.AvalonMiner 6.0
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Topic: [Review] Avalon 6 Miner - Winter Mining - Notlist3d - Also FAQ and Help - page 41. (Read 79347 times)
November 24, 2015, 01:08:32 PM
nice they either fixed the price on the EHash site or opened up single sells now .
AvalonMiner 6.0
4.44 ฿
.AvalonMiner 6.0
4.44 ฿
November 24, 2015, 01:05:57 PM
i heard that a new firmware is in the works which fixes the smartspeed issue
Did they mention any kinda time frame? That is good news to hear if they make it where it under clocks. The 4.1 was kinda a king when it came to under clocking. I still view the miner as a good miner and have had good luck with it. I know I'm enjoying the free heat.
Right now it's not a huge deal but come after winter if they have a firmware ready to underclock, that would put them in a much better spot then S7 I think depending on under clock.
November 24, 2015, 12:40:30 PM
i heard that a new firmware is in the works which fixes the smartspeed issue
good so for now I will mine at freq 480 and wait for the fix.
this would make the gear better then the s-7
I believe there is a psu board for a server psu that will allow for a nice big voltage spread. Maybe Finksy is the Western hemisphere seller.
J4bberwock
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gauging-interest-in-a-s5-3xs7-specific-power-supply-breakout-board-1178099
November 24, 2015, 12:26:23 PM
i heard that a new firmware is in the works which fixes the smartspeed issue
November 24, 2015, 11:58:01 AM
Follow up on under volt. The gear will run as low as 9.6 volts .
The problem is smart speed it comes enabled so no matter what you set volts at smart speed lowers the hash rate to make no hardware errors.
Some one with good ssh skills will need to get in and figure out how to turn off smart speed.
the gear does over clock if you set your psu to 13 volts it does over 4000gh
The problem is smart speed it comes enabled so no matter what you set volts at smart speed lowers the hash rate to make no hardware errors.
Some one with good ssh skills will need to get in and figure out how to turn off smart speed.
the gear does over clock if you set your psu to 13 volts it does over 4000gh
Thanks for sharing! What does watts used look like when hitting 4000 GH, that is a decent OC from 3.5.
That is a 14 percent overclock. So better then a lot of machines as far as OC with your nice PSU.
13 volts let me do 4000gh all via smartspeed which means it overrides the 500 freq max.
November 24, 2015, 11:56:26 AM
Follow up on under volt. The gear will run as low as 9.6 volts .
The problem is smart speed it comes enabled so no matter what you set volts at smart speed lowers the hash rate to make no hardware errors.
Some one with good ssh skills will need to get in and figure out how to turn off smart speed.
the gear does over clock if you set your psu to 13 volts it does over 4000gh
The problem is smart speed it comes enabled so no matter what you set volts at smart speed lowers the hash rate to make no hardware errors.
Some one with good ssh skills will need to get in and figure out how to turn off smart speed.
the gear does over clock if you set your psu to 13 volts it does over 4000gh
Yes it's a bit odd from the numbers I have seen posted it responds more like a Miner does when you just turn the frequency down and leave the volts unchanged, giving a constant J/GH. Make me feel that the algorithm continually turns the frequency down further than it needs to?
Rich
I have not gotten to play with the undervolting and overvolting. But as far as just changing frequency it does stay pretty darn close to their J/GH advertised rate. I did a little test and have it in second post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13028512
As far as just changing freq it seems only reason so far for a freq only adjustment would be if you wanted to run with a lower power PSU. For most I doubt they do this though as we like to get as much as possible, unless there is a good underclock.
November 24, 2015, 11:52:55 AM
Follow up on under volt. The gear will run as low as 9.6 volts .
The problem is smart speed it comes enabled so no matter what you set volts at smart speed lowers the hash rate to make no hardware errors.
Some one with good ssh skills will need to get in and figure out how to turn off smart speed.
the gear does over clock if you set your psu to 13 volts it does over 4000gh
The problem is smart speed it comes enabled so no matter what you set volts at smart speed lowers the hash rate to make no hardware errors.
Some one with good ssh skills will need to get in and figure out how to turn off smart speed.
the gear does over clock if you set your psu to 13 volts it does over 4000gh
Thanks for sharing! What does watts used look like when hitting 4000 GH, that is a decent OC from 3.5.
That is a 14 percent overclock. So better then a lot of machines as far as OC with your nice PSU.
November 24, 2015, 10:31:50 AM
Follow up on under volt. The gear will run as low as 9.6 volts .
The problem is smart speed it comes enabled so no matter what you set volts at smart speed lowers the hash rate to make no hardware errors.
Some one with good ssh skills will need to get in and figure out how to turn off smart speed.
the gear does over clock if you set your psu to 13 volts it does over 4000gh
The problem is smart speed it comes enabled so no matter what you set volts at smart speed lowers the hash rate to make no hardware errors.
Some one with good ssh skills will need to get in and figure out how to turn off smart speed.
the gear does over clock if you set your psu to 13 volts it does over 4000gh
Yes it's a bit odd from the numbers I have seen posted it responds more like a Miner does when you just turn the frequency down and leave the volts unchanged, giving a constant J/GH. Make me feel that the algorithm continually turns the frequency down further than it needs to?
Rich
November 24, 2015, 09:02:48 AM
Follow up on under volt. The gear will run as low as 9.6 volts .
The problem is smart speed it comes enabled so no matter what you set volts at smart speed lowers the hash rate to make no hardware errors.
Some one with good ssh skills will need to get in and figure out how to turn off smart speed.
the gear does over clock if you set your psu to 13 volts it does over 4000gh
The problem is smart speed it comes enabled so no matter what you set volts at smart speed lowers the hash rate to make no hardware errors.
Some one with good ssh skills will need to get in and figure out how to turn off smart speed.
the gear does over clock if you set your psu to 13 volts it does over 4000gh
November 23, 2015, 07:39:36 PM
For those looking at undervolting here is Phil's thread - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/my-avalon-6s-are-in-undervolt-down-clock-results-1260500
It's still early in the testing process. I think after a few day's of Phil testing there will have a lot more answers as far as undervolting.
It's still early in the testing process. I think after a few day's of Phil testing there will have a lot more answers as far as undervolting.
November 23, 2015, 12:11:31 PM
Fedex sent my gear 1 day early. yeah baby!.
Real fast setup is good .
freq 400
volts 11.2
watts 741
2800gh
I will shoot for lower.
10.6 volts
Real fast setup is good .
freq 400
volts 11.2
watts 741
2800gh
I will shoot for lower.
10.6 volts
Nice glad to hear you got it early! And thanks for sharing that would mean your currently have the most efficient Avalon 6 out there so far with those results
November 23, 2015, 11:56:04 AM
Fedex sent my gear 1 day early. yeah baby!.
Real fast setup is good .
freq 400
volts 11.2
watts 741
2800gh
I will shoot for lower.
10.6 volts
Real fast setup is good .
freq 400
volts 11.2
watts 741
2800gh
I will shoot for lower.
10.6 volts
Nice I think you may have a good one. 11.2 & 2800GH is at the top end of the point I have on my Graph from other peoples data.
Rich
November 23, 2015, 11:28:21 AM
Fedex sent my gear 1 day early. yeah baby!.
Real fast setup is good .
freq 400
volts 11.2
watts 741
2800gh
I will shoot for lower.
10.6 volts
Real fast setup is good .
freq 400
volts 11.2
watts 741
2800gh
I will shoot for lower.
10.6 volts
November 23, 2015, 11:23:44 AM
So looking at the data that is available on Frequency / Voltage / Hash Rate raises a couple of questions?
1) The posted information shows a differing Hash Rate v Voltage so this implies that the Frequency is adjusted automatically? Is there any where on the Display that you can see the Frequency that the Miner has selected?
2) I also see that the Frequency can be set by the user, given the automatic setting of Frequency is it reasonable to assume this the user set frequency selects the Start / Max Frequency the Miner will use?
3) I assume that the Miner monitors the HW error rate and adjusts the Frequency for zero or a low number? Is there anything that shows the error rate or this process, or have Avalon said anything about how this is achieved?
Very much looking forward to seeing some measurements at reduced voltages, here's hoping that we can get under 0.2J/GH and a decent hash rate.
Rich
1) The posted information shows a differing Hash Rate v Voltage so this implies that the Frequency is adjusted automatically? Is there any where on the Display that you can see the Frequency that the Miner has selected?
2) I also see that the Frequency can be set by the user, given the automatic setting of Frequency is it reasonable to assume this the user set frequency selects the Start / Max Frequency the Miner will use?
3) I assume that the Miner monitors the HW error rate and adjusts the Frequency for zero or a low number? Is there anything that shows the error rate or this process, or have Avalon said anything about how this is achieved?
Very much looking forward to seeing some measurements at reduced voltages, here's hoping that we can get under 0.2J/GH and a decent hash rate.
Rich
1) A text box is there on the cgminer configuration page that you can change the max chip frequency. It tells range and you can type it, as shown below:
2) See above. The new firmware I uploaded from BlockC that your setting the max frequency, does not mention start.
3) As far as frequency it does appear from looking at current in Cgminer API Log it does change. With starting on 500 chip freq it shows: Freq[45.54] And after around 5 minutes it shows: Freq[41.96]. So it does appear it is adjusted as it run's and changes frequency, one would assume it is for optimization. But it does not mention this so I don't want to promise more then I can prove.
As far more specifics on 2/3 I suggest contacting BlockC or Canaan Creative for more specifics. You are really going to need to get into contact one of their team working on firmware for good and accurate responses on those specific questions.
Thanks for the additional info. Yes I just guessed that it might Start at whatever you set the max Frequency to? Good that you can look in cgminer API Log and see what has happened, would be better if they display dynamically showed the set frequency?
Although I guess the idea is to hide the complexity and just optimise the miner for the prevailing conditions.If they will tell us it would be instructive to have an idea of the parameters that they use to select the frequency? I will drop them an email and see what response I get, not that I need to know but it's just interesting stuff... If not we will have to try and work it out. I am sorely tempted to buy one but with my 15c electricity and the way the difficulty seems to be headed I will wait for your or Phil's Undervolting tests before pressing the button. I am only going to buy if my figures show I can run profitably for a few Months after the halving.
Rich
November 23, 2015, 10:51:35 AM
Cleaned up thread just a little bit. Trying to focus more on Avalon 6 information then speculation of hashrates or ROI.
Not many were effected but if you were you should have gotten a PM.
Not many were effected but if you were you should have gotten a PM.
November 23, 2015, 10:19:42 AM
Looking forward to your testing Phil
I'll have my 5 moved into permanent spots tomorrow. They basically replaced the sp20's I had running
So now I'm all Avalon.. (4.1's and the 6's) aside from one s7 in the basement at home
I'll have my 5 moved into permanent spots tomorrow. They basically replaced the sp20's I had running
So now I'm all Avalon.. (4.1's and the 6's) aside from one s7 in the basement at home
I will be 2 avalon's and 2 s-7's
maybe 4400 watts my pdu can do 30 amps or 7200 watts x 80% = 5760 watts
after I set up the avalons and test with under volting i will decide how to run them.
I may go the route of all avalon and sell the s-7's off if the avalons can do .20 watts and 1800 to 2500gh.
I really can't justify underclocking any of the new gear. If anything I'd overclock them as much as possible right now. Its already hard enough to ROI with the next two diff jumps being 10%+. I don't get how your going to make $1,400 back with a miner that only produces .006 per day (at 1,800-2,000Ghs). And trust me, the payout will drop to that in exactly two weeks after the next 10%+ diff jump post this 10%+ in a few hours. It could be well over 10%+ in the next few adjustments once all the S7s and Avalon 6s in the next batches ship out.
I hit ⅓ of a block and paid off 1 s-7. I sold 4 coins at 500 each and paid off the other s-7.
So I can justify it. As I may sell the 2 fully paid for s-7's and run 4 to 7 avalon 6's
I know I can do up to 6kwatts in my garage during cold weather. so my choices are more heat limitation then anything else. Ie if it is 50f the garage gets too hot.
I figure diff to level off under 95billion
November 23, 2015, 10:01:50 AM
Looking forward to your testing Phil
I'll have my 5 moved into permanent spots tomorrow. They basically replaced the sp20's I had running
So now I'm all Avalon.. (4.1's and the 6's) aside from one s7 in the basement at home
I'll have my 5 moved into permanent spots tomorrow. They basically replaced the sp20's I had running
So now I'm all Avalon.. (4.1's and the 6's) aside from one s7 in the basement at home
I will be 2 avalon's and 2 s-7's
maybe 4400 watts my pdu can do 30 amps or 7200 watts x 80% = 5760 watts
after I set up the avalons and test with under volting i will decide how to run them.
I may go the route of all avalon and sell the s-7's off if the avalons can do .20 watts and 1800 to 2500gh.
I really can't justify underclocking any of the new gear. If anything I'd overclock them as much as possible right now. Its already hard enough to ROI with the next two diff jumps being 10%+. I don't get how your going to make $1,400 back with a miner that only produces .006 per day (at 1,800-2,000Ghs). And trust me, the payout will drop to that in exactly two weeks after the next 10%+ diff jump post this 10%+ in a few hours. It could be well over 10%+ in the next few adjustments once all the S7s and Avalon 6s in the next batches ship out.
November 23, 2015, 09:18:21 AM
Looking forward to your testing Phil
I'll have my 5 moved into permanent spots tomorrow. They basically replaced the sp20's I had running
So now I'm all Avalon.. (4.1's and the 6's) aside from one s7 in the basement at home
I'll have my 5 moved into permanent spots tomorrow. They basically replaced the sp20's I had running
So now I'm all Avalon.. (4.1's and the 6's) aside from one s7 in the basement at home
I will be 2 avalon's and 2 s-7's
maybe 4400 watts my pdu can do 30 amps or 7200 watts x 80% = 5760 watts
after I set up the avalons and test with under volting i will decide how to run them.
I may go the route of all avalon and sell the s-7's off if the avalons can do .20 watts and 1800 to 2500gh.
November 23, 2015, 09:10:18 AM
So looking at the data that is available on Frequency / Voltage / Hash Rate raises a couple of questions?
1) The posted information shows a differing Hash Rate v Voltage so this implies that the Frequency is adjusted automatically? Is there any where on the Display that you can see the Frequency that the Miner has selected?
2) I also see that the Frequency can be set by the user, given the automatic setting of Frequency is it reasonable to assume this the user set frequency selects the Start / Max Frequency the Miner will use?
3) I assume that the Miner monitors the HW error rate and adjusts the Frequency for zero or a low number? Is there anything that shows the error rate or this process, or have Avalon said anything about how this is achieved?
Very much looking forward to seeing some measurements at reduced voltages, here's hoping that we can get under 0.2J/GH and a decent hash rate.
Rich
1) The posted information shows a differing Hash Rate v Voltage so this implies that the Frequency is adjusted automatically? Is there any where on the Display that you can see the Frequency that the Miner has selected?
2) I also see that the Frequency can be set by the user, given the automatic setting of Frequency is it reasonable to assume this the user set frequency selects the Start / Max Frequency the Miner will use?
3) I assume that the Miner monitors the HW error rate and adjusts the Frequency for zero or a low number? Is there anything that shows the error rate or this process, or have Avalon said anything about how this is achieved?
Very much looking forward to seeing some measurements at reduced voltages, here's hoping that we can get under 0.2J/GH and a decent hash rate.
Rich
1) A text box is there on the cgminer configuration page that you can change the max chip frequency. It tells range and you can type it, as shown below:
2) See above. The new firmware I uploaded from BlockC that your setting the max frequency, does not mention start.
3) As far as frequency it does appear from looking at current in Cgminer API Log it does change. With starting on 500 chip freq it shows: Freq[45.54] And after around 5 minutes it shows: Freq[41.96]. So it does appear it is adjusted as it run's and changes frequency, one would assume it is for optimization. But it does not mention this so I don't want to promise more then I can prove.
As far more specifics on 2/3 I suggest contacting BlockC or Canaan Creative for more specifics. You are really going to need to get into contact one of their team working on firmware for good and accurate responses on those specific questions.
November 23, 2015, 03:08:51 AM
So looking at the data that is available on Frequency / Voltage / Hash Rate raises a couple of questions?
1) The posted information shows a differing Hash Rate v Voltage so this implies that the Frequency is adjusted automatically? Is there any where on the Display that you can see the Frequency that the Miner has selected?
2) I also see that the Frequency can be set by the user, given the automatic setting of Frequency is it reasonable to assume this the user set frequency selects the Start / Max Frequency the Miner will use?
3) I assume that the Miner monitors the HW error rate and adjusts the Frequency for zero or a low number? Is there anything that shows the error rate or this process, or have Avalon said anything about how this is achieved?
Very much looking forward to seeing some measurements at reduced voltages, here's hoping that we can get under 0.2J/GH and a decent hash rate.
Rich
1) The posted information shows a differing Hash Rate v Voltage so this implies that the Frequency is adjusted automatically? Is there any where on the Display that you can see the Frequency that the Miner has selected?
2) I also see that the Frequency can be set by the user, given the automatic setting of Frequency is it reasonable to assume this the user set frequency selects the Start / Max Frequency the Miner will use?
3) I assume that the Miner monitors the HW error rate and adjusts the Frequency for zero or a low number? Is there anything that shows the error rate or this process, or have Avalon said anything about how this is achieved?
Very much looking forward to seeing some measurements at reduced voltages, here's hoping that we can get under 0.2J/GH and a decent hash rate.
Rich
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