Topic: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations - page 2. (Read 4540 times)

Haven't gotten through much of the most recent Senate Intelligence report personally so not sure how accurate this article is, but it doesn't look good.

"Trump’s Business Partners Allegedly Involved In Human Trafficking, Mafia Matters, Probable Money Laundering"

A new report from the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence offers a damning portrait of the people Donald Trump chose as his partners for potential projects in Russia. They include individuals with alleged connections to the mob, to Vladimir Putin and to human trafficking.

The group would comprise an extraordinary list of associates for any international businessman, let alone for the sitting president of the United States.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2020/08/20/trumps-business-partners-allegedly-involved-in-human-trafficking-mafia-matters-probable-money-laundering

Four years of continual vigilance pays off! you've found a BADDIE!

A boat owned by a Chinese billionaire.

Imagine if Obamas former chief strategist or someone connected to the Clintons or Bidens campaign was arrested for fraud involving a charity where people donated their money to support Obama care while aboard a yacht owned by a Chinese billionaire...what a great day that would be for TECSHARE.

What's wrong with pulling a Lenny Bruce? Or maybe they've changed the laws and tightened the loopholes.

Charities can be scammy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenny_Bruce

Bruce's desire to help his wife cease working as a stripper led him to pursue schemes that were designed to make as much money as possible. The most notable was the Brother Mathias Foundation scam, which resulted in Bruce's arrest in Miami, Florida, in 1951 for impersonating a priest. He had been soliciting donations for a leper colony in British Guiana (now Guyana) under the auspices of the "Brother Mathias Foundation", which he had legally chartered—the name was his own invention, but possibly referred to the actual Brother Matthias who had befriended Babe Ruth at the Baltimore orphanage to which Ruth had been confined as a child.[38]
Bruce had stolen several priests' clergy shirts and a clerical collar while posing as a laundry man. He was found not guilty because of the legality of the New York state-chartered foundation, the actual existence of the Guiana leper colony, and the inability of the local clergy to expose him as an impostor. Later, in his semifictional autobiography How to Talk Dirty and Influence People, Bruce said that he had made about $8,000 in three weeks, sending $2,500 to the leper colony and keeping the rest.

Arrested on a boat... like a bad Hollywood cliche. Wasn't Bannon a film producer at some point or am I mixing him up with some other sketchy trumpster?

I'm kind of surprised he got caught, always thought of him as super intelligent.  Guess he covers his crime as sloppy as he looks.

Apparently he spent weeks out in the middle of the ocean then was arrested when he arrived on the coast. Fuck him, honestly. Dude's always been a grifter.

Steve Bannon got arrested today for scamming people that thought they were donating money to the border wall.

That will be a fun investigation to read about.


Imagine if 4 years ago someone told you Flynn, Manafort, Cohen would all be convicted felons with Bannon on his way to join them.

The "may" is not "was". The result of the bolded section would be "no evidence that Kilimnik was connected...".

Reading too much into something, and converting "may" into a certainty, isn't real.

starting to see a pattern here with people that didnt bother to read the mueller report claiming whole thing is a hoax

theres also the ig report from trumps hand picked ig that found obama administration did not do anything wrong. im guessing they didnt bother reading that either and just believe what they are told to believe instead.

This is a good example of why you should read the Mueller report yourself rather than relying on media reports and sound bytes from politicians.

While the words 'peace plan' were used, what they were really discussing was allowing Russia (our adversary) to take over Eastern Ukraine (our ally).



It's not innuendo. What I'm saying is in both the Mueller report and the Senate Intelligence report that came out today.  You can read it for yourself: https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volume5.pdf





This is all from the Senate Report, chaired by Marco Rubio.

I did unintentionally misrepresent one thing though - I claimed the report said Kilimnik 'likely' was involved with the DNC hack and leak, the report actually says 'The Committee obtained some information suggesting Kilimnik may have been connected to the GRU's hack and leak operation targeting the 2016 U.S. election.'  My bad.


It's tedious having to go back over what I've already read to explain it, will you please just read it for yourself before making any more claims about what it contains?  You don't have to read the whole thing, but at the very least check out what I laid out for you in this post.  There's really no other way to objectively understand what's in the report.

Oh, wow. Trump was trying to end a war and achieve peace? He should be immediately impeached and tried for treason.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it looks like Trump might be colluding with Israel and the UAE based on your standards, via the peace agreement that Trump brokered.

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I hope you can acknowledge that all of what you are saying is innuendo. In fact, it is normal for Presidential campaigns to discuss foreign policy with various foreign governments.

What is not normal is for a presidential campaign to pay for foreign disinformation, nor is it normal for a presidential campaign to spy on its rival campaign.

I seem to recall stating in 2016 that Sanders would not be allowed to become the Democratic candidate, but you knew better.

I seem to recall stating in 2019 that Sanders would not be allowed to become the Democratic candidate, but you knew better.

The reality you want may not be the reality you have gotten.

Why not get on a team of winners, instead of losers?

I could post what the ranking Democrat said about the report, but we can just read for ourselves what the report says.  

They found that the chairman of the Trump campaign was secretly sharing sensitive internal campaign data with a Russian intelligence officer.

They also found that the chairman of the Trump campaign frequently discussed a 'peace plan' that would benefit Russia greatly in the Ukraine/Russia disagreement.

They also found that the Russian Intelligence officer that Trumps campaign chairman was secretly sharing sensitive campaign data with was likely directly involved in the hacking of the DNC and leaking of emails right before the election.

There is tons more...


All of these things happened.  Saying 'no collusion' over and over again is a distraction attempt.

“We can say, without any hesitation, that the Committee found absolutely no evidence that then Candidate Donald Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government to meddle in the 2016 election”
-Senator Marco Rubio, Chairmen, Senate Intelligence Committee 

Let me know if you decide to read it.

Andrew Weissman, who was likely the one actually running the investigation, was very aggressive in pursuing prosecutions. Further the Mueller report was full of innuendo.

I can assure you that if there was evidence of collusion, Trump would have been promptly impeached for it. Instead the Democrats waited until someone from intelligence agencies were willing to work with Democrats to impeach Trump over a perfect phone call.

Despite Trump repeating that over and over again, it's just not true. They did.  What they (Mueller) didn't find was enough evidence that Trump himself was involved or aware of what was going on to charge him with a crime.  It seems highly likely that he was though.

You should really just read the Mueller report for yourself.  It's very complicated, which is why I think Trump has been able to be so effective and convincing people to just take his word and not bother reading it themselves,  but I'll walk you through part of it:

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf
(the table of contents is clickable)

Read the section on Paul Manafort. (p. 129-145 of the report)  You gotta read the whole section.

Note the date of his second meeting with Kilimnik in NYC

Google Trumps statements on Crimea from just before that meeting. (They're also in the report somewhere)

Read Trumps written response to question IV. It's from an appendix, page 436 of the pdf.

Keep in mind Mueller report referred to Kilimnik as someone 'with ties to Russia' and todays Republican lead Senate Intel report confirms he is a Russian intelligence officer.

They found no evidence that the Trump Campaign collided or conspired with the Russian government.

There are many foreign governments that try to interfere with our elections, just as the US government interferes with other foreign elections. Remember when Obama said the UK would “go to the back of the queue” for trade deals if they voted for Brexit? Unless you are investigating *all* instances of election interference, you are cherry-picking facts to produce propaganda.

No, Russia didn’t get Trump elected with $100k worth of Facebook ads that were mostly shown after the election. Multiple billions of dollars were spent on advertising in the 2016 election cycle.

"G.O.P.-Led Senate Panel Details Ties Between 2016 Trump Campaign and Russia"
A nearly 1,000-page report confirmed the special counsel’s findings at a moment when President Trump’s allies have sought to undermine that inquiry.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/senate-intelligence-russian-interference-report.html

Here's the report: https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volume5.pdf



If you still think the Russia investigation was a hoax, now would be a good time to push your head a little further into the mud.