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Quote from: 20kevin20 on January 30, 2021, 02:57:49 PM

Being taxed more just for being rich is unequal but not doing so creates inequality as well. It's double-edged. Like, would it be fair if you made a million bucks for the gov to take a larger % of your earnings than they would from someone who's earning $2k a month? Why so? Maybe the $2k/mo guy has a very easy job while you've earned your million through hard work. How's that fair?

How is it fair that one person is must pay $1 million in taxes and another must pay 0, especially when the person that pays 0 gets more in benefits? Wouldn't it be fair only if each person pays the same amount of taxes and receives the same amount of benefits? It is argued that the wealthier person pays more because they can, but is that fair? It seems more like extortion to me.

Quote from: shield132 on January 30, 2021, 02:59:42 PM

Being a rich is a dirty thing too, there are only certain people who have become rich from honest work, otherwise everything happens from dirty job. Don't have an expectation that they study and work hard.

If you ever become rich, I will remember your post. I will claim that you are dirty because you are rich and most rich people are dirty, and I will use your post to make my point.

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Being a rich is a dirty thing too, there are only certain people who have become rich from honest work, otherwise everything happens from dirty job. Don't have an expectation that they study and work hard.

But at the same time, why are you poor? Yeah, it's hard to be poor but it's hard to be rich too. Just sitting at home and doing nothing can't bring you money. Work ~~hard~~ smartly.

And, if we set higher taxes on rich people, we have to put highest percentage of money into education. When there will be an educated people, politicians and "bad guys" will have less power on people. Right now, fake promises and fake hopes still win over people.

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Being taxed more just for being rich is unequal but not doing so creates inequality as well. It's double-edged. Like, would it be fair if you made a million bucks for the gov to take a larger % of your earnings than they would from someone who's earning $2k a month? Why so? Maybe the $2k/mo guy has a very easy job while you've earned your million through hard work. How's that fair?

There'll always be hoarders. If larger sums equal larger taxes, then a lot of people will prefer to rather illegally cash in their bucks. That is also bad.

Creating a world where equality exists means going after some communist/extremist principles one way or another, and let's not forget that lots of governments take so much money they do nothing with besides stealing it and throwing it into their own pockets. It's almost impossible to do it peacefully.

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Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 29, 2021, 07:08:13 PM

Rich have too much !!'
Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor

Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor
Time for revolution !!!

Well actually, we can never cut that culture where the rich are just getting wealthier while the poor are getting poorer. If you want to escape this cycle, it is all in your hands. If you are going to let the rich ones use you to get richer while you are just barely surviving, it will never stop for sure. It's not about the taxes cause the rich ones are those who pays much larger amount of taxes. It would be best if you start rethinking your life again and start having a mindset alike with the rich ones where they keep on building their dreams through those who are discouraged and afraid to build their own.

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I wonder one thing... so I have some of my own calculations, with a few millions I would live like a boss until the rest of my life, with my family! I could stop working and still have everything! So why people need 10 millions, a billion... zillion? Is it because of the bigger house, bigger boat? Is it more about controlling others with the money you have?
Why someone needs a billion dollar? When you can have a full life even with a lot less... those people are probably broken inside... it's what I think! They have some psychological problems...

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that's not the perspective. In regulating the economic balance, we often see how a person is poor or rich. rule after rule cannot be changed and burdens the poor. all taxes receive it, based on their adjusted holdings. the state plays a role in regulating the taxation system. As long as we can and are able to use information, then I don't see poverty. not about money, but about the knowledge that makes one rich.

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Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 29, 2021, 07:08:13 PM

Rich have too much !!'
Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor

Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor
Time for revolution !!!

Islam has a very good solution to these problems. In Islamic law rich people has to pay some portion of their money to the poor as a donation. They call it "jakat" which has been officially collected and distributed by the Govt in the golden ages of Islam. I do not find any better solution besides this which can lower the difference between rich and poor.

You can get more knowledge about it in here: https://proven-sa.com/2020/03/calculating-zakat/

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All people deserve to become rich, but they need to work very hard than the other people, which I do not think that many people will want to do that. I think only some people who are willing to work hard and not use their time to relax or do their hobby because they dream that they can become rich in the future.
People who rich can share their money in the donations forms to help poor people in other countries. We already have the revolution in all countries, while many people are trying to rise in this pandemic. But maybe not all people will have the big chance to become rich and accept their situations.

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Or maybe the point is not that there are many rich, but that there are a lot of lazy people who do not want to strain, but who want to live well, though at someone else's expense? We are not talking about the rich type of the Rockefeller families and the like, who, I remind you, have become like that for centuries and thanks to their minds. Most likely we are talking about a lot of rich people who in a fairly short time (conditionally) became millionaires. Did they steal the money? Criminally, deceiving, took possession of them? No - this is an assessment of their studies, efforts, hard work ... Now answer - why are these people obliged to support someone who does not even want to "lift a finger" to improve their situation. If we talk about third world countries where poverty is a "habit of living like this" - and here the rich are not obliged to support the poor, the rich can invest in their economies to create jobs, create a demand for specialists, which means they will instill a desire to learn and develop. ... This is provided if the population is ready to work and adhere to the rules ... Well, you know what I mean!

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Do you think its unfair to have rich people while others are unfortunate to become poor?

Its absurd to have a specific law of giving to the poor the money of rich people that they didnt use for long time. Just think on how they acquire it, you cant see money anywhere there's a process to accumulate it and that is by working hard.

Instead of thinking how to take advantage the assets of rich people, why dont you work hard and set a goal to improve the way you live.

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Rich people became rich because they worked hard for it and mostly rich people have high dreams and they believe of their capabilities that's why they were in the position they deserved on the society. I am not underestimating poor people but they usually lazy and stubborn always relying on the help of others and government as well. Rich people have high taxes too.

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well, world call it "balance" . i've viewed a similar thread like this , why they can bought a expensive yacht but why they seems doesn't care with the poor . then u will know why they bought the yacht.

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instead of forcefully taking the rich money and feed it to the poor, it's better for government to tax the unusually rich maybe a bit higher and then use it to fund education cost for the poor.
That solution will prevent from the uneducated poor people from wasting money for something unnecessary because that's always the case when some people get free money and then using it to buy booze.
The money should be well used for increasing opportunity of jobs for the poor by that you can reduce economic gap otherwise it's only temporarily helps.

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Well, you see, I think instead of taxing the rich and then using those funds for government use, we should make it obligatory for the riches to give charities and be responsible for running some free hospitals and NGOs. The tax that gets collected from the rich are used by politicians for their own benefit, and we live in this system where the rich always becomes richer and poor becomes poorer without any limit. There should be major change in economical system to change that.

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That's funny, isn't the whole point of people working hard day and night is to hoard the wealth? Imagine if your money could be taken that easily are you still willing to work your ass off? the day when such laws (distributing rich money to poor) is the day when everyone become lazy and there's gonna be no development in technology.
Those rich people become rich for reason and if they get it from working hard I don't see any problem. Taxing is enough.

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Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 29, 2021, 07:08:13 PM

Rich have too much !!'
Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor

Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor
Time for revolution !!!

This is very difficult to do. Sure you could increase the tax rate for the rich, but they might just leave the country and move to Switzerland or some small island with no tax rates. As long as there is not international solution, rich people can just play around the tax laws. It would be hard to just take away their money.

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Now I've seen it all, member of bitcointalk (and I guess Bitcoin supporter) asking for more government control over people's property...

@OP Have you ever read any history books? It's like we don't have enough examples in the past how redistribution of wealth ended up, and people risked their lives (and still do) to escape from such "fair" societies. Some parts of highly developed countries (see eastern part of Germany that is still behind) still feel the consequences of those ideas.

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Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 29, 2021, 07:08:13 PM

Rich have too much !!'

Well, they worked for it and managed to get it. How about you stop thinking about them and start focusing on yourself.

Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 29, 2021, 07:08:13 PM

Need laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and given to poor

Lol, that would be the stupidest law that will ever exist. This will just encourage the poor not to work. Would you want the same if you were rich?

Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 29, 2021, 07:08:13 PM

Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor
Time for revolution !!!

So you want government to tax the rich more and give it to the poor? How is that going to create a balance? It would just create a hate between the rich and the poor. The poor will start depending more on the rich (which in a way is always bad).
You are thinking about yourself only. Not the others.

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The problem is not distribution of wealth, but fair opportunity. Some people remain poor it's because it's either they are too lazy to let themselves grow and seek for opportunities, or there is a lack of opportunity. Some people were able to become rich because they are capable of seeking other opportunities such as going to college, finding new jobs and opportunities, and adding skills for self-development. The poor remain poor because there is poor educational system, lack of job opportunities and even knowledge on how to keep their wealth.

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Anyway, governments will not create a law that is against the rich people. Its pure stupidity if they will do it. These rich people are big part of the economy. No country in the world has a law like this. You want a revolution?? Do it yourself

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