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Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 29, 2021, 08:08:13 PM

Rich have too much !!'
Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor

Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor
Time for revolution !!!

If you don't allow anybody to be rich, then what are going to do if somehow you managed to get rich as well?

If you tax the rich too much to the level of making them poor that would be socialism.

If you knew no matter how hard you work that you would never get rich why would you even bother trying?

Making everybody equals financially would be a punishment for the hardworking smart people.

Why do poor people make multiple kids while rich/educated people make only 1 or 2?

Crying for help and asking the government to destroy the rich would harm the poor the most in the end.

You destroyed the rich and yourself become the rich, what then? The same poor people will riot against you. Do you have a plan for that scenario?

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I've had this perspective on how capitalist started.

It started when the hardworking ones do want to be separated from those who slacks and make fun of their own time instead of working to find food, clothing, etc.

The only problem I see is that the gap is now really big that the pinnacle of the richest man can even fed a whole country for decades and still not going into bankrupt.

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Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 29, 2021, 08:08:13 PM

Rich have too much !!'
Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor

Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor
Time for revolution !!!

Then people will choose not to work hard, they will become lazy relying on that kind of mindset.

The essence of life will not be that thrilling when you will get rich instantly.

If you don't experience the other side of being rich then when you get poor, you probably don't know what to do in that situation. Being poor doesn't mean that you will be forever poor, there are a lot of opportunities there that will help you make yourself successful and rich enough in life. You just need to engage on it, gain experience, work harder, and deal with the reality of life.

If you have a dream, do your best to achieve it because no one will help you achieve that but yourself.

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The wealth don't have that kind of responsibility, it is ours. If you were born poor, it's not your mistake, but if you die poor, it's your mistake, that's what the saying says. We don't need any laws that's so lame, what we need is to be hard working, smart working, and have a lot of source of income in order to achieve whatever life status we want for ourselves, it is our responsibility, we don't rely it to the wealthy people.

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Quote from: Alucard1 on January 30, 2021, 10:49:24 PM

Life is fair, it is all about action and the knowledge you have that you may use to be poor or to be rich, gaining a lot of knowledge plus skills would be a great advantage for you to get rich. Actually, those poor people shouldn't blame others for what they are now, we, ourselves would be the ones who would dictate our state in life. If we make ourselves known and be confident in ourselves then we can make more income and be rich in the future.

Everyone has a different opportunity in their life that not everyone can be rich in the same thing that we all have another purpose and destiny in life. So life is indeed fair because all we need to do is find something suitable for us to reach our goals. We should also keep moving forward and making our feet wet to face every struggle in life

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The difference between the rich and the poor is in their mindset. Rich people usually delay buying things that are not important and use their money
to buy assets, so that in the future assets that give money to the rich man. Meanwhile, if the poor get money, they will immediately buy consumptive
things first. So whatever government policy there will always be rich people and poor people. Therefore, if we want to reduce poverty, government
don't need to provide financial assistance to the poor, but educational assistance. Because most poor people have low education.

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Quote from: odolvlobo on January 30, 2021, 04:48:34 PM

How is it fair that one person is must pay $1 million in taxes and another must pay 0, especially when the person that pays 0 gets more in benefits? Wouldn't it be fair only if each person pays the same amount of taxes and receives the same amount of benefits? It is argued that the wealthier person pays more because they can, but is that fair? It seems more like extortion to me.

If by "the same amount" you mean every single citizen should pay a specific, fixed sum of dollars, then is that called fair when you have someone earning billions vs someone living on a paycheck-to-paycheck basis paying the same amount of taxes and the poorer guy cannot even save a hundred bucks a month?

On one hand, I wouldn't mind it since the millions/billions have probably been earned the hard way. On the other hand though, it only allows the rich to earn even more while the poor are not allowed to progress anymore. This is why I call fairness impossible in society between the rich and the poor. It just cannot really happen. You can't steal someone's wealth just because they have it and you can't let the poor only get poorer. By going in between, it only opens up a large door for underground, black markets. No one is going to be fine with the idea of being a milli/billionaire and having their money casually and legally stolen by the poor.

At this point, it is almost impossible to bring the poor to the rich or vice-versa without being discriminated and having your money stolen. It's too easy for the rich to progress while it's becoming harder and harder for the poor to do the same as the economy is trembling. Wealth inequality will always be there.

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Quote from: odolvlobo on January 29, 2021, 09:19:08 PM

If there are laws that give all the wealth to the poor, then eventually there will be no more wealthy people. Then, how will the poor survive?

They’ll become wealthy enough and help other poor, the cycle continues.
Seriously, a law like this didn’t exist because many rich people don’t want to give up their money easily and they’ll do everything to pay taxes from small to zero at all, besides rich people work for it so poor people have to do the same thing, its not right to feed them all the time.

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They deserve to have too much because they worked too hard back in time

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Quote from: Alucard1 on January 30, 2021, 10:49:24 PM

Life is fair, it is all about action and the knowledge you have that you may use to be poor or to be rich, gaining a lot of knowledge plus skills would be a great advantage for you to get rich. Actually, those poor people shouldn't blame others for what they are now, we, ourselves would be the ones who would dictate our state in life. If we make ourselves known and be confident in ourselves then we can make more income and be rich in the future.

I disagree a bit. Many people have their own faults for staying poor by not getting proper education and gaining skills but there are many who are just unfortunate to born in some place or family where they don't even have the means to pay for education or learning skills because they might deal with poverty as well. In these cases it's important for super rich people to build free schools and to take care of them and government should do more for these section of the society since they are helpless!

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Quote from: Hydrogen on January 29, 2021, 09:43:07 PM

People don't need money, protests or violence. They need information.

Knowledge which allows them to put current events into perspective. So they need not rely on billionaire owned media, and billionaire funded experts to explain things.

Easy to say on paper but there is a reason that this access in information is not achievable, fake news websites are earning millions to spread misinformation to make the populace choose sides on the story when in reality there is no sides to choose from. It is not information that needs to be achieved, we should radically change the school's curriculum that only aims to manufacture workers that are passive enough to accept the system that continuously exploits them. What we need is a change so radical that any attempt to exploit the system again is easily quashed by the people. We should teach people to think critically and question everything they read on paper.

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Life is fair, it is all about action and the knowledge you have that you may use to be poor or to be rich, gaining a lot of knowledge plus skills would be a great advantage for you to get rich. Actually, those poor people shouldn't blame others for what they are now, we, ourselves would be the ones who would dictate our state in life. If we make ourselves known and be confident in ourselves then we can make more income and be rich in the future.

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Quote from: raidarksword on January 30, 2021, 07:54:10 AM

Rich people became rich because they worked hard for it and mostly rich people have high dreams and they believe of their capabilities that's why they were in the position they deserved on the society. I am not underestimating poor people but they usually lazy and stubborn always relying on the help of others and government as well. Rich people have high taxes too.

As much as I hate the idea of socialist redistribution, generalizing this way is pretty naive. Sure, some rich people became rich because they worked hard, others like former wives of billionaires happened to marry the right guy and then get a nice divorce settlement. Let's not forget about those who inherited family money, or happened to invest in the right thing, like many Bitcoiners.

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Isn't that too much? I mean, there are a lot of rich that people that already help poor people but I don't think it would always be the case. Just imagine if there are a lot of people that would take advantage of it and just rely on that certain law. Most of these people worked hard achieving what they have right now, for starters, they rich people and the government should give them sources of profits and not this.

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If there is no poor people then there are no rich people. Some are rich people because they work hard for it and some are inherited. There is even a billionaire who donated his money to those who need it the most especially those country that may have another lockdown. It is not bad to share but doing it like that will only make the country's economy down.

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Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 29, 2021, 08:08:13 PM

Rich have too much !!'
Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor

Do you know about the quote about giving man a fish and teaching them how to fish?

Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 29, 2021, 08:08:13 PM

Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor
Time for revolution !!!

If you insist to start for a revolution, do it alone. I don't want to be involved with something like this that's totally threatening the government. We can help others in our own ways even without publicizing it.

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I'm not saying capitalism is good or beneficial, but if we keep our ways right now, the concept of hierarchy of wealth will remain the most sound and effective way of dealing with society. Someone has to man around people to do the work and be of service to the rest of the society, if we just give people money, there will come a point where they won't want to work anymore since they're gonna be incentivized anyway, so for a concept like free money to work, altruism is something that must be done by everyone.

Quote from: shield132 on January 30, 2021, 03:59:42 PM

Being a rich is a dirty thing too, there are only certain people who have become rich from honest work, otherwise everything happens from dirty job. Don't have an expectation that they study and work hard.

But at the same time, why are you poor? Yeah, it's hard to be poor but it's hard to be rich too. Just sitting at home and doing nothing can't bring you money. Work ~~hard~~ smartly.

And, if we set higher taxes on rich people, we have to put highest percentage of money into education. When there will be an educated people, politicians and "bad guys" will have less power on people. Right now, fake promises and fake hopes still win over people.

Taxation only works up to a certain degree, everyone should rule in negative factors like graft and corrpution in the government's end because those will always exist, so the more taxes imposed on people means more leeway for these politicians to earn ill-gotten wealth.

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Quote from: odolvlobo on January 29, 2021, 09:19:08 PM

If there are laws that give all the wealth to the poor, then eventually there will be no more wealthy people. Then, how will the poor survive?

Moreover, if you give money of the rich to the poor, won't that make the poor rich? What then? The poor will fight among each other, or maybe the rich, who became poor, will fight to get back what was taken from them? The ideas of Robin Hood are pretty dead in modern capitalist society and may it stay this way.
Question for OP: Who is going to decide which people are rich and which are poor? It's pretty easy if you look at the extremes and put together a single mom who works in a diner to feed her children and Jeff Bezos, but let's look at the middle. Where will you draw the line? Is someone who has $10m going to fall into the "rich group"? How about someone who has $100k in the bank?

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Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 29, 2021, 08:08:13 PM

Rich have too much !!'
Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor

Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor
Time for revolution !!!

Nope, this thing wont happen even on my wildest dreams.There's no such thing about giving those funds back to the poor and imagine on how hard those rich men do able to reach out that state
neither via investment, inheritance, pure hard work and other viable reason for him to reach that one and ending up on taken and give to the poor?

thats not how the reality works and you should really stopped on imaging for that thing because it wont really happen no matter what.
Instead on having that jealousy then better work hard and make yourself improved in terms of living and financial status.

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It pains me to say this. But a world where nothing is inventivised and everything is free will not work.if we are benevolent creatures who are all for peace and world understanding then it might happen, but we happened to be creatures of greed, sloth and profiteering, so no one will take the action of labouring so the rest of the society can survive. That's how it is, that's how me and you will act once it happens

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