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legendary
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The Flynn thing is interesting.

If you purger yourself during a guilty plea, and the guilty plea is part of a plea deal to avoid much more serious crimes, and then you get everything thrown out....he's going to face charges for the crimes he actually committed right?  And not get any credit for all the cooperation.

I mean, we know Turkey was paying him when he wrote that op-ed.  And we know he lied on his financial disclosures.  And we know he didn't register as foreign agent till he got caught...and that's one item on a list of many things...

What is his play here?  Are people really going to rally around him and claim exoneration because he wasn't told not to lie to the FBI?



Was reading some broadstrokes of the politico article regarding all of this, and it all looks a bit weird. Here's one of the quotes that I grabbed that was a bit weird from one of the FBI officials:

“What is our goal? Truth/admission or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired?” the notes read.

That just sounds a bit weird. I know that it is a common goal of investigators to ask you questions that they already know the answer to, it just comes off a bit weird to me. I think that Flynn is praying that the new Justice Department under the lead of William Barr will be a bit friendly towards him.

I know Barr has a taskforce setup to investigate the investigation of Barr to see if there was any wrongdoing, still ongoing.

Check out his guilty plea: https://www.justice.gov/file/1015126/download

I take back the perjury statement earlier...it doesn't seem like he's actually claiming innocent (I could be wrong).

I don't get how there is such a huge rally around the guy.  I mean, I get he was a huge asset to the military...but he obviously broke the law, admitted it and took a deal that very likely would result in no jail time.

Am I missing something Tecshare?  Do you think he's actually innocent?  Or just not care that he's guilty since you share political views?

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The Flynn thing is interesting.

If you purger yourself during a guilty plea, and the guilty plea is part of a plea deal to avoid much more serious crimes, and then you get everything thrown out....he's going to face charges for the crimes he actually committed right?  And not get any credit for all the cooperation.

I mean, we know Turkey was paying him when he wrote that op-ed.  And we know he lied on his financial disclosures.  And we know he didn't register as foreign agent till he got caught...and that's one item on a list of many things...

What is his play here?  Are people really going to rally around him and claim exoneration because he wasn't told not to lie to the FBI?



Was reading some broadstrokes of the politico article regarding all of this, and it all looks a bit weird. Here's one of the quotes that I grabbed that was a bit weird from one of the FBI officials:

“What is our goal? Truth/admission or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired?” the notes read.

That just sounds a bit weird. I know that it is a common goal of investigators to ask you questions that they already know the answer to, it just comes off a bit weird to me. I think that Flynn is praying that the new Justice Department under the lead of William Barr will be a bit friendly towards him.

I know Barr has a taskforce setup to investigate the investigation of Barr to see if there was any wrongdoing, still ongoing.
legendary
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The Flynn thing is interesting.

If you purger yourself during a guilty plea, and the guilty plea is part of a plea deal to avoid much more serious crimes, and then you get everything thrown out....he's going to face charges for the crimes he actually committed right?  And not get any credit for all the cooperation.

I mean, we know Turkey was paying him when he wrote that op-ed.  And we know he lied on his financial disclosures.  And we know he didn't register as foreign agent till he got caught...and that's one item on a list of many things...

What is his play here?  Are people really going to rally around him and claim exoneration because he wasn't told not to lie to the FBI?

legendary
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2017..."new" It is also a report from the very people responsible for the crimes. Very reliable.

My bad, I only linked the original report. (I edited it)

The Senate intelligence committee (Republican Run) just finished their review of the 2017 intelligence report and turns out it was all good.

"We reviewed our crimes, we declare ourselves not guilty! Everyone can go home now. Nothing to see here!"



Quoting because of attempts at topic sliding:


"Unsealed FBI Handwritten Notes, Emails Reveal Agents Plotted Perjury Trap On Flynn"

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/powell-unsealed-fbi-handwritten-notes-emails-reveal-agents-plotted-perjury-trap-flynn


"Surprise discovery in Flynn case: former lawyers find evidence they failed to produce"

https://www.judicialwatch.org/documents/jw-v-dod-baker-ignatius-prod-1-03564/



"Judicial Watch: Emails Show Extensive Communications Between Senior Defense Official and Columnist Who Published Leaked Info on Flynn Calls with Russian Ambassador"

https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-releases/flynn-dodofficial-columnist/
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2017..."new" It is also a report from the very people responsible for the crimes. Very reliable.

My bad, I only linked the original report. (I edited it)

The Senate intelligence committee (Republican Run) just finished their review of the 2017 intelligence report and turns out it was all good.
legendary
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REPORT
OF THE
SELECT COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCE
UNITED STATES SENATE
ON
RUSSIAN ACTIVE MEASURES CAMPAIGNS AND INTERFERENCE
IN THE 2016 U.S. ELECTION

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf





Republican-Led Review Backs Intelligence Findings on Russian Interference

"A new Senate report undercuts claims by President Trump and his allies that Obama-era officials sought to undermine him while investigating Russia’s 2016 election meddling."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/21/us/politics/russian-interference-senate-intelligence-report.html

2017..."new" It is also a report from the very people responsible for the crimes. Very reliable.


"Surprise discovery in Flynn case: former lawyers find evidence they failed to produce"

https://www.judicialwatch.org/documents/jw-v-dod-baker-ignatius-prod-1-03564/



"Judicial Watch: Emails Show Extensive Communications Between Senior Defense Official and Columnist Who Published Leaked Info on Flynn Calls with Russian Ambassador"

https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-releases/flynn-dodofficial-columnist/
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REPORT
SELECT COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCE
UNITED STATES SENATE ON
RUSSIAN ACTIVE MEASURES CAMPAIGNS AND INTERFERENCE IN THE 2016 U.S. ELECTION
VOLUME 4: REVIEW OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY ASSESSMENT WITH ADDITIONAL VIEWS

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume4.pdf




REPORT
OF THE
SELECT COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCE
UNITED STATES SENATE
ON
RUSSIAN ACTIVE MEASURES CAMPAIGNS AND INTERFERENCE
IN THE 2016 U.S. ELECTION

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf





Republican-Led Review Backs Intelligence Findings on Russian Interference

"A new Senate report undercuts claims by President Trump and his allies that Obama-era officials sought to undermine him while investigating Russia’s 2016 election meddling."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/21/us/politics/russian-interference-senate-intelligence-report.html
legendary
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legendary
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"Declassified Horowitz Footnotes Show Obama Officials Knew Steele Dossier Was Russian Disinformation Designed To Target Trump"

https://saraacarter.com/declassified-horowitz-footnotes-show-obama-officials-knew-steele-dossier-was-russian-disinformation-designed-to-target-trump/
legendary
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"Dershowitz Says Obama "Personally Asked" FBI To Investigate Someone For George Soros"

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dershowitz-says-obama-personally-asked-fbi-investigate-someone-george-soros

I'd like to see George Soros investigated.

I get the impression that is already happening.

Many issues of instability and irrationality seem to lead back to him. Certainly the "No Borders" issue, that plagued Europe, and which was / is being attempted at the US Southern border. Certain of the New Democratic platform ideas, essentially the ones that are obvious nonsense and can't be funded.

legendary
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"Dershowitz Says Obama "Personally Asked" FBI To Investigate Someone For George Soros"

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dershowitz-says-obama-personally-asked-fbi-investigate-someone-george-soros

I'd like to see George Soros investigated.

I get the impression that is already happening.
legendary
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"Dershowitz Says Obama "Personally Asked" FBI To Investigate Someone For George Soros"

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dershowitz-says-obama-personally-asked-fbi-investigate-someone-george-soros

I'd like to see George Soros investigated.
legendary
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"Dershowitz Says Obama "Personally Asked" FBI To Investigate Someone For George Soros"

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dershowitz-says-obama-personally-asked-fbi-investigate-someone-george-soros
legendary
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Not speculation. Facts. Also the fact is the entire investigation into Trump hinged on those Carter Page warrants, meaning this whole fucking process was illegal.

I suspect the best is yet to come.

Oh, I suspect the vast majority of people have no idea of the scope of what is about to happen.

https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-claim-real-impeachment-has-never-been-tried

“What the people don’t understand,” Pelosi continued, “is that real impeachment, like real socialism, will solve all of their problems. The common people can’t be trusted to own things or to elect a President I like. It’s just better for everyone if we in Washington seize the means of election.”

When asked for her definition of real impeachment, Pelosi described it as a fair and unbiased process that would always give her the predetermined outcome she wanted.

“We’re going to keep trying until we get it right,” she declared ominously.

legendary
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...

Not speculation. Facts. Also the fact is the entire investigation into Trump hinged on those Carter Page warrants, meaning this whole fucking process was illegal.

I suspect the best is yet to come.

Oh, I suspect the vast majority of people have no idea of the scope of what is about to happen.
legendary
Activity: 2926
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...

Not speculation. Facts. Also the fact is the entire investigation into Trump hinged on those Carter Page warrants, meaning this whole fucking process was illegal.

I suspect the best is yet to come.
legendary
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"The FISA court's top judge wrote in a secret ruling on January 7 that at least two of the four spy warrants against Carter Page were invalid and not lawfully authorized."

That's basically what the IG report said also.  The FISA process was fucked up. Also there was an agent who falsified some records.

imo Page's rights were violated and something should be done to prevent that from happening again and hopefully page will get some sort of compensation or something.

The IG was taking all of this into account when he issued the report and the recent ruling only addresses one aspect of the investigation, the FISA warrants that the original report already called out.

I was just pointing this out to anyone that may have a tendency to speculate and make assumptions based on headlines alone.

Quote
Horowitz concluded the FBI was legally justified in launching its inquiry into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election. There was no "documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the FBI’s decision to conduct these operations," the report said.

The 400-page report debunks claims by the president and his allies that political bias played a role in the FBI's decision to investigate members of the Trump campaign for possible coordination with Russia. The inspector general also said there was "no evidence" the FBI placed any undercover sources or agents in the Trump campaign or had them attend campaign events.

Not speculation. Facts. Also the fact is the entire investigation into Trump hinged on those Carter Page warrants, meaning this whole fucking process was illegal.
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"The FISA court's top judge wrote in a secret ruling on January 7 that at least two of the four spy warrants against Carter Page were invalid and not lawfully authorized."

That's basically what the IG report said also.  The FISA process was fucked up. Also there was an agent who falsified some records.

imo Page's rights were violated and something should be done to prevent that from happening again and hopefully page will get some sort of compensation or something.

The IG was taking all of this into account when he issued the report and the recent ruling only addresses one aspect of the investigation, the FISA warrants that the original report already called out.

I was just pointing this out to anyone that may have a tendency to speculate and make assumptions based on headlines alone.

Quote
Horowitz concluded the FBI was legally justified in launching its inquiry into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election. There was no "documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the FBI’s decision to conduct these operations," the report said.

The 400-page report debunks claims by the president and his allies that political bias played a role in the FBI's decision to investigate members of the Trump campaign for possible coordination with Russia. The inspector general also said there was "no evidence" the FBI placed any undercover sources or agents in the Trump campaign or had them attend campaign events.
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