Rise of Streamers in Online Gambling - page 16.

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Quote from: Jating on July 28, 2022, 09:16:20 AM

On the other hand this streamers though could be paid so obviously, the results might be rigged so that those watching are going to be attracted. So it's a win-win for this streamers and the casinos or games that they are promoting.

Can there performance really be manipulated by the casino company for a big win so that more viewers are won and signing up with the streamers can increase the numbers of people playing in the casino? Well this is a wide thought but if this is possible to happen it means casino games itself can be manipulated against the gambler.

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Quote from: avikz on July 28, 2022, 11:10:59 AM

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These are used for marketing so that a common viewers gets excited and start playing with them. A simple psychological trick!

You guessed it mate.
I don't think that choosing the marketing path by livestreaming will not hold the suspicion of some viewers, especially from the pov of people who are skeptical of fishy promotions. Sometimes their reactions are exaggerated and the opposite of normal gamblers, I mean they don't seem to feel any remorse even with heavy losses. They really affect the psychology of viewers that defeat is not an excuse to dim the spirit to continue betting.

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Quote from: Wexnident on July 28, 2022, 10:33:26 AM

I wouldn't really question it, the streaming industry just grows continuously imo, not just in terms of viewership in slots but in all aspects of entertainment in general. I think it's something rather natural we'd see, and I think there's still room for growth for it since we'd probably still see development from the streaming industry. Ofc, there's some part that probably wouldn't be accurate, but i think it still speaks of the state that casinos and streaming are in general.

Though tbf, rather than slots as a category it's more closer to a chatting stream imo with the reactions every now and then about the results.

I agree, the streaming industry is growing in the last few years... it's a natural process, and I also think it will continue to grow! Pandemic probably affected the speed of growth, and people were forced to stay at home and the internet was the only source of fun and for many people source of income! That's a great combination for sure, making money and enjoying while you do it, and I guess streaming is all about that... you enjoy doing something while you get paid for that!

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Gambling houses made big money when BTC bubbled and are still making good money today. They want to make sure that they grow their market share from here to really profit from the next cycle. That's leading to increased advertising spending across the board. Most recently, sponsoring youtubers like Stevewilldoit and the Nelk Boys, along with even celebrities like Drake so that they make these videos. I doubt many of the people streaming these gambling sessions are doing so without sponsorships, so this rise shows you just how competitive of a market it is for advertisers.

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The marketing landscape changes from time to time. Few yeard back, we didn't know about Tiktok, Twitch etc. But now they are very much mainstream for marketing almost anything. Streaming is one of such areas which are used heavily for marketing nowadays. There's no surprise!

But if you are seeing these streamers are making a ton of money, that's most probably a got up game. These are used for marketing so that a common viewers gets excited and start playing with them. A simple psychological trick!

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Quote from: Coin_trader on July 28, 2022, 10:52:29 AM

Quote from: X-ray on July 28, 2022, 10:15:26 AM

I have been watching some slot streamers regularly. Just like when i watched xposed. To be honest they were affiliator rather than called all of them as real gamblers. I saw that thousands of people were also watching it for the entertain purpose only. The fact that if they were getting money from anyone who registered through their refferal. I called them all as affiliator. As far i as i know that account that used by strimer was different with the regular gamblers.

It depends on the streamer that you are subscribing. Yes some streamers are using different account for streaming because of the balance they are using is from the casino itself. Most of the negotiation for partnership between streamers and casino is via online so it's safe for both parties to use a dedicated account for streaming that include gambling balance.

Affiliationss or not, this is only based on how you view them. For some users that don't care about affiliate commission, they view streams like this as regular streams.

Yes, they could earn better through the number of views that they could gain through streaming. The number of streamers is continuously rising since we all know that there's a huge opportunity to earn on it. There are lots of gamblers and viewers who find watching gambling streamers entertaining so it's an open opportunity for everyone to stream. They could earn through sponsorships and partnerships which is really a big edge to survive the inflation crisis this year.

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Quote from: X-ray on July 28, 2022, 10:15:26 AM

I have been watching some slot streamers regularly. Just like when i watched xposed. To be honest they were affiliator rather than called all of them as real gamblers. I saw that thousands of people were also watching it for the entertain purpose only. The fact that if they were getting money from anyone who registered through their refferal. I called them all as affiliator. As far i as i know that account that used by strimer was different with the regular gamblers.

It depends on the streamer that you are subscribing. Yes some streamers are using different account for streaming because of the balance they are using is from the casino itself. Most of the negotiation for partnership between streamers and casino is via online so it's safe for both parties to use a dedicated account for streaming that include gambling balance.

Affiliators or not, this is only based on how you view them. For some users that doesn't care about affiliate commission, they view streams like this as regular streams.

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Quote from: Shamm on July 28, 2022, 10:19:35 AM

Quote from: Beparanf on July 28, 2022, 09:15:56 AM

I don't watch any particular streamer for gambling categories because I got bored watching them pull bunch of spin without anything special as result. I just watch the compilation of successful hit on yourube from various livestreamers. The bad thing about this was my suggestion tab is now full by gambling videos. It's crap when someone saw my history and suggested videos. Cheesy

Is there a data that will show if online gambling becomes popular first before streamers started to hype them online. I want to know if online streamers makes the onling gambling trending during pandemic.

Same as you mate actually if watch streams I did not focus on gambling they made but the mage itself just what I want to focus. Maybe during the pandemics streams makes online gambling trend. because during lock down they can not go to face to face gambling so they choose the internet.

I can relate on that during pandemic. We are forced leave on my previous job when pandemic first hit my country. I become more active in online gambling than before because I don't have anything to do in my house. I just realized that Online casino is already popular because there is a lot of gambling videos on youtube which is no there before the pandemic occured.

Right now aside from watching huge jackpot, I’m interested on watching too on biggest live streaming bust. Watching streamers losing huge amount via live sometimes very cool to watch. I used it as warning to myself when gambling huge amount.

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I wouldn't really question it, the streaming industry just grows continuously imo, not just in terms of viewership in slots but in all aspects of entertainment in general. I think it's something rather natural we'd see, and I think there's still room for growth for it since we'd probably still see development from the streaming industry. Ofc, there's some part that probably wouldn't be accurate, but i think it still speaks of the state that casinos and streaming are in general.

Though tbf, rather than slots as a category it's more closer to a chatting stream imo with the reactions every now and then about the results.

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It seems gambling sites found this also profitable. An average streamer can have a thousand viewers at a time easy. Casinos can easily get exposure just giving a streamer a sponsorship. And as most viewers are gullible, they can have new members if these streamers net big wins on their casinos. A very profitable business model. And we may see more of them in the future.

Quote from: X-ray on July 28, 2022, 10:15:26 AM

I have been watching some slot streamers regularly. Just like when i watched xposed. To be honest they were affiliator rather than called all of them as real gamblers. I saw that thousands of people were also watching it for the entertain purpose only. The fact that if they were getting money from anyone who registered through their refferal. I called them all as affiliator. As far i as i know that account that used by strimer was different with the regular gamblers.

That is where the bulk of their income comes from. They cannot rely on payment from hours view to survive. Sponsorship and affiliation give them more money than they can earn from views.

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Quote from: Beparanf on July 28, 2022, 09:15:56 AM

I don't watch any particular streamer for gambling categories because I got bored watching them pull bunch of spin without anything special as result. I just watch the compilation of successful hit on yourube from various livestreamers. The bad thing about this was my suggestion tab is now full by gambling videos. It's crap when someone saw my history and suggested videos. Cheesy

Is there a data that will show if online gambling becomes popular first before streamers started to hype them online. I want to know if online streamers makes the onling gambling trending during pandemic.

Same as you mate actually if watch streams I did not focus on gambling they made but the mage itself just what I want to focus. Maybe during the pandemics streams makes online gambling trend. because during lock down they can not go to face to face gambling so they choose the internet.

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Quote from: Jating on July 28, 2022, 09:16:20 AM

On the other hand this streamers though could be paid so obviously, the results might be rigged so that those watching are going to be attracted. So it's a win-win for this streamers and the casinos or games that they are promoting.

These streamers serve as Brand Ambassadors or Slot Ambassadors, some of them are paid to stream so that viewers are interested in the games being played. I've watched some streaming videos with big wins, then I think every time I watch streaming videos. why every time they stream they always get a big win, the question keeps popping up in my mind, because luck isn't always on the same person's side, so I tried to play slots on the same site, but the results were very disappointing.
Manipulation can be done on the slot that is being played, because the system can be set at any time by the owner of the slot.

Although I don't have enough knowledge about slot technicalities but slot games is under3rd party provider which means casino has no control on the result except if they request for a special slot software that is rigged but most of the streamers that usually hit jackpot are burning huge amount of money to bet multiple times just to hit the jackpot. They have huge bankroll to bet many times compared to normal players that has limited bankroll.

Not all streamers is sponsored because many of them are just streaming for views or referral commission earnings from there viewers. Only big time streamers is sponsored while the rest is just getting profit on streaming alone.

Yes bigtime streamers got this kind of start in order to win and have extra money but not all streamers do this because some of them are they got paid by the viewers and followers .

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Quote from: Boristhecat on July 28, 2022, 09:40:46 AM

I don't really trust these stats

On this point, the "other games section" seems quite big as well as the lack of indication as to what happens if multiple tags are put on a stream or if the streamer changes game part way through.

Quote from: bittraffic on July 28, 2022, 09:15:53 AM

Slot is easy to play and addicting, thats why its among the top. Grand thef I can understand since its fun, teens like it.

It normally has the highest edge too (favouring the casino) as well as being fairly fast paced and needing fewer resources to run (especially compared with things like live tables).

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I have been watching some slot streamers regularly. Just like when i watched xposed. To be honest they were affiliator rather than called all of them as real gamblers. I saw that thousands of people were also watching it for the entertain purpose only. The fact that if they were getting money from anyone who registered through their refferal. I called them all as affiliator. As far i as i know that account that used by strimer was different with the regular gamblers.

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Quote from: Beparanf on July 28, 2022, 09:15:56 AM

I don't watch any particular streamer for gambling categories because I got bored watching them pull bunch of spin without anything special as result. I just watch the compilation of successful hit on yourube from various livestreamers. The bad thing about this was my suggestion tab is now full by gambling videos. It's crap when someone saw my history and suggested videos. Cheesy

Lol, that is the problem with Youtube, once you browse a single category, it will suggest several channels in that category. Anyway, I also like watching compilation of Big wins in gambling on YT, but I found
WatchGamesTV gambling videos very entertaining especially his reaction when his buy-in stunt doesn't go well.

Quote from: Jating on July 28, 2022, 09:16:20 AM

I will agree though, specially those streamers that shows very huge win, in the millions of dollars that maybe some will go and try it for themselves and see how their luck will be.

Indeed it is very enticing to try the game when we watched a huge win on that kind of slot.

Quote from: Jating on July 28, 2022, 09:16:20 AM

On the other hand this streamers though could be paid so obviously, the results might be rigged so that those watching are going to be attracted. So it's a win-win for this streamers and the casinos or games that they are promoting.

I wonder how can a casino rig the slot game while someone is conducting a promotional stream since the stream and casino operation is simultaneous if the Casino rigged the game in favor of the streamer then all the players playing that same game would have the advantage during the stream and might cause millions of losses to the casino.

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Quote from: arimamib on July 28, 2022, 09:52:54 AM

Quote from: Jating on July 28, 2022, 09:16:20 AM

On the other hand this streamers though could be paid so obviously, the results might be rigged so that those watching are going to be attracted. So it's a win-win for this streamers and the casinos or games that they are promoting.

These streamers serve as Brand Ambassadors or Slot Ambassadors, some of them are paid to stream so that viewers are interested in the games being played. I've watched some streaming videos with big wins, then I think every time I watch streaming videos. why every time they stream they always get a big win, the question keeps popping up in my mind, because luck isn't always on the same person's side, so I tried to play slots on the same site, but the results were very disappointing.
Manipulation can be done on the slot that is being played, because the system can be set at any time by the owner of the slot.

Although I don't have enough knowledge about slot technicalities but slot games is under3rd party provider which means casino has no control on the result except if they request for a special slot software that is rigged but most of the streamers that usually hit jackpot are burning huge amount of money to bet multiple times just to hit the jackpot. They have huge bankroll to bet many times compared to normal players that has limited bankroll.

Not all streamers is sponsored because many of them are just streaming for views or referral commission earnings from there viewers. Only big time streamers is sponsored while the rest is just getting profit on streaming alone.

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Quote from: Jating on July 28, 2022, 09:16:20 AM

On the other hand this streamers though could be paid so obviously, the results might be rigged so that those watching are going to be attracted. So it's a win-win for this streamers and the casinos or games that they are promoting.

These streamers serve as Brand Ambassadors or Slot Ambassadors, some of them are paid to stream so that viewers are interested in the games being played. I've watched some streaming videos with big wins, then I think every time I watch streaming videos. why every time they stream they always get a big win, the question keeps popping up in my mind, because luck isn't always on the same person's side, so I tried to play slots on the same site, but the results were very disappointing.
Manipulation can be done on the slot that is being played, because the system can be set at any time by the owner of the slot.

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Quote from: jhonjhon on July 28, 2022, 09:37:52 AM

Although many streamers do it for fun or when they're bored, they unintentionally attract a lot of attention and end up getting paid for their efforts. The game indeed motivates you to play it since I've seen streamers play and it seems like even if that was their first time, they had a lot of luck. However, other players struggle to complete their goals, but it's great as long as they are having fun.

If money is not involved, people that stream for just fun will reduce, even if not to zero, streamers can not just be streaming and devote that much time for nothing in return. Streamers see it as a means to make money, we should not just neglect that fact. Some streams are streaming just for the purpose to get more views and they also earn money in the process, but such streamsers will also still accept offers from casinos and earn more money. Just let us take it like this, what will be the reason why a streamer should not accept such offer when they are even streaming for money.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on July 28, 2022, 08:58:19 AM

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As you notice in the chart, Slots Channel got more viewers than other famous games such as Fortnite and CS:GO. This starts during pandemic which many streamers shift from online gaming to the onlime gambling category.

Many famous Casino is now doing partnership on different streamers. So in conclusion, Streamers contributes a lot on the increase of popularity of online gambling.

Chart Source: Twitchtracker.com

I don't really trust these stats, especially since I've been browsing the various channels on Twitch lately and noticed that slots are one of the favorite categories of streamers from the "just chatting" section. Basically, these are beautiful girls who lead their streams with clear goals (to increase their audience for other social networks, including paid ones, if you know what I mean). One of the easiest ways to create content for them is to play slots, which they do from time to time. I think most of the audience in this case looks not at the slots but at the girl.

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Although many streamers do it for fun or when they're bored, they unintentionally attract a lot of attention and end up getting paid for their efforts. The game indeed motivates you to play it since I've seen streamers play and it seems like even if that was their first time, they had a lot of luck. However, other players struggle to complete their goals, but it's great as long as they are having fun.

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I will agree though, specially those streamers that shows very huge win, in the millions of dollars that maybe some will go and try it for themselves and see how their luck will be.

On the other hand this streamers though could be paid so obviously, the results might be rigged so that those watching are going to be attracted. So it's a win-win for this streamers and the casinos or games that they are promoting.

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