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Topic: Rollbit.com scamming $10,000 USD [Careful not to bet in their casino!] ❗ (Read 2200 times)

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No I’m not the OP, and yes people don’t have to agree but I find it distasteful when someone like you baselessly defends a casino, one that’s whole identity is based off being in a country where legally they can do anything and face no repercussions. Especially considering you just went with whatever the casino said thinking they don’t need to prove anything.

they don't have to prove anything. and you know that. we all know that. i don't think this whole situation is something that any sportsbook/casino would just go into all the details in any type of public forum at any rate...sorry to the OP for his loss. hope he recovered.
newbie
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Oh man, I don’t use bitcoin talk or rollbit anymore and this thread is ridiculously old but I had to make an account to reply to you.

wait, are you the OP or who are you exactly?

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You have such a narrow delusional view of this situation that happened. Chances are this “shady crypto casino” operated in Curaçao scammed the dude, and if they didn’t all they would have needed to do was post proof that OP did in fact abuse or cheat in someway, instead they replied with some shallow response. I don’t know why you think it’s okay for a casino to confiscate someone’s money and provide absolutely no proof. You can victim blame all you want but if Rollbit wasn’t operated in some shithole with no laws and no courts that would even be able to rectify a situation like this Rollbit would be shut down. I think the fact that you can access their site from banned countries where it is illegal to play simply by clicking the X button on a pop up stating that you’re from a jurisdiction that does not allow rollbit shows enough about their business practices. A casino operating with next to no laws should not be defended the way you did without providing proof of OP’s actions, and no normal casino confiscates funds like this. Simple google search will show you how many problems people have with the site. You obviously have no understanding on how shady and scummy these online crypto casinos based out of Curaçao are. If he truly abused and cheated and has been warned Rollbit would have provided proof and not ignored the thread after some half assed reply.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbitcom-cryptos-most-rewarding-casino-5326640

take a look at that thread. it has 300 pages now. i don't see anyone in there with the same type of complaints. but again, i just looked at the latest few pages. never the less, he brought the issue to a public forum what did you expect? everyone to agree with him?

No I’m not the OP, and yes people don’t have to agree but I find it distasteful when someone like you baselessly defends a casino, one that’s whole identity is based off being in a country where legally they can do anything and face no repercussions. Especially considering you just went with whatever the casino said thinking they don’t need to prove anything.
sr. member
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Oh man, I don’t use bitcoin talk or rollbit anymore and this thread is ridiculously old but I had to make an account to reply to you.

wait, are you the OP or who are you exactly?

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You have such a narrow delusional view of this situation that happened. Chances are this “shady crypto casino” operated in Curaçao scammed the dude, and if they didn’t all they would have needed to do was post proof that OP did in fact abuse or cheat in someway, instead they replied with some shallow response. I don’t know why you think it’s okay for a casino to confiscate someone’s money and provide absolutely no proof. You can victim blame all you want but if Rollbit wasn’t operated in some shithole with no laws and no courts that would even be able to rectify a situation like this Rollbit would be shut down. I think the fact that you can access their site from banned countries where it is illegal to play simply by clicking the X button on a pop up stating that you’re from a jurisdiction that does not allow rollbit shows enough about their business practices. A casino operating with next to no laws should not be defended the way you did without providing proof of OP’s actions, and no normal casino confiscates funds like this. Simple google search will show you how many problems people have with the site. You obviously have no understanding on how shady and scummy these online crypto casinos based out of Curaçao are. If he truly abused and cheated and has been warned Rollbit would have provided proof and not ignored the thread after some half assed reply.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbitcom-cryptos-most-rewarding-casino-5326640

take a look at that thread. it has 300 pages now. i don't see anyone in there with the same type of complaints. but again, i just looked at the latest few pages. never the less, he brought the issue to a public forum what did you expect? everyone to agree with him?
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of course. I didn't mean to suggest that the casino stole anything from the player. quite the contrary. i think they didn't do anything wrong at all. and were the victim. just my opinion based on what i've read.


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Oh man, I don’t use bitcoin talk or rollbit anymore and this thread is ridiculously old but I had to make an account to reply to you. You have such a narrow delusional view of this situation that happened. Chances are this “shady crypto casino” operated in Curaçao scammed the dude, and if they didn’t all they would have needed to do was post proof that OP did in fact abuse or cheat in someway, instead they replied with some shallow response. I don’t know why you think it’s okay for a casino to confiscate someone’s money and provide absolutely no proof. You can victim blame all you want but if Rollbit wasn’t operated in some shithole with no laws and no courts that would even be able to rectify a situation like this Rollbit would be shut down. I think the fact that you can access their site from banned countries where it is illegal to play simply by clicking the X button on a pop up stating that you’re from a jurisdiction that does not allow rollbit shows enough about their business practices. A casino operating with next to no laws should not be defended the way you did without providing proof of OP’s actions, and no normal casino confiscates funds like this. Simple google search will show you how many problems people have with the site. You obviously have no understanding on how shady and scummy these online crypto casinos based out of Curaçao are. If he truly abused and cheated and has been warned Rollbit would have provided proof and not ignored the thread after some half assed reply.
sr. member
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I believe that OP did not get his money back too, any of it, but to make things more clear and for added context, that's not because Rollbit "stole" from OP, it's "confiscated" to cover some loss that the casino experienced from OP's multiple abuses with previous account.


of course. I didn't mean to suggest that the casino stole anything from the player. quite the contrary. i think they didn't do anything wrong at all. and were the victim. just my opinion based on what i've read.

legendary
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Yes, I'm an asshole
Can we get an update as I'm going thru a similar experience

Here is your update:

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my guess is he didn't get any money back. but i don't think he'll be back here to provide any further updates.

I am not familiar with this case as I did not oversee it the entire time it happened, but I took a quick stroll on the 6 pages it has and it is worth to point out this part of Razer's explanation,

[...]
This was not the case here, you opened multiple accounts with the sole purpose of abusing our sportsbook, something you were warned previously for.

Following previous warnings, you were permitted or already did withdraw all of your funds.

It's worth noting for the other participants of this thread, this is most definitely not an action we profit from. It's more recouping losses, as we've already lost a significant amount of value through this type of abuse.

I believe that OP did not get his money back too, any of it, but to make things more clear and for added context, that's not because Rollbit "stole" from OP, it's "confiscated" to cover some loss that the casino experienced from OP's multiple abuses with previous account.

And jelvis, as I previously stated, if you have a legit situation with Rollbit it'll be better if you create your own thread. You'll get a higher chance of resolution by doing so [and supplementing that thread with adequate proof] instead of bumping old thread.
sr. member
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Can we get an update as I'm going thru a similar experience

Here is your update:

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my guess is he didn't get any money back. but i don't think he'll be back here to provide any further updates.


legendary
Activity: 2730
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Yes, I'm an asshole
Can we get an update as I'm going thru a similar experience

You are more than welcome to create your own thread. It'll be better and more ideal solution for you as the discussion will be more focused into your specific situation. Please provide supporting evidence and make it in the format as suggested by the forum, it'll help readers to get a quick summary of your situation and navigate through it.
newbie
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Can we get an update as I'm going thru a similar experience
sr. member
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The sheet amount of apologists and users protecting Rollbit is proof that this community advertises casinos with completely fluid ToCs that change to our get interpreted to deadlock and user it disagrees 
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No one here would've ever given you a fair chance at your base because they're all in on it.
well, did the OP do anything? he never updated the thread which makes me think he never got his money back. the way he sounded though he was going to follow through and get it back somehow even if it involved legal actions. but i guess talk is cheap.

Put your money where your mouth is but i don't know too many lawyers who would be interested in helping someone get their $10,000 back. it's almost not even worth it for them. that's just the reality in alot of places.
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The sheet amount of apologists and users protecting Rollbit is proof that this community advertises casinos with completely fluid ToCs that change to our get interpreted to deadlock and user it disagrees 

How this isn't completely illegal you only have to look at the actions, not intent, which would never hold up in any country with property laws, which explains why these casinos get licensed by a scam company and lost their addresses as shacks in the third world.

Fact one:  Customer read ToC and inquired with casino staff that his activity board no terms or conditions. This is regardless regarding prior  actions, as the request was explicitly addressed to casino staff and Rollbits own FAQ specifically allows multi account use as long as bonus fraud or referral fraud aren't involved, which they weren't.

Fact two: customer deposits $10000 into new account, and ONLY DEPOSITS, as the account ban and funds seizure occur immediately after the deposit. Rollbit did no such inquiry or request for documents, customer placed absolutely no wager, casino, trading, or sports betting. Rollbit is in abaolutely no contract right to do anything until customer violated ToC, which he couldn't do because action was impossible at this point.

Instead, Rollbit arbitrarily decided not only to ban him to prevent showing past b ownership of property, doesn't tally past bets and accounts an actual sum of illicit wages, and decides to simply take his funds with no due process, evidence, or cited violations? Like any legal company would HAVE to do to CYA from fraud or racketeering allegations.

OP, I'm sorry this board that used to be respected and valued decided didn't you for accusing one of their own, and Razor is a known scammer, evidenced clear as day with a simple Google search.

To be honest, customers can no longer rely on communities such as these because they become blinded and incensed by their own perform motives and lack of any moral or legal standing. Once the signature campaigns took off for casinos, this whole piece has corrupted into a trap for unknowing customers looking for something that is not available legally usually in their own countries because of the unenforceability of crypto transactions.  No one here would've ever given you a fair chance at your base because they're all in on it.

sr. member
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I am disagreeing, look, if you would've lost money at their sportsbook they wouldve return the loss? Neah, they care only when you are in profit.

but the point is they never even allowed him to place a single wager using his $10,000 deposit. if they had wanted to, they could have only frozen his funds when he won. and gave him the chance to place some losing bets where they would have said nothing. that didn't happen though...
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Why it does matter? It's his money or what, it's a breach of ToS only when you win?

It matters because if he was abusing the sportsbook and made more money off them than $10,000 then he probably is not entitled to any of it back. That's just my opinion. You can feel free and disagree.

I am disagreeing, look, if you would've lost money at their sportsbook they wouldve return the loss? Neah, they care only when you are in profit.
sr. member
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Why it does matter? It's his money or what, it's a breach of ToS only when you win?

It matters because if he was abusing the sportsbook and made more money off them than $10,000 then he probably is not entitled to any of it back. That's just my opinion. You can feel free and disagree.
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Rollbit still no answer so far. Not caring at all.

Please stay away from this site!



so you made more than $10,000 or less than $10,000 in profit off of them before they withheld your deposit? more or less? easy to answer.

it's really not an irrelevant question...

Why it does matter? It's his money or what, it's a breach of ToS only when you win?
sr. member
Activity: 1190
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Rollbit still no answer so far. Not caring at all.

Please stay away from this site!



so you made more than $10,000 or less than $10,000 in profit off of them before they withheld your deposit? more or less? easy to answer.

it's really not an irrelevant question...
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Web3 is the future.
Rollbit still no answer so far. Not caring at all.

Please stay away from this site!
sr. member
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Trust pilot is kind of a dumpster fire when it comes to using it to judge online casinos.

Players lose their money and leave bad reviews because they are mad they lost or didn't get some hand out they wanted.
Casinos give incentives to leave good reviews.

I'd be surprised if more than 5 or 10% of reviews do not fall into one of these two categories.


I mean you seem to know what you're talking about. nice to see.
legendary
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Just a friendly reminder for everyone that those blokes still failed to respond to a single question that were asked here by multiple people + still didnt bother to post any proof of their allegations. (While being super detailed on other cases here in the forum, kinda weird..)

Please stay away from this site!



We appreciate you bringing these issues forward but we must add further context that you failed to mention.

This was not your first account on Rollbit, you've had numerous accounts limited & banned.

Each time, sufficient warnings were given to ensure you understood that future accounts would be actioned and we'd seek to recoup loses from such abuse.

As you correctly identified, we're generally fine with folks having alternative accounts as long as they're not being utilised for nefarious purposes.

This was not the case here, you opened multiple accounts with the sole purpose of abusing our sportsbook, something you were warned previously for.

Following previous warnings, you were permitted or already did withdraw all of your funds.

It's worth noting for the other participants of this thread, this is most definitely not an action we profit from. It's more recouping losses, as we've already lost a significant amount of value through this type of abuse.







Please stay away from this site!

your warning is not likely to be heeded or even noticed. just take a look at their trustpilot to see what I mean. plenty of low reviews but people still keep gambling there. APPARENTLY.

people with common sense would have read the reviews on trustpilot before depositing a single satoshi. if you're ok with everything you read there then by all means do whatever you want to.  Grin





Trust pilot is kind of a dumpster fire when it comes to using it to judge online casinos.

Players lose their money and leave bad reviews because they are mad they lost or didn't get some hand out they wanted.
Casinos give incentives to leave good reviews.

I'd be surprised if more than 5 or 10% of reviews do not fall into one of these two categories.

sr. member
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Please stay away from this site!

your warning is not likely to be heeded or even noticed. just take a look at their trustpilot to see what I mean. plenty of low reviews but people still keep gambling there. APPARENTLY.

people with common sense would have read the reviews on trustpilot before depositing a single satoshi. if you're ok with everything you read there then by all means do whatever you want to.  Grin


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