- #1633886 “salsa”, created 2018-01-09 03:04:32 (snapshot of profile, snapshot of post history)
- #1644895 “bitcoinbooster”, created 2018-01-10 02:59:21 (snapshot of profile, snapshot of post history)
- #1644927 “serasara”, created 2018-01-10 03:08:09 (snapshot of profile, snapshot of post history)
Eight out of nine posts by “salsa” are plagiarism. (The ninth is a one-line shitpost praising an allegedly free “transaction accelerator”.) The other two above-listed accounts are almost certainly sockpuppets of the same individual.
I shall now proceed to quote each and every post by all three of these accounts. Yes, it’s that bad.
Table of Contents
- First post by “salsa”
- Second post by “salsa”
- Third post by “salsa”
- Fourth post by “salsa”
- Fifth post by “salsa”
- Sixth post by “salsa”
- Seventh post by “salsa”
- Eighth post by “salsa”; near-simultaneous sockpuppeting plagiarism of same obscure post by “bitcoinbooster” and “serasara”
- Ninth post by “salsa”
For its first post, “salsa” chose a modus operandi of copypasting the OP of the thread, in the same thread. More of this is seen below.
Original, topic OP:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180322011643/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2353448.msg23988064#msg23988064
I see a lot of people pushing for companies like Amazon to accept Bitcoin as a payment option. Have we considered the
implications of these decisions? Let's say we cannot scale to "service" the need for millions of new people who would use
this technology for the first time. What a big embarrassment would it be, if people waited 13 hours for their transactions to
be confirmed. Doing this now will hurt Bitcoin more than any other "bad" thing that has happened to it before.
We need to wait for the perfect scaling solution to address this problem, before Amazon or any other big retailer starts to
accept Bitcoin as a payment option. The Lightning Network might get us close, but it is not a proven technology yet.
Let's hear your thoughts on this?
implications of these decisions? Let's say we cannot scale to "service" the need for millions of new people who would use
this technology for the first time. What a big embarrassment would it be, if people waited 13 hours for their transactions to
be confirmed. Doing this now will hurt Bitcoin more than any other "bad" thing that has happened to it before.
We need to wait for the perfect scaling solution to address this problem, before Amazon or any other big retailer starts to
accept Bitcoin as a payment option. The Lightning Network might get us close, but it is not a proven technology yet.
Let's hear your thoughts on this?
Plagiarized on page 7 of the same thread as the first-ever post by the “salsa” account:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180322011526/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2353448.msg27747879#msg27747879
I see a lot of people pushing for companies like Amazon to accept Bitcoin as a payment option. Have we considered the
implications of these decisions? Let's say we cannot scale to "service" the need for millions of new people who would use
this technology for the first time. What a big embarrassment would it be, if people waited 13 hours for their transactions to
be confirmed. Doing this now will hurt Bitcoin more than any other "bad" thing that has happened to it before.
We need to wait for the perfect scaling solution to address this problem, before Amazon or any other big retailer starts to
accept Bitcoin as a payment option. The Lightning Network might get us close, but it is not a proven technology yet.
implications of these decisions? Let's say we cannot scale to "service" the need for millions of new people who would use
this technology for the first time. What a big embarrassment would it be, if people waited 13 hours for their transactions to
be confirmed. Doing this now will hurt Bitcoin more than any other "bad" thing that has happened to it before.
We need to wait for the perfect scaling solution to address this problem, before Amazon or any other big retailer starts to
accept Bitcoin as a payment option. The Lightning Network might get us close, but it is not a proven technology yet.
“salsa” used the same m.o. for its second post.
Original, topic OP:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180322011958/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133931.msg1426125#msg1426125
In these times of Mass scammers out there, I urge people to use an escrow. There are many good members out there willing to help to secure the bitcoin community, There are also more people willing to do anything to scam you out of your coins, Please just do your research on someone before you part with your hard earned coins.
An escrow list - updated 11/17
Note to mod, I know this is in the wrong section as I am not selling anything, I feel we all need to be wiser, People in the selling forums are less likely to look elsewhere for information on what this is and how it is acheved,
Even if a few people read this and use escrow, Or a few scammers don't get their coins, I will consider this a good job.
Please consider not moveing out the way, This needs to be addressed.
** jan 16
There is a new wave of possible scammers, People who buy up legendary accounts and trade untill they have large sum of money then run, This has been done with a very trusted account recently.
Please be cautious, I am trying to set up a 3 way secure key escrow for my personal escrows to add peace of mind.
I would like to point out, that I do not partake in escrowing forum accounts, I never have and never will, in fact its against the rules on my forum, This is a trust based commodity as it stands, if we keep moving the goal posts as well as the stadium, no one can be accountable for theft!
Keep safe people, dont give up, trust in BTC, suspect people :-)
** April 17
please watch out for fake accounts made to look like hero/legendary escrow accounts, check the join date and the letters of the name exatly! some use numerical 0 instead of alphabetical O, and please watch out for sold accounts! this forum allows selling of any account, so make it difficult to know who's still real, I do not allow selling of accounts on my forum
An escrow list - updated 11/17
Note to mod, I know this is in the wrong section as I am not selling anything, I feel we all need to be wiser, People in the selling forums are less likely to look elsewhere for information on what this is and how it is acheved,
Even if a few people read this and use escrow, Or a few scammers don't get their coins, I will consider this a good job.
Please consider not moveing out the way, This needs to be addressed.
** jan 16
There is a new wave of possible scammers, People who buy up legendary accounts and trade untill they have large sum of money then run, This has been done with a very trusted account recently.
Please be cautious, I am trying to set up a 3 way secure key escrow for my personal escrows to add peace of mind.
I would like to point out, that I do not partake in escrowing forum accounts, I never have and never will, in fact its against the rules on my forum, This is a trust based commodity as it stands, if we keep moving the goal posts as well as the stadium, no one can be accountable for theft!
Keep safe people, dont give up, trust in BTC, suspect people :-)
** April 17
please watch out for fake accounts made to look like hero/legendary escrow accounts, check the join date and the letters of the name exatly! some use numerical 0 instead of alphabetical O, and please watch out for sold accounts! this forum allows selling of any account, so make it difficult to know who's still real, I do not allow selling of accounts on my forum
Plagiarized on page 14 of same thread as the second post by the “salsa” account:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180322012127/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133931.msg27748797#msg27748797
In these times of Mass scammers out there, I urge people to use an escrow. There are many good members out there willing to help to secure the bitcoin community, There are also more people willing to do anything to scam you out of your coins, Please just do your research on someone before you part with your hard earned coins.
An escrow list - updated 11/17
Note to mod, I know this is in the wrong section as I am not selling anything, I feel we all need to be wiser, People in the selling forums are less likely to look elsewhere for information on what this is and how it is acheved,
Even if a few people read this and use escrow, Or a few scammers don't get their coins, I will consider this a good job.
Please consider not moveing out the way, This needs to be addressed.
** jan 16
There is a new wave of possible scammers, People who buy up legendary accounts and trade untill they have large sum of money then run, This has been done with a very trusted account recently.
Please be cautious, I am trying to set up a 3 way secure key escrow for my personal escrows to add peace of mind.
I would like to point out, that I do not partake in escrowing forum accounts, I never have and never will, in fact its against the rules on my forum, This is a trust based commodity as it stands, if we keep moving the goal posts as well as the stadium, no one can be accountable for theft!
Keep safe people, dont give up, trust in BTC, suspect people :-)
** April 17
please watch out for fake accounts made to look like hero/legendary escrow accounts, check the join date and the letters of the name exatly! some use numerical 0 instead of alphabetical O, and please watch out for sold accounts! this forum allows selling of any account, so make it difficult to know who's still real, I do not allow selling of accounts on my forum
An escrow list - updated 11/17
Note to mod, I know this is in the wrong section as I am not selling anything, I feel we all need to be wiser, People in the selling forums are less likely to look elsewhere for information on what this is and how it is acheved,
Even if a few people read this and use escrow, Or a few scammers don't get their coins, I will consider this a good job.
Please consider not moveing out the way, This needs to be addressed.
** jan 16
There is a new wave of possible scammers, People who buy up legendary accounts and trade untill they have large sum of money then run, This has been done with a very trusted account recently.
Please be cautious, I am trying to set up a 3 way secure key escrow for my personal escrows to add peace of mind.
I would like to point out, that I do not partake in escrowing forum accounts, I never have and never will, in fact its against the rules on my forum, This is a trust based commodity as it stands, if we keep moving the goal posts as well as the stadium, no one can be accountable for theft!
Keep safe people, dont give up, trust in BTC, suspect people :-)
** April 17
please watch out for fake accounts made to look like hero/legendary escrow accounts, check the join date and the letters of the name exatly! some use numerical 0 instead of alphabetical O, and please watch out for sold accounts! this forum allows selling of any account, so make it difficult to know who's still real, I do not allow selling of accounts on my forum
I can’t find the source for the third post by the “salsa” account; but it is obviously plagiarized, too. It even references a “table below” which does not exist in the post. It appears to be copied from marketing materials for Monex Investindo Futures (MIFX), an Indonesian forex broker. Incidentally, the material is off-topic in the thread.
https://web.archive.org/web/20180322013759/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2711756.msg27751213#msg27751213
What is the effect of spread on profit opportunities?
Often traders only consider commissions trading. In reality, trading profits depend on commissions and spreads. Monex comes with the lowest commission and spread combinations with no hidden costs that give you a lower break-even point and a 40% higher profit chance *.
* You can see illustrations of the effect of spreads and commissions in the table below
Why deal with market execution?
Market execution is an order to buy or sell at the best available price when the broker receives the request. The order will be immediately done without "requote" or rejection at the best market price so as to guarantee the speed of your transaction.
Why choose an official licensed legal broker?
As a legal broker under the supervision of BAPPEBTI, Monex has operational standards in line with applicable regulations, including a separate account system applied to all customer funds. This ensures the security of your funds is assured during trading. You can also enjoy the ease of withdrawing funds on the same day as all client funds are kept in account in Indonesia.
Often traders only consider commissions trading. In reality, trading profits depend on commissions and spreads. Monex comes with the lowest commission and spread combinations with no hidden costs that give you a lower break-even point and a 40% higher profit chance *.
* You can see illustrations of the effect of spreads and commissions in the table below
Why deal with market execution?
Market execution is an order to buy or sell at the best available price when the broker receives the request. The order will be immediately done without "requote" or rejection at the best market price so as to guarantee the speed of your transaction.
Why choose an official licensed legal broker?
As a legal broker under the supervision of BAPPEBTI, Monex has operational standards in line with applicable regulations, including a separate account system applied to all customer funds. This ensures the security of your funds is assured during trading. You can also enjoy the ease of withdrawing funds on the same day as all client funds are kept in account in Indonesia.
Similar as with the account’s third post, its fourth post is self-evident copypaste plagiarism related to an Indonesian service, stuck in a thread where it is off-topic (here deep on page 5). This one appears to have potentially been run through a machine translation, and self-references “the authors” (plural).
https://web.archive.org/web/20180322014357/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2694817.msg27751818#msg27751818
The rapid development of the business world in line with technological developments has had a major impact on the economic development of Indonesia. This is seen by the tight competition in the business world both trade and industry products and services and the increasing demands of consumers not only limited products or goods consumed but also improved quality of service / service for the product.
This increasingly fierce competition requires companies to manage all existing resources optimally in order to survive in the business world tends to change rapidly. Inventory of goods is one important resource for the survival of a company.
Hospital is one form of business services that provide health services in fulfilling the life of the community, where hospitals in this day and age again only how a person was quickly healed. A very significant development of the proliferation of clinics and hospitals, so the management must strive to provide the best service to paasien not only how to cure it but also apply how to provide support facilities to patients.
Therefore, the authors are interested to discuss the problem Supporting Facilities (Facilities Support) at the Hospital with the aim of improving service to consumers in this case the patient.
This increasingly fierce competition requires companies to manage all existing resources optimally in order to survive in the business world tends to change rapidly. Inventory of goods is one important resource for the survival of a company.
Hospital is one form of business services that provide health services in fulfilling the life of the community, where hospitals in this day and age again only how a person was quickly healed. A very significant development of the proliferation of clinics and hospitals, so the management must strive to provide the best service to paasien not only how to cure it but also apply how to provide support facilities to patients.
Therefore, the authors are interested to discuss the problem Supporting Facilities (Facilities Support) at the Hospital with the aim of improving service to consumers in this case the patient.
For its fifth post, “salsa” copypaste from an article about the outsourcing of graphic design. But here, “salsa” added its own creative touch: Two emoticons appended to the bottom of the copypaste!
Note: The sentence, “Graphic design is one of those things where people like different things but dislike the same ones” is a witty quip which appears to have been plagiarized by other sites (e.g.).
Putative original—link and boldface here presented as in the original:
https://www.ictc-burgas.org/en/news/graphic-design-with-an-outsourcing-company-pros-and-cons
(URL failed to load for me; may be blocking Tor?)
https://web.archive.org/web/20180322015136/https://www.ictc-burgas.org/en/news/graphic-design-with-an-outsourcing-company-pros-and-cons
Graphic design is one of those things where people like different things but dislike the same ones. In a way, when a bad design appears in the world, anyone can tell it’s bad. That’s why you need to be extra cautious when delegating your graphic design tasks to someone else.
Once familiar with the risks, taking the decision of choosing the right outsourcing company will turn into a child’s play. Or at least your choice spectrum will be significantly narrowed down.
If you’re looking for a partner, we - from ICT Burgas, can connect any business looking for outsourcing opportunities with the appropriate local company and guarantee its efficiency and premium quality.
We’ve always preferred bad news served first so let’s try something unconventional and start with the cons of outsourcing your graphic design tasks.
Once familiar with the risks, taking the decision of choosing the right outsourcing company will turn into a child’s play. Or at least your choice spectrum will be significantly narrowed down.
If you’re looking for a partner, we - from ICT Burgas, can connect any business looking for outsourcing opportunities with the appropriate local company and guarantee its efficiency and premium quality.
We’ve always preferred bad news served first so let’s try something unconventional and start with the cons of outsourcing your graphic design tasks.
Note: The copypaste job did not retain formatting, but did keep the weird invisible whitespace on the apparently blank second line.
For its sixth post, the “salsa” account plagiarized an old version of Wikipedia’ Bitcoin article. This text has been plagiarized (without attribution) on multiple other websites, and was likely copied from one of those.
Wikipedia’s edit history has many variations of the wording within this passage; there is probably one which is an exact match, which I simply didn’t find in the page’s voluminous edit history.
(Aside: 1rYK1YzEGa59pI314159KUF2Za4jAYYTd also shows up as an example address in https://casascius.com/AgreementToDeliverBitcoins.pdf, which is still served up with a last-modified date of 2011-02-04 17:39:13 (UTC). Does anybody know what that address is, or where it originated?)
2011 vintage Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bitcoin&oldid=416583341
Bitcoin is a peer-to-peer implementation of the b-money proposal by Wei Dai and Bitgold's proposal by Nick Szabo. The principle of the system in general has been described in 2008 by Satoshi Nakamoto.
Delivery
Someone who participates in a bitcoin network has a wallet that stores some keypair - keypair critiques. Public key - public key, or address - bitcoin address, which acts as the endpoint send or receive for all payments. The associated private key only allows payments only from the user itself. Addresses do not contain any information about the owner and are generally unknown. [8] Addresses in human readable format consist of random numbers and letters that are approximately 33 characters long, in the format 1rYK1YzEGa59pI314159KUF2Za4jAYYTd. Bitcoin users can have multiple addresses, and the fact can generate new addresses without any restrictions, because creating a new address is immediate, comparable to generating a common
Delivery
Someone who participates in a bitcoin network has a wallet that stores some keypair - keypair critiques. Public key - public key, or address - bitcoin address, which acts as the endpoint send or receive for all payments. The associated private key only allows payments only from the user itself. Addresses do not contain any information about the owner and are generally unknown. [8] Addresses in human readable format consist of random numbers and letters that are approximately 33 characters long, in the format 1rYK1YzEGa59pI314159KUF2Za4jAYYTd. Bitcoin users can have multiple addresses, and the fact can generate new addresses without any restrictions, because creating a new address is immediate, comparable to generating a common
The “salsa” account’s seventh post is self-evident plagiarism from a source I cannot immediately locate. It appears to be from marketing materials for “Journals, cloud-based online accounting software”.
https://web.archive.org/web/20180322031043/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1635900.msg27824788#msg27824788
Accounting according to the American Accounting Association is a process of identifying, measuring, and communicating economic information to get the right decision from users of corporate information. However, in the process many companies experience mistakes in the accounting process that can cause losses to the loss of trust from others. Here are some mistakes in accounting processes that are often found in companies.
Recording & Reconciliation Errors
As businesses begin to run smoothly, many entrepreneurs ignore the financial statements simply by reason of not having much time. By not logging business transactions, financial statements will be inconsistent with actual company conditions. Inappropriate and inappropriate financial statements can have a negative effect on the company such as credit rating to be bad or delivery of goods from suppliers to be not smooth.
Only Make Reports as Records
Many entrepreneurs see accounting only as a process of recording corporate financial data that serves only to calculate the balance of the company or the interests of taxation. But in reality, financial statements can provide information as a consideration chart to determine decisions or create strategies for developing a company's business.
Forgot Saving Transaction Proof
Often forget to keep a proof of a transaction like a receipt or note often happens to everyone, especially when attention and thoughts are focused on things. While receipts and notes can be a valid evidence when there is a difference in the number at the time of checking financial statements. Not only that, receipts and notes are also very useful and can facilitate the process of audit and taxation.
Mathematical Error When Counting
Counting errors do not only happen to the culprits but also often happen to experienced accountants. This error often occurs when in a hurry or when tired so can not detect the error. Error calculating when combined with input and reconciliation errors can be a big mistake in the company's financial statements. Where, if the error is unknown for months can lead to a more complex problem when it wants to fix and resolve it.
Those are some of the most common mistakes in the accounting process. To reduce accounting mistakes many entrepreneurs are entrusting their business accounting process with accounting software. Journals, cloud-based online accounting software can help entrepreneurs in making financial reports instantly. Not only that, with Journal accounting software, you can also monitor financial reports anywhere and anytime in real-time. For more info on Journals, you can see here.
Recording & Reconciliation Errors
As businesses begin to run smoothly, many entrepreneurs ignore the financial statements simply by reason of not having much time. By not logging business transactions, financial statements will be inconsistent with actual company conditions. Inappropriate and inappropriate financial statements can have a negative effect on the company such as credit rating to be bad or delivery of goods from suppliers to be not smooth.
Only Make Reports as Records
Many entrepreneurs see accounting only as a process of recording corporate financial data that serves only to calculate the balance of the company or the interests of taxation. But in reality, financial statements can provide information as a consideration chart to determine decisions or create strategies for developing a company's business.
Forgot Saving Transaction Proof
Often forget to keep a proof of a transaction like a receipt or note often happens to everyone, especially when attention and thoughts are focused on things. While receipts and notes can be a valid evidence when there is a difference in the number at the time of checking financial statements. Not only that, receipts and notes are also very useful and can facilitate the process of audit and taxation.
Mathematical Error When Counting
Counting errors do not only happen to the culprits but also often happen to experienced accountants. This error often occurs when in a hurry or when tired so can not detect the error. Error calculating when combined with input and reconciliation errors can be a big mistake in the company's financial statements. Where, if the error is unknown for months can lead to a more complex problem when it wants to fix and resolve it.
Those are some of the most common mistakes in the accounting process. To reduce accounting mistakes many entrepreneurs are entrusting their business accounting process with accounting software. Journals, cloud-based online accounting software can help entrepreneurs in making financial reports instantly. Not only that, with Journal accounting software, you can also monitor financial reports anywhere and anytime in real-time. For more info on Journals, you can see here.
For its eighth post, “salsa” liked a really stupid post so much that its controlling wetware almost simultaneously copypasted it under two different accounts, then praised it with a self-evident sockpuppet.
I wonder what is so significant about this post? Why did this idiocy warrant such attention?
Putative original, by an account which last posted on 2017-11-22, although its profile page shows a login as recently as 2018-03-20 (mostly ungrammatical posts; interests include: airdrops, altcoins, “transaction accelerators”, praising the S2X team...):
https://web.archive.org/web/20180322031319/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2340424.msg23822464#msg23822464
One point I'd like to make is that while Blockchain is a topic that is often associated with Bitcoin, it can exist entirely independent of Bitcoin. There's lots of technical and intellectual "baggage" associated with Bitcoin, and those negatives shouldn't prejudice someone as to the possible uses of Blockchain.
Copypaste by #1644895 “bitcoinbooster”, first and only post by account created 2018-01-10 02:59:21:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180322031648/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2718302.msg27814176#msg27814176
One point I'd like to make is that while Blockchain is a topic that is often associated with Bitcoin, it can exist entirely independent of Bitcoin. There's lots of technical and intellectual "baggage" associated with Bitcoin, and those negatives shouldn't prejudice someone as to the possible uses of Blockchain.
Instant agreement nine minutes later by #1644927 “serasara”, first and only post of account created 2018-01-10 03:08:09:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180322031712/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2718302.msg27814422#msg27814422
One point I'd like to make is that while Blockchain is a topic that is often associated with Bitcoin, it can exist entirely independent of Bitcoin. There's lots of technical and intellectual "baggage" associated with Bitcoin, and those negatives shouldn't prejudice someone as to the possible uses of Blockchain.
I agree with you, thank you for that insight!
Eighth post of “salsa”, almost certainly the same wetware operating this sockpuppet show; note the timestamps on all the copies of this obscure post!
https://web.archive.org/web/20180322032502/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2707174.msg27827623#msg27827623
One point I'd like to make is that while Blockchain is a topic that is often associated with Bitcoin, it can exist entirely independent of Bitcoin. There's lots of technical and intellectual "baggage" associated with Bitcoin, and those negatives shouldn't prejudice someone as to the possible uses of Blockchain.
For its ninth post, “salsa” made a shitpost praising an allegedly free “transaction accelerator”:
Re: [FREE] Bitcoin Transaction Accelerator
https://web.archive.org/web/20180322032811/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2455333.msg27830871#msg27830871
your website is really good. that's really help me as beginners to understand important concepts surrounding cryptos.
Well, I suppose that’s “original” in the sense that I have no evidence of it having been plagiarized. What a contribution to the forum!
Please guarantee that that shall have been the last-ever post by that account—and if any other linkage can be found, please terminate this person’s posting career!
