Topic: Rollbit.com scamming $10,000 USD [Careful not to bet in their casino!] ❗ - page 3. (Read 2183 times)

Well yea thats what i expect from someone who is so engaged in a discussion.



You dont have to read my mind, just the thread... But yea as you just said, i shouldnt expect this from you. Much better to just throw random questions out in an attempt to make someone look sus, instead of reading the thread carefully. 

so you expect people to remember every little thing you said throughout your many postings here when a single initial posting could have sufficed had you been organized and put all the information in its full completeness right in that one posting. i did my best to try and understand your situation but you still left some questions unanswered primarily why you would not have talked to them yourself first and explained why you were opening another account after your other one(s) got limited. to me that seems like a prudent thing to do so that you don't end up well, in the situation you are now!


i have no idea how their site works i thought maybe you can be anonymous and use their services. give me a break. not everyone can read your mind.

i'm not the only one. other people have pointed out where and how you went wrong potentially but you just kept on trucking...

 i dont have any sympathy for people that try and scam sportsbooks nor do i have any for sportsbooks that try and scam innocent people. hows that?

You are just trying to turn and twist everything against me. Plus you just completely ignore things already discussed in this thread, but im really done having this nonsense conversations with you, because you are not even trying or have a rational view point on things.

(For example i stated multiple times that this is the first account i had to KYC on, so god knows how you come up with "or maybe you used a fake ID".)


Either you are shilling/affiliated with them or you just have some other problem i dont know. Also weird how you are the only person in this thread agreeing with their behavior / thinking their response was enough


But that right here was all i needed. ->



Woops. Gotcha!

Imagine someone making unfounded accusations without any sort of proof. This is what you are doing since you joined this thread.

Take a look in the mirror my friend.

I was just going off of your initial post where you said this:


You then proceeded in your initial post to provide a screenshot of that supposed chat. But now you say this:

So while it may not have been intentional, you contradicted yourself which would bring up the following question naturally:
 
When exactly did this chat your friend had take place? Before or after you put $10,000 into this new account you created?


A real safety measure would have been you going on their chat and telling them you got limited in your other account(s) and is it ok  you open a new account (and put $10,000 in). it doesn't appear you did that though. since you have no screenshots of such a conversation.

how many accounts did you have opened up and limited before you opened up this account that you deposited $10,000 into? did i miss that somewhere? it certainly was not mentioned in your initial post. why not put all of the details into the initial posting?

really? if that's the case then you just answered your own question.


but maybe you didn't use your real identity on some of the accounts or something?


they never claimed you were doing that anyway but if you would have been then yes, that would be a different situation with no leg to stand on.

i'll be honest with you that disagree that their statement was vague. i think it was pretty much in line with what could be expected. that's how companies reply to complaints. how i would expect them to reply to your complaint based on how they reply to other peoples complaints on trustpilot. in some of those cases they resolved the person's issue.




the accusations you make are unfounded and it doesn't surprise me though. seeing how you are so offbase in this one how you could be offbase in another one...

It is good to know that you are being robbed in this way to avoid these scammers.

Dear OP,

First of all, I want to state I'm sorry about the absolute idiots you've had to deal with in this thread.

Some of the people in this thread appear to be intentionally behaving in obtuse ways, just to aggravate you. I cannot explain why or what their motivations are, or maybe they are just too plumb stupid to understand your case.

I understood your case right away.

You bet, you won, you made some multiple accounts to avoid the limits imposed on the previous accounts. If you could be accused of anything wrong here, you tried to evade these previous limits.

That does not justify Rollbit stealing $10,000 from you, and Razer's response is woefully inadequate.

You have also stated you never received any warnings. This is entirely possible. Rollbit should show some evidence of these supposed warnings they sent you. If you did not receive warnings, or it was not clear you would get in trouble trying to evade those warnings, then I think it can be partially understood why you might think it was safe to create new accounts. After all, you did deposit $10,000, so you must have felt it was safe, which suggests your motivations were not "nefarious" but more a case of naivete or believing multi-accounts was an acceptable option.

The correct action here is to return the $10,000 and explain that you cannot evade the sports book limits with multiple accounts.

The TOS is clear, you can create multiple accounts. If they have an issue with people doing that, then they need to be a lot more clear about what is allowed and what isn't.

Time for Rollbit to return the funds and make a clear statement on what happened, and end this. Otherwise, this looks very bad for them, and I find Razer's replies just totally inadequate and seemingly dismissive of the situation. Prove and clearly explain how OP broke the TOS, and please justify why it is some how OK for you to take his $10,000 deposit, and explain to us how that isn't theft on your part. We are watching and wait, Razer and Rollbit.com. OP has explained himself enough.

I will also add, I would take Rollbit's side here IF they could offer some clear evidence and a case as to why OP was being "nefarious" and please show the many warnings you claimed he received. Explain more clearly, in a way that is legally justifiable, why it's ok to take his $10,000.

(Full disclosure: I am not affiliated with OP or Rollbit in any way.)

Let me correct you here, since once again you seem to not really read carefully whats happening.
The provided screenshot is from a friend of mine as i stated before already. And yes, i did take safety measurements, because while you are talking like bookies/casinos are the poor victims, in reality its often them who try to do shady stuff. But i guess you never heared of such cases? Thats why im protecting myself beforehand, which i would advice everyone who plays with significant amounts of money. Such a weird thing to do right?




Once again - you probably didnt read what was being said before - i did KYC on the account. If i would be a citizen of a blocked country i think we would have a different case on our hands and they probably would have mentioned something in their previous "statement".




I dont have a problem with critical voices, but i did my best here to provide what i can. At the moment, ive been sharing what i can while Rollbit released a very very vague statement and since than has failed to follow up on it. You are the only person here trying to frame me in that way, without any proof. And yea its pretty weird to me, how personally attacked you seem aswell.

Checking your history in this forum and everything, i wouldnt be surprised if you are somewhat related to rollbit . A dev maybe?

You claim you went on their chat and asked if it was ok to do "multi account" and even showed us a screenshot of that chat. But in your screenshot you didn't explain to them why you would be using that feature.  And how come you even took a screenshot of that innocent chat in the first place? Most people don't do that you know? Unless they have a plan in place that they might need to use it as "evidence" later on in case something goes wrong

Another thing is which raises a small red flag is your following statement where you claim they told you using vpns/proxies was ok.


It's not ok to use a vpn to circumvent this type of message:

Rollbit.com is unavailable in your country.
For any questions, please contact [email protected]

Were you using a vpn to bypass that message or for some other reason?

Sorry you don't like the scrutiny but you came here with your story and you put it out there. this is a discussion forum where people discuss things other people post. if you don't like that, then you could have posted your review of rollbit on trustpilot where only they can reply.

Good job on dodging everything else i said. Pretty obvious to me what you are doing here.

Anyways, they are aware of this post and know where to answer. Why would i open a new discussion on trustpilot, your logic makes no sense.

IF id post that on trustpilot its just to flag them on multiple platforms.


And no i dont see that on trustpilot, which still makes absolutely no sense to even bring up. This is a very unique situation & im asking them to provide proof of what they are claiming here.

Maybe you can just accept that and move on instead of trolling here and being sarcastic + not providing anything productive. Im sure that should be no problem.


Unless.... shilling

if you look at their trustpilot, do you see other people complaining that they had a large deposit confiscated and the company just told them they wouldn't give it back to them? Is that a pattern we see on all the hundreds of trustpilot reviews? Do we even see that at all?

you gonna leave that trustpilot review and give them a chance to reply on there? seems like they used to reply to people back in 2020 maybe part of 2021. not sure if they do now...

I think there are PLENTY other cases here, where its obvious that those dudes are doing it on other platforms. I think i broke down my reasoning why i behaved the way i behaved often enough.

Still weird, that there you dont feel the need to be sarcastic and get involved on those other threads. Shilling is a thing i heared .

as well it seems odd to me that this is the fist time you ever got into trouble with a sportsbook/casino behaving the way you did with rollbit. did you leave your trustpilot review?

Also its pretty odd to me that the only time you have ever answered to a scam accusation is this thread  And additionally you are so invested aswell...

Posting a summary here again, so it is easier for Razer/Rollbit to answer.


Partially correct. This was not my first account on Rollbit. Previous accounts were limited, and none of them were banned.

No warnings were given. Please back your claims, Razer.

There was nothing nefarious about my behavior. I never abused any bonuses, coupons, or chat features.

Incorrect, no warnings were given. Again, please provide us the proof.

Recouping losses, as a bookmaker by seizing deposits? Furthermore, please back your claims with evidence.

TLDR: Razer is either lying or confusing someone else's accounts with mine.




Thanks for the link. Will do!

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.rollbit.com

just imagine. you could ding their 4.5 out of 5 star rating if you left them a negative review. it might go down to 4 stars for a while.

Another 10 days have passed.
Once again I'm asking Rollbit to please come forward with proof of their claims!
If you have such strong evidence of banned and warned accounts, I don't think it should be a problem providing this here & answer the other questions that came up since you posted your very short and vague statement.

someone already pointed it out to you. maybe you should read it again.



also if they ever give you your money back consider yourself lucky and hopefully we don't see you again in this type of situation.

Please focus and read the whole thread and include all the information that both sides have provided you. You're blindly talking outside of the scope here and not taking the most important bits of information into account here.

What do you mean? I never said I didn't use multiple accounts - it is clear as a day that I did. The whole core of this topic here is that I opened up multiple accounts because their ToS allowed it and the website itself promoted it.

Again, no warnings were given. Please read the thread again before you post anything here without understanding the context.

Again, as I told you, no warnings were given.

Read the whole thread again - in what universe is it fair to steal $10k when I've been following all the terms & conditions on their website and confirmed that it was fine to use multiple accounts?


Please stop trolling. There are plenty of other threads where you can state such vague statements. You're literally not giving any important input here.
"How much nicer can you be than that" - So you just accept everything Razer told as truth, without any proof? Fine by me, but that's not the reason I've created this thread. I want to know why I've been treated the way I was, fair and square. I want them to work it out with me as their customer, not just drop a few sentences and think that's sufficient. Rollbit owes me $10k and they know it.

Since the op said 10 grand was alot for him then we can assume maybe that the amount in total he won from them is in the 5 figure range. Not 6. So not a huge amount of money for a business but still probably a bit outside of the norm for what they want in a typical gambling customer that uses their website. maybe that's why he's no longer welcome there.


if that's true then the op has no leg to stand on.

if thats true then he doesn't have a leg to stand on.

sounds like something people would try and do. i'm sure it's happened to you guys alot.

and then he put in 10 grand into another account and that's when he got his funds frozen after all of that. if that's the case then he got treated pretty well i would say.

I bet so. you have to hammer those nails when they come out of the woodwork.

I would think it is very nice of a sportsbook/casino to actually warn someone not to do something before they resorted to more extreme measures. I mean how much nicer can you be than that?

Like I said, 2 sides to every story. Then the truth...

To me, their silence speaks volumes. If they would have satisfying answers, they would have given them by now.

Again: this doesn't matter. Their maximum profit combined with the house edge should ensure they never lose a significant portion of their bankroll. You win some, you lose some. And in the casino's case, they win more than they lose.