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newbie
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June 12, 2019, 01:15:21 PM
You are missing that those are replies to users. And replies on the Topic when everyone is allowed to post since it's a free Forum.
Bumping / Updating per 24 hours are considered for OPs and not users. Since i am not the owner* and i can free speech my own opinion on the Topic those are considered normal replies.

Hey Symphonized, none of this would be an issue if you provided a source for the rule that you have stated.
Just shut up your mouth both stevestake and Symphonized just do your job!  All DT saying here is all true and have strong evidence against to your campaign! 🖕
legendary
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June 12, 2019, 01:13:39 PM
Then nobody should reply more than once on a topic. Even if it is a non company user Smiley
Both you the global mod saying that if we are company users we should not make these sort of bumps, so that means if i am not a company user i am allowed after some other user posts something?

Check normal users replies then and you will be stunned of so many users Primedice and Stake provide such informations without being company users. Then following that all replies should be removed.

I have no idea what you're babbling about. User "Symphonized" posted twice in a row within 24h in the same thread. There are no other posts in between. User "Symphonized" should have edited their last post instead. It's as simple as that.
legendary
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June 12, 2019, 01:12:08 PM
You are missing that those are replies to users. And replies on the Topic when everyone is allowed to post since it's a free Forum.
Bumping / Updating per 24 hours are considered for OPs and not users. Since i am not the owner* and i can free speech my own opinion on the Topic those are considered normal replies.

Hey Symphonized, none of this would be an issue if you provided a source for the rule that you have stated.
member
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Primedice.com & Stake.com
June 12, 2019, 01:06:47 PM
I have to post twice a day if there informations to provide to users, don't make my statements your own words for your accusations

You have to follow the rules first and foremost. I just reported this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/primedicecom-since-2013-longest-running-crypto-casino-113-btc-jackpot-208986

Clearly a multi-bump within 24h and clearly shows you're lying that you're just replying to other users etc.

If your employers are requiring you to break the rules then perhaps mods should consider a tempban and/or locking the threads since this spam is starting to seem quite intentional and malicious.

Then nobody should reply more than once on a topic. Even if it is a non company user Smiley
Both you the global mod saying that if we are company users we should not make these sort of bumps, so that means if i am not a company user i am allowed after some other user posts something?

Check normal users replies then and you will be stunned of so many users Primedice and Stake provide such informations without being company users. Then following that all replies should be removed.
legendary
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https://bpip.org
June 12, 2019, 12:58:07 PM
I have to post twice a day if there informations to provide to users, don't make my statements your own words for your accusations

You have to follow the rules first and foremost. I just reported this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/primedicecom-since-2013-longest-running-crypto-casino-113-btc-jackpot-208986

Clearly a multi-bump within 24h and clearly shows you're lying that you're just replying to other users etc.

If your employers are requiring you to break the rules then perhaps mods should consider a tempban and/or locking the threads since this spam is starting to seem quite intentional and malicious.
member
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Primedice.com & Stake.com
June 12, 2019, 12:26:47 PM

Someone from Bitcointalk's Staff / Moderators or Global Moderators doing a lousy work deleting my posts on both Primedice and Stake Official topics.
Just because i have my signature as the one from the campaign doesn't mean i am posting for the campaign.

I was also requested by Edward to post twice per day, so if you do not have any sort of knowledge whatsoever on why I am advertising both Primedice and Stake as i am the Official Brand Manager you could just ask or even check Signature's Campaign old sheet where you would see i have 0 post counts and i am not even getting paid for the campaign at first place since i was the one who said Steve to not count them at all.

Video containing all 9 deleted Primedice / Stake's advertising posts just because someone felt like it was considered spam: https://imgur.com/a/nW2EZPU

This has nothing to do with the Stake campaign and I didn't remove them, but you've essentially inadvertently told everyone you're being paid to bump the thread multiple times a day, which is against the rules and that's exactly what someone has reported them for. Threads should only be bumped once per 24 hours and you can't have multiple company members bumping threads as it's seen as bump spam.

By the way those posts were like 1 week ago as who would care on deleting such since they make Bitcointalk forum active?

Someone reported them and a mod acted on them.


I have to post twice a day if there informations to provide to users, don't make my statements your own words for your accusations
Also my deleted messages were essentialy replies and informations after some Users replied so no i wasn't even bumping the topic or updating on the deleted messages Smiley

Or is there any new rule saying we can't reply some specific time multiple times after some other user posted something?

Oh you are saying a company member is not allowed for multiple bumps if it's seen as bump spam? Where is that rule? And no it wasn't even spam you can just check them yourself.
I wonder if you consider quote and replies as spam as you have stated. Those are seriously wrong actions on a forum and we would all be sad to hear it.
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June 12, 2019, 06:50:17 AM
Okay I just want to point out involving merits into a a signature campaign won't work out. All that will do is encourage merit abuse and then everyone will say, "Oh look at that SteveStake now and his merit abuse! This merit abuse is clearly because the wages are too low!"

I tried to involve merit into the campaign in the past and I consider it the biggest failure in the entire campaign. I held a contest and the people who earned the most merit for the week would split a few hundred dollars in prizes. I say it was the biggest failure because I had to kick so many people out for merit abuse and people were breaking rules and begging for merit. Merit is abused heavily already without someone else giving incentive to "earn" it. If I add in merit rules to the contest we can guarantee a SteveStake is encouraging merit abuse thread.

Merits can be a good barometer of consistently good posters, but they shouldn't be something you rely on solely to judge a person and they're useless if you just require x amount because they can easily be gamed or farmed. This whole issue of spam in your campaign could have been prevented just by doing a simple quality control and only allowing decent posters. What you've essentially done is put an advert out for your company that it is hiring people and without a job interview or aptitude test you've given jobs to random people who are not qualified to do the work. Imagine staffing an office this way along with the manager never being there. It would quickly descend into chaos and people being lazy and not doing their job properly, especially when there was no repercussions for doing a shoddy job.

I had a surgery earlier in the year and my surgeon didn't speak great English when we talked. Does this mean I should have dismissed his opinions and looked at him as someone who wasn't credible?

I'm not saying people should be full out responding in other languages. I'm saying a lot of what makes someone considered a "spammer" are grammer errors smaller than the one you were so eager to point out just now.

I'm assuming your surgeon was qualified for surgery. Would you have been ok with some random person performing the surgery who didn't have any appropriate qualifications? I can't speak any other language other than English, but imagine if I go to a non-English speaking message board and try. It would be a disaster and that's what happens here. People who can't speak English very well, if at all, are forcing themselves to do so because there's financial reward. Because of signature campaigns many people even come here who have little to no knowledge or interest in bitcoin. That would be like me joining an Italian forum on Lamborghinis when I can't drive, can't speak Italian and have no interest in Lamborghinis, but if I can get paid to post there then I might try and that's the issue we have here.

At this time, the biggest source of spam in this forum is the campaign in which you are the manager, and after months of doing nothing you ask members of this forum to clear your mess?

That's simply not true. Be a leader not a follower, you only say that because someone else did and if you research yourself you'd know there's a massive spam issue long before this campaign and there will be one long after. I'm not asking anyone to do anything and I'm simply providing a place for people to report any campaign spammer if they choose. People try to do it in random places across the forum already so it only makes sense to provide 1 place for people to post.

Signature spam has always been a problem here but passing off the blame doesn't excuse you from your responsibility. Yobit was the worst campaign this forum had seen for quite some time and they were dealt with by the first forum signature ban because of the mess they were causing. Yours is the worse now they're gone. It's honestly been embarrassing even having a Stake signature and I'm glad my deal expires next week because wearing a Stake sig has become like a badge of shame much like it was with Yobit. Maybe your goal was achieved as Stake have certainly got their name out there in the cheapest possible way but they did it in an unsavoury way that left a bad taste in many mouths.

Sure some people made low quality posts but it's the minority of members and people are taking out years of frustration towards Bitcointalk on a single campaign that's not even that old. I feel like the Stake campaign is turning into an antispam awareness movement. I don't mind taking the beating if it leads to a greater outcome in the end.

I would disagree with this and I think you've got it the wrong way around. Most people bearing a Stake sig seemed to be spammers and I saw very few making worthwhile contributions so the quality posters must have been the minority. Maybe there was some and I didn't see them or maybe the spammers just dwarfed the everyone else but the spam coming from this campaign was ridiculous. As a mod I probably see it the most and it wasn't uncommon just to see post after post of lazy generic replies from Stake spammers page after page. Great for Stake as their adverts are everywhere but not so great for everyone else who has to read it.

As I've said multiple times before signature campaigns could actually help to clean up the forum but only if they do their job well and don't pay for spam. If a campaign accepts anyone and everyone then it's going to be abused and become the next Yobit. If campaign managers only accepted worthwhile contributors then spam would clear up overnight, but it won't when campaigns keep having little to no standards.

Someone from Bitcointalk's Staff / Moderators or Global Moderators doing a lousy work deleting my posts on both Primedice and Stake Official topics.
Just because i have my signature as the one from the campaign doesn't mean i am posting for the campaign.

I was also requested by Edward to post twice per day, so if you do not have any sort of knowledge whatsoever on why I am advertising both Primedice and Stake as i am the Official Brand Manager you could just ask or even check Signature's Campaign old sheet where you would see i have 0 post counts and i am not even getting paid for the campaign at first place since i was the one who said Steve to not count them at all.

Video containing all 9 deleted Primedice / Stake's advertising posts just because someone felt like it was considered spam: https://imgur.com/a/nW2EZPU

This has nothing to do with the Stake campaign and I didn't remove them, but you've essentially inadvertently told everyone you're being paid to bump the thread multiple times a day, which is against the rules and that's exactly what someone has reported them for. Threads should only be bumped once per 24 hours and you can't have multiple company members bumping threads as it's seen as bump spam.

By the way those posts were like 1 week ago as who would care on deleting such since they make Bitcointalk forum active?

Someone reported them and a mod acted on them.

We get it you are Chipmixer OP - Therefore you have a reason to strongly suggest the mods to ruin the competition and everything else above all.

I don't see how Chipmixer are competition to Stake. Both are completely different sites and it doesn't matter to Chipmixer whether there are hundreds of other campaigns or not, especially when they pay less than them. The only potential conflict of interest I see here would be if Darkstar was actively gunning for the Stake campaign manager job.
copper member
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June 12, 2019, 04:12:13 AM
Your participants have a median of 3 merit, nearly 40% have zero or 1 merit, and nearly 2/3 have 5 or less merit. There are 51 accounts that posted in your signature campaign thread that are perma banned, and although they all might not have been participating in your campaign when they were banned, I suspect the majority of them probably were.

Are you making this stuff up to try and bait me to count the merits?
If over 80% of the campaign is full member+ how can 40% have 1 merit? I'll give you something more accurate than the median merits of the campaign, the average including Jr/Members

367.94 average merits for a Stake campaign member. It doesn't take much effort to find out your claim is 100% false
My claim is not false. It assumes that everyone who posted an application and is still wearing a stake.com signature is a participant in your signature campaign, which I have every reason to believe considering it appears you have accepted everyone who applied except those with negative trust.

If you had an account when the merit system was implemented, you were grandfathered in and received merit equal to the minimum needed for your then-current rank. My post was referring to the merit that people received subsequent to the implementation of the merit system and excludes any grandfathered merit received.

My numbers were accurate as of this past Sunday when I obtained my data, and are almost certainly still accurate.
I look at your list of 51 banned accounts and I don't even know who majority of them even are. This is completely flawed because you're making your own list of people so your information is false.
These are not random people, nor are they my own list. They are people who have posted in your signature campaign thread and are currently banned. When I have more time, I will cross reference these people against those who actually submitted applications, which I would assume to by the majority of those banned.
Low merits does not mean someone is incapable of a good post either. Are you incapable of being trusted or making a good post because your trust level is so negative?
1 - Not receiving many merits is a good indication the person is not making very many good posts. It is possible that some people who make a lot of good posts may not have merit, however this is not the case with participants in your signature campaign. The amount of merit a person has received is a quick way to objectively measure a person's post quality
2 - You appear to believe having negative trust is a reason why someone is "incapable of being trusted or making a good post" as you do not accept negative trusted people into your signature campaign. Also, I did ask to join your campaign, which you ignored, however if I was participating in your campaign, I would have left because of a) the low pay rates, and b) because I do not want to be associated with the amount of spam your campaign generates

Another thing, I'm fully aware what some of you are doing when you put a Stake signature on and then start trolling without being part of the campaign.

Example: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51190436

There was never a point Souldream was ever in this campaign yet he was wearing the signature getting banned for plagiarism.
That is strange because he applied to your campaign, and I don't see any evidence of you rejecting anyone who applied. Why did you not accept this person?


However the root cause is that you are paying garbage rates

Higher pay rates will only encourage people to post more and lower pay rates encourage people to post less. If we truly want to see spam gone then remove all pay per post features because that will always encourage spam. Once I lowered the pay rates I saw an instant decrease in spam and it worked out well. I suggest other campaign managers stop over paying for posts because your supply of posters far surpasses your demand for them. But sure everyone is going to hate me for saying that even though it's true because so many are making a career out of Bitcointalk
You are ignoring the fact that your low pay rate is not going to attract those who are capable of making coherent posts. You are also ignoring the fact that the majority of people in your campaign have no business getting paid to post.
sr. member
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June 12, 2019, 03:52:34 AM
Mods seem to disagree for some of your posts. (and ironically, you spelt proper incorrectly)

I agree, and I can admit when I'm wrong or make a mistake. It's weird because I have never gotten so many reports of abuse or had posts deleted until I started posting in this thread. I suspect I upset one of the mods because all of a sudden almost every one of my posts is getting flagged. Some of the posts of mine that got deleted even referenced sources - like one referencing Mati Greenspan of eToro. I admit a couple of the posts that got deleted probably deserved it.

Anyway, I may take a break from posting in this forum because this is getting a bit... hot or weird.
legendary
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June 12, 2019, 01:47:22 AM
I might be remembering incorrectly but I believe mods are paid for the number of moderator actions they do or something along those lines. I'll try to find it tomorrow if I don't forget; heading to sleep now.
don't quite remember where it was posted but i believe theymos has said the mods are distributed a small amount from the forum ad auctions according to how many boards they manage / how many reports they handle.
legendary
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June 12, 2019, 01:17:49 AM
Attack ChipMixer's campaign where it hurts, and make sure that ChipMixer is given a signature ban.

Attacking a ChipMixer campaign is like putting your hand in the fire  Wink

PM theymos about how moderators are abusing their permission to try to earn more money by deleting posts without properly checking them.

Do Mod earn by deleting the thread ?  Shocked  That's a new thing for me

Use the forum report system if you feel that way. I don't think mods reveal who is behind what reports, so no one will attack you. You could also make a new alt account if you feel retaliation. Do note that I will happily listen to reports against specific users via PM and will award a small bounty to those who's actions of reporting a user directly leads to them being removed. PM me via an alt if you wish. I'm sorry you feel that way against the campaign, but I don't believe neither ChipMixer or I have 'attacked' anyone for speaking negative things against the campaign. IIRC I haven't left negative trust feedback to those that have spoken against me either, unlike some of the other people you dislike.

I might be remembering incorrectly but I believe mods are paid for the number of moderator actions they do or something along those lines. I'll try to find it tomorrow if I don't forget; heading to sleep now.
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June 12, 2019, 01:08:57 AM
Attack ChipMixer's campaign where it hurts, and make sure that ChipMixer is given a signature ban.

Attacking a ChipMixer campaign is like putting your hand in the fire  Wink

PM theymos about how moderators are abusing their permission to try to earn more money by deleting posts without properly checking them.

Do Mod earn by deleting the posts ?  Shocked  That's a new thing for me
legendary
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June 12, 2019, 01:02:31 AM
No, legitimate discussions are allowed. Symphonized's title is "Official Primedice's / Stake's Brand Manager" so I'm guessing mods count them as updates.

Or someone reported just because of the signature and they just "hell press delete immediatly"

I have about 100 unhandled reports in queue since yesterday. I would say maybe 33% of the users have Stake signatures. If mods are deleting solely based on having a Stake signature, someone should tell them to hurry up and delete that 33%

Someone should also create a thread in Meta and PM theymos about how moderators are abusing their permission to try to earn more money by deleting posts without properly checking them.

Once more, arguing with me about the moderators actions is pointless. Make a thread about the mod abuse that you strongly believe in with the claims that you have the strongest evidence to back up. Still waiting on a source for "the bump rule only applies to the OP of the thread" by the way. If you find it, then I apologise in advance for incorrectly interpreting the forum rules and unintentionally misleading you.
member
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June 12, 2019, 12:56:26 AM
No, legitimate discussions are allowed. Symphonized's title is "Official Primedice's / Stake's Brand Manager" so I'm guessing mods count them as updates.

Or someone reported just because of the signature and they just "hell press delete immediatly"

I would be just glad on the concrete delete reason that's all. I asumed it was due to my signature.

Will still give a PM on theymos to verify what where the reasons about the deletions (if in fact due to being considered as BUMP / UPDATE) or something else.
legendary
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June 12, 2019, 12:52:30 AM
And another thing: If you do think rules should be followed 100% then every campaign should just be erased of the Forum including yours since they incentivate people posting just for the profit which can still be considered as intended SPAM.

If theymos feels that all campaigns create spam, then I would hope that he takes action against all campaigns sooner or later. I would also highly recommend that you begin reporting the posts of ChipMixer campaigners, as you believe they are spamming. Attack ChipMixer's campaign where it hurts, and make sure that ChipMixer is given a signature ban.

Ignoring that, I have a fun fact for you: There's no rules against spam (only ref spam).

PS: I have the obligation to answer everyone and provide such feedback to the users who seek for information on the topic.

Moderators have the obligation to deleted posts that break the rules. There's no point in arguing with me - I strongly encourage you to create a thread in Meta about how moderators are abusing their power in the Stake thread if you believe that they were unfairly deleted.


Does it means that a single person can post in a ANN thread once every 24 hours ? ( Even if he is not a OP, Manager, user with or without any signature)

No, legitimate discussions are allowed. Symphonized's title is "Official Primedice's / Stake's Brand Manager" so I'm guessing mods count them as updates.
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June 12, 2019, 12:49:03 AM
You do really have a way to prove justifying your statements using Bitcointalk's rules, FAQs and everything else don't you?
Where are you seeing me bumping / updating the topic on those deleted messages?

You are missing that those are replies to users. And replies on the Topic when everyone is allowed to post since it's a free Forum.
Bumping / Updating per 24 hours are considered for OPs and not users. Since i am not the owner* and i can free speech my own opinion on the Topic those are considered normal replies.

Just to make sure I'm understanding you correctly: You believe that a site owner can hire a community manager who is then allowed to bump the thread every 5 minutes to ensure it stays at the top? They aren't the OP, so it very clearly[1] does not apply. Also, what so bad about using the forum rules to help enforce forum rules? I feel like you're trying to attach a negative connotation but I'm not seeing how I'm supposed to feel attacked.



Does it means that a single person can post in a ANN thread once every 24 hours ? ( Even if he is not a OP, Manager, user with or without any signature)
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June 12, 2019, 12:47:10 AM
....

Too bad Bitcointalk has so many rules which are not beeing followed 24/7 100% to everyone right?

When the post is deleted it should have a concrete evidence on why it was deleted and not the "other reasons" because now you speculate they were deleted because it was considered a BUMP / UPDATE (to you just because i said i post twice). What a dam coincidence for them to be deleted Yesterday right?

And another thing: If you do think rules should be followed 100% then every campaign should just be erased of the Forum including yours since they incentivate people posting just for the profit which can still be considered as intended SPAM.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forum_spam:
Forum spam consists of posts on Internet forums that contains related or unrelated advertisements, links to malicious websites, trolling and abusive or otherwise unwanted information. Forum spam is usually posted onto message boards by automated spambots or manually with unscrupulous intentions with one idea in mind: to get the spam in front of readers who would not otherwise have anything to do with it intentionally.

So basically yeah you also have spam on everything.

PS: I have the obligation to answer everyone and provide such feedback to the users who seek for information on the topic.
legendary
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June 12, 2019, 12:40:21 AM
You do really have a way to prove justifying your statements using Bitcointalk's rules, FAQs and everything else don't you?
Where are you seeing me bumping / updating the topic on those deleted messages?

You are missing that those are replies to users. And replies on the Topic when everyone is allowed to post since it's a free Forum.
Bumping / Updating per 24 hours are considered for OPs and not users. Since i am not the owner* and i can free speech my own opinion on the Topic those are considered normal replies.

Just to make sure I'm understanding you correctly: You believe that a site owner can hire a community manager who is then allowed to bump the thread every 5 minutes to ensure it stays at the top? They aren't the OP, so it very clearly[1] does not apply. Also, what so bad about using the forum rules to help enforce forum rules? I feel like you're trying to attach a negative connotation but I'm not seeing how I'm supposed to feel attacked.

How many normal users post a reminder that you can find the bet archive? How many normal users call themselves the Stake Brand Manager?

[1] - Source? I can't find anything about this condition but you seem to believe in it to the fullest extent.

So what you are saying is that if someone uses his ALT account to:

- ALT POSTS
- I POST
- ALT POSTS again

Are not considered bumping.

Mods have locked many Altcoin ANNs for this exact scenario. Here is one example.

By the way those posts were like 1 week ago as who would care on deleting such since they make Bitcointalk forum active?

We get it you are Chipmixer OP - Therefore you have a reason to strongly suggest the mods to ruin the competition and everything else above all.

Someone reported them. (not me) Take it up with the mods if you wish. Also, please provide proof that ChipMixer = DarkStar_ rather than making baseless claims. I have no influence over the actions of moderators and simply use the report system as it was intended.

Arguing with me is not going to help. PM theymos directly if you wish to complain about his moderators incorrectly enforcing rules or start a Meta thread about mod abuse.
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June 12, 2019, 12:36:05 AM
I was also requested by Edward to post twice per day

You are very clearly breaking the forum rules:

13. Bumps, "updates" are limited to once per 24 hours.[2]

This isn't related to Stake's spam issue, this is just you choosing not to follow the rules and thus getting posts deleted because of it. Other sites like Betcoin have had posts deleted for the same thing.

You do really look for a way to prove justifying your statements using Bitcointalk's rules, FAQs and everything else don't you?
Where are you seeing me bumping / updating the topic on those deleted messages?

You are missing that those are replies to users. And replies on the Topic when everyone is allowed to post since it's a free Forum.
Bumping / Updating per 24 hours are considered for OPs and not users. Since i am not the owner* and i can free speech my own opinion on the Topic those are considered normal replies.

You can even see others posting other informations.
So what you are saying is that if someone uses his ALT account to:

- ALT POSTS
- I POST
- ALT POSTS again

Are not considered bumping. That's so nice of you to look into deeply into the topic's situation. You do seem worried about justfying Stake's Primedice's actions so much that you have to dig up rules from the forum to justify your statements again.

By the way those posts were like 1 week ago as who would care on deleting such since they make Bitcointalk forum active?

We get it you are Chipmixer OP - Therefore you have a reason to strongly suggest the mods to ruin the competition and everything else above all.
legendary
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June 12, 2019, 12:24:14 AM
I was also requested by Edward to post twice per day

You are very clearly breaking the forum rules:

13. Bumps, "updates" are limited to once per 24 hours.[2]

This isn't related to Stake's spam issue, this is just you choosing not to follow the rules and thus getting posts deleted because of it. Other sites like Betcoin have had posts deleted for the same thing.



I agree that the mentioned post is a spam but that thread contains 186 posts . Now i need your clarification whether  a) Remaining 185 posts are not spammy ones ? (Are all of them are good ones)
b) Or you people focus is only on stake signature posts and close your eyes on other posst with or without signatures.

Its seems the the agenda is to ban the stake campaign or change the manager  ( And not the fight against spam) ?

No, there is plenty of spam there. The whole thread barring the first maybe 3-4 pages should be deleted. Here's my page of reports against someone in the BitVest campaign. Here's a page against someone in the Veil campaign (whatever that is). Maybe 75% of a page against someone in LiveCoin. There is a lot of Stake in my reports as they're spamming the normal Gambling section that I kinda care about but others are being reported as well for the same reason.


I  have been a professional writer and use propper grammar and spelling, and make sure my posts have substance, and I rarely get merit. Right now I am interacting with the thread and am not just posting to post.

Mods seem to disagree for some of your posts. (and ironically, you spelt proper incorrectly)
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