Topic: Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed - page 83. (Read 118621 times)

Lauda was someone who had a mark in the forum, even if it was an unnecessary person.

The forum will be a better place when the managers do what it takes. A member with thousands of posts will no longer be here, but at the same time, the forum will be free from a racist, hateful, disrespectful person. We know very well why those who defend Lauda. In fact, what is written here gives us an idea of what everyone is.

I think we should all be quiet and respectfully waiting for managers to do their jobs.

By the way, I would like to quote this post, which is a valuable comment for me;

First of all, I'm not talking about the numbered list. I specifically said that instance wasn't plagiarism. I'm talking about the second example which is word-for-word copying another person's post and passing it off as their own work.

Second of all, regardless of the motives behind why somebody reported plagiarism, plagiarism is still plagiarism. Doesn't matter what you think is more "egregious" as this isn't a contest -- if somebody copies the work of another verbatim and doesn't attribute the source to it, that is plagiarism.

Plagiarism (Thanks to @jawhead999) :

User : skiphendri6661

Original Source :
Bisnis Bitcoin merupakan salah satu bisnis cryptocurrency yang cukup populer di kalangan investor kekinian. Kata bitcoin sendiri pasti sangat familiar didengar dan sebagian besar kalangan sudah cukup paham bitcoin merupakan uang elektronik yang memiliki nilai tukar dan jual yang cukup menjanjikan.....

Thank you, I understand the point. I will not break their merry circle

This is how these guys prefer to spend their free time.

So, nobody is going to be banned, just take it and move on. Rules are equal for all the people, but some people are more equal than others.

Didn't CH post the same (DRK scam proof links list) many times, warning of the instamine scam, but only forgot the link to the list in a couple of them?

I think he linked to the same proof a bunch of times, but only missed the link in a couple of them? No?

Either way... It's not as egregious as word spinning (lauda).. CH just posted a list of links with "plagerized" descriptions/headlines of the links..

If CH deserves a ban for posting proof links, the word spinners deserve 2X+ the same ban, easy..

Posting a kindof well know list doesn't seem to involve deception, especially along with unique text on topic of the list..

Word spinning, on the other hand, shows deception.. Shows that they knew it was plagiarism, and were trying to get away with it, to hide it..


For any that don't know or remember, these plagerism accusations came against CH a long time ago as an attack in retaliation for speaking out as the status quo.. And failed... So keep that in mind also..

Well of course the proven scammer facilitator for pay nutildah who cryptohunter was keen on busting wants the true legend scam hunter cryptohunter banned for busting the other scam he was in on.

As explained but you keep trying to ignore that was clearly not a deliberate attempt to claim this as his original work since of all the times he copy and paste it he did reference it some of the times. If you wanted to be considered the original source you would not do that. Also that was a famous piece of evidence on this forum at the time.

Also that passage of proof that your friend lauda was lying to scam the forum out of a 2 000 000 000 usd compensation offer was widely quoted at the top of all the huge dark scam threads

Besides trying to spin retrieving a 2 000 000 000 usd against the same scam you and lauda were embroiled with as neg negative due to sporadic occasions of lack of reference is clearly the actions of proven scamming scum like nutildah read about him below


 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5190369.20

Nobody who wants to claim text as their own refences it some of the time and not others.
Clearly ch was just smashing your scam and winning 2000 000 000 usd compensation for the entire forum and was getting sloppy with the references.

Now stop telling lies and trying to conflate a true legend scam hunters efforts fighting huge scams pushed by you and other proven scammers and winning 2 000 000 000 usd for the entire forum with deliberately trying claim he was the origin of the proof that was provided to help prove what he was saying was true about the instamined scam you and lauda were profiting from.

Disgusting little non achieving scammer nutildah.

You should be banned you are a proven greedy willing scam facilitator for pay who will try to delete the evidence. You are also colluding with other proven scammers to prevent legitimate scam warnings to honest members.

I suspect you have purchased this account since the original nutildah was given 300btc and an early dash adopter.
It is impossible someone could be such a loser to be begging for 0.02 btc loans recently.

I will request theymos look at any strange server side clues the account was really sold back when it was up for sale
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5190369.20

Cryptohunter was guilty at most of some sloppy copy and paste but was using this information to fight scams nutildah and lauda were supporting.

CH fought against all legends being banned for copy and paste ( the only member to do so) but lauda has stated plagiarism is scamming of ideas or has given merit and support to that post and lauda wants plagiarists banned.

CH wants proven scammers banned which he said was irredeemable

Let lauda and CH live by their own standards.

Can you notice how lauda and nutildah are very similar?

Well nutildah wants account sellers branded as scammer facilitators
Then nutildah tries to sell his own account for money?

Lauda says plagiarism is intellectual scamming and says he wants others banned for it
Then lauda is found sneakily and deliberately grafting other peoples words into his own paragraphs??
100% deliberate and sneaky

Then nutidah is found colluding with lauda

Cryptohunter is the original scam hunter to bust nutildah and laudas scam coin and laudas lies and force that scam to offer 2 000 000 000usd compensation to the forum

Cryptohunter (via ts) locates and finds the evidence nutildah is a willing scam facilitator for pay
Cryptohunter is immediately attempting to bring awareness to the fact we have such scammer facilitators in default trust.
Nutildah gives CH red trust and then tries to delete the evidence he is a willing scam facilitator for pay.

Now you wonder why they want CH banned?

Of course scammers want those that bust their scamming banned on false conflated charges.

Read research and understand.

It seems to me that this whole discussion is getting a little pointless.
Forum members report plagiarism, arguments are made and nothing happens after that  
Do the admins read these reports at all?
At some point someone needs to make a decision about these reports and we all need to move on with life.
Otherwise, we just waste time and energy on meaningless discussions and nothing changes.
If there are new rules for plagiarism, it would be good for the admins to tell us something about it  

At the risk of going OT, I don't think banning individual users has much effect on forum traffic. Even now, there's over 11,000 unique users browsing the forum during any given week. While this number is way down from Dec 2017 (maybe 80%), total impressions from ads are down less than 50%. The forum seems to have reached a low point in activity in March, and is slowly rebounding.

If admin has changed the rules for forum violations, please specify to me that plagiarism is no longer a violation. If this is still a violation, what is the penalty for a user caught in plagiarism? I was given 60 days of silence and 1 year of signature ban. Many users were permanently banned. And now...?

Looks like to me theymos can't afford to ban users anymore.

Maybe he needs the little bit of activity even if it is coming from multi-accounters/cheaters. Not talking about lauda in particular. There are also ban evaders wandering around freely.

Yes, I agree with you - lauda should be banned for plagiarism


UP

You could just as easily be talking about cryptohunter, who also clearly engaged in plagiarism and has yet to be punished.

Are you unknowingly misrepresent the meaning of the words I was talking about? Or do you do it knowingly?
Use google translate to read my signature.

OK so thanks for admitting cryptohunter (you) engaged in plagiarism. I knew you had a sensible side, glad I took you off ignore just to read this one post.


I agree: cryptohunter should definitely be banned for plagiarism.

Well this is how it works and it is entirely logical

Copy and paste is copy and paste aka it happened

Plagiarism has levels of seriousness

1. Not intending to pass it off as your own, like sometimes referencing the same quote. I mean clearly  referencing it sometimes is not seriously trying to pretend they are the origin.

2. Intending to pass it off as your own with no financial gain .. just to look maybe clever or cool

3. Intending to pass it off as your own for a purely financial basis like chitbitcity who was doing it to make up posts to gain his sponsor quota for max pay who seems to be back posting away with a sig on?
Anyway AFAIK chibitcity is not a proven scammer, extortionist, etc so even though he is a level 3 plagiarist he must have been deemed to have some net value. It appears even CH or Toaa agrees with this. I am not sure why.


Lauda was wearing a sig at the time or not  I dont  know. So perhaps category 2 or 3 but clearly grafting copy and paste in to your own words in a paragraph is deliberate attempt at obfuscation. May be there was not a direct financial gain


I mean with plagiarism of any level intention is key and one of the most heavily weighted factors.

Now the key consideration with any punishment is net gain of the member when we match it against the plagiarism. The more serious the plagiarism the more net postive them member would have to have been. I mean a level 1 plagiarism and perhaps a totally neutral non achieving members would be fine.

For a level 3 plagiarism or even level 2.  Then a neutral member could have a problem.

A level 2 plagiarism  then you would perhaps need have done something a bit useful to counter your deliberate plagiarism.

For level 3 plagiarism a directly deliberate and directly financially motivated episode. Then I expect you would need to demonstrate you have been highly net positive to counter that type

Also some say date should be a factor due to it not being In the rules.

Theymos has said he is not a robot and is capable of differentiating between peoples intentions and motives, and their previous contributions will be considered.

If lauda was a not a proven scammer , extortionist , shady escrow,  trust abuser who is colluding with other proven scammers like nutildah tman etc I would likely say a 2 year sig ban is plenty. He has had a few temp bans so another would need to be longer than the last.

Since he is all of the above It is reasonable to push for a very serious punishment .

Debunk my points or accept them as true.

I will debate and discuss these points with anyone.  Sadly most DT are scammer supporting morons who know in will crush them as I always crush them.  Hence this fear.

Bottom line - any reason to ban a scammer is a good reason

You will find it impossible to demonstrate they are net positive.

These are attempts to distract attention from the the main meaning - plagiarism. They will lie again and again, order linguistic expertise, and so on. But the fact remains that this is PLAGIARISM! Some are truly useful for the forum users have been permanently banned for over a fewer number of plagiarism.

Well stop telling lies about his great contribution to the forum that should mitigate his punishment.

Proven scammers are net negative end of

Theymos has said and as any reasonable person would understand that " plagiarism " covers a wide and varied set of behavior and intentions all involving copy and paste

Sensible  consideration of the full context of the member and situation is required to arrive at the correct  action to be taken.

People claiming lauda is net positive are telling lies. I will debunk those lies whenever I see them.

Fine if we are not banning for plagiarism now then fine but he must have 10yr sig ban and no making  money from the forum from escrow or any other rev streams and kept entirely away from DT.

@nutildah proven scammer facilitator sponsored by fortunejack
Yes there were about 5 threads on the cryptohunter copy and paste of the proof provided to help prove lauda was lying about the premine. It was found sometimes he referenced it and sometimes did not reference it
It was clearly a case of attributed copy and paste on occasion

The context was obviously reviewed and since it was in the best interest of the entire forum being awarded 2 000 000 000 usd compensation it was certainly not net negative you dumb cunt.

So yes it seems sometimes he correctly linked to the original source sometimes not clearly not someone sneaking something in once trying to pretend it was his.
The motivation for him splattering this proof everywhere over the forum was to fight scammers like you and lauda who were pushing that scam I notice. You are a dark coin supporter were you not scammer nutildah?

This is worse than trying to punish people who copy and paste things trying to help people solve a problem or a mining guide or something

Cryptohunter was only wasting his time copy and pasting this proof someone made to support  cryptohunter s claims because people like lauda was lying and promoting the lie that he was on the launch and there was not instamine and scum bags like nutildah were benefitting from such lies

Yeah let's help scammers punish the real scam fighters that stopped them scamming and won 2 000 000 000 usd for the forum.
What a disgusting scamming cunt nutildah sponsored by fortunejack is

Yes, that's when it was first referenced in this thread by ScumBuster. Not sure how many people reported it. I don't think a reminder to the mods would be bad as its still plagiarism.

Anybody want to make the case that its not? I'm open to reasonable discussion of the matter as to how I could be mistaken.

He might be everything you said above but that doesn't warrant a ban, does that? C'mon, we are talking about his plagiarism and ban, that mustn't be compared with what he is.