Topic: Regulation: Brazil closes 2000 gambling sites - page 4. (Read 1279 times)

That will be a difficult for the government if they see the gambling addiction matters in their country increase because that needs a seriousness to take care. They can impose ban for those illegal casino that operates in their country but that doesn't guarantee the other illegal casino will close their business. We know that the illegal casinos can running their business in the underground without many people knows.

That will needs work hard and smart from the government to search for the rest of illegal casinos and close or ban it. But what they must cares is their citizens because that numbers of gambling addiction can increase anytime. They must use different approaches to closest to their citizens and explain all things in details. If their citizens realize the danger of playing gambling, they will start to reduce their gambling activity or even they will stop gambling because they don't get the benefits of gambling.

That's what came to my mind as well when I read the article, and I guess it's the right of the government to regulate these online gambling casinos in order for them to earn tax.

I'm not an economist nor good at economy, but what I believe is that the economy of Brazil has been hit for years already and they need to find a way to make more money and regulating these gambling sites is for me the best way to do it knowing that like you said already, the Brazilian people are spending thousands or even tens of thousands to gamble. As for these gambling site owners, they need to comply because they might lose a huge portion of their monthly revenue. Whatever the case is, it's almost the same with our country where the government wanted those gambling sites to be regulated or else, they will be stopped to operate here. Same thing with Brazil.

That's not really the point here. If you check the source, there are still plenty of casinos allowed to operate, so I don’t think there’s a shortage that’d push gamblers into underground spots. The government is just shutting down those that don’t bring any benefit but keeping the ones that follow the new rules. So, the government hasn’t done anything wrong here - it’s the casinos that don’t want to comply that’ll lose out, and honestly, that seems fair.

Let's face it, gambling companies are very easy targets for any politicians who need to divert attention from other problems at any time, nobody is going to be sticking up for them and it makes the government look tough. The reality is though, it's restricting what the citizens and driving betting underground where customers are more vulnerable to to the worst kinds of gambling organizations. It will likely end up with less revenue for the government, because people will still find their fix and probably take it offshore where the Brazilian government has no power at all. They are actually doing damage to themselves and every citizen by being so heavy handed like this.

The move they took is indeed a good one in forcing the hand of the casino owners, and I come and register and fully be regulated. That's if they value the population of gamblers. From there, some business owners just don't want to pay tax and follow laws. 
 
Some among the 2000 will definitely comply with why some will want to leave the market or will want to operate illegally using whatever means they know, which will be a double risk to them.

This seems to me to be a very unfair act and worthy of a totally authoritarian government, the business models of the casinos are very profitable and that is why governments do this type of thing, this does not surprise me anymore , I live in a country where it is exactly the same , except that the Corruption of the rulers is so great that they negotiate with the Owners of the casinos in order to operate and give them large portions of money that are not normal or similar to taxes, the amounts of money they must pay them are much more juicier , it is the only way they can operate, I imagine that in Brazil the president will want to get to that.

If these 2000 casino gambling sites are the ones that include the biggest names or the trusted ones, then it's not fair otherwise, it's fine. I am sure people are still wagering on very small casinos with barely any support only to get scammed. And governments do not want this to happen with their citizens. Big casinos should be allowed to run, here big is the ones that are running from years and are trusted by the community.

Brazil is preparing for a fully regulated market in January 2025, all the blockings were timed for this upcoming event. All sites that did not comply with the requirement to obtain the appropriate license by September 30 were blocked, but all players were given a grace period of 10 days so that they could withdraw their funds. Now those who were blocked will decide whether they want to operate in a country with such a regulated market, maybe not all will care about obtaining a license.

Pretty sure that this is really that the main reason on why they did really made out such act on which trying out to regulate on to those platforms or companies which are running legally. We do know that when it comes to this aspect on which there would really be those running illegally and they would be trying to filter it out and thats why they do make out such ban but of course its not completely a prohibition since you could be able to register or make your business be allowed through getting some permit or license. We do know on how gambling industry do make out such revenue and thats why they would really be trying out to get those
kind of benefits on getting those taxes out of those business. If it was really that intended on having that total ban because they are really that planning to have that protection towards gambling addiction then
they will really be not allowing even a single gambling platform or business that would be running in the country.

Closing up 2000 gambling sites? Wondering on how they do able to do it, specially now that accessibility isnt really something that could really be stopped in todays technological advancement.
There would really be those individuals who would really be trying out to bypass on something on which they would really be that interested into.

This possible reasons are actually valid reasons. The only problem is if the Brazil government will really take the welfare of the gamblers seriously and not just for what they stand to gain financially from these casinos if they be in control of those casinos. Some  countries will claim that gambling activities in their countries are regulated, but when the gamblers are faced with some challenges with these regulated casinos, the government's laws are silent on those challenges. Flushing out the gambling sites that are not recognised is not just enough regulation, the government should also put in place laws that will settle disputes between the gamblers and the casinos amicably. I will only commend the efforts put in place by the Brazilian government if they will put in thesame energy in putting the welfare of the gamblers into consideration too.

Yes, that’s right. Brazil did all that for a reason and that is because many of these online gambling platforms do not comply with the rules in the country and another reason is because many Brazilians are addicted to gambling which threatens social welfare.

So, Brazil blocked 2 thousand online gambling sites. Those are actually illegal online gambling sites because of the lack of implementation of gambling sector regulations in the country. So it is very natural for Brazil to make regulations to tighten the rules on gambling again. Brazil took this step following the increasing concerns about gambling addiction, especially among the lower and middle classes who are vulnerable to this problem. This step aims to regulate and tax gambling companies, while protecting society from the risks of gambling and other negative impacts caused by online gambling.

I think that this decision by the Brazilian government to shutdown these many gambling sites is a win win decision for them and their citizens. They'll want to cutdown the numbers of casinos to reduce the rate of gambling addiction in the country. If Brazilian people are the biggest gamblers in the world, that means that it's most likely that they'll have the highest number of addicted gamblers. The more gambling sites that is available will likely entice more people to gamble, thereby increasing the numbers of addicted persons. On the other hand they'll want to put a strong regulation in place to cash in on the booming casino businesses in their country.

Governments thrive on taxation and they'll want to enforce regulations to get their own shares from lucrative businesses. I'm believing that after the exercise that it's only a few casinos reputable casinos that will remain in that country.

I believe they have their reason for doing that. I have pick some points from your statement that could possibly be the cause of flushing the 200 online gambling domain .

1) to impose tax on the casino or to put it in a regulated mannar where money can be made by the government.
2) to reduce crime caused by addiction, because addiction in gambling can Leed to addiction thereby causing crime amongst the youth.
3) reducing the rate of underaged gambling .
And if you watch out this factors listed, it has really affected the youth, and it's the possible cause of those things that happen. even though it surely affected everyone both old and young.

What you said is the truth, if closing or shutting down this number of gambling sites was done to right some wrongs in terms of doing the right thing I think Brasil is in the track, am very much against witch hunting but the right thing should be done, there should be regulation after all there is a government in that country and I believe its for the good of the country at large, gambling companies shouldn't be operating through the back door, if they want to do business in any country, it should be done appropriately.
Gambling companies are making a lot money so they shouldn't be left untaxed, regulation will make these companies not to default on gamblers side too.
You have said it all which I believe is the right thing, if what the government did is to get their attention in other to correct somethings then its fine, very soon many country will do the same to gambling companies that are operating in their country but not ready to comply to their terms.

Then were should allow people to do drugs, commit suicide, burn themselves, and mutilate because, it's their life right, and they have all the rights to do whatever they want with it?
Now, who is paying for the consequences of one destroying his life, because that's the thing, for 20 years at least money has been spent on this individual by society, he has used the money others have worked for and when is his time to contribute he chooses to destroy his life and guess who is going to foot the bill for all his actions, and this coming short of the uy not doing anything that might hurt somebody else.
The true cost of completely different from what you imagine, imagine a society where 10% are throwing their life away and living only to steal, get in debt, and lose money on gambling. Should that be ok because it's their life their choice?


You would have to be a special type of masochist to use a VPN to a casino that knows you're not allowed to play, they are not allowed to offer you their services and go through all of the trouble to find a payment that would never connect to your identity all that for an out of the blue KYC requirement to get your account frozen and your money seized.

I think when he said cooperate, he's basically talking about getting a license to keep running their operation.

The real reason they’re blocking those without a license is that they’re operating freely without paying taxes. So by blocking them, they’re basically pushing these operators to get licensed to keep going, and that way, the government can start collecting taxes from them.

The title made it seem like as if Brazil just randomly decided to close 2000 gambling sites for no reason but they actually closed these gambling platforms because they didn’t adhere to the rules. Despite some of these platforms being huge having to sponsor some big teams, they didn’t comply to the regulations set by the Brazilian government. Thus it’s just fair that they get closed down.

Some would still have the opportunity to open once they comply with the rules. Like you said, this shows how serious the government is about being strict towards their rules and regulations. If they were to cut one platform some slack, they would have to do it to everyone else. So better to be strict and close as many as they see fit.

What do you mean by "will the closed websites cooperate?"? Those websites were shut down by their hosting providers upon government request. There's no way for their owners to cooperate. The Brazilian government will probably lose revenue from gambling taxes. Most moderate gamblers would just quit gambling, while the hardcore gamblers will simply start using VPN/proxies and join online casinos that are located overseas. Some online casinos are VPN-friendly, while others are hostile towards VPNs. Perhaps the gamblers could use residential proxies, but KYC remains a problem. Non-KYC casinos might be the only option left for Brazilian gamblers.

Addiction will be there since they still allow casino that will comply to their requirements to operate. They impose ban for those illegal casino that operates in their country. So with these they didn't totally eliminate online gambling on their country and they just want to regulate all of those illegal casino since somehow this could give huge revenue to their country.

Maybe those protection towards addiction is just an excuse, but provably the main intention of those things happen is to get some revenue to online casinos that will comply to the rules they set.

But again for sure, there some ways to continue to participate on this activities and provably some old time gamblers would use some tool to access those online casino and get back to their usual activities.

That huge number of domains likely isn’t all operating in the same country, so only a few would actually bother to comply, especially if they don’t see much benefit in targeting those users. With 200 already proceeding, that seems plenty to meet the needs of gamblers without causing too much hassle for operators who aren’t focused on that market.

This new law doesn’t actually tackle gambling addiction at its root. If they see it as a major issue, they should be looking at a full ban. Instead, they’re just limiting it slightly, yet with 200 operators still in play, addiction remains unsolved. It feels more like they’re focused on boosting tax revenue than truly addressing the addiction problem.