Topic: Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed - page 86. (Read 118776 times)

Mods don't always act quickly on posts in this topics. I assume the posts in question have been reported too, and I also assume this is now being discussed on the Moderators' board.

No I think signature bans are more appropriate then permabans  for most case of plagiarism .

Also back 2015 no one gave a shit about the issue.

I have argued this over and over and over for more then one person.

No one ever listened to me about it.

  
    Two examples  given about lauda appear to be clear cut examples of plagiarism.
I have argued more then once for long term signature bans especially over the older posts predating 2017.
So I say give Lauda a long signature ban.

Signature to read    "My signature is banned until (2021 or 2022) or 2024  BTC ½ ing

    It effectively removes incentive to plagiarize for the sake of signature profits and it allows us to track lauda since he/she could post but not earn coin.  A ban would simply incentivize lauda to use an alt.


BTW I think we should unban quite a few people and just give them signature bans.

The last two pages of this thread are now dominated by the discovery of Lauda's plagiarism, and now there are two more threads in Meta quickly filling with drama.  The anti-Lauda crowd are pulling their socks out of the closet to add to the drama and trolling the Meta board.

@Theymos and Admin; please do something soon.  The longer you drag this out the more drama, trolling, and repetitive and redundant mudslinging we'll find in these threads.  In accordance with previous situations like this, where a valued contributing member has been found to have broken the rules, I think a fair approach is a temporary ban, along with a signature ban.  If you fail to act it will only spur theories of special treatment and inconsistent enforcement of the rules. 

Rules for thee and no rules for me 


Although most of the times, Lauda is too harsh to account buyers & sellers and harsh on sending negative feedback, I will be misiing Lauda around.
#JusticeForAll

Really? With this so many proof, you can still defend Lauda?
Are the people who attack everyone in the forum by cutting allegations now defending Lauda? Do people who put forward everyone's mistakes for nonsense reasons now try to stretch the most important rule of the forum for Lauda?

Guys, you're getting funny!

And, @theymos should do what he needs to do right now! Or to unlock all accounts banned due to plagiarism to date!

Still, I think the name Lauda would suit this list very well;
http://loyce.club/bans/banned.html

Having busted many word spinners I can assure you that plagiarism is not just "copying and pasting stuff". Why do you keep doing this? There is no point arguing that plagiarism didn't occur. It did. Mods will decide the rest. Should you find yourself in a similar situation you would want the same thing, not mob justice.

Copy and paste a post. Then change it a little bit. Perform originalization. I'm sorry, but this is also idea theft. In fact, this is a worse crime. Honest people refer to the source.

Other posts are already completely copy-paste.

I'm going to fix some of the highlighting bitcoinchan made that does not show copy and paste. Because the definition of plagiarism is copying and pasting stuff (without attribution).

Posts 1, 3, 4 and 6 are correct as they are. Red is the post which Lauda is accused of having plagiarized, blue is the text that bitcoinchan has incorrectly classified as plagiarism.

They got what they wanted, sadly a lot of senior members are also playing into their games unknowingly. There are truths of which they are not aware of luckily. It would be a waste of time to discuss with them, trying something obviously malicious such as to equate forgetting events of 1 or 2 years ago and 5 to 6 years ago for example and more. Here's to another year of being the main topic of discussion. What year in a row is this? I am sorry for those who collaterally suffer because of my past.

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This is not necessarily the case, but it was evident the account did this out of vengeful reasons and not by mistake or due to advanced definitions of plagiarism.

I have had appreciation for Lauda for their handling of alt-account spammers, scammers and plagiarizers for a long time. In the sea of the scammer posts, it would have been hard to give everyone a hearing one by one. Those newbie scammers came here AFTER a lot of newbie guides were in place unlike say, 6 years back. Most accounts that were banned by Lauda after they became a moderator may not have gotten personal attention but the guidelines were there, many of them made by Lauda.

Yet, this can't be an excuse. Those posts are 5-6 years in the past and from a time when you would have been told by someone like BadBear of how things are. But then that same standard should have been applied to other people too. This is a fire-trial of the golden rule "Treat others how you want to be treated". There isn't going to be any happy ending here. Its either every banned user who did such a "mistake" before a certain time-frame (Say when guides were made available or ban guides were prominently visible or when the bot was deployed) be allowed to come back or to give the same treatment to Lauda.

This does not change the fact that Lauda does a lot of work in tagging scammer accounts and has contributed a lot to the forum. There's possibility for the witch to be burnt at the stake finally and you can already hear the Hyenas howl. Maybe now is the right time to open parole procedure for Satoshi's forum.

  

Excuse:  “I just don't remember when I did this shit!”

This does not change that fact that this is not how attribute the work properly (which would have been trivially easy but you decided not to do it). This is intellectual theft nevertheless.

You stole work. Unlike you, I do not respect double standards so no.

What happened to "objective standards"?

does not get to make its own rules. No source, not even a quotation. Time to stop defending intellectual theft and for you to go back to your other activities.

Dishonest thief.

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These sentences are quote. Please click on links. This words belong him and his gang. Racist anger, trust abuse, blacklist, lies, collective punishment, manipulation and plagiarism. Endless ban was given for much less, to other members. So really What happened to "objective standards"? What is the crime of those who have been banned to date due to plagiarism?

I can't hear apology here anyway. Just "I must have unknowingly repeated" How can an article be kept in mind so clearly? Even the punctuation marks are the same.

Fuck your reason, it's a plagiarism and you should be ban. Simple as that.

It's simple as all plagiarism cases. You plagiarize you should be perma ban.

It's a clear plagiarism. You did many plagiarism without quoting and this is a:

You had kicked out many peoples easily with using rules like weapons. You had tagged peoples easily which you dislike. Users losts their accounts for only small mistakes. And from now same weapons shots you with a true story.


May be you can understand these sentences and have some emphaty from now. I'm not going to be happy when see you banned but it's time for rules.

I would but I have yet to state an actual reason for this, or figure out what the reason was. Read my post again. These events are too far into the past for me to know much more than the outside viewer.

You should create plagiarism bingo card and put all you reason there

I am not sure when all of these posts were made exactly in relation to the bans. It may be that all were made before or that none were. There is no way for me to verify the exact dates sadly, I have tried. Furthermore, even if they were made before the account was banned there is no way to verify that they were seen and partially responsible for the bans. Coincidentally, many users have resurfaced since or around this report (in addition to a flag being created the same day) just not the one who could answer my questions about this. BadBear has been inactive for 2 years.

I was just stopping by, and something interests me.

But she said, she already received the punishment:

What do you think? Get punished again for the same reason? *assumed she is telling the truth.
It's like getting released from jail and then getting arrested again for the same crime.

Both of these speak every word that needs to be said from me on the subject of Lauda.

I have silently watched things unfold;  and seen both baseless and true accusations from and about this person.

I'm on the feeling of:  the way those edits were made:  were to achieve the objective of providing substance as to make a post;  rather than reference people correctly to the information.... passing it on as themselves.


This is a massive no-no in any respect.

My cards are on the table.   I wonder where the chips will go.

No, it can't. Plagiarism is one of very few things that theymos has zero tolerance for (except for account buyers).

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