Rejecting odd provider's limit - page 3.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 19, 2023, 07:38:20 PM

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

Let's say a user who gambles sets a different email, cellphone number, identity, at a different casino, I don't think that's one of the reasons for the casino to limit and block these users.

I think some casinos don't care about email, kyc and so on, they limit users because the casino detects that the user is doing multi-accounts, they track from the IP of the user itself.

IP is unavoidable, sometimes some users who gamble use different browsers, Chrome to register at the same casino, multiple betting destinations, with different accounts, maybe some casinos don't care about that if the user loses, if you win a big bet, problems arise, blocks, limits and so on, I think that's a problem we often see here.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 19, 2023, 07:38:20 PM

Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

I don’t think, the casinos follow this method to track these shady activities of the players. I mean no casino will share their gamblers details to the other crypto casinos or bookies. But now the question comes, how does these casinos limit the user’s account. The casinos I guess track the user’s profile and when they win more and that too on low budget matches, then they force limit the user’s account. Moreover creating alternate emails are very easy and using this to track the cheaters are very hard.

This method may not work so I think there are other methods that they use. When it comes to sharing details, we don't know but maybe some of them already committed it? Same to other company or social media sites who also share or sell details to the other company without the consent of their users. Casinos can do what they want including monitoring each of their players' activity.

It is required so that they will spot if some of them are doing something shady and is against the casino rules. They will then do some actions. It's only weird or kinda inappropriate when a casino restricts our account for winning too much when the wins are also fair.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 19, 2023, 07:38:20 PM

Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

I don’t think, the casinos follow this method to track these shady activities of the players. I mean no casino will share their gamblers details to the other crypto casinos or bookies. But now the question comes, how does these casinos limit the user’s account. The casinos I guess track the user’s profile and when they win more and that too on low budget matches, then they force limit the user’s account. Moreover creating alternate emails are very easy and using this to track the cheaters are very hard.

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It's not uncommon for people to use different email addresses for different purposes, such as personal and work email, or to avoid getting spam in their primary email.

Usually, people like that will not easily give their main email address to anyone.
They are better off providing an email address that has nothing to do with their main email address so that if something happens or spam in the email, their main email address won't be full of spam.
We have to care about ourselves when surfing the internet and if we want to register for a website, don't use the main email address.
But a casino won't look into someone's email address to another casino because the casino would rather investigate what happened to someone's account in their database so they can make their decision.

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No KYC is not a full guarantee to stay off the radar of account limitations, this is because casinos, both KYC and none KYC all have security teams that check the activities of players in their casinos, this is a standard practice to check abusers.
-And if a player is found to have abused and violated any of the casino's rules their accounts can still be limited and means of the investigation will be implemented, that is why the casino suddenly asks players for some form of verification at some point.
-The use of a VPN can give you access to restricted sites but does not secure the account from being limited at any point of account to violate any terms of service.

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Quote from: Darker45 on February 07, 2023, 07:16:40 PM

What do you mean limiting user accounts? Limiting their bets? I mean, maximum bets? I have read of a similar complaint or two but it is usually triggered by the user making a big win, probably one after another. Worse, the prize would not even be released because the bets made were already beyond the maximum. However, it's shady since the bet was allowed in the first place.

I've got the same question, it was not specified in the OP. There are a lot of types of limitation and restrictions of the user account. Maybe it could be base on the area the user is located or some red flags. Or it could also be for some newly created accounts and the online casino implemented some "compulsive gambling" control, so they put a limit on the account. Not sure about it though.

Quote from: Darker45 on February 07, 2023, 07:16:40 PM

I doubt the tracking done by casinos would involve tracking their email address across multiple casinos. And I think it could indeed be circumvented by using a throw-away email. The problem is when they're also tracking IP information and share this with other casinos.

Sharing info with other casinos sounds illegal, but could also be useful for them to identify abusive accounts.

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Quote from: serveria.com on February 13, 2023, 02:32:05 PM

Frankly, I wouldn't recommend you to mess with this. Casinos may use various methods to identify and track users, such as IP address, device ID, and payment information, in addition to email address. So, using different email addresses to register with multiple casinos can get you into trouble (account termination, loss of funds etc).

It would be trouble if the @OP is using different email addresses to register on the same casino because he broke the multiple accounts rule. A casino one to another may share an information about the gambler, but sometime they're not. As long as you're not using different email address in order to create fake personal information, it should be fine. You have no way to lie when they ask your KYC, because your funds will get confiscated if you use fake KYC.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 19, 2023, 07:38:20 PM

Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

I don't think they can track or access data from other casino as that would violate the T&C of those casinos as they are not allowed to share data of their players to other people. Maybe they are keeping an eye to the account and limit the user if they saw it winning than usual, I think some of the casino do this if the player is too good and always winning some of them are really limiting the account in order to control the winning of the player. Regarding KYC, that might be different issue and they can implement it anytime as per their T&C.

I don't think changing email would be much of a help, if they can track you with email I think they might even track your IP so even if you change your email, you still have same IP.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 19, 2023, 07:38:20 PM

Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

Probably yes, but this can only work if casinos don't share user data between themselves, by user data, I mean like they trying to match IP addresses, except the gambler will resort to using VPN, which like I know, is highly frowned at by many reputable casinos.
And again, aside using a new email address every time we sign up on a new casino, I think it is also very important to use different usernames as well, many gamblers use the same usernames for every casinos they register on, and some also make the extreme mistake of using the same password as well, if we all are avoiding revealing our identities to casinos by not willing to submit our KYC documents, then we must learn to start minding this things as well.

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I might get in trouble then because I always have some variance in the email I use depending on the device Im sat at and so on. If I dont know the place I probably wont give a standard email, I'll give an email I dont read or need to read often because I dont want a regular account to be swamped. I thought alot of people did this, if I use a site alot its very likely allocated towards my most common email address but only after I like it.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 19, 2023, 07:38:20 PM

Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

Frankly, I wouldn't recommend you to mess with this. Casinos may use various methods to identify and track users, such as IP address, device ID, and payment information, in addition to email address. So, using different email addresses to register with multiple casinos can get you into trouble (account termination, loss of funds etc).

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Quote from: libert19 on January 19, 2023, 07:38:20 PM

Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

I would assume that triggers span a lot further than just email address. IP address would definitely be a factor too. Possibly even browser and device information. If you want to avoid tracking you will need a lot more than a unique email address (that is a start though). One relatively easy method I would recommend would be using a VPS instance/RDP per account. There are ways you can also do it without a VPS, this takes a lot more effort though and is probably less fool-proof than a rented remote desktop.

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Quote from: Strongkored on January 19, 2023, 10:01:58 PM

I doubt bookmakers do it this way, because bookies would not easily or even be able to disclose their user data to their business rivals unless they are sister sites.
The way gambling sites work to be able to catch a suspicious account is more complicated than we think, only by using a different email the gambling site can find other oddities because surely they have many benchmarks before concluding that the user will be hit by a limit.

That's right, I think using an email is not a good thing to do because as much as many email addresses he will create still if he is living in a same roof with same internet connection his IP will be the same. Online casino can banned someone from accessing their website using their IP, but based on cyber crime law they should not disclose any info or data of a certain person. But who knows maybe somehow these casinos can tip each and everyone that a certain player is cheating or abusing some bugs of their website.

It’s possible that casinos have also their way of connection since they are in the same line of business, so if you are blacklisted in the other casino due to your unethical behavior, then it may be possible that you will be investigated too in the new casino you are going to register. Most especially if these casinos are affiliated with each other, then the more that you will be caught personally. However, in case if you provide different KYC details to different casinos, but you are using the same IP address, then you will still be question for that. Also, seeing you play with the same patterns, then you will be subject for investigation for sure.

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We can't be sure of it. Absolutely. Besides, gamblers always can find ways to circumvent these restrictions, but the harder to do it, the better for them gambling addicts. If they are restricted to the most reliable gambling platforms, they can go to less reliable ones, but they know the risks, so, some of them stop gambling for that reason.

Overall, it's a good thing that providers are required to limit people who are sick and need professional help. It saves many lives, I'm sure.

If they would limit them, they should also let them know the reason why the are being restricted. The providers must provide an acceptable reason so gamblers would know their mistakes. I agree that gambling addicts will always find ways to gamble. If they are being traced and restricted, they will try even the riskiest casinos to fulfill their urge to gamble. However, it will still be a big help for them to be restricted so they will be aware and would have enough time to realize that they need to seek professional help already.

But, as I said, they know the risks. Contrary to popular belief, gambling addicts are not stupid, nor all of them are uneducated. Some of them can be mathematicians even. I personally knew a guy who was teaching probabilities, and was addicted to PvP poker at the same time. And although he was addicted to the game, he would never go to a shady casino to fulfill his urge, because he wanted to play poker, not to just throw his money away.

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Quote from: ralle14 on January 19, 2023, 08:28:26 PM

It's hard to say because I think regardless of having accounts between different casinos you can still get limited by the odds providers if you're a winning player since that's one of the main reasons why they limit users.

It's only a matter of time before the user would get caught again though since I remember reading an old post where gambling sites would sometimes help each other and provide information to stop abusers.

I find it hard to believe that the gambling sites will just easily give information to other websites most especially it those sites are their rival to begin with. It is perhaps possible if the gambling website is sister casino of another website. However, if they told their users that the data will solely for the casino themself, then they shouldn't try to breach it unless they want to be filed by a case for selling data information to third party applications or websites.

I guess casinos are monitoring using the email address yes, so you might want to change that if you want to join and make various casino accounts in different sites, the IP address as well which they can check to pinpoint who's who, and unfortunately you can hardly do anything about this without the usage of vpn, which is not allowed in most gambling websites.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 19, 2023, 07:38:20 PM

Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

Yes, because I think the use of a new Gmail address, is a sign of a totally different identity, of which I don't think it will be possible to know which accounts belong to a particular individual, even thou he/she uses the same gambling pattern, as there is always a possibility of someone out there doing the same. And secondly, I doubt if there is any avenue whereby casino "A" could have access to the gambler's details on casino "B", that's only if those casinos aren't cross-related or owned by the same individual/company. So in summary, I will like to say you can circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos on a new device "i.e I.P address"

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Quote from: Johnyz on February 07, 2023, 04:15:02 PM

Quote from: libert19 on January 19, 2023, 07:38:20 PM

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

How they can track it? Not unless the casinos are sharing their data of the gamblers which I think is not possible. But if you think you are being tracked, the you can always use a different emails for different gambling sites, just make sure you have the records. Some site limits the gamblers because of unusual activities and will ask for a KYC, but if you can prove that you’re innocent and just doing your gambling activities fine, they will back your account to normal and remove the red flag.

Most gamblers asked to do KYC by the casino complain and reason that they haven't made a single mistake that could get them in trouble. But in reality, this is not the case because the casino must have evidence that makes the casino suspect they are cheating when playing gambling.

And the casino doesn't need to trace to other casinos to find out the habits of the cheaters because the cheaters will surely do the same in other casinos and the casino itself. The pattern of the cheaters will always be the same so experienced casinos can recognize them well and immediately block their accounts.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 19, 2023, 07:38:20 PM

Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

In such a competitive business environment like gambling it's difficult to believe that gambling sites would wanna give a disclosure of information of their customer's to rival competitors in same business except for mutual interest benefits that arises between them in a situation where the user's account is under suspicion of an act that's perceived as a threat to their policy or an unfair play is sets in in same pattern over time amongst such user's account which might probably necessitate such limitations as way of checkmating.

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Its hard for us, regular users to assess what exactly casinos do to limit people's accounts. There are various ways considering we are living in technology of 2023. KYC is not hand of midas that turns everything into gold. Some users try to exploit advantageous odds given, or just bonuses given. I would say so, yeah you may try your best to avoid many imposed rules to you. But its most likely better to compromise. Eventually they will find a way to block it.

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What do you mean limiting user accounts? Limiting their bets? I mean, maximum bets? I have read of a similar complaint or two but it is usually triggered by the user making a big win, probably one after another. Worse, the prize would not even be released because the bets made were already beyond the maximum. However, it's shady since the bet was allowed in the first place.

I doubt the tracking done by casinos would involve tracking their email address across multiple casinos. And I think it could indeed be circumvented by using a throw-away email. The problem is when they're also tracking IP information and share this with other casinos.

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