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legendary
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If I recall well, Roobet have launched signature campaigns in this forum 3 times or in 3 different phases, the last one being the biggest and longest running. I like the fact that the casino grew so big over the years. In the beginning, it was a small casino starting off business here like any other new casinos, and I am glad they picked the right campaign management team that helped propel them to newer heights. There is always room for new promotions and contents. Who knows what they might have in the bag next year  Wink
The success of a casino depends on how their marketing team is, if their marketing team is great it will certainly bring a lot of traffic to their site for example they are looking for a campaign manager on this forum who is talented so they can attract traffic from this forum too, apart from that it all depends on how the casino has money to finance marketing which may not be small and requires a lot of money to get maximum results.

But it all comes back to the benefits of the site being able to become popular when they dare to spend a lot of money on their marketing and campaigns of course in order to get high traffic for the site, we all know that all casinos start small, it's just that as we have encountered recently many once new casinos hold campaigns on this bitcointalk forum, but most of them don't have enough money to last long like Roobet and other casino sites. even though if they are sure everything will return to be profitable for their site too.

That's why its important to choose those people who have a lot of experience dealing with marketing task especially have familiarity of what people like and how they react towards the campaign they launched. Roobet and marketing team did a great job with this since imagine how huge they are now then they became the one of biggest casino exist in the history of bitcointalk. Although the lower down the number of participants but for sure in future we can see a lot more since they are always looking forward to satisfied or make people feel amaze for playing and following the community they built.

If other casino want to be successful like Roobet they should consider all important factor what this casino do since for sure they can also get a huge chance to succeed especially if they are also ready to spend for marketing.
Yes, the most important thing to promote a casino to make it big depends on the size of the budget, where the bigger the budget, the bigger the opportunity to get loyal users. The marketing factor is very important in promoting a casino and we also see that many new casinos have appeared on this forum, starting to hold campaigns, but maybe usually they only do it for a short time because of the limited budget.

Sometimes every casino really needs courage in carrying out marketing where the market is very appropriate to get traffic from this forum. Of course there will be many crypto users in this forum and can become active gamblers. It's no wonder that gamblers from this forum have increased greatly because of casino marketing. in this forum it really dominates compared to the others.  Grin
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All casinos start small but not a lot really grow big and in the end it is all a bit about luck also, at least that is what I think. It still baffles me that every day you see new casinos popping up while there is already a lot of competition. To stand out, you need to have some unique features and/or a great marketing team and not a lot casinos succeed in this.
You could say it's luck, but to me, it's a bit more than that. Marketing plays a huge role. Do you think Roobet would still continue spending on those art contests for that long if they were making no returns? The easiest clue is looking at the person managing the promotions. I don't want to mention names of other competitors here but just look at the different casinos the CM has managed over along period of time, and you will see for yourself that most of them are indeed successful and doing well.
that's correct because in business like running gambling Luck does not exist but everything comes to the plans but of course with unlimited capital because at first there is a need to spend a lot that is what needs to gain in the future.

Look at how much they spend in all advertising they conduct over the years , not mentioning those giveaway and those Bonuses they have sent to the deserving accounts.
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You are right that marketing plays a huge roll but the casino will need to do something else to stand out. Roobet did that in the beginning with all the promotions they launched for the forum (guess the wager, guess the slot) and is continuing to do that with the art contests they keep on launching. It is not sufficient to just launch a signature campaign; it helps for sure, but you need to do more to retain your existing players and always be able to attract new ones.
Roobet started in Bitcointalk with their signature campaign and some weeks or months later, they began with other types of advertisements in Bitcointalk like with different contests. Art, Slot, Multiplier contests are different marketing types they used to run in Bitcointalk community.

I believe those contests had good engagement and contribution of Hhampuz and Hhampuz is a first manager who hosts those contests. I possibly missed other earlier contests because I were not here too long so if I missed something, please correct me.

Your point is correct that a signature campaign is a good way of marketing like we see how mixer companies are affected by a  new forum policy to ban all mixers and mixer signature campaigns since January 2024. Moving to other forums with lower traffics will bring less effects for those companies. Signature campaign if possible can be combined and co-run with other marketing types to maximize effects for the brand.
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All casinos start small but not a lot really grow big and in the end it is all a bit about luck also, at least that is what I think. It still baffles me that every day you see new casinos popping up while there is already a lot of competition. To stand out, you need to have some unique features and/or a great marketing team and not a lot casinos succeed in this.
You could say it's luck, but to me, it's a bit more than that. Marketing plays a huge role. Do you think Roobet would still continue spending on those art contests for that long if they were making no returns? The easiest clue is looking at the person managing the promotions. I don't want to mention names of other competitors here but just look at the different casinos the CM has managed over along period of time, and you will see for yourself that most of them are indeed successful and doing well.

You are right that marketing plays a huge roll but the casino will need to do something else to stand out. Roobet did that in the beginning with all the promotions they launched for the forum (guess the wager, guess the slot) and is continuing to do that with the art contests they keep on launching. It is not sufficient to just launch a signature campaign; it helps for sure, but you need to do more to retain your existing players and always be able to attract new ones.
legendary
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All casinos start small but not a lot really grow big and in the end it is all a bit about luck also, at least that is what I think. It still baffles me that every day you see new casinos popping up while there is already a lot of competition. To stand out, you need to have some unique features and/or a great marketing team and not a lot casinos succeed in this.
You could say it's luck, but to me, it's a bit more than that. Marketing plays a huge role. Do you think Roobet would still continue spending on those art contests for that long if they were making no returns? The easiest clue is looking at the person managing the promotions. I don't want to mention names of other competitors here but just look at the different casinos the CM has managed over along period of time, and you will see for yourself that most of them are indeed successful and doing well.
legendary
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If I recall well, Roobet have launched signature campaigns in this forum 3 times or in 3 different phases, the last one being the biggest and longest running. I like the fact that the casino grew so big over the years. In the beginning, it was a small casino starting off business here like any other new casinos, and I am glad they picked the right campaign management team that helped propel them to newer heights. There is always room for new promotions and contents. Who knows what they might have in the bag next year  Wink
The success of a casino depends on how their marketing team is, if their marketing team is great it will certainly bring a lot of traffic to their site for example they are looking for a campaign manager on this forum who is talented so they can attract traffic from this forum too, apart from that it all depends on how the casino has money to finance marketing which may not be small and requires a lot of money to get maximum results.

But it all comes back to the benefits of the site being able to become popular when they dare to spend a lot of money on their marketing and campaigns of course in order to get high traffic for the site, we all know that all casinos start small, it's just that as we have encountered recently many once new casinos hold campaigns on this bitcointalk forum, but most of them don't have enough money to last long like Roobet and other casino sites. even though if they are sure everything will return to be profitable for their site too.


I also think the same, marketing on any site is relevant no matter what view it is given, for example a casino site that always does things well, you can say or talk that it will have a great success rate, but that's how it is As has been shown, just seeing the big casinos like they are and their success gives a lot to talk about, among those who believe that marketing can be one of the ways because the more traffic, the more players , yes , it is , and There comes a time when all of this will practically pay for itself, this is something that I have always faithfully believed, this includes a Lao signature campaign, advertising campaigns through social networks, in fact, the results in the forum are very nice when it comes to this , because basically the things that are in the forum regarding social networks are many people who have developed their ideas , and it is important, we know how they do it, some can even be influencers, which helps a lot to Advertise any type of casino.

Casinos basically live on the good Recommendations of the professionals , on the things they do well, on each player being satisfied with what they have done, this is something simple, and you will always see that I don't see any other way, for me this is something that always It will be presented at all times, I could say that in any case the eprosans can make a difference when a case comes in that they have seen on social networks or that here in the forum they are advertising it a lot through signature campaigns, It is something that I see as very good , operation is what I think about it , there are eprosn that also believe that this is the way to go , but it is a question that each casino sees the best for its company, each business is good depending on how it is Managed and managed, the one that gives priority to marketing, it is very difficult for things to go wrong because it is a site that will always have an influx of people looking for the best Opportunities.

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Correct Roobet seems to lessen their way of advertising here in Bitcointalk and not planning
to add more anytime in the future as even their Signature campaigns are now running with 10 members from 60 regular members
It's pretty common for most casino after some years of launching themselves here. If you remember the likes of Cloudbet, Bustadice,Bitsler etc, they used to have lots of promotions here back in the day but as time passed their activity reduced in the forum.
Now I am not saying every casino follows the same path but sometimes these things happen.

As for the Roobet Casino in particular, I believe that reducing the number of participants in the signature campaign is not evidence of a lack of casino activity, because that would have led to strengthening its advertising campaigns on the forum and not reducing them.
They still have multiple campaigns here in the forum, the signature and of course the art contest every Month. They reduced the number of participants for a purpose and they’ve been here in the market for years and maybe they already meet their target market and population, that’s while reducing the cost is also part of it so they can use the funds into other things. Marketing campaign is very important, and so far Roobet is practicing their best to maintain the quality.

I agree with you that managing signature campaigns in particular is very expensive, and Roobet in particular spends a huge budget every week for more than three years. This budget may have become expensive for Roobet, which forced it in the first stage to reduce the number of participants to only 30 members and then limit itself to only 10 members after that. Do not forget that the signature campaign requires participants to submit 15 minimum publications that require payment.

Maybe they are now a establish casino then want to test if their casino is sustainable even if they do minimal promotion and we see Roobet cuts a lot of that. But for sure there would be more from them in future since they don't want their casino to be out of the limelight and once they see that they needed to run a new promotion since there competitor is starting to get a lot of exposure then for sure that Roobet will compete again and launched a new offer that can attract us or maybe they increase back the number of their campaign participants to maximize back their presence here.

There is another point worth mentioning related to the number of signature campaigns for gambling sites that are active in parallel with the roobet campaign. These campaigns are competitive, and roobet was their leader par excellence by virtue of having the longest campaign duration and the most generous payout. And I think it still is. But there are also signature campaigns for the mixer that pay better than other types of campaigns, which forces casino signature campaigns to increase the number of participants and payments every week.

During this period, it was announced that any activities related to the mixing platforms, including signing campaigns, would be completely abandoned. This is good news for other signature campaigns, such as Roobet, which can now reduce the campaign’s weekly budget, including reducing the number of participants.
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If I recall well, Roobet have launched signature campaigns in this forum 3 times or in 3 different phases, the last one being the biggest and longest running. I like the fact that the casino grew so big over the years. In the beginning, it was a small casino starting off business here like any other new casinos, and I am glad they picked the right campaign management team that helped propel them to newer heights. There is always room for new promotions and contents. Who knows what they might have in the bag next year  Wink
All casinos start small but not a lot really grow big and in the end it is all a bit about luck also, at least that is what I think. It still baffles me that every day you see new casinos popping up while there is already a lot of competition. To stand out, you need to have some unique features and/or a great marketing team and not a lot casinos succeed in this.
I do believe that luck plays a role for a casino as much as a gambler, but that doesn't really mean that it's all due to the luck. Roobet has done so many things right, gave out so many prizes, shared their earnings with too many people to gather all this much people. They are big and successful right now all due to their understanding that if you give back to the community then community will give it back to you.

If you reward someone 100 bucks, that person may end up taking it and leaving, or maybe not, but the important thing is, if others see you give someone 100 bucks then they will gamble there thinking they may get it too and that will result with you making a lot more money than what you have given out, and roobet understood this from the first day.
legendary
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Guys, I hope all of you are aware of the ongoing Frosty Flippin' Fortune Giveaway on Roobet:
Good Luck! Smiley
I also never miss this, eventhough they only give 0.01 USD per open and 0.03 USD if you successfully flip Mr. Roo logo (Heads). I think I only get that amount because I haven't wagered on Roobet this whole month. I think this is just like a rakeback they just make it look interesting.
How about you? What is the average amount per open you claim in this Frosty Flippin Roobet giveaway? You didn't provide in this post 😁

This is what I get too. I do flip the coin each time I'm there, so, most of the time it's 3 cents. Smiley What's funny is that today I decided to wager a bit on slots to see what happens to the rewards and I won a pretty nice amount, more than 100x of my bet:



So, whatever the reward is going to be the next day, I'm already happy. Smiley

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So, if you could pay 100 dollars to 10 people, that will be 1000 dollars, but if you paid 25 dollars per week per person then you could get 40 people, and if the requirement is at least 25 posts, then you get 1000 posts, instead of 250 posts per week.
I'm pretty sure that the members who are active on the forum and who make good posts would not even apply in a signature campaign that offers them just $25 for whole week's posts. A user with multiple alt accounts may join such campaigns or those users may try to get into such campaigns who don't make good quality posts.

I believe $100 is a good pay and the good post makers would love to join and promote a campaign that offers them such incentives for their work. I believe it's better to have 250 good posts than having 1000 low-quality posts.

The members who get paid $100 or more deserve that money because they spend at least 2-6 hours on the forum and they only make posts about the topics when they are completely sure that their post could be valuable for others.
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If they had made out such changes then it would be understandable  that they are already making some cost-cutting when it comes to marketing but actually we dont really know about the reason on such changes
whether they had just dropped out the number of applications because they arent really that needing that much or they are really that having that cost cutting.
Well, its their company so they've do have the rights on how they would really be handling out to their business. We cant really be able to conclude that their revenue becomes less
but i wont really be shocked if ever it is happening consicering that competition gets really high and tough then its not something that would be shocking imho.

Important thing that despite of the cut-off, they are really that still having that exposure into this forum on which they are still that getting in line
with those current existing ones on which this is really that still just fine.
I have been always in favour of trying to get more people for less money if I was a company. I mean as people who wear signatures we prefer that they pay a lot to just a few people and hope that we could be lucky enough to be one of those people and that's understandable. However, I feel like one of the most important parts is to get your name heard by as many people as possible.

So, if you could pay 100 dollars to 10 people, that will be 1000 dollars, but if you paid 25 dollars per week per person then you could get 40 people, and if the requirement is at least 25 posts, then you get 1000 posts, instead of 250 posts per week. That's literally all you have to do and yes it would not be a lot of people but "some" people will do it, and your manager will check the quality and fire anyone who just spams and will hire anyone who looks decent. I believe that's the way they should go.
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If I recall well, Roobet have launched signature campaigns in this forum 3 times or in 3 different phases, the last one being the biggest and longest running. I like the fact that the casino grew so big over the years. In the beginning, it was a small casino starting off business here like any other new casinos, and I am glad they picked the right campaign management team that helped propel them to newer heights. There is always room for new promotions and contents. Who knows what they might have in the bag next year  Wink
The success of a casino depends on how their marketing team is, if their marketing team is great it will certainly bring a lot of traffic to their site for example they are looking for a campaign manager on this forum who is talented so they can attract traffic from this forum too, apart from that it all depends on how the casino has money to finance marketing which may not be small and requires a lot of money to get maximum results.

But it all comes back to the benefits of the site being able to become popular when they dare to spend a lot of money on their marketing and campaigns of course in order to get high traffic for the site, we all know that all casinos start small, it's just that as we have encountered recently many once new casinos hold campaigns on this bitcointalk forum, but most of them don't have enough money to last long like Roobet and other casino sites. even though if they are sure everything will return to be profitable for their site too.

That's why its important to choose those people who have a lot of experience dealing with marketing task especially have familiarity of what people like and how they react towards the campaign they launched. Roobet and marketing team did a great job with this since imagine how huge they are now then they became the one of biggest casino exist in the history of bitcointalk. Although the lower down the number of participants but for sure in future we can see a lot more since they are always looking forward to satisfied or make people feel amaze for playing and following the community they built.

If other casino want to be successful like Roobet they should consider all important factor what this casino do since for sure they can also get a huge chance to succeed especially if they are also ready to spend for marketing.
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If I recall well, Roobet have launched signature campaigns in this forum 3 times or in 3 different phases, the last one being the biggest and longest running. I like the fact that the casino grew so big over the years. In the beginning, it was a small casino starting off business here like any other new casinos, and I am glad they picked the right campaign management team that helped propel them to newer heights. There is always room for new promotions and contents. Who knows what they might have in the bag next year  Wink
The success of a casino depends on how their marketing team is, if their marketing team is great it will certainly bring a lot of traffic to their site for example they are looking for a campaign manager on this forum who is talented so they can attract traffic from this forum too, apart from that it all depends on how the casino has money to finance marketing which may not be small and requires a lot of money to get maximum results.

But it all comes back to the benefits of the site being able to become popular when they dare to spend a lot of money on their marketing and campaigns of course in order to get high traffic for the site, we all know that all casinos start small, it's just that as we have encountered recently many once new casinos hold campaigns on this bitcointalk forum, but most of them don't have enough money to last long like Roobet and other casino sites. even though if they are sure everything will return to be profitable for their site too.
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The owner or representative of Roobet was last active in March this year. Before the forum had issues with images from imgur.com

When he comes back, the graphic link in OP should be updated. I did uploads to two image uploading websites and OP can use it.


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If I recall well, Roobet have launched signature campaigns in this forum 3 times or in 3 different phases, the last one being the biggest and longest running. I like the fact that the casino grew so big over the years. In the beginning, it was a small casino starting off business here like any other new casinos, and I am glad they picked the right campaign management team that helped propel them to newer heights. There is always room for new promotions and contents. Who knows what they might have in the bag next year  Wink

All casinos start small but not a lot really grow big and in the end it is all a bit about luck also, at least that is what I think. It still baffles me that every day you see new casinos popping up while there is already a lot of competition. To stand out, you need to have some unique features and/or a great marketing team and not a lot casinos succeed in this.
legendary
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If I recall well, Roobet have launched signature campaigns in this forum 3 times or in 3 different phases, the last one being the biggest and longest running. I like the fact that the casino grew so big over the years. In the beginning, it was a small casino starting off business here like any other new casinos, and I am glad they picked the right campaign management team that helped propel them to newer heights. There is always room for new promotions and contents. Who knows what they might have in the bag next year  Wink
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Correct Roobet seems to lessen their way of advertising here in Bitcointalk and not planning
to add more anytime in the future as even their Signature campaigns are now running with 10 members from 60 regular members
It's pretty common for most casino after some years of launching themselves here. If you remember the likes of Cloudbet, Bustadice,Bitsler etc, they used to have lots of promotions here back in the day but as time passed their activity reduced in the forum.
Now I am not saying every casino follows the same path but sometimes these things happen.

As for the Roobet Casino in particular, I believe that reducing the number of participants in the signature campaign is not evidence of a lack of casino activity, because that would have led to strengthening its advertising campaigns on the forum and not reducing them.
They still have multiple campaigns here in the forum, the signature and of course the art contest every Month. They reduced the number of participants for a purpose and they’ve been here in the market for years and maybe they already meet their target market and population, that’s while reducing the cost is also part of it so they can use the funds into other things. Marketing campaign is very important, and so far Roobet is practicing their best to maintain the quality.

I agree with you that managing signature campaigns in particular is very expensive, and Roobet in particular spends a huge budget every week for more than three years. This budget may have become expensive for Roobet, which forced it in the first stage to reduce the number of participants to only 30 members and then limit itself to only 10 members after that. Do not forget that the signature campaign requires participants to submit 15 minimum publications that require payment.

Maybe they are now a establish casino then want to test if their casino is sustainable even if they do minimal promotion and we see Roobet cuts a lot of that. But for sure there would be more from them in future since they don't want their casino to be out of the limelight and once they see that they needed to run a new promotion since there competitor is starting to get a lot of exposure then for sure that Roobet will compete again and launched a new offer that can attract us or maybe they increase back the number of their campaign participants to maximize back their presence here.
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Correct Roobet seems to lessen their way of advertising here in Bitcointalk and not planning
to add more anytime in the future as even their Signature campaigns are now running with 10 members from 60 regular members
It's pretty common for most casino after some years of launching themselves here. If you remember the likes of Cloudbet, Bustadice,Bitsler etc, they used to have lots of promotions here back in the day but as time passed their activity reduced in the forum.
Now I am not saying every casino follows the same path but sometimes these things happen.

Agreed, a couple of years ago, there were a lot of promotions (in the games and round section) from both Roobet and Duelbits but that sadly stopped some time ago. Now you see some newer casinos launching promotions as it is a good way in getting new members.
New casinos need a marketing strategy to spread awareness and be known. If the casino is already established it is not surprising if they will lessen their promotion to cut cost since they already reach their goal of attracting the gamblers and gaining their trust.

Well, this is not possible if the platform is shady. But since these casinos are reputable, it's already easy for them to have a loyal gamblers to keep playing on their casino through exclusive promotions, rewards and benefits. Most importantly the fact that they will not scam their gamblers is one of the main reason on how they build their good reputation.
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Correct Roobet seems to lessen their way of advertising here in Bitcointalk and not planning
to add more anytime in the future as even their Signature campaigns are now running with 10 members from 60 regular members
It's pretty common for most casino after some years of launching themselves here. If you remember the likes of Cloudbet, Bustadice,Bitsler etc, they used to have lots of promotions here back in the day but as time passed their activity reduced in the forum.
Now I am not saying every casino follows the same path but sometimes these things happen.

As for the Roobet Casino in particular, I believe that reducing the number of participants in the signature campaign is not evidence of a lack of casino activity, because that would have led to strengthening its advertising campaigns on the forum and not reducing them.
They still have multiple campaigns here in the forum, the signature and of course the art contest every Month. They reduced the number of participants for a purpose and they’ve been here in the market for years and maybe they already meet their target market and population, that’s while reducing the cost is also part of it so they can use the funds into other things. Marketing campaign is very important, and so far Roobet is practicing their best to maintain the quality.

I agree with you that managing signature campaigns in particular is very expensive, and Roobet in particular spends a huge budget every week for more than three years. This budget may have become expensive for Roobet, which forced it in the first stage to reduce the number of participants to only 30 members and then limit itself to only 10 members after that. Do not forget that the signature campaign requires participants to submit 15 minimum publications that require payment.
If they had made out such changes then it would be understandable  that they are already making some cost-cutting when it comes to marketing but actually we dont really know about the reason on such changes
whether they had just dropped out the number of applications because they arent really that needing that much or they are really that having that cost cutting.
Well, its their company so they've do have the rights on how they would really be handling out to their business. We cant really be able to conclude that their revenue becomes less
but i wont really be shocked if ever it is happening consicering that competition gets really high and tough then its not something that would be shocking imho.

Important thing that despite of the cut-off, they are really that still having that exposure into this forum on which they are still that getting in line
with those current existing ones on which this is really that still just fine.
legendary
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Correct Roobet seems to lessen their way of advertising here in Bitcointalk and not planning
to add more anytime in the future as even their Signature campaigns are now running with 10 members from 60 regular members
It's pretty common for most casino after some years of launching themselves here. If you remember the likes of Cloudbet, Bustadice,Bitsler etc, they used to have lots of promotions here back in the day but as time passed their activity reduced in the forum.
Now I am not saying every casino follows the same path but sometimes these things happen.

As for the Roobet Casino in particular, I believe that reducing the number of participants in the signature campaign is not evidence of a lack of casino activity, because that would have led to strengthening its advertising campaigns on the forum and not reducing them.
They still have multiple campaigns here in the forum, the signature and of course the art contest every Month. They reduced the number of participants for a purpose and they’ve been here in the market for years and maybe they already meet their target market and population, that’s while reducing the cost is also part of it so they can use the funds into other things. Marketing campaign is very important, and so far Roobet is practicing their best to maintain the quality.

I agree with you that managing signature campaigns in particular is very expensive, and Roobet in particular spends a huge budget every week for more than three years. This budget may have become expensive for Roobet, which forced it in the first stage to reduce the number of participants to only 30 members and then limit itself to only 10 members after that. Do not forget that the signature campaign requires participants to submit 15 minimum publications that require payment.
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