Rejecting odd provider's limit - page 6.

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Quote from: slapper on January 19, 2023, 11:20:03 PM

it's definitely possible to circumvent account limitations by using different emails on different casinos, but it's not a foolproof solution. Some online casinos might also track users by IP address or other identifying information, so it's not a guarantee that you'll be able to continue gambling without any restrictions. Try to find and use other casinos.

Faking IP or using Tor can be a good alternative way but it can limit the speed and the experience while playing the casinos. VPN was my choice when my country prohibit many gambling websites but the connection speed was totally terrible. I guess it might be because I use free VPN services so that the server was always overload

That's why we should choose on-KYC or blockchain casinos because they offer full anonymity and allow us to fully enjoy the experience without any limitations. In the next few years we will see more and more blockchain-based casinos where people can join or leave without providing any additional information

Online platform operators knows that email address can be replaced easily and there are tons of disposable email service that we can use without creating Gmail and Yahoo mails. Even if we use them our success rate of playing on the same betting site can be slim if it was against their rules. Like you said, they still can see our IP address.

We can use a VPN to change our IP address but then they have other indicators to know if the user has already signed up before on their platform. To avoid problems or bad karma, it would be better if we can just play fairly. if we are restricted on one betting site then why not find another? There are plenty of fishes in the sea.

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They can tracked those created accounts with the use of the IP address and the Device IP address so its easily to them to know if there's someone might abuse the current system of the gambling casino that's why they asking for the KYC for preventing this kind of abuse of the current events, promos and etc. You don't need to worry if in your IP address has a different account with different users but for sure some of you don't want to make a KYC to prevent leaking of information still it depends on the situation if the casino allowing the use of multiple accounts.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 19, 2023, 08:38:20 PM

Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

That's not a good idea as your IP might still be traced, which will result in you making a violation gambling with different accounts in one platform. The best thing to do is just to gamble on different gambling sites, that way you'll be safe and you can sleep well at night.

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I don't think that they'll ever track you with that. Most casinos don't share their information from the other casinos because it's a rival thing that's rare and hard to see happen.

But if it's the same casino that you're thinking of doing that then I guess that's where the problem will appear. As for the situation you've said, you're going to do it with different casino, I see it no problem.

It's like you're registering for Facebook and next is Google and so on, so I don't see any reason why they'll have time to track you with such unless as they've said, you've been winning big against them.

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This doesn’t make sense to me because why would another company have a piece of information about a specific individual that is just plain normal or just your average player? Unless someone is blacklisted unless, it is blacklisted anywhere. Then possibly, they have a blocked list of users that probably automatically trigger, notify the company, and then start from there.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 19, 2023, 08:38:20 PM

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Personally, I think the casino security system is much more complicated. Users are constantly improving their privacy skills, which means casinos have to constantly improve their security systems. Checking registration by mail among other casinos is not any kind of protection. It seems to me that the security system can get not only your IP address but also information about the device you are logging in with and a browser's fingerprint. In that case even if you use different e-mails when registering and fake KYC documents you will be found out quickly.

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It might work. Different mail, different bookies. It's your information that will be passed down and not the e-mail itself but I doubt they have connections yet. I am sure they won't make efforts to pass it along to other gambling sites.
Regarding IP address, there's always a way to work around it so that you can change your position. I have not experienced such a thing as being limited yet but if I do, there must be a way to fix it by contacting their customer support so you could stay in just one bookie.
Maybe, work your way to a higher VIP level so the limits will be erased or they could widen it so you won't have any problems on your next bets.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 19, 2023, 08:38:20 PM

Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

They are tracking using KYC, IP address, email address and other details, not just email since they can easily spot all the multiple accounts or arbitrage bets on the different casinos. I believe this is the reason too why the casino always asks KYC whenever the account encounters a problem to verify the red flag given by the bookmaker. There's no way to avoid it if you are an individual or group since they are tracing betting patterns aside from all the info I mention before to connect you with other accounts.

Bookmaker is always making sure that no one can get a consistent profit against them regardless if you are playing normally as long as you are winning too often.

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Quote from: Daltonik on January 20, 2023, 06:00:55 AM

I am not familiar with the fact that someone was blocked just because they had accounts in different casinos linked by one email, perhaps it meant that the player was already blocked in some of the online casinos before he was blocked in the next one. In this case, it is possible to assume that online casinos share information about unscrupulous players among themselves,

If you see a user that is blocked from a gambling site, gambling sites do have similar rules on their terms and conditions, the user will likely make the same mistakes he made in one gambling site on another gambling site and he will be blocked too, not because they link the accounts.

In this case, bookmakers that are limiting odds of some users do that because they have professionals that look into individual accounts and know what will not pay their gambling site and not offering some users that or limiting the amount of money that can be used for it.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 19, 2023, 08:38:20 PM

Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

this issue of limiting the account, from what I understand some casinos have done this when the user is under suspicion of having committed some infraction that is allowing him to win constantly, when the casino detects some kind of suspicious behavior such as a player who bets 100$ and in a game with odds of @3.40 and win, then bet 300$ again in a game with odds of @4.50 and win, then take the 400$ and bet on a game where the odds are also high, something like @3.50 and win 1200 $ in this case, the casino will start to suspect that the frequency of victories of that player is not normal, mainly because he is betting on games where the odds are very high

Quote from: libert19 on January 19, 2023, 08:38:20 PM

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

fact is one: all casinos will eventually ask for KYC, so all people need to create accounts with true information, so that means that if you have 3 accounts in different casinos then in those casinos you have your real IP, your real name, your real location, if 1 of these casinos suspects that you have been cheating they send the game provider to investigate and the game provider is also the same provider of the 3 casinos, you can already imagine that it will not be difficult for the game provider to know a lot about you and the casino limits you

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I am not familiar with the fact that someone was blocked just because they had accounts in different casinos linked by one email, perhaps it meant that the player was already blocked in some of the online casinos before he was blocked in the next one. In this case, it is possible to assume that online casinos share information about unscrupulous players among themselves,

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Quote from: libert19 on January 19, 2023, 08:38:20 PM

Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

It's the job of the casino to monitor each and every account on their system. And as far as a I know, they have a fraud department who flag down accounts. And if they find something suspicious, then they are going to require that account to undergo KYC.

Quote from: libert19 on January 19, 2023, 08:38:20 PM

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

There is no stopping you from using different emails when registering, casino's are not going to look at your email. It's how you play your account, your history and such that will require them to ask for mandatory KYC. They are looking like game arbitrage or anything that they think you are exploiting their system.

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Don't they limit users based on the amount they won instead? Though I don't doubt they have some limits that happened due to multi-accounting, even then, those'd be extreme cases where they somehow bypassed a rule that they had, basically doing a ban instead of a limit. I don't think emails are enough to bypass, maybe a VPN at least? Though if you get discovered that's a one-way ticket to being banned. They surely must have IP's stored, maybe they have another checklist for info first, then if everything gets a tick, they then start saving your IP to monitor you and possible multi accounts.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 19, 2023, 08:38:20 PM

Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

Definitely you can achieve doing it but it may not last because they will definitely fish you out, they have their security network with expert's that monitors user's abuse on their system, I've seen so many tricks some gamblers developed not to get tracked by using a different email, new device and also by clearing all their cookies from the gambling site and so on but that is not good enough to stay secured without being caught, with time they got everything discovered and you got busted fron their casino.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 19, 2023, 08:38:20 PM

Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

Not sure how can they track users account across multiple casinos? You mean this casino's are talking with each other? I doubt that is the case. For KYC, it has been deemed that sooner or later all casinos are going to ask for it.

Quote from: libert19 on January 19, 2023, 08:38:20 PM

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

Again, it boils down to your argument that casinos are colluding with each other and monitoring user accounts and email.

But you can obviously used different emails with different casinos, and I doubt that it will stop them from asking you KYC.

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Quote from: Strongkored on January 19, 2023, 11:01:58 PM

I doubt bookmakers do it this way, because bookies would not easily or even be able to disclose their user data to their business rivals unless they are sister sites.
The way gambling sites work to be able to catch a suspicious account is more complicated than we think, only by using a different email the gambling site can find other oddities because surely they have many benchmarks before concluding that the user will be hit by a limit.

Doesn't every casino site already have a management team that is quite good and reliable in their field?
Because the team is also responsible for running and all security on the casino site.
It may be difficult for us to be able to solve the problem but it is easy for the casinos to solve it.
Casino is a gambling business that can generate large amounts of profit so it's easy to be able to hire someone who is skilled in the field, especially in the field of hacking.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 19, 2023, 08:38:20 PM

Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

How come? You information only remains to the sites that you registered, but some regulations in few countries which they are proposing to regulate gambling can make this to be possible in the future. You can use different emails on gambling sites, but what about the KYC? That is enough to reveal you, and most casinos today require KYC.

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Quote from: slapper on January 19, 2023, 11:20:03 PM

Faking IP or using Tor can be a good alternative way but it can limit the speed and the experience while playing the casinos. VPN was my choice when my country prohibit many gambling websites but the connection speed was totally terrible. I guess it might be because I use free VPN services so that the server was always overload

That's why we should choose on-KYC or blockchain casinos because they offer full anonymity and allow us to fully enjoy the experience without any limitations. In the next few years we will see more and more blockchain-based casinos where people can join or leave without providing any additional information

It's not possible to access a casino via Tor because they don't have onion site and I believe any licensed casino aren't allowed to create onion site since they're combat against money laundering.

on KYC casino? KYC = kill your anonymity, I don't understand what you're trying to say.

Nah, every years any countries just tightening their rules, just like how Binance now ask everyone KYC in order to use their exchange. I expect next few years casino will become KYC casino, not zero KYC casino.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 19, 2023, 08:38:20 PM

Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

it's definitely possible to circumvent account limitations by using different emails on different casinos, but it's not a foolproof solution. Some online casinos might also track users by IP address or other identifying information, so it's not a guarantee that you'll be able to continue gambling without any restrictions. Try to find and use other casinos.

Faking IP or using Tor can be a good alternative way but it can limit the speed and the experience while playing the casinos. VPN was my choice when my country prohibit many gambling websites but the connection speed was totally terrible. I guess it might be because I use free VPN services so that the server was always overload

That's why we should choose on-KYC or blockchain casinos because they offer full anonymity and allow us to fully enjoy the experience without any limitations. In the next few years we will see more and more blockchain-based casinos where people can join or leave without providing any additional information

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I doubt bookmakers do it this way, because bookies would not easily or even be able to disclose their user data to their business rivals unless they are sister sites.
The way gambling sites work to be able to catch a suspicious account is more complicated than we think, only by using a different email the gambling site can find other oddities because surely they have many benchmarks before concluding that the user will be hit by a limit.

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