Topic: Regulation: Brazil closes 2000 gambling sites - page 4. (Read 1781 times)

Before the government take decision, they must research everything so they will not make a wrong decision and will give a bad effect to their people. They can get the income from all businesses in their country but they should discuss it with all elements so all regulations that they create will gives a positive effect to their country. Related to gambling, the government should research the impact to their people and make communication to many people so they know what is happen to their citizen. If they think that gambling can gives a bad effect to their citizen, they may strictly their regulations and not tolerate if people who doesn't 18+ playing gambling.

They can continue playing gambling but will not show to many people to avoids the tax. You can see many people avoids tax even they are not playing gambling and running a clear business. They think that tax only reduce their profit and they want to have that money for their own interest.

That can happens to gamblers where they will still playing gambling without paying tax if they win because they know how to hide their winning. Tax should be impose but the officers who does their job must be clear from any illegal things so the tax can be distribute to the right place.

But it won’t completely stop gamblers. There are actually countries where gambling is banned some gamblers still find ways to keep betting. I think , when gambling is part of the culture (as it is in some countries), it’s tough to break that cycle. The most a government can do is try to discourage it, but how effective is that really? They might just be pushing tax revenue away. With the popularity of online casinos, no matter what kind of restrictions are in place, there’s always a way for someone resourceful enough to gamble.

"Closed" isn’t the right term since most of these gambling sites operate outside the country, making it impossible for them to be shut down by local authorities. It’s more accurate to say they are blocking these sites' domains to make them inaccessible to citizens within the country.


The law is applied uniformly, and what you’re mentioning is just speculation. If you believe that, then you’re also implying that the government is corrupt. According to the reports, gambling hasn’t been entirely shut down; around 10% of the sites that were mentioned have complied and are operating legally. Those sites are still running now.

You are wrong my friend, it will affect them, the higher the tax, the higher the discouragement, this is normal economics everywhere in the world. Though some ardent gamblers and the addicted ones may continue to gamble all the same, the percentage of those who were supposed to gamble must have drastically reduced. Taxes have reasons beyond the government's revenue target, it also dissuades people from those activities. Imagine the government of a country increases the taxes to about 85%, do you think the majority of people will continue? Of course not. People mostly gamble for money but if they can only earn 15% of the money they narrowly win, what is the point of gambling?

We don't know the inner history of their decision to close those gambling sites. It may happened that they are closed those ones which have refused to cooperate with government on sensitive matter or to gave them the protective money. Should they close all gambling sites I would understand their action but  some  sites remained  untouched, I wonder how many.

Why did you decide that these $100 will definitely be spent on something else? It is possible that a person will decide to keep them and keep them under the pillow, start investing or other options. Isn't that so?

I don't like the fact that the government interferes in all spheres of human activity, leaving no right to privacy. If I may say so, it is a jack of all trades.

I had to go to YouTube to understand what's really going on in Brazil and interestingly gambling was legalized around 2018 and ever since this vice has been on the raise...and like any freedoms , responsibility is needed and unfortunately this has gone out of hand as many families are being negatively affected as a result of gambling and the government's hand has been forced to protect its citizens....I know the few that a profiting from it will not like this decision but looking at the big picture this is a sober decision that means we'll for friends and family.

But with online gambling being big, this fight won't be easy tbh...

One of the main responsibility of the government is to make a country livable and making it secure into its citizens on which it will really be that a huge problem if they would really be able to see gambling addiction related kind of crime on which this has been caused by too much addiction due to uncontrollable gambling businesses that resides or available on such country. Whereas, the government will neither be making out some decision whether they will really be that still allowing it or would be making out such step on banning it out because of the effects that it do brings up. If they would really be prioritizing about taxation and revenue that it does give on a certain country then they wont really be caring about addiction then there's nothing we can do about it. Actually addiction is something a problem which is really that personal and if it turned out to be severe then this is where potential problems would really be rising and thats why on the moment that it will happen into you then it will really be normal that you should really be doing on what the things that must be done.
You are really indeed having that common sense whether you are still doing the right stuff or not. It is really just there are individuals who are really that good on controlling things and able to avoid addictions.

You can imagine what will happen if many citizens addicted to gambling? That will gives more problem to each families to take care on of their family's members who addicted to gambling. They can commits many bad things as someone who addicted will needs money to keeps playing gambling. If crime increase in that country, that will makes the government busy to solve it and they must search for the root of the problem. And when the government find the root is because gambling addiction, they must help their citizens because that can impact to many things. The government can get taxes from the other businesses and they will realize that they can not get the tax from the gambling business because that can makes their citizen in trouble. But we know that many officer governments in many countries can be bribed by the casino so the casino doesn't have to pay the tax.

With such a huge number of websites (2000), there’s no need to reach out to each one individually - a single law would already set the guidelines they need to follow to operate legally, covering all necessary compliance info. But it’s clear now that some sites only aim to make money without any intention of paying taxes, which is why they’re getting blocked now.

Shutting down and blocking something is completely different.
Facebook is banned and blocked in China, Chipmixer was closed down, you can see the difference from the space shuttle.
The most important thing in this is that they didn't even care about those websites and didn't bother with them case by case, they told everyone to get licensed, and whoever gets one is unblocked the rest will stay on that list, and the authorities seem to not care a bit on anything else.


It's false, if a guy plays $100 and loses it in a casino the government will get a bit of it from the tax they collect, but if he stops playing it doesn't mean he will burn those $100, he will buy stuff with it and then the government will get VAT and the profit from the merchants who sold him the stuff.
Just because somebody stops playing with money doesn't mean that amount evaporates from the economy.

Don't you find a contradiction in your words? Is it really profitable for the government to take care that its citizens do not become addicted to gambling? No, it is not so. If a person stops playing, then taxes will not be collected from him, and the casinos themselves will not receive income and the state will not receive anything for the treasury. So think about this fact. Yes, I understand that it looks very cynical, but this is the current reality and nothing can be done about it.

Tax will never stop gamblers from gambling even if the government imposing so high such as 50% or more. They will still playing gambling and try to win the money. But if gamblers can thinks realistic, they will reconsider to limit their their gambling activities or even they will stop their gambling activities because they think the percentage is not make sense. 15% for their citizens  can be done but the government needs to educate their citizens not to playing gambling too often so they don't have to pay tax or lose their money.

When the governments get more taxes from the online casinos, that will be additional income for the country. The government can ask to that online casinos that if they still want to operate in their country, those online casinos needs to follow the regulation and pay the taxes.

They still allowed online gambling, but those who have fully cooperated with the regulations, and those 2000 are not and are illegal that's why the government closes them down for good. So yes, you are correct that gambling is not totally ban, but it will make it harder for gamblers I guess as the government will have to make sure that their citizens are not going to be addicted and for those casinos to follow the regulations imposed, otherwise, one mistakes will cost them a lot.

And I do agree that it is very hard to curb gambling by the government, unless it's really authoritative and doesn't give power to the people. So I would consider Brazilians still lucky as they can continue to gambling, albeit, they have to minimized it at some point.

For me, a 15% tax on gambling can never stop most gamblers from gambling, it will take above 50% to make enough gamblers reconsider or limit their gambling activities. This 15% is on their citizens but it is worse with gambling operators in the country, they have to part ways with 55-58% of their income for various taxes in the country. That's huge.

But this recent ban on online casinos is not meant to gain more taxes but to make sure that those online casinos gaining from their citizens who are not registered in the country also pay taxes to the government.

No, he doesn't have to give up from gambling. He can still use gambling to fills his free time but he must know how to control himself. Gambling can makes someone forget about controlling himself easily so it is better if he doesn't playing gambling too often.

The government should cares about their citizens and if closed the gambling sites or offline casinos is a good decision, they can do that. All of that is because they don't want to see their citizens becomes addicted to gambling. They can get the tax from the other business in their country.

And if a person has free time from work, which he wants to spend only in this way. Does he really need to give up gambling? Well, that's a definition of all this.

Well, yes, even such a tax will not be an obstacle for dependent people. They don't give a damn about such a thing. This state of affairs may not look very good, but there is no particular choice.

This is why it is said that  power belongs to the government and when certain issues that ain't going well with them comes up they take full responsibility in making sure it is either eliminated or tackled and I like the fact that they are taking such bold steps in making sure gambling is being regulated all over the country.and of a truth Brazil are known for Massive gambling activities and it's high time the government make things right, you can imagine the number of sites they are actually shutting down so a new leaf for Brazil.

The topic title doesn’t actually say the gambling industry is banned, and yeah, it’s true they shut down 2,000 online gambling sites or restricted access to them. But for those who didn’t read the article, it might look like gambling’s totally banned. Really, these are just numbers, and it doesn’t take away gamblers' options, since plenty of casinos are still operating legally and following the rules.

This is something that we must see clearly, first of all a Government that is socialist / communist does not care if the casino is big or small, if they do not reach an agreement with the government things are delicate because they simply do not want to end these companies, because a casino is a company, governments if they see that the companies benefit and not them, prefer to eliminate them, this is how regulations are born, that these "Regulations" are a nice word to have the acceptance of an exercise as such, in this case the Casinos and they invent pure excuses, how to avoid addiction and all that type of things.