnicity, religion or sexual preference. Even those with their dangly bits cut off will be eligible, I'd like to include politics, but not things like Trump's hairstyle - the impact of sanctions on Huawei id much more interesting to me. Also I think that virus panicdemics (sic) have been done to death now, and bounty and ICOs are so last decade.

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Quote from: notblox1 on September 20, 2020, 07:08:16 PM

Maybe having some social media promotion would not be a bad idea.
Does Bitcointalk have active twitter account?
Maybe someone can post best posts of the day and week in twitter.

Yeah! Not a bad idea. Actually it was a nice way to promote our forum in a broader sea of audience. However, I am just not sure if it will boom like on the pages/accounts of celebrities or great content creators. Let me give you an example.

I still remember that one of the members of our local board decided to create an FB group dedicated for the btctalk members in our country way back 2018 AFAIR. Unfortunately, it became inactive eventually. Sometimes I saw posts from it but more of referral links that's why I get annoyed and ignore it already Grin

. (Sorry if I can no longer find the group, I guess it was renamed already). That's why I thought it will be pointless to create one.

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Quote from: Lucius on September 20, 2020, 07:43:16 AM

I think there’s something about bounty no longer being that cost-effective, and at the same time reaching Senior rank is a mission impossible for most.

Yeah, I think bounties were always a risky proposition for the participants, as sometimes they wouldn't get paid at the end, or the token would be worthless, or they'd get hit with a KYC requirement right at the end. I have a question, though: what are the current bounties promoting? Up until 2019 (I think) it was primarily ICOs, but are there any of those still being created? Is it mostly DeFi bounties now?

Quote from: Lucius on September 20, 2020, 07:43:16 AM

I would just add one more thing, many were left disappointed after the halving which was largely misinterpreted as something followed by a big bull run. As people mostly look at BTC as a source of profit, it is logical that they are not here if the current price is only slightly higher than it was a year ago.

I'm not sure how much the halving affected forum activity. If I remember correctly, the halving and the start of the COVID-19 pandemic were around the same time, and not only didn't bitcoin rise significantly post-halving but it dropped off a cliff for a short period of time when the lockdowns started. Now bitcoin is back above $10k, but the forum just seems kinda bleh even with that.

Quote from: Jet Cash on September 20, 2020, 09:16:25 AM

I'm not sure whether to start this merit awarding project, or to revive the Fit to Talk English project.

I wouldn't bother with the Fit to Talk English thing, since it doesn't seem like ranking up is a priority for many new members and therefore they don't need to make good posts in English in order to earn merit--and so they probably wouldn't have much enthusiasm for an English-as-a-bitcointalk-language program.

I don't know what you're planning with the merit-awarding thing, but you've had a lot of good ideas in the past so I'd say go for it.

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What is merit awarding project Jet Cash?
I am not sure any other forum attracts people attention at the moment, and I would rather be smart and make some important changes in bitcointalk.

Maybe having some social media promotion would not be a bad idea.
Does Bitcointalk have active twitter account?
Maybe someone can post best posts of the day and week in twitter.

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I'm not sure whether to start this merit awarding project, or to revive the Fit to Talk English project. I've just updated the software, and cleared out all the spam, so maybe that could be the first project. It would be interesting to discover how things are improving ( if they are ) in other countries around the world.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on September 19, 2020, 08:09:55 AM

I would have thought that the lock downs would have increased activity, but maybe people are playing games and watching Netflix instead.

I think that during the lockdown a lot of people spent too much time online and because of that they changed their behavior a bit, and probably now enjoying some offline activities because the weather is ideal for it. Winter is approaching (they say that this year will come in mid-autumn in Europe), so people will be inside again, and it is likely that some measures will be intensified in order to combat the spread of the virus.

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 19, 2020, 09:19:17 AM

I don't know what happened. Are there fewer bounties/signature campaigns these days? Maybe members find ranking up too hard and thus can't earn much in sig campaigns?

I can't say how many bounty campaigns there are compared to a few years ago - although we recently saw that Altocins boards are the most active part of the forum, but I can say that there are quite enough signature campaigns that pay directly in BTC, although most of them only ask for Senior members and above. I think there’s something about bounty no longer being that cost-effective, and at the same time reaching Senior rank is a mission impossible for most.

I would just add one more thing, many were left disappointed after the halving which was largely misinterpreted as something followed by a big bull run. As people mostly look at BTC as a source of profit, it is logical that they are not here if the current price is only slightly higher than it was a year ago.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on September 20, 2020, 07:00:56 AM

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Does anyone want to expand or comment on my initial thoughts?

Spam activity might have been reduced (which is, I think, what we were actually all hoping for), but I do not have the feeling quality has gone lower.

On the contrary, this week I've found 2 new books to read (in the WO thread, of all places). I started working on "Learn to Program from scratch" which was recommended in one of the threads (can't find back the thread). And I've been reading up further about crypto in judicial systems all over the world (which as you might know, is kind of my cup of tea), after having been tickled by LastofV8s a week or two ago.

In terms of intellectual stimulation, you could say this week has been a treat to me...

I feel like a lot of these interesting posts usually disappeared in heaps of spam.

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Quote from: Upgrade00 on September 19, 2020, 10:23:45 AM

I have noticed a drop in activity over the past months, although I think it could be a case of me finding fewer threads that interest me in the boards I frequently visit.
I looked at https://sitechecker.pro/traffic-checker/ to monitor the traffic on the forum over the last 6 months; can't confirm how accurate the chart is, but it shows an increase in traffic from last month after a drop between May and June;

If the chart is accurate, I would assume there was a spike in activity before May in anticipation for the halving and most people lost interest after that, as there was minimal change in price, leading to the drop in activity (this also coincides with the onset of lockdown in many countries as suggested by @mk4 above).
The current spike in traffic (last updated in August) could be a result of increased interest from institutional investors, such as the microstrategy purchase. The public may be getting bullish again about Bitcoin and renewing interest in it.

So I was thinking where you guys get the statistics and finally found the answer. Gotta add the website to my favorites.

And here are my thoughts for the decrease of activities;
1. Pandemic. Making everyone to work at home making them busy all day. Instead working in the office where you can just slack-off and post on Bitcointalk's forum.
2. Most people may have experienced scams in crypto and making them realize that they just wasted time here for earning not enough.
3. Lost of internet connection due to lockdowns and quarantines making most get unpaid. No salary, no bill, no internet.
4. And lastly, some did not survive for many reasons.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 19, 2020, 09:04:58 PM

Since I put Polo7 and Bitcoin SV on ignore, this part of page one of what my "unread posts" looks like:

My recent visits to reputation section look similar like yours, and top half of the screen and ignored topics from members like stupidcontract100 and others.
This should be considered as trolling and some moderator actions is needed, maybe cleaning and deleting topics and giving temp bans.

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As an English eccentric with fairly positive and extreme views ( in some cases ), I don't think I should be the person to short list those to receive awards, but I reserve the tight to overlook some.

I think I will be selfish here, and restrict it to technical discussions and help about hardware, software, Bitcoin, alts, defi and internet connectivity. Also included will be macro-economic reports and discussions related to banking and asset preservation, together with on-line income creation using Bitcoin.

Excluded will be health topics, especially those about viruses and vaccines. American and EU politics and governments actions - they all seem to be trivial and predictable. Forum statistics and other forum related topics seem to get enough merits, so we had better leave them out.

It is my belief that the inclusion of meaningless or trivial images degrades a thread, and discourages more serious readers, especially when they are included in quotes, so such posts may not be read by me. The same goes for unnecessary quotes, especially nested ones.All members from brand new to legendary are eligible.

Does anyone want to expand or comment on my initial thoughts?

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Quote from: Jet Cash on September 20, 2020, 03:00:24 AM

Voting means that someone has to preselect the candidates.
I thought it might be best just to run a thread where people could suggest suitable members for a reward ( not themselves ). Then I would reward the most popular, provided they are in my ignore list

, and there were no obvious objections. Other members could use the list to give rewards as well of course.

Good idea though but when people hear merit as rewards then they will come up with useless topics with a highly constructive first post along with a source at the end that is what I don't really like.

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Voting means that someone has to preselect the candidates.
I thought it might be best just to run a thread where people could suggest suitable members for a reward ( not themselves ). Then I would reward the most popular, provided they are in my ignore list

, and there were no obvious objections. Other members could use the list to give rewards as well of course.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on September 20, 2020, 02:31:09 AM

I'll offer 25 merits each to the 4 posters who are voted to have made the best contributions over the next week.

Who gets to vote? Everyone?

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Quote from: virasog on September 19, 2020, 05:47:22 PM

Does this chart shows that the most active users on this forum are from Russia ? They have made more than 10,000 posts in a month of August.

That chart just shows that by far most active local board is Russian, and it's like that pretty much every month.

Quote from: virasog on September 19, 2020, 05:47:22 PM

Can I have the full data of all the countries and how accurate is this data ?

Data I am using for these charts comes from @DdmrDdmr Merit Dashboard, an excellent tool where you can find various info for each local board, things like most merited posts, most merited topics, users etc.

Since March 2020 I am making Brief monthly overview of the local boards activity where you can see local boards compared.

Quote from: Jet Cash on September 19, 2020, 08:09:55 AM

I'm starting to notice that several forums, including Bitcoin Talk, are not as active as they were a while ago. Also many of the threads and posts seem to be of lower quality. I would have thought that the lock downs would have increased activity, but maybe people are playing games and watching Netflix instead. I'm increasing my domain development, so maybe it is just that I'm spending more time on the net, and getting impatient. Has anyone else noticed a slowdown?

Part of the problem might be that younger generations are less likely to join forum, they prefer Discord/Telegram. Another factor might be that forum software is outdated (even though I personally like it as it looks like others forums I am using for many years), there is no things like mobile phone support etc and that also can affect amount of new people that are joining, while older ones are getting bored/tired. I am very active on 2 other forums (not crypto related), and situation is pretty similar in that regard.

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Well lets see if we can get things moving again. We need to stop obsessing with the stats, and start to develop interest in crypto, the economies, changes to fiat currencies, and various other currencies. I had a go with my threads on selling domain names for Bitcoin, both assets are increasing in value, and I'm surprised that there isn't any interest.

We have it in our power to improve things, so lets start making some interesting posts. I'll start with a stimulus thread, I'll offer 25 merits each to the 4 posters who are voted to have made the best contributions over the next week.Do you think 25 is enough, or should I make it 50.

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Since I put Polo7 and Bitcoin SV on ignore, this part of page one of what my "unread posts" looks like:

I have a lot of sections on ignore, mind you. Gambling, Bitcoin Discussion, and the entire altcoin section--but man, it really seems like there haven't been a lot of really interesting threads as of late. And as I said before, I thought it was me losing interest in the forum. It's not, though. There used to be tons of threads that I could voice an opinion in (and that was with all those sections on ignore anyway), but now it's like a desert.

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we are still here actively participating in the forum discussions. May others had been inactive for the moment because of their reason but it will just be for the moment and everything will be back to normal again.

Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on September 19, 2020, 10:25:38 AM

Frankly speaking, participation in bounty campaigns was not limited to one account in the past. Each bounty hunter had several alternatives. Today, bounty requirements have become tough, and a lot of people on the forum are tracking cheating. From here, you can calculate the real number of people that could have been on the forum in the past, if by that time you apply today's conditions.

Definitely right, It seems that most active here are the bounty hunters. Bounty hunters are spreading awareness to the internet. It became rampant actually before the implementation of rank and merit system. I was a jr. member that time and one of the users that gets demoted to newbie from not earning a single merit. It was tough time because the implementation did not reach me and I was not expecting for it to happen. Still I find way to reach at my current status.

Quote from: Eureka_07 on September 19, 2020, 09:38:08 AM

I really hope that some worthy bounty to come up and atleast give those bounty hunters what they deserved.

I have wrote something about the bounty hunters all blame to bounty hunters I am also after the welfare of those who are promoting bounty projects following the rules and regulations of the forum. I just wish that bounty hunters and all users wearing signature will get financial rewards they deserve as well.

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No.
It only shows local sections, and russian have most posts, and that is normal if we know size of Russia and it's population.
Most posts are in english language.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on September 19, 2020, 03:19:36 PM

Quote from: Rikafip on September 18, 2020, 05:22:43 AM

If we look at our local Croatian section we are doing just fine and we are active and making more or less good posts, and have normal discussion.
As for rest of the forum it is true that quality and quantity of posts has gone down, and I don't see many new genuine people joining the forum.
Young people who are into crypto never even heard about Bitcointalk, and I am directing them to join here, but often times they can't register in forum (evil fee or try later).
We are near 2021 and we do need changes to keep up with progress.

Does this chart shows that the most active users on this forum are from Russia ? They have made more than 10,000 posts in a month of August.
Can I have the full data of all the countries and how accurate is this data ?

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Quote from: Jet Cash on September 19, 2020, 08:09:55 AM

I'm starting to notice that several forums, including Bitcoin Talk, are not as active as they were a while ago. Also many of the threads and posts seem to be of lower quality. I would have thought that the lock downs would have increased activity, but maybe people are playing games and watching Netflix instead. I'm increasing my domain development, so maybe it is just that I'm spending more time on the net, and getting impatient. Has anyone else noticed a slowdown?

You may see an overall decrease in the forum posts and activity because of the new system in place. Now you cannot rank up with only activity and many account farmers have left the forum.
I think the current activity of the forum is more likely a genuine one and consists of users who are actually interested in the forum. Although there may be some account farmers still exists but those numbers are decreasing.

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Been years people quitting this forum for obvious reasons, it is a shame from a perspective but thank satoshi bitcoin is decentralized.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on September 19, 2020, 12:55:36 PM

Even since the introduction of merit system we could see drastic change in the activity on bitcointalk which is probably due to account farms stopped their working. Cheesy

Account farming has been reduced lol didn't we have that user who got almost 100 accounts connected? the are crushing the bounty campaigns back then earning thousands of stacks when the project succeeded, it seems quiet now huh.

Quote from: Findingnemo on September 19, 2020, 12:55:36 PM

And since the lockdown people got kore lazy including me so spending time on starring the videos over doing something productive or learning something.

I feel it too, it feels like I woke up everyday just to waste another time of my life. I quite lose interest in gaming these days, which I thought would save me from being bored, then it gets boring every time I play Sad

I'm not used to this

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tvplus006 has a thread with monthly stats, although it was not updated for August:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/statistics-bitcointalkorg-5206041

Without any hard numbers all I can give are seat of the pants feelings.
I left some comments in the other thread about why I feel some people might have left here.

With what other people have said about the Covid / work from home thing I can also add that people working from home might be doing more "wandering" around the net.
I know I was about to post a reply to something here the other day but wound up looking for dinner recipes and never came back to post.

So more time on line, and possibly more time on forums but just more / different ones.

-Dave

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Quote from: Rikafip on September 18, 2020, 05:22:43 AM

If we look at our local Croatian section we are doing just fine and we are active and making more or less good posts, and have normal discussion.
As for rest of the forum it is true that quality and quantity of posts has gone down, and I don't see many new genuine people joining the forum.
Young people who are into crypto never even heard about Bitcointalk, and I am directing them to join here, but often times they can't register in forum (evil fee or try later).
We are near 2021 and we do need changes to keep up with progress.

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It quite obvious and the merit system has alot of contribution to the decrease in activity on the forum. Before now an account farmer could easily spam his or her way to higher ranks using multiple accounts posting randomly on the forum and it'll appear like the forum is been engaged by different users not knowing it's just a cycle of account farmers. But with the introduction of the merit system the activity becomes useless if you don't have the required merit needed for each rank.

Assuming we didn't have this system put in place before the lockdown probably the forum would had turned into something else and become inhabitable as there won't have been any quality discuss left as a result, driving away quality contributors.

Slowly the activities will come back up, lets just give it time, just have to support @Findingnemo thought too because personally I notice some reduction in my productivity. The lockdown did make us more lazy than productive and it'll require some time to return to normal.

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Even since the introduction of merit system we could see drastic change in the activity on bitcointalk which is probably due to account farms stopped their working. Cheesy

And since the lockdown people got kore lazy including me so spending time on starring the videos over doing something productive or learning something.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on September 19, 2020, 08:09:55 AM

I would have thought that the lock downs would have increased activity, but maybe people are playing games and watching Netflix instead.

Maybe they used to use the forum in quiet hours in the office, and now they're stuck working from home with the kids around. This must be valid for at least some people, I have a hard time being productive when they're around.

Quote from: crwth on September 19, 2020, 10:50:28 AM

I thought that it's always better to use the number of online members in the forum rather than seeing the post count

I check active users occasionally, and I didn't keep exact records, but it seems to be quite stable.

Quote from: notblox1 on September 19, 2020, 12:06:13 PM

they switched to telegram and twitter.

And Discord. I don't like either one of those platforms. It's all just a big flow of messages without the structure of different boards and topics.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on September 19, 2020, 08:09:55 AM

I'm starting to notice that several forums, including Bitcoin Talk, are not as active as they were a while ago. Also many of the threads and posts seem to be of lower quality. I would have thought that the lock downs would have increased activity, but maybe people are playing games and watching Netflix instead. I'm increasing my domain development, so maybe it is just that I'm spending more time on the net, and getting impatient. Has anyone else noticed a slowdown?

I also noticed exactly the same thing and I would agree with you. Sometimes I have really hard time finding some good quality topic or discussion to join.
Post quality is way lower than usual, maybe because of multiple things like covid or some people just don't use forums like before, and they switched to telegram and twitter.
Maybe it is time to shake things up and change some forum rules.

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Same data above, but I played a bit and categorised them by weeks.
No multiplier in those plots.
Statistics fluctuate but not actually in a downtrend (as shown by the time-series plot in previous post)

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I thought that it's always better to use the number of online members in the forum rather than seeing the post count, new topics, new members, etc. Maybe that could form a better perspective on it. Maybe a lot of people as well have been focusing on other things that is necessary for them to continue on living especially with the economy today and just read. When I'm AFK and on my mobile phone, I mostly read topics but too lazy to type on my phone because I'm slower compared to keyboard typing. Maybe it's just me, lol.

It's also possible that since you have been more exposed to the forum (spending more time on the net) that you think that the activity lessened but in reality, you just noticed it more but it's still the same.

Maybe tranthidung could provide also the members online or something. For additional data and variable. Shocked

Quote from: Jet Cash on September 19, 2020, 10:41:26 AM

I would have thought that people would have been interested in ways to earn money online, and that is why I started my domaining thread in serious discussion.

It's definitely the aim of people now but what I think what hinders them is themselves. they want it fast or just too lazy to do it and doesn't believe much that you could earn money online.

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From a local board point of view it’s definitively palpable. The Spanish Local board counts amongst its assets with a dozen or so accounts that create content there with some regularity. As of late, the dozen has dropped to a handful (regular type hand, or hexadactyly at best), and that has it’s noticeable effect over there. I barely notice new accounts there that are not simpleton shillers.

I thought it was just a summertime thing, but the trend seems to persist for now. In general terms, local board net post count looks like this:
https://public.tableau.com/views/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/PostCountEvolution?:language=es&:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link

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I would have thought that people would have been interested in ways to earn money online, and that is why I started my domaining thread in serious discussion. I've only had one intelligent reply, and one for my regular troll, who I have on ignore. I'm assuming that is an ill informed attack on me,but of course I haven't read it. I guess it was handy though, as it bumped the thread, and allowed me to post without having consecutive posts.

We are in a period of massive change, and this forum seems to be focused on crypto and defi. Well that is understandable, but there are many more changes, and new business opportunities. My example domain is intended to take advantage of the increase in guard dogs and associated services resulting from housing repossessions, and civil unrest, but there are many other niches. One of the strangest in my opinion is the "flights to nowhere". You book a seat on a flight that is basically a round trip which lands back in the airport of departure. I suppose that it is an aerial mystery sight seeing tour. I'm surprised that the greenies haven't jumped all over that concept.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on September 19, 2020, 08:09:55 AM

I'm starting to notice that several forums, including Bitcoin Talk, are not as active as they were a while ago.

Actively does not equal to same or better quality. Sometimes it cause worse things like what forum has circa 2017 and lasted till nearly end of January 2018 when merit system was kicked off.

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Also many of the threads and posts seem to be of lower quality.

I agree with you on this, totally. They created threads probably to beg for merit. Honestly, chances to earn merits nowadays are much easier than in 2018 and before May or June of 2019.

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Has anyone else noticed a slowdown?

How do you define your active variable?

From data, for last 2 months and a half, levels of activities -- for new posts, topics, members daily, are very stable. I don't have data for previous period so that I can not compare. At least you did not provide which period you want to compare current activity with.

Sources:

Raw data for period from 01/7/2020 to 19/9/2020
In the plot, I used multiplier at 10 for n_mem, n_topics to have better comparative plot.

Code:

+----------------------------------------+
   | date n_mem n_topics n_posts |
   |----------------------------------------|
  1. | 01jul2020 . . . |
  2. | 02jul2020 333 184 5551 |
  3. | 03jul2020 393 164 5523 |
  4. | 04jul2020 421 178 5532 |
  5. | 05jul2020 335 135 5091 |
   |----------------------------------------|
  6. | 06jul2020 316 85 5585 |
  7. | 07jul2020 501 148 5300 |
  8. | 08jul2020 391 172 6368 |
  9. | 09jul2020 361 202 6724 |
10. | 10jul2020 418 133 6448 |
   |----------------------------------------|
11. | 11jul2020 417 82 6455 |
12. | 12jul2020 361 123 6025 |
13. | 13jul2020 277 111 6377 |
14. | 14jul2020 369 166 6615 |
15. | 15jul2020 404 154 7369 |
   |----------------------------------------|
16. | 16jul2020 437 158 7049 |
17. | 17jul2020 398 176 6929 |
18. | 18jul2020 398 136 6500 |
19. | 19jul2020 351 96 6228 |
20. | 20jul2020 471 151 7534 |
   |----------------------------------------|
21. | 21jul2020 384 153 6698 |
22. | 22jul2020 399 155 6870 |
23. | 23jul2020 376 176 6511 |
24. | 24jul2020 345 100 6567 |
25. | 25jul2020 372 166 6532 |
   |----------------------------------------|
26. | 26jul2020 312 130 6262 |
27. | 27jul2020 286 145 6948 |
28. | 28jul2020 388 59 6536 |
29. | 29jul2020 382 175 6773 |
30. | 30jul2020 391 171 6403 |
   |----------------------------------------|
31. | 31jul2020 402 196 6175 |
32. | 01aug2020 401 69 6810 |
33. | 02aug2020 320 135 5925 |
34. | 03aug2020 325 132 6523 |
35. | 04aug2020 355 118 6000 |
   |----------------------------------------|
36. | 05aug2020 422 141 6316 |
37. | 06aug2020 423 161 5606 |
38. | 07aug2020 445 127 5929 |
39. | 08aug2020 419 114 6577 |
40. | 09aug2020 356 90 6068 |
   |----------------------------------------|
41. | 10aug2020 660 123 6413 |
42. | 11aug2020 635 58 5968 |
43. | 12aug2020 490 183 6147 |
44. | 13aug2020 390 187 6381 |
45. | 14aug2020 407 144 6398 |
   |----------------------------------------|
46. | 15aug2020 352 150 6820 |
47. | 16aug2020 313 132 6227 |
48. | 17aug2020 312 111 6370 |
49. | 18aug2020 352 184 6414 |
50. | 19aug2020 443 187 6475 |
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51. | 20aug2020 349 155 6089 |
52. | 21aug2020 327 132 6414 |
53. | 22aug2020 353 131 6689 |
54. | 23aug2020 344 173 6101 |
55. | 24aug2020 284 85 6533 |
   |----------------------------------------|
56. | 25aug2020 424 177 6100 |
57. | 26aug2020 420 137 6203 |
58. | 27aug2020 386 176 6299 |
59. | 28aug2020 403 218 6062 |
60. | 29aug2020 333 110 6247 |
   |----------------------------------------|
61. | 30aug2020 494 150 5826 |
62. | 31aug2020 327 150 6460 |
63. | 01sep2020 446 172 6064 |
64. | 02sep2020 510 215 7628 |
65. | 03sep2020 471 144 6897 |
   |----------------------------------------|
66. | 04sep2020 445 77 6659 |
67. | 05sep2020 376 67 7460 |
68. | 06sep2020 311 94 6470 |
69. | 07sep2020 416 -46 6678 |
70. | 08sep2020 485 175 6662 |
   |----------------------------------------|
71. | 09sep2020 469 170 6799 |
72. | 10sep2020 426 130 6366 |
73. | 11sep2020 377 91 6593 |
74. | 12sep2020 464 73 6712 |
75. | 13sep2020 306 73 5776 |
   |----------------------------------------|
76. | 14sep2020 256 22 6206 |
77. | 15sep2020 307 166 5943 |
78. | 16sep2020 455 135 6312 |
79. | 17sep2020 411 106 6107 |
80. | 18sep2020 454 105 5961 |
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81. | 19sep2020 484 167 6529 |
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Quote from: Jet Cash on September 19, 2020, 08:09:55 AM

I would have thought that the lock downs would have increased activity, but maybe people are playing games and watching Netflix instead.

This inevitable mate. Some users are probably busy enjoying themselves by doing netflix and other fun stuff on the web. Also I think, the lack of signature campaign opened make some users bit lazy. To be honest this is one of the reason that a user post frequently and we do seldom find some users posting without signature.

Also you can say they are busy playing on uniswap with a lot of shitcoins around investing on defi shitcoins that can go to the moon.

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Quote from: Eureka_07 on September 19, 2020, 09:38:08 AM

It's probably because they are already tired. Countless efforts on participating on different bounties but will not receive any good amount of profit from their work. Who's not gonna get tired if this kind of a not so good faith keep happens to you? Bounties that are not worth to put any effort keeps on popping, no good return on the bounty hunter leading them to a conclusion to leave this crypto space.

I really hope that some worthy bounty to come up and atleast give those bounty hunters what they deserved.

Frankly speaking, participation in bounty campaigns was not limited to one account in the past. Each bounty hunter had several alternatives. Today, bounty requirements have become tough, and a lot of people on the forum are tracking cheating. From here, you can calculate the real number of people that could have been on the forum in the past, if by that time you apply today's conditions.

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I have noticed a drop in activity over the past months, although I think it could be a case of me finding fewer threads that interest me in the boards I frequently visit.
I looked at https://sitechecker.pro/traffic-checker/ to monitor the traffic on the forum over the last 6 months; can't confirm how accurate the chart is, but it shows an increase in traffic from last month after a drop between May and June;

If the chart is accurate, I would assume there was a spike in activity before May in anticipation for the halving and most people lost interest after that, as there was minimal change in price, leading to the drop in activity (this also coincides with the onset of lockdown in many countries as suggested by @mk4 above).
The current spike in traffic (last updated in August) could be a result of increased interest from institutional investors, such as the microstrategy purchase. The public may be getting bullish again about Bitcoin and renewing interest in it.

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I guess a lot of people also arrived in 2017-2018 because BTC was seriously hyped and "new" or "unknown" to many people - call it FOMO if you want.

Even though current prices of BTC (and altcoins) are doing fine, interest seems to slow down (edit: or stabilize), and I think it's quite simply because the period of "hype" has made place for a period of "oh bitcoin, wasn't that a thing of the previous decade?". Grin

I guess you're expecting too much of people's general attention span, JC. Undecided

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Definitely noticed this too in the past few weeks. It became a habit for me to refresh certain subforums that I'm interested in, and I'm frequently ever-so-slightly disappointed to not see a new decent topic posted.

If my memory serves me right though, I think we had a decent spike up in activity in the first few weeks of the lockdowns? Correct me if I'm wrong.

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It's probably because they are already tired. Countless efforts on participating on different bounties but will not receive any good amount of profit from their work. Who's not gonna get tired if this kind of a not so good faith keep happens to you? Bounties that are not worth to put any effort keeps on popping, no good return on the bounty hunter leading them to a conclusion to leave this crypto space.

I really hope that some worthy bounty to come up and atleast give those bounty hunters what they deserved.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on September 19, 2020, 08:54:21 AM

Quote from: jackg on September 19, 2020, 08:19:53 AM

We're certainly very far from the 2017 levels, there's probably fewer bounties and stuff now too to keep people here.

There are more than enough bounties there but they are not enough worthy to join. Very few bounties hit listing nowadays and even if they get listed, the payment is too low. This has been the regular scenerio of bounty since late 2018 which can be a reason of getting activity reduced.
Regarding quality, I think very few people are here with the motivation of learning about bitcoin, crypto, building business on crypto etc. Most people are motivated with the financial gain. That's why there is lack if quality discussion.

This is the main reason why there is reduction in the number of posters in this forum. Maybe, others have an alternative way to earn in cryptocurrency while others have stopped following crypto because bounty campaigns nowadays are not worthy and just a waste of time. Quality posting is still exercise in forum, there are still campaigners or posters which are eager to post quality reply or threads. We just admit that financial gain is part of the motivation that drives every user in forum.

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Jet Cash, I've definitely noticed this and when there was a thread bumped recently about the 1-merit requirement for Jr. Member status, I posted that I thought I might have been losing interest in the forum--but it's not that. There's been a lot less activity on the forum lately, and I've noticed it in Meta and Reputation (two of my favorite sections).

I don't know what happened. Are there fewer bounties/signature campaigns these days? Maybe members find ranking up too hard and thus can't earn much in sig campaigns? We all know how much bitcointalk's traffic depends on bounty hunters/campaigners. I have Services on ignore--and the bounty section, too--so I haven't had a sense of whether there have been as many of them available to members as there were in, say, 2017.

Quote from: Little Mouse on September 19, 2020, 08:54:21 AM

There are more than enough bounties there but they are not enough worthy to join. Very few bounties hit listing nowadays and even if they get listed, the payment is too low.

Yeah, but hasn't that always been the case with bounties? I don't think any of that ever stopped financially desperate members from participating in them before.

Quote from: Little Mouse on September 19, 2020, 08:54:21 AM

Regarding quality, I think very few people are here with the motivation of learning about bitcoin, crypto, building business on crypto etc. Most people are motivated with the financial gain. That's why there is lack if quality discussion.

That's always been true, at least for the entire time I've been a member here. There has to be another reason or reasons.

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Until the next full bull run it will remain slow.
When bitcoin blasts past 20k along with a lot of the top alts breaking ath
the media will be all over it again and pumpers and whales will be back to feast.

I also do not think this forum is as attractive to absolute noobs to snatch some chances as it was previously.
That was probably a necessity but I dont know if you will ever see activity here like in the last 2 bulls.

Institutional interest and activity will not pass through this board.

I would love to see this forum peak again or exceed the old peeks of activity but how to juggle the chaos and retain some quality and credibility is a tough one.

For bitcoin it will not matter for non top 20alts that could be a big problem. They may not get the exposure this board has provided in the past. I think the gold rush days are behind us.

I hope I'm wrong and this forum blasts past old records and some great alts that have been forgotten get some needed exposure. Lets see. I dont like other mediums out there and this forum could still be a great community if the right people were to return.

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Quote from: jackg on September 19, 2020, 08:19:53 AM

We're certainly very far from the 2017 levels, there's probably fewer bounties and stuff now too to keep people here.

There are more than enough bounties there but they are not enough worthy to join. Very few bounties hit listing nowadays and even if they get listed, the payment is too low. This has been the regular scenerio of bounty since late 2018 which can be a reason of getting activity reduced.
Regarding quality, I think very few people are here with the motivation of learning about bitcoin, crypto, building business on crypto etc. Most people are motivated with the financial gain. That's why there is lack if quality discussion.

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The covid 19 lockdown has made people available and free, social media activities would be the one rising now, people linking up more because they have become more available than they used to be.

Ponzi schemes and it likes has increased and interest has shifted towards it -foolishly aim to use the covid19 lockdown to earn that way-.

But acknowledging that, also we would appreciate the activities we have been getting, some/more has been of gain. If covid 19 lockdown has reduced spam posters, it's fine. In between I pray we haven't and won't lose good posters.

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We're certainly very far from the 2017 levels, there's probably fewer bounties and stuff now too to keep people here.

I'm expecting a pot of people had ambition to start something new and then decided to put it off until tomorrow and then do that every day - I was meant to send an email in March and I'm still working on it...

I always think, whenever there's a slowdown, there's normally an advantage for people bullish on cryptocurrency to start projects and start building stuff without an immonant crash or ensuing fomo.

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I'm starting to notice that several forums, including Bitcoin Talk, are not as active as they were a while ago. Also many of the threads and posts seem to be of lower quality. I would have thought that the lock downs would have increased activity, but maybe people are playing games and watching Netflix instead. I'm increasing my domain development, so maybe it is just that I'm spending more time on the net, and getting impatient. Has anyone else noticed a slowdown?

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