The most annoying thing is undoubtedly the fact that you cannot see how much money you can bet with a bookmaker. And that is exactly what you want. Bookmakers used to have completely different layouts, then you could immediately see what the maximum bet was with a bet, now you first have to make a bet and then it will be considered how much you can bet. There are even bookmakers who have built in a delay, which allows them to decide for themselves for a few minutes whether they want to retroactively accept the bet placed or not. You might think this is very unfair?
That is definitely a problem, in the society of today people are used to get what they want almost immediately and any delay can be very exasperating for them, so when a gambler makes a sport bet they want the bet to be accepted immediately so they can move on and keep enjoying the game, however if you have to wait for a few minutes for this to be the case not only you are missing valuable minutes of your favorite sport, but your bet could be rejected during the process as well making you to waste even more time. 
Topic: Rejecting odd provider's limit (Read 734 times)
The most annoying thing is undoubtedly the fact that you cannot see how much money you can bet with a bookmaker. And that is exactly what you want. Bookmakers used to have completely different layouts, then you could immediately see what the maximum bet was with a bet, now you first have to make a bet and then it will be considered how much you can bet. There are even bookmakers who have built in a delay, which allows them to decide for themselves for a few minutes whether they want to retroactively accept the bet placed or not. You might think this is very unfair?
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Those are good measures that you can take, however this assumes that those systems work as intended and I have seen a lot of complains about this not being the case, some casinos can still send you promotional emails even if you unsubscribe from their list, this could be a mistake or it could be done on purpose but it happens, and self-exclusion is also a hit and miss feature in some casinos, so it is important to always be in complete control of our gambling or overcoming an addiction to it will be very challenging.I personally think if such things happen, it's a mistake. Casinos have enough customers who are not gambling addicted, and they, casinos, are not so greedy and evil to be taking advantage of sick people sending them promotional emails to lure them into gambling. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that there are no greedy and evil people in the world. There are many of them, and, of course, some of them own casinos. I'm just trying to explain that those evil cases are exceptions rather than the rules.
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Those are good measures that you can take, however this assumes that those systems work as intended and I have seen a lot of complains about this not being the case, some casinos can still send you promotional emails even if you unsubscribe from their list, this could be a mistake or it could be done on purpose but it happens, and self-exclusion is also a hit and miss feature in some casinos, so it is important to always be in complete control of our gambling or overcoming an addiction to it will be very challenging.I personally think if such things happen, it's a mistake. Casinos have enough customers who are not gambling addicted, and they, casinos, are not so greedy and evil to be taking advantage of sick people sending them promotional emails to lure them into gambling. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that there are no greedy and evil people in the world. There are many of them, and, of course, some of them own casinos. I'm just trying to explain that those evil cases are exceptions rather than the rules.
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.
My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
I'm going to get to the point, you ask a specific, direct question, and as I read, a month has already passed, you forgot us, no!, so, I ask you:
Are you interested in cheating?
The best first bet that can be made in a casino is honesty, looking for dishonest "ways" is not a good "way".
Or are you just curious...
Greetings, ah!, you do KYC to your thread. Ty!
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.
My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
Sure, you can "circumvent" the protections that casinos and bookmakers put in place, but you're doing it with the intent to defraud a company which could lead to criminal prosecution. Like it or not, these companies are operating a certain business mode that mean most people lose money, those people are not forced to deposit money - they do so of their own free will and lose it on that same basis. They generally agree to the rules of using these sites, because they're holding out hope that they are the one in a (hundred) million player who might win big. If you don't want to follow the rules of the game, play a lottery instead because you probably have the same chance of winning big in the long run without trying to commit fraud with such actions.
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.
My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
Frankly, I wouldn't recommend you to mess with this. Casinos may use various methods to identify and track users, such as IP address, device ID, and payment information, in addition to email address. So, using different email addresses to register with multiple casinos can get you into trouble (account termination, loss of funds etc).
This is true, trying to curcumwent restricitons is risky. And not only because your account can be frozen, but also because maybe you shouldn't gamble in the first place?
I would contact support, and asked them why was I restricted instead of trying to circumvent the restriction. It is very likely that your knowledge of tracking is inferior to that of their technicians, so, if are not one of those tech savvy guys from Mission Impossible, don't try to beat them on that field.
Another good reason to have an email dedicated just for your gambling activities is that at some point gamblers may decide they want to take a break or to stop gambling completely, and if you are using your personal email then you cannot simply stop using it and you will keep receiving offers tempting you to play, and while this is not a problem for those like us which are in complete control of our gambling, it can be very problematic for those which are going through a gambling addiction.
Don't forget that there is a feature called self-exclusion on many gambling sites right now which could help the person to distance themselves in gambling for a while or permanently but in order to be sure that you won't receive any mails from a gambling website, you can uncheck the "stop receiving promotional mails" in your account settings. Most gambling sites that I visited so far have this.Another one would be to mark the existing email on your mailbox as spam and then hit that mute button as well. All these may only be a temporary remedy because there are still ways for an addicted gambler to play gambling again. Seeking professional help offline will still be the best option IMO.
It is common for people to get a limit on their account. Gambling sites also prefer not to do business with people who win a lot of money. That means they have to pay out a lot of money. This often goes hand in hand with the KYC. I always wonder why they give you low limits. Players who win a lot and bet big, don't they automatically lose? That seems to me to be an ideal time for gambling sites not to lower the limits. At least, if we keep to the theory that players will always lose in the long run. But if they keep winning then you have a problem and as a gambling site you can lose a lot of money.
It is not really a common thing for people to get limits on their accounts for only winning something big. Casinos don't go bankrupt just because a few players win since there are thousands more who are losing at the same time, so this thing doesn't really bother them. Unless, the person who is winning is using an unethical way of winning like cheating or using some kind of script or something.If that's the case, the providers or the platform is in no way wrong for asking for KYC or limiting the accounts and asking for some verification etc. They have all the rights to do so since they are transparent and they expect the same from their players in return.
Although most of the times, for those people who often win especially huge amounts consecutively, the casinos tend to somehow put a limit and lower the odds of winning of the account over time. I've seen many players rant about this here in forum. Some find it unfair, while some just don't care that much. It's not really always putting a limit such as freezing their accounts, rather lowering the rtp odds of the account itself so that there would be lesser chance of winning on the side of the gambler for a certain period of time since he already maximized the winnings previously.
But I'm not quite sure for how long the casino hold back the odds for an account with frequent winning. Perhaps this differs from their tos and policies, so one must really read before agreeing because everything is already written, some are just too lazy to read which is why when they encounter something unusual, they complain right away.
It is common for people to get a limit on their account. Gambling sites also prefer not to do business with people who win a lot of money. That means they have to pay out a lot of money. This often goes hand in hand with the KYC. I always wonder why they give you low limits. Players who win a lot and bet big, don't they automatically lose? That seems to me to be an ideal time for gambling sites not to lower the limits. At least, if we keep to the theory that players will always lose in the long run. But if they keep winning then you have a problem and as a gambling site you can lose a lot of money.
It is not really a common thing for people to get limits on their accounts for only winning something big. Casinos don't go bankrupt just because a few players win since there are thousands more who are losing at the same time, so this thing doesn't really bother them. Unless, the person who is winning is using an unethical way of winning like cheating or using some kind of script or something.If that's the case, the providers or the platform is in no way wrong for asking for KYC or limiting the accounts and asking for some verification etc. They have all the rights to do so since they are transparent and they expect the same from their players in return.
They can do all the contingencies they want to subvert these odd abusers and account spammers but they will just keep popping up. KYC is a good measure but nowadays it's getting easier and easier to falsify documents and therefore be able to use them for something like gambling. There's also the fact that some use some sort of tracking that read's a player's/gambler's pattern and compares it to an account they suspect of abusing these advantages, but it could only go so far, especially if the tracking system could be overloaded with data, which some could be AFAIK.
In any case, in this battle against odd provider vs the gambler, the gambler will always win, might as well carry on with their day to day as usual instead of picking a needless fight.
Abusers can easily be restricted through KYC if casinos that better measures for their KYC application than only asking for documents. If they ask for a selfie with the documents or a short video of the person holding the document, that would definitely limit abuses of multiple account creation.In any case, in this battle against odd provider vs the gambler, the gambler will always win, might as well carry on with their day to day as usual instead of picking a needless fight.
I'm not sure how they identify the abusers that copy the patterns of other gamblers to increase their odds of winning, but if they really have some tracking system for it, then it shouldn't really be difficult once they implement the changes that I mentioned for KYC of all their gamblers.
Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.
My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
I'm going to get to the point, you ask a specific, direct question, and as I read, a month has already passed, you forgot us, no!, so, I ask you:
Are you interested in cheating?
The best first bet that can be made in a casino is honesty, looking for dishonest "ways" is not a good "way".
Or are you just curious...
Greetings, ah!, you do KYC to your thread. Ty!
Another good reason to have an email dedicated just for your gambling activities is that at some point gamblers may decide they want to take a break or to stop gambling completely, and if you are using your personal email then you cannot simply stop using it and you will keep receiving offers tempting you to play, and while this is not a problem for those like us which are in complete control of our gambling, it can be very problematic for those which are going through a gambling addiction.
Don't forget that there is a feature called self-exclusion on many gambling sites right now which could help the person to distance themselves in gambling for a while or permanently but in order to be sure that you won't receive any mails from a gambling website, you can uncheck the "stop receiving promotional mails" in your account settings. Most gambling sites that I visited so far have this.Another one would be to mark the existing email on your mailbox as spam and then hit that mute button as well. All these may only be a temporary remedy because there are still ways for an addicted gambler to play gambling again. Seeking professional help offline will still be the best option IMO.
At least, if we keep to the theory that players will always lose in the long run.
This theory only work on luck based games e.g. slots, dice, etc where you don't have any way to control your bet since the result is completely random. While in sportsbookie you can bet in any event and any option you like, so if you're a professional bettor you might make a lot money in through gambling. As a casino they wouldn't want this and they will limit your bet to prevent them from future losses.In the past, when it was hard to prevent various forms of cheating on the part of gamblers, people that winning "too much" were restricted from this or that casino. Today I don't think it is still a thing. Big online casinos are not afraid of those gamblers, professional poker players or sports bettors, who can win millions. On the contrary, they want to attract such gamblers to their platforms to use the cases of their huge wins for advertising purposes.
It's not uncommon for people to use different email addresses for different purposes, such as personal and work email, or to avoid getting spam in their primary email.
Usually, people like that will not easily give their main email address to anyone.They are better off providing an email address that has nothing to do with their main email address so that if something happens or spam in the email, their main email address won't be full of spam.
We have to care about ourselves when surfing the internet and if we want to register for a website, don't use the main email address.
But a casino won't look into someone's email address to another casino because the casino would rather investigate what happened to someone's account in their database so they can make their decision.
It's not uncommon for people to use different email addresses for different purposes, such as personal and work email, or to avoid getting spam in their primary email.
Usually, people like that will not easily give their main email address to anyone.They are better off providing an email address that has nothing to do with their main email address so that if something happens or spam in the email, their main email address won't be full of spam.
We have to care about ourselves when surfing the internet and if we want to register for a website, don't use the main email address.
But a casino won't look into someone's email address to another casino because the casino would rather investigate what happened to someone's account in their database so they can make their decision.
At least, if we keep to the theory that players will always lose in the long run.
This theory only work on luck based games e.g. slots, dice, etc where you don't have any way to control your bet since the result is completely random. While in sportsbookie you can bet in any event and any option you like, so if you're a professional bettor you might make a lot money in through gambling. As a casino they wouldn't want this and they will limit your bet to prevent them from future losses.
It is common for people to get a limit on their account. Gambling sites also prefer not to do business with people who win a lot of money. That means they have to pay out a lot of money. This often goes hand in hand with the KYC. I always wonder why they give you low limits. Players who win a lot and bet big, don't they automatically lose? That seems to me to be an ideal time for gambling sites not to lower the limits. At least, if we keep to the theory that players will always lose in the long run. But if they keep winning then you have a problem and as a gambling site you can lose a lot of money.
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If the casinos want to beat this they will just add a video call to the KYC procedure. Yes, it will take much more time as well as casino resources, but this approach can reduce the number of fake accounts in casinos. I don't really think it bothers the casino much because every potential casino player is a potential revenue stream for the casino owner.
They can do all the contingencies they want to subvert these odd abusers and account spammers but they will just keep popping up. KYC is a good measure but nowadays it's getting easier and easier to falsify documents and therefore be able to use them for something like gambling. There's also the fact that some use some sort of tracking that read's a player's/gambler's pattern and compares it to an account they suspect of abusing these advantages, but it could only go so far, especially if the tracking system could be overloaded with data, which some could be AFAIK.
In any case, in this battle against odd provider vs the gambler, the gambler will always win, might as well carry on with their day to day as usual instead of picking a needless fight.
In any case, in this battle against odd provider vs the gambler, the gambler will always win, might as well carry on with their day to day as usual instead of picking a needless fight.
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