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February 23, 2021, 08:07:35 AM
If you are too rich and share with the poor or needy, it has become an obligation and it is taught in religion so that the wealth you have becomes a blessing and must be based on sincerity and awareness without having to be forced or taken away.
They have wealth because of hard work and of course through the difficulties and losses they faced before because they did not give up and worked hard, eventually bearing fruit that made them rich.
and any established and mandatory income or property taxes that the government has imposed in each country.
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February 23, 2021, 07:40:12 AM
I believe that almost all of us could be classified as rich people, but due to our inexperience, greed or mistrust, some of us have lost this opportunity. In the cryptocurrency market over the past few years, there have been a huge number of opportunities to profitably invest in Bitcoin or Ethereum and become a really very rich person today. Based on this, I believe that a rich person, in most cases, became rich because they are able to make the right decisions and know how to make money.
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February 21, 2021, 12:21:00 PM
Rich have too much is the reality because there are some factor works. These factors are rich already knew well how can they gain and what strategy. And the other is they already engage the maximum way which can be interested in others. They use ordinary people's merit and labor to get more profit by giving low salaries. Maximum of them use dishonest mentality to fix own position. So they are eligible for more money.
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February 21, 2021, 09:41:46 AM
Rich have too much !!'
Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor

Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor
Time for revolution !!!

How will you take my Bitcoin or Monero?  You cant. Even if you make law I will just move to place where this silly law dont exist so as anyone else and only poor people will stay and make your country infrastructure even poorer.
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February 21, 2021, 06:02:09 AM
It is normal law of nature that things exist in contrasting pairs, bringing balance.

- Night  & Day
- Boy & Girl
- Up & Down
- Left & Right
- Back & front
- Rich and poor.

In short, my point is, it is not the matter of taking from the rich to give to the poor, poverty in the society cannot be completely eradicated. More money to someone who has less is not the solution to financial problems, the solution is financial education, information and enlightenment. If you give a huge sum of money to someone without financial intelligence, they will end up more in debt.

BALANCE is the right word, but the balance in rich and poor right now is not right. The gap between them is too high that leaves people in the very poor to barely makes a day everyday in a whole year. And that is not because of financial education, but because the money they have is already maxed out to be spend for their family to eat.

Financial education is only applicable for peoples who can have savings and make this savings into fine investments, but what we are talking about are those VERY POOR persons who really does have barely that they can't even eat twice per day.
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February 21, 2021, 02:05:41 AM
It is normal law of nature that things exist in contrasting pairs, bringing balance.

- Night  & Day
- Boy & Girl
- Up & Down
- Left & Right
- Back & front
- Rich and poor.

In short, my point is, it is not the matter of taking from the rich to give to the poor, poverty in the society cannot be completely eradicated. More money to someone who has less is not the solution to financial problems, the solution is financial education, information and enlightenment. If you give a huge sum of money to someone without financial intelligence, they will end up more in debt.
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February 21, 2021, 01:11:07 AM
The meaning of the topic is not a bit about taxes. It meant that you should force rich people to "share" their money with the poor. Taxes are a little different. Taxes form budgets that provide social security and other "services" that the state provides, including you. Taxes are PENSIONS, taxes are social assistance, taxes are medicine, and much more. When you retire, you will receive it from taxes that others pay. This is normal practice. But just take your money from your wallet and give it to a lumpenized citizen who simply does not want to work but wants to live well - this is not acceptable, I completely agree here. The principle is simple - if you are not a person with disabilities - WORK! No education - there is a lot of work that does not require higher education or specialized knowledge!
Well, I do agree with you to a degree but that is just an ignorant point of view when you consider how little amount of work available for everyone. Just to make it clear I mean that people who go to college and get a degree fails to find any job in their own place about their own job, most of the time they either go to another career or they just switch places and relocate, and even when they complain about it, they are told "well you shouldn't studied social studies in that case and get a stem degree!!!", why? Why shouldn't they study social studies? What is wrong with psychology? Or art history? They are all very valuable and these people finished colleges for that topic, they should find a job.

On the other side we do not have enough work available for everyone living in all nations, even if every single job was filled and no company was looking for a new worker, there will be unemployed people. So long story short it is not always about "people who want to not work" it is about people who can't find work.
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February 21, 2021, 12:06:30 AM
Rich have too much !!'
Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor

Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor
Time for revolution !!!

What kind of revolution you are calling? you mean socialism where all people are equal and the states owns everything and they will just distribute equally, you know that this kind of scenario is not going to work, so many socialist country are falling apart because they cannot sustain the needs of their people, if you want this way better go to North Korea, where the living condition is like that.
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February 20, 2021, 08:53:10 PM
That's already happening. I am paying around 35% of my salary as tax, while some of my poor neighbors don't pay any tax at all. On the other hand, I am not eligible for any welfare handouts from the government, while the non-tax paying neighbors are automatically eligible. I hardly get anything in return for the taxes I pay. This is how the system works. And in the end, the welfare rats always cry that the rich are not helping them.
... Taxes are a little different. Taxes form budgets that provide social security and other "services" that the state provides, including you. ...

Taxes are implemented as a distribution of wealth -- people with more are forced by threat of violence to give money to people with less. You can't deny it. You are trying to obscure that fact by showing how some people benefit from it and by saying that people get some of there taxes back in benefits.

I give as much as I can to charities in order to keep it away from the government. If I am forced to give my money away, then at least I can decide where it goes  by giving it to charities.
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February 20, 2021, 08:03:12 PM
Rich should give money to poor? That's how it should be but that is never going to happen. One thing if ever I believe should happen is, there should be highest tax on the biggest earners and lowest possible tax on the lower earning people which ultimately helps the poor earn more and cuts of some extra from the rich and serves the same purpose as rich giving to the poor, indirectly.

That's already happening. I am paying around 35% of my salary as tax, while some of my poor neighbors don't pay any tax at all. On the other hand, I am not eligible for any welfare handouts from the government, while the non-tax paying neighbors are automatically eligible. I hardly get anything in return for the taxes I pay. This is how the system works. And in the end, the welfare rats always cry that the rich are not helping them.

The meaning of the topic is not a bit about taxes. It meant that you should force rich people to "share" their money with the poor. Taxes are a little different. Taxes form budgets that provide social security and other "services" that the state provides, including you. Taxes are PENSIONS, taxes are social assistance, taxes are medicine, and much more. When you retire, you will receive it from taxes that others pay. This is normal practice. But just take your money from your wallet and give it to a lumpenized citizen who simply does not want to work but wants to live well - this is not acceptable, I completely agree here. The principle is simple - if you are not a person with disabilities - WORK! No education - there is a lot of work that does not require higher education or specialized knowledge!

Your thoughts have ups and downs. Yes, I agree that it is not acceptable for those lazy-ass to just sit tight, and wait for money to come by their way, only for them to spend it to beers and any other things unnecessary. BUT, there are other POOR that works really hard, yet barely able to financially buy their needs, and that is in blame of the capitalist system. Privileges are not for everybody, there are people given that since birth, and others just not have it. We can easily say and tell them to FIND SOME WORK, even if you don't have education, but are we really seeing the bigger picture, as we pout this thing indiscriminately?. Cause there are many factors affecting someone to not have a job, not just education!
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February 20, 2021, 04:55:59 AM
Rich should give money to poor? That's how it should be but that is never going to happen. One thing if ever I believe should happen is, there should be highest tax on the biggest earners and lowest possible tax on the lower earning people which ultimately helps the poor earn more and cuts of some extra from the rich and serves the same purpose as rich giving to the poor, indirectly.

That's already happening. I am paying around 35% of my salary as tax, while some of my poor neighbors don't pay any tax at all. On the other hand, I am not eligible for any welfare handouts from the government, while the non-tax paying neighbors are automatically eligible. I hardly get anything in return for the taxes I pay. This is how the system works. And in the end, the welfare rats always cry that the rich are not helping them.

The meaning of the topic is not a bit about taxes. It meant that you should force rich people to "share" their money with the poor. Taxes are a little different. Taxes form budgets that provide social security and other "services" that the state provides, including you. Taxes are PENSIONS, taxes are social assistance, taxes are medicine, and much more. When you retire, you will receive it from taxes that others pay. This is normal practice. But just take your money from your wallet and give it to a lumpenized citizen who simply does not want to work but wants to live well - this is not acceptable, I completely agree here. The principle is simple - if you are not a person with disabilities - WORK! No education - there is a lot of work that does not require higher education or specialized knowledge!
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February 20, 2021, 02:14:52 AM
Rich should give money to poor? That's how it should be but that is never going to happen. One thing if ever I believe should happen is, there should be highest tax on the biggest earners and lowest possible tax on the lower earning people which ultimately helps the poor earn more and cuts of some extra from the rich and serves the same purpose as rich giving to the poor, indirectly.

That's already happening. I am paying around 35% of my salary as tax, while some of my poor neighbors don't pay any tax at all. On the other hand, I am not eligible for any welfare handouts from the government, while the non-tax paying neighbors are automatically eligible. I hardly get anything in return for the taxes I pay. This is how the system works. And in the end, the welfare rats always cry that the rich are not helping them.

Same here in our country, poor people complain more than those who pays tax. They get angry because they are not treated properly. They get government's assistance without doing anything in their life. Some of my neighbors here just gamble for the whole day not thinking of their future. Rich people got to that place because they worked for it. Even if we say they just inherited from their parents.
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February 20, 2021, 01:31:41 AM
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Rich have too much !!'
Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor

Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor
Time for revolution !!!
Yes, rich have too much because they always invest their money wisely.
 Even though the government put the law in place that such money should be giving to poor, it will not change the economy challenges of the country. The poor will not still value the position given to them if such decision is taken, because they are not use to such offer, so they will still miss use it. 
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February 19, 2021, 09:30:10 PM
From birth, all people have different talents and opportunities. But nevertheless, I agree with you in the aspect that many people do not try to change something around them. But on the other side of the scale, the rich also behave very scrupulously towards all people (not just the poor) According to statistics, 99% of all the wealth of our planet is in the hands of 1% of the rich. Don't you think that's too unfair?

The question should be why the remaining 99% are so poor, and not why the 1% are rich? The difference here is that you want to take away wealth from the super-rich and make them as poor as the others. This is classic socialist thinking, that was implemented in countries such as North Korea and Cuba. You can visit these countries and see the state of their economy. I want to make the remaining 99% as rich as the top 1%. But that should be done by giving them opportunities and enhancing their skill set, and not by giving them handouts. Giving handouts will make people beggars without any self respect and that needs to be avoided.
It seems that people think that robbing from the rich is somehow moral, similar to what we see in the fictional story of Robin Hood, but the moment that comes to pass then what it is the point of becoming a productive member of society when everything you have worked so hard for can be taken away? One of the problems is that most people never see themselves as wealthy, they only think of those that are very rich but in fact if you are middle class then most likely you have a better life than the majority of the people in your country and you will be affected by such policies, unfortunately most people only realize the mistake they made until they have nothing close to the life they had before but by then it is too late to do anything about it.
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February 15, 2021, 01:46:59 PM
Rich should give money to poor? That's how it should be but that is never going to happen. One thing if ever I believe should happen is, there should be highest tax on the biggest earners and lowest possible tax on the lower earning people which ultimately helps the poor earn more and cuts of some extra from the rich and serves the same purpose as rich giving to the poor, indirectly.

That's already happening. I am paying around 35% of my salary as tax, while some of my poor neighbors don't pay any tax at all. On the other hand, I am not eligible for any welfare handouts from the government, while the non-tax paying neighbors are automatically eligible. I hardly get anything in return for the taxes I pay. This is how the system works. And in the end, the welfare rats always cry that the rich are not helping them.
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February 15, 2021, 01:31:05 PM
P.S. I don't know where you're from, but in most countries, 20-40$ daily isn't small money, it's an average or above-average salary.

Here in my area $40 is what most people earn in a single month. And it is even worse in the neighboring countries. If you earn $40 per day, then you will be considered as the most elite among the residents. And since the living expenses are low, the people are able to survive with such small amounts. On the other hand, even if you receive $400 per month in a country such as the United States or Germany, you will be homeless and without food for most of the time.
You know how rich you are should always be evaluated by where you live because if you live in Asia and you are rich enough that shouldn't make you feel poor in comparison to USA or some other rich country. I mean the wages you earn are based on the GDP of your country. Consider how much is the monthly expense of your family and compare it to the rich country like USA it simply means that you are earning lower as compared to them but then things are cheaper too in comparison.

Rich should give money to poor? That's how it should be but that is never going to happen. One thing if ever I believe should happen is, there should be highest tax on the biggest earners and lowest possible tax on the lower earning people which ultimately helps the poor earn more and cuts of some extra from the rich and serves the same purpose as rich giving to the poor, indirectly.
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February 15, 2021, 12:49:53 PM
The main reason why they have too much because they are smart enough. If you are poor its your problem
It's not always like that, many people, as I mentioned before, are born with wealth already and it doesn't make them smart, they only have to be smart enough to not lose it all (and not everyone is). Also, some people aren't born in super-rich families, but they're born in countries with better economic development with more opportunities. For instance, I'm not from EU countries or the US, so I had to work really hard on my English and on my performance at the university just to get out of this hole. People from developed countries don't have to do that and they can start building their career right away, even from high school, it's much easier for them to get accepted to local universities or get hired.

Also, it is well-known, that upper-class people can afford better studying, hire private teachers, which proves to be effective, I had none of that and had to study everything on my own. Henceforth, it's not always someone's fault that he/she is poor, because that person might be just born in a worse condition than others. Sure, if you really want to and work hard - you'll get what you want, but not many people are capable of constantly working hard and not going nuts at the same time  Cheesy
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February 15, 2021, 11:12:37 AM
The main reason why they have too much because they are smart enough. If you are poor its your problem
I agree to your point but only upto a certain degree. I have seen smart guys being poor and rich guys being dumb and that is because they were born as such and never had the liberty to do something big despite being more smart and intelligent while on the other hand there are rich guys who have a business setup by their parents and even if they dumb, all they have to do is to collect the revenue.

But yeah most of the guys who are rich are so because they had the ability to make more money with the money they had and those who are poor are so because they never made smart choices. You will notice that rich guys are miser and poor guys are usually more spendthrift, that's why they are rich because they know the value of money.
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February 15, 2021, 03:46:01 AM
The main reason why they have too much because they are smart enough. If you are poor its your problem

I don't think this is fair to say. A lot of people are born into a rich family and will just inherit wealth from their parents and grand parents. It doesn't really has anything to do with being smart or not. Sure there are some people who get rich by themselfs but a majority of rich families have been rich 50 years ago, or even a 100 years ago. Just look at old money vs new money.
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February 15, 2021, 02:45:57 AM
P.S. I don't know where you're from, but in most countries, 20-40$ daily isn't small money, it's an average or above-average salary.

Here in my area $40 is what most people earn in a single month. And it is even worse in the neighboring countries. If you earn $40 per day, then you will be considered as the most elite among the residents. And since the living expenses are low, the people are able to survive with such small amounts. On the other hand, even if you receive $400 per month in a country such as the United States or Germany, you will be homeless and without food for most of the time.
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