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Quote from: khaled0111 on June 11, 2021, 05:14:42 PM

You guys are right but sometimes this mempool fee thingy can be confusing tbh. Today the slow withdraw fee on FBC (faucet) is less than a dollar.

The most easy way to frequently go to your computer, log in to your roobet account and the check if the transaction fee has been lowered or not.

During my time in the Bustadice campaign I got to know (and love Wink

) the "Slow Withdraw" at Bustadice. Instead of an instant withdraw, you could choose a withdraw that could last up to 24 hours. Bustadice collected all withdrawals and transferred them in one batch, which made the fees much cheaper (5-10x cheaper).

Maybe such a system would also make sense at Roobet, as a user you only have the problem of having to wait a little longer for your valuable coins.

In my opinion, that is a good system, and I don't know why other casinos don't use it as well. Roobet probably processes a lot of withdrawals per day and batch transactions only make sense if users opt for the low fee option. This could be an ideal solution for anyone with small amounts in their accounts, as long as it's properly explained on the website.

Majority of gambling sites now has this feature in which we can choose the speed of the transaction depend on how much Fee we wanted to proceed .

Though In roobet what i noticed is that their Withdrawal fee constantly changing , sometimes huge sometimes very low..

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But what about users privacy!! I' am sure most users don't want their addresses to be linked with other gamblers addresses and mostly don't want anyone to know how much they withdrew just to save few bucks.

This can only become a problem if:

The gambling platform always uses the same sending address for the coins
The batches are very large, for example, sent to hundreds of users at the same time

However, both can be easily circumvented by the gambling platform using a new address for each batch transaction and keeping the batches small, e.g. only sending the coins to 15 - 20 users at once.

Apart from that, we as players should also use an address only once to keep our privacy as high as possible.

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Quote from: UserU on June 10, 2021, 03:30:28 AM

Almost 7 dollars for the slow withdrawal... shouldn't they be reduced by now? Even other sites don't charge higher than a few bucks.

In reality it is the average average of many casinos and on the contrary the tendency is for them to be higher than the high average of the mempool, very rarely are the casinos who are near average of the mempool.

I have kept track of at least 20+ casinos for over 6 months you can check out this thread.

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Quote from: Maslate on June 11, 2021, 05:22:09 PM

Your address is linked to a gambling platform or gambling transaction should not be a problem if gambling is not illegal in your country. It shouldn't be a big issue as we have to be responsible enough to gamble and there's nothing to hide. Save from transaction fee, that's the concern of majority of the gamblers.

Please re-read my reply again! My concern is not about my address being linked to gambling. My concern is about it being linked to other gamblers addresses.
When a service makes a batch transaction it processes all withdrawal requests in one transaction. This is not something you want to happen if you value your privacy and it doesn't matter if you are using your main wallet or not. Having nothing to hide doesn't mean you should give up your privacy.

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Quote from: tygeade on June 12, 2021, 04:29:20 PM

What if it is illegal to gamble in my nation? That just means we should not play here if we are not allowed and that makes sense. However roobet should realize that they are cutting off too many people all at once, all the big nations, USA, Canada, UK, Netherlands all ban online gambling this way and that means there is nearly a billion people you already write off as non-customer without even working for it.

What's your point? Roobet's Terms of Service clearly state which countries are not allowed on their platform. Residents of these countries are in violation of both the law of their jurisdiction as well as Roobet's Terms of Service, which means their accounts can be blocked at Roobet's discretion.

Quote from: tygeade on June 12, 2021, 04:29:20 PM

Normally places like this should want more people because the more people gamble the more people will lose and that means profit for roobet, by writing off all that many people all at once you are going to limit your profit a lot. This is why we are against KYC, make it allowed to gamble from those places, we won't tell if you don't and that way roobet would have a ton more people gambling here at all times, that makes more sense.

This may be the case for unregulated casinos that operate without a valid license. Roobet is not one of them.

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Quote from: Maslate on June 11, 2021, 05:22:09 PM

Quote from: khaled0111 on June 11, 2021, 05:14:42 PM

Batching transactions can reduce transaction fees dramatically and, from a technical point of view, I don't think it's that hard to implement such system. But what about users privacy!! I' am sure most users don't want their addresses to be linked with other gamblers addresses and mostly don't want anyone to know how much they withdrew just to save few bucks.
If you can't/won't deal with bitcoin network high fees then just use Litecoin.

Your address is linked to a gambling platform or gambling transaction should not be a problem if gambling is not illegal in your country. It shouldn't be a big issue as we have to be responsible enough to gamble and there's nothing to hide. Save from transaction fee, that's the concern of majority of the gamblers.

What if it is illegal to gamble in my nation? That just means we should not play here if we are not allowed and that makes sense. However roobet should realize that they are cutting off too many people all at once, all the big nations, USA, Canada, UK, Netherlands all ban online gambling this way and that means there is nearly a billion people you already write off as non-customer without even working for it.

Normally places like this should want more people because the more people gamble the more people will lose and that means profit for roobet, by writing off all that many people all at once you are going to limit your profit a lot. This is why we are against KYC, make it allowed to gamble from those places, we won't tell if you don't and that way roobet would have a ton more people gambling here at all times, that makes more sense.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on June 11, 2021, 02:15:45 PM

During my time in the Bustadice campaign I got to know (and love Wink

) the "Slow Withdraw" at Bustadice. Instead of an instant withdraw, you could choose a withdraw that could last up to 24 hours. Bustadice collected all withdrawals and transferred them in one batch, which made the fees much cheaper (5-10x cheaper).

Maybe such a system would also make sense at Roobet, as a user you only have the problem of having to wait a little longer for your valuable coins.

You are right. Batching transactions can reduce transaction fees dramatically and, from a technical point of view, I don't think it's that hard to implement such system. But what about users privacy!! I' am sure most users don't want their addresses to be linked with other gamblers addresses and mostly don't want anyone to know how much they withdrew just to save few bucks.
If you can't/won't deal with bitcoin network high fees then just use Litecoin.

Your address is linked to a gambling platform or gambling transaction should not be a problem if gambling is not illegal in your country. It shouldn't be a big issue as we have to be responsible enough to gamble and there's nothing to hide. Save from transaction fee, that's the concern of majority of the gamblers.

If you're here in the forum I guess your address is not private at all since we all post it in public and if you're a silent gambler you have nothing to worry about because your address is still unknown because you keep it as a secret. A collected withdrawals might be an option for Roobet but it's not their motto any more since they promote faster deposit and withdrawals and I'm fine with that.

Only campaign participants post their addresses in public area but those people who are quite dealing with people here are in private for security reasons and I believe eventhough campaign participants have main wallete and the one they drop are their secondary wallets intented for public used.

Also I will consider their suggestion if we can see a good result on it since paying huge fees is kinda not an ideal thing for us especially to those small time gamblers.

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Quote from: FatFork on June 11, 2021, 08:18:53 AM

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You guys are right but sometimes this mempool fee thingy can be confusing tbh. Today the slow withdraw fee on FBC (faucet) is less than a dollar.

The most easy way to frequently go to your computer, log in to your roobet account and the check if the transaction fee has been lowered or not.

During my time in the Bustadice campaign I got to know (and love Wink

) the "Slow Withdraw" at Bustadice. Instead of an instant withdraw, you could choose a withdraw that could last up to 24 hours. Bustadice collected all withdrawals and transferred them in one batch, which made the fees much cheaper (5-10x cheaper).

Maybe such a system would also make sense at Roobet, as a user you only have the problem of having to wait a little longer for your valuable coins.

In my opinion, that is a good system, and I don't know why other casinos don't use it as well. Roobet probably processes a lot of withdrawals per day and batch transactions only make sense if users opt for the low fee option. This could be an ideal solution for anyone with small amounts in their accounts, as long as it's properly explained on the website.

^ Probably because withdrawal is a part of their profit revenue, they will add a small amount from the required amount fees on the network, just like Coinomi wallet which required a higher fee than the actual fee to the mempool. This sounds good, if all gambling use this system of withdrawal, everyone can save the fee even though they will wait even more than 24 hours as long as it well explained in the first place. All small withdrawals collected and send by a bunch in order to save fees. Nevertheless, even for me, it does not matter how long the process is as long as we are aware of the withdrawal process how it will work.

They may also consider not charging a withdrawal fee from the payout. It won't matter much with the revenue model, after all, they have to rely on people who gamble and lose a lot.
People who win and get their payout, I would just pay out and take the fee as a site for their own account. Then you have a more than satisfied customer who will definitely come back.
At the end is all about feeling respected on a site, so that could be an idea to cover the withdrawal fees by their selves.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on June 11, 2021, 05:14:42 PM

During my time in the Bustadice campaign I got to know (and love Wink

) the "Slow Withdraw" at Bustadice. Instead of an instant withdraw, you could choose a withdraw that could last up to 24 hours. Bustadice collected all withdrawals and transferred them in one batch, which made the fees much cheaper (5-10x cheaper).

Maybe such a system would also make sense at Roobet, as a user you only have the problem of having to wait a little longer for your valuable coins.

If they can wait for long enough to cover the fees issue than it would be much easy.But most players who want to withdraw their profits usually pays high fees to confirm the transactions which automatically increases the current fees and all have to make that fees in order to confirm their transaction.But yes it is good idea if the casino clears all the transactions in one batch to different address making fees relatively low and solving the fees problem for small olayeriad well.But nobody want to wait because it can take longer than 24 hours also and we need to have patience for that which many lacks.

Having some sort of dynamic fee is also a very good thing when we are talking about a profit for the gamblers as well, but because sometimes it is higher people do complain about it. If roobet made it a set fix price then you would have to pay that even when mempool is open and empty, which means roobet would profit from you paying that much and when it is very expensive you would profit while casino makes a loss just from people withdrawing which is like why would a business do that? So at the end of the day when it is dynamic it is better because that allows the price to change based on mempool and sometimes you get high and sometimes you get low and that way you continue to gamble without worrying that you would lose a certain amount just to withdraw.

I personally still prefer dynamic because I know that I am not getting screwed on the withdrawal fee's that way.

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During my time in the Bustadice campaign I got to know (and love Wink

) the "Slow Withdraw" at Bustadice. Instead of an instant withdraw, you could choose a withdraw that could last up to 24 hours. Bustadice collected all withdrawals and transferred them in one batch, which made the fees much cheaper (5-10x cheaper).

Maybe such a system would also make sense at Roobet, as a user you only have the problem of having to wait a little longer for your valuable coins.

You are right. Batching transactions can reduce transaction fees dramatically and, from a technical point of view, I don't think it's that hard to implement such system. But what about users privacy!! I' am sure most users don't want their addresses to be linked with other gamblers addresses and mostly don't want anyone to know how much they withdrew just to save few bucks.
If you can't/won't deal with bitcoin network high fees then just use Litecoin.

Your address is linked to a gambling platform or gambling transaction should not be a problem if gambling is not illegal in your country. It shouldn't be a big issue as we have to be responsible enough to gamble and there's nothing to hide. Save from transaction fee, that's the concern of majority of the gamblers.

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Quote from: FatFork on June 11, 2021, 08:18:53 AM

During my time in the Bustadice campaign I got to know (and love Wink

) the "Slow Withdraw" at Bustadice. Instead of an instant withdraw, you could choose a withdraw that could last up to 24 hours. Bustadice collected all withdrawals and transferred them in one batch, which made the fees much cheaper (5-10x cheaper).

Maybe such a system would also make sense at Roobet, as a user you only have the problem of having to wait a little longer for your valuable coins.

You are right. Batching transactions can reduce transaction fees dramatically and, from a technical point of view, I don't think it's that hard to implement such system. But what about users privacy!! I' am sure most users don't want their addresses to be linked with other gamblers addresses and mostly don't want anyone to know how much they withdrew just to save few bucks.
If you can't/won't deal with bitcoin network high fees then just use Litecoin.

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You guys are right but sometimes this mempool fee thingy can be confusing tbh. Today the slow withdraw fee on FBC (faucet) is less than a dollar.

The most easy way to frequently go to your computer, log in to your roobet account and the check if the transaction fee has been lowered or not.

During my time in the Bustadice campaign I got to know (and love Wink

) the "Slow Withdraw" at Bustadice. Instead of an instant withdraw, you could choose a withdraw that could last up to 24 hours. Bustadice collected all withdrawals and transferred them in one batch, which made the fees much cheaper (5-10x cheaper).

Maybe such a system would also make sense at Roobet, as a user you only have the problem of having to wait a little longer for your valuable coins.

In my opinion, that is a good system, and I don't know why other casinos don't use it as well. Roobet probably processes a lot of withdrawals per day and batch transactions only make sense if users opt for the low fee option. This could be an ideal solution for anyone with small amounts in their accounts, as long as it's properly explained on the website.

^ Probably because withdrawal is a part of their profit revenue, they will add a small amount from the required amount fees on the network, just like Coinomi wallet which required a higher fee than the actual fee to the mempool. This sounds good, if all gambling use this system of withdrawal, everyone can save the fee even though they will wait even more than 24 hours as long as it well explained in the first place. All small withdrawals collected and send by a bunch in order to save fees. Nevertheless, even for me, it does not matter how long the process is as long as we are aware of the withdrawal process how it will work.

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Quote from: $crypto$ on June 11, 2021, 09:31:59 AM

The most easy way to frequently go to your computer, log in to your roobet account and the check if the transaction fee has been lowered or not. Alternatively, you can just check the summary of the data reflected on the mempool by following this thread[1] and this person[2] in twitter or to just study on how read the chart in johoe mempool. There are bunch of useful threads in other section of the forum so that you can estimate when will Roobet lower the tx fee.

Actually I do, but the gap is indeed huge between these two :p

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But sometimes on every gambling site platform it is always different in sending the batch, I don't know if this is indeed a heavy traffic system or it has been arranged in batches so that if you collect it, you will of course wait even more.

Unfortunately, I don't know how Bustadice implemented this exactly, but what I noticed is that the batch sending of the coins took place at very different times of the day. So it could be that Bustadice simply waits for the best time within a 24 hour window and then sends the coins.

For me as a user it doesn't really matter if I receive the coins within 30 minutes or 24 hours. Especially if I can save myself a few dollars in transfer fees by doing so!

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You guys are right but sometimes this mempool fee thingy can be confusing tbh. Today the slow withdraw fee on FBC (faucet) is less than a dollar.

The most easy way to frequently go to your computer, log in to your roobet account and the check if the transaction fee has been lowered or not.

During my time in the Bustadice campaign I got to know (and love Wink

) the "Slow Withdraw" at Bustadice. Instead of an instant withdraw, you could choose a withdraw that could last up to 24 hours. Bustadice collected all withdrawals and transferred them in one batch, which made the fees much cheaper (5-10x cheaper).

Maybe such a system would also make sense at Roobet, as a user you only have the problem of having to wait a little longer for your valuable coins.

Since it's been batched for a long time to ship I think a system like this is pretty much the same except there's a slow or instant option.
But sometimes on every gambling site platform it is always different in sending the batch, I don't know if this is indeed a heavy traffic system or it has been arranged in batches so that if you collect it, you will of course wait even more.
For now bitcoin withdrawals have a high menpool constraint.

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You guys are right but sometimes this mempool fee thingy can be confusing tbh. Today the slow withdraw fee on FBC (faucet) is less than a dollar.

The most easy way to frequently go to your computer, log in to your roobet account and the check if the transaction fee has been lowered or not.

During my time in the Bustadice campaign I got to know (and love Wink

) the "Slow Withdraw" at Bustadice. Instead of an instant withdraw, you could choose a withdraw that could last up to 24 hours. Bustadice collected all withdrawals and transferred them in one batch, which made the fees much cheaper (5-10x cheaper).

Maybe such a system would also make sense at Roobet, as a user you only have the problem of having to wait a little longer for your valuable coins.

In my opinion, that is a good system, and I don't know why other casinos don't use it as well. Roobet probably processes a lot of withdrawals per day and batch transactions only make sense if users opt for the low fee option. This could be an ideal solution for anyone with small amounts in their accounts, as long as it's properly explained on the website.

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You guys are right but sometimes this mempool fee thingy can be confusing tbh. Today the slow withdraw fee on FBC (faucet) is less than a dollar.

The most easy way to frequently go to your computer, log in to your roobet account and the check if the transaction fee has been lowered or not.

During my time in the Bustadice campaign I got to know (and love Wink

) the "Slow Withdraw" at Bustadice. Instead of an instant withdraw, you could choose a withdraw that could last up to 24 hours. Bustadice collected all withdrawals and transferred them in one batch, which made the fees much cheaper (5-10x cheaper).

Maybe such a system would also make sense at Roobet, as a user you only have the problem of having to wait a little longer for your valuable coins.

If they can wait for long enough to cover the fees issue than it would be much easy.But most players who want to withdraw their profits usually pays high fees to confirm the transactions which automatically increases the current fees and all have to make that fees in order to confirm their transaction.But yes it is good idea if the casino clears all the transactions in one batch to different address making fees relatively low and solving the fees problem for small olayeriad well.But nobody want to wait because it can take longer than 24 hours also and we need to have patience for that which many lacks.

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You guys are right but sometimes this mempool fee thingy can be confusing tbh. Today the slow withdraw fee on FBC (faucet) is less than a dollar.

The most easy way to frequently go to your computer, log in to your roobet account and the check if the transaction fee has been lowered or not.

During my time in the Bustadice campaign I got to know (and love Wink

) the "Slow Withdraw" at Bustadice. Instead of an instant withdraw, you could choose a withdraw that could last up to 24 hours. Bustadice collected all withdrawals and transferred them in one batch, which made the fees much cheaper (5-10x cheaper).

Maybe such a system would also make sense at Roobet, as a user you only have the problem of having to wait a little longer for your valuable coins.

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