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Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 29, 2021, 08:08:13 PM

Rich have too much !!'
Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor

Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor
Time for revolution !!!

Take a history book. (A nice one from amazon)
Open it. (Once you've bought it)
Read it. (Important part)

And at that moment you will realize that this topic requires much more discussion than a "simple" answer from a bitcointalk member. There are people that have died in order to have this (even unhealthy sometimes) capitalization. History has shown that taking wealth from the rich and giving it to the poor has failed. You shouldn't be looking what's the best for the world, but what is not the worst.

There is a system that I consider the "most equal for all", but cannot be implemented since Government won't ever allow it and it goes as following:

You have a steady income. Let's say $2000. At the end of the month, if you haven't spent a penny, Government will take half of what you've left, in this example, $1000. If you don't like that then, spend them. If you spend all the $2000, then it'll tax you $0. This way, the money will circulate which also means healthy capitalization. Money isn't meant to be kept on your closet.

What government does with that money is another discussion which is mostly why this way can't work.

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Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 29, 2021, 08:08:13 PM

Rich have too much !!'
Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor

Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor
Time for revolution !!!

Yeah.. they tried that in Venezuela and look at where they are right now. This strategy could have resulted in limited success a few decades ago. But nowadays it is very easy to move your assets from one country to another and to attain citizenship of smaller island nations where there is no income tax. If the government introduces confiscatory tax policies, then the rich are going to simply migrate to some other country, where the tax rules are more sane. And let's not forget what happened in France after François Hollande introduced the 75% tax for super-rich.

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Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 29, 2021, 08:08:13 PM

Rich have too much !!'
Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor

If this Happens then you can stay LAZY as what you are now and will Just wait for another Rich confiscated asset to be shared for you?
and if there is no rich people then we are all the same ? who will Build your house?

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Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor
Time for revolution !!!

But what i Believe that Richer must cover the taxes of the Poorer , Meaning they will Pay for the taxes that supposedly paid by Poor because they are gaining too small and be taken taxes.

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America is, in principle, a democracy, in which every vote counts the same. It’s also a nation in which income inequality has soared, a development that hurts many more people than it helps. So if you didn’t know better, you might have expected to see a political backlash: demands for higher taxes on the rich, more spending on the working class and higher wages.

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The reason why rich people become rich is luck? Or knowledge?

Both but majority of them because of knowledge and attitude towards their investments and businesses.

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The poor can only fight on their own, and I think they will also improve their lives. There are too many rich people. Is this inflation in various countries?

You should accept it that each country has their own rich people. But many of those rich people also came from nothing to something. It's all about the determination and grind of the people who are not yet rich because that will determine their future.

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Quote from: Quidat on February 03, 2021, 04:34:34 PM

Life is always been unfair where are things things which supposed to be on that manner but due to inequality when it comes to financial state of life then you would really having
more opportunities when you are rich since they are capable of things when it comes to money.Its just sad that opportunities are way more being offered to rich isntea
on poor ones well this is the reality and we don have any choice but to deal with it.Instead of complaining then its better to work hard and smart
so that you would able to enhance yourself in terms of your situation.

As many people as there are, there are so many opinions, and different people have different ideas about justice. Someone is calm and philosophical about social stratification and appalling poverty, someone does not agree with this and some, on the contrary, even try to fight it. Personally, I agree with the view that excessive inequality and abysmal poverty should not be the basis of life in the 21st century, and social Darwinism is just a clumsy attempt to justify the failures of public authorities in social policy.

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Quote from: DrBeer on February 03, 2021, 03:33:39 PM

I want to remind all participants of the topic a historical example:
Once upon a time there existed, albeit not the most powerful, and not the most influential, and even under-empire, called the "Russian Empire". She captured a lot of foreign territories, resources, people. And by a certain moment, when a stratum of the rich was formed, something was built there, the economy worked more or less stably, and then there appeared "revolutionaries" whose idea sounded like this: "take everything from the rich and divide it among the poor" ... As a result, it was built an eternally poor, embittered, wild country called the USSR, which eventually collapsed. This is a historical example that says that one cannot "take away from the rich and divide among the poor", this will not lead to a solution to the problem, but will only aggravate it ...

This is such a good example.

We can take an even broader example. Every single communist and socialist country that ever existed either collapsed in time or made the people miserable, poor and deprived of human rights like North Korea.

Maybe this is why they hate capitalism so much because it works and their system does not.

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Quote from: Janation on February 03, 2021, 12:45:28 AM

Quote from: aysg76 on January 30, 2021, 01:31:08 AM

Quote from: Janation on January 30, 2021, 01:19:56 AM

This is not a good law.

I know that you are just talking about it so you could help those that really need it. The flaw in your proposition is that most of the poor people are not even trying to make a way so that they could be successful one day. If you will just give the poor the money of the rich people, don't you think that it is just unfair and people would just rely on that help?

Exactly, They won't even try to work anymore as they will know they will get money from someone who is working way harder than them.
Eventually, a major population will decide to follow this and at last, there will be no rich left
or
There will be riots as Why a person who has worked hard will give his asset to someone who is not even trying to move his ass.

That is so true.

They are saying that this is unfair but this is also unfair. We can't just use inequality as a solution to inequality itself. What people needs, the poor is the chance, the opportunity for them to rise. And the problem most of the time is that there are a lot of opportunities for a lot of people but they tend to not accept or would not continue.

Life is always been unfair where are things things which supposed to be on that manner but due to inequality when it comes to financial state of life then you would really having
more opportunities when you are rich since they are capable of things when it comes to money.Its just sad that opportunities are way more being offered to rich isntea
on poor ones well this is the reality and we don have any choice but to deal with it.Instead of complaining then its better to work hard and smart
so that you would able to enhance yourself in terms of your situation.

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I want to remind all participants of the topic a historical example:
Once upon a time there existed, albeit not the most powerful, and not the most influential, and even under-empire, called the "Russian Empire". She captured a lot of foreign territories, resources, people. And by a certain moment, when a stratum of the rich was formed, something was built there, the economy worked more or less stably, and then there appeared "revolutionaries" whose idea sounded like this: "take everything from the rich and divide it among the poor" ... As a result, it was built an eternally poor, embittered, wild country called the USSR, which eventually collapsed. This is a historical example that says that one cannot "take away from the rich and divide among the poor", this will not lead to a solution to the problem, but will only aggravate it ...

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Quote from: aysg76 on January 30, 2021, 01:31:08 AM

Quote from: Janation on January 30, 2021, 01:19:56 AM

This is not a good law.

I know that you are just talking about it so you could help those that really need it. The flaw in your proposition is that most of the poor people are not even trying to make a way so that they could be successful one day. If you will just give the poor the money of the rich people, don't you think that it is just unfair and people would just rely on that help?

Exactly, They won't even try to work anymore as they will know they will get money from someone who is working way harder than them.
Eventually, a major population will decide to follow this and at last, there will be no rich left
or
There will be riots as Why a person who has worked hard will give his asset to someone who is not even trying to move his ass.

That is so true.

They are saying that this is unfair but this is also unfair. We can't just use inequality as a solution to inequality itself. What people needs, the poor is the chance, the opportunity for them to rise. And the problem most of the time is that there are a lot of opportunities for a lot of people but they tend to not accept or would not continue.

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Quote from: desticy on February 02, 2021, 05:48:14 PM

And what is the revolution? The rich get richer not just because they are rich, but because they have more opportunities. But in my opinion, the revolution has already taken place. If you want to get rich you have a lot of opportunities thanks to the Internet. Obviously, if you were not born rich, you will have to make some effort to become one, alas, this is how the system works today. However, it cannot be called unjust, because it exists in existence, and justice is an uncertain thing.

There are just people who cant just accept the reality and would just hope that they would really be getting some assistance or giving out some freebies without doing much work.

On this world there is only rich and poor and to those who are in average. Being rich doesnt mean that those we're given or inheritance and most of them are the fruits of their hardwork

by ways of investment or businesses on what them make rich.Being poor isnt really a reason for you to stop nor just simply rely into others and its better to work hard
for your own success rather than on depending to others.

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And what is the revolution? The rich get richer not just because they are rich, but because they have more opportunities. But in my opinion, the revolution has already taken place. If you want to get rich you have a lot of opportunities thanks to the Internet. Obviously, if you were not born rich, you will have to make some effort to become one, alas, this is how the system works today. However, it cannot be called unjust, because it exists in existence, and justice is an uncertain thing.

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It is highly unlikely that such a rule or program was created because even people who are too rich cannot waste their money quickly, even before their money runs out their financial accounts will have money coming in every day. The rule is just a wish for you to get rich quickly, live rich and poor, there will always be an effort to adjust expenses or about a lifestyle, so that even though you are poor at least you can still cover your living needs with a big effort to keep the lifestyle simple.

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If the money of the rich people will be given to the poor, then this will entail huge conflicts. Also, a bankrupt rich man will be overcome by apathy and progress will slow down, because as everyone knows, if people do not have the right to huge capital, then they stop in the development of their activities and spend everything to the last penny

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Quote from: marcbitcoins on February 01, 2021, 07:40:10 AM

Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 29, 2021, 08:08:13 PM

Rich have too much !!'
Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor

Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor
Time for revolution !!!

I think this is not about creating an anti rich laws but the choices that we have. We have plenty of choices if we want to put work into it, just like I did. I went to college with just a penny, I literally had about 5 shirts to wear. I did it all with student loans, paid it all back also. Saying the poor doesn’t have choices is just making excuses. It’s always easy to come up with excuses on why you can’t do something.

Nicely said!

Socialists want everything to be given to them and they always look at other people and count what others have.

Look at yourselves, put some effort into your work, count your own money and keep your hands out of other people's pockets!

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Income inequality has been a problem of the world for decades now, but the scary part is that it is getting worse and worse every single day, one of the main reasons for this is the fact that huge corporations are not allowed to bankrupt.

If a company is doing great they are doing great and nobody does anything about it, even the poor people are fine with that because if you manage a company and make profit that is your right, however there are 3 main things that really screws over the world that poor people should be against.

The first one is those huge billion dollar corporations paying the absolute minimum for workers, amazon is one of the biggest companies in the whole world, yet their workers need food stamps to survive, that type of slave labor should stop.

Secondly when they do not make too much money, they get tax breaks and not pay taxes, they should pay even more taxes instead and us poor people should get tax breaks instead. Lastly when they bankrupt, they get bailed out, if a company bankrupts they should bankrupt.

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Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 29, 2021, 08:08:13 PM

Rich have too much !!'
Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor

Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor
Time for revolution !!!

How do you say that there should be a law that takes wealth away from people when they don’t use it for a long time? If it’s going to be like that then I guess we all are definitely losing our money, even you, because we all have money that we keep as savings which we don’t touch at all, the money will be taken if there are laws as such.

When you happen to be in situations where you will be needing money from your savings you wouldn’t have anything to save yourself from it. For me I would say that people should be encouraged to help others in the society who are poor, and there should be more jobs being created and every job should be well paying.

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Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 29, 2021, 08:08:13 PM

Rich have too much !!'
Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor

Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor
Time for revolution !!!

Unfortunately you are right and we are now seeing probably the peak of capitalism and possibly its last days. In light of the recent events around GameStop, we can say that a confrontation has begun, which will definitely affect each of us. What will happen to the rich? Probably their wealth will change hands and this is not the first time this has happened. Apparently, the system has outlived its usefulness and we are on the verge of great financial turmoil, but unfortunately this does not mean that there will be fewer poor people, but each of them will have the opportunity to try to break out of this circle of poverty.

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Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 29, 2021, 08:08:13 PM

Rich have too much !!'
Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor

Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor
Time for revolution !!!

While I do think that rich people are getting richer by today's standards, implementing a law that will just donate cash to the poor will be detrimental in the long-run.

What is essential is the creation of job opportunities and access of education to the poor. In addition, healthcare services should also be free to the people which should be coming from the taxes. In a progressive tax system, those who have more should contribute more to the government but its revenue must be maximized in order to see the effects of it to the below-average earner.

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There's no easy path to greater things. If you are born poor, no one blames you. You need to work hard if you want something. The idea of the author of this thread is kind of absurd because it's like pushing poor people more not to work on their current status since they will be provided with things that they need. Rich people are not unfair, they did all their best to put themselves in that position and we are to do the same.

Quote from: Jesabela04 on February 01, 2021, 11:06:49 AM

Life is hard but we should persevere harder.

This may be true, but in order for us to not be burnt out by working endlessly, we also need to work smart.

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