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Quote from: FatFork on May 06, 2021, 06:20:59 PM

Quote from: milewilda on May 06, 2021, 05:22:02 PM

Its expected that there would be some drastic changes into these platforms
knowing that they are regulated by the government and specially this one involves multi-million in inbound and outbound transactions then this isnt something that government
cant just ignore and they are just following on whats been asked even though this would really be making some impact into their business.

Is there a reason you expect gambling platforms to undergo drastic changes in terms of KYC regulations? There is an AML policy in the EU only if funds are transferred in larger amounts (I do not have the exact data, but I think someone stated the amount of at least 2000 Euro).

While I don’t know the laws for other parts of the world, but Roobet states in their ToS that players are bound by the laws of their respective states.

If the casino has cleared stated in its TOC the policy of their working then you are not left with many choices and KYC is one of them on Roobet.If you want to cash out huge profits to your wallet then you surely need to approve your KYC documentation first of all.We as gambler like to be annoymous but it wholey depends upon the company operating roobet that whether they want to make changes in their conditions if there are applications of thousands of players across the platform.But if you have any difficulty in such case then there are some private casinos providing withdrawal facility without KYC and you are free to use them.They want to operate as per the rules and regulations of geographical jurisdiction in respective areas they are operating and that's why they impose certain restrictions on players like KYC,block of VPN usage and area restrictions.There is nothing much you can do except making suggestions to the team members on the forum.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on May 07, 2021, 04:41:50 PM

I got an email from roobet but it's weird they use a different text
I also checked the email address so sure it was an official email , is this normal?

Roobet is on an Space theme as of the moment and that's why we received that kind of email. Actually, when I received the email I check the sender details right away and to see that its legit, it makes me laugh because this is how Roobet seriously take every theme they're into. Working with their art contest right now, and the space theme really looks challenging also can't afford to miss that opportunity to win some extra bonus that's why I'll play.

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Quote from: FatFork on May 07, 2021, 04:58:42 PM

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Yes, the email appears to be genuine. I saw a similar tweet on their official Twitter page:

But why do they go to Twitch after clicking the submit and comply button? 1 week ago was their last live and there is no upcoming schedule yet ... They were just gimmicking to change the text because Mr. Roo is in outer space, he's an Astronaut now.

I think those who are not here on the forum did not hesitate to confirm their identity because we know that Roobet is known for their raffles and giveaways on Twitter as well as those who often participate in their promotions.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on May 07, 2021, 04:41:50 PM

I got an email from roobet but it's weird they use a different text
I also checked the email address so sure it was an official email , is this normal?

Yes, the email appears to be genuine. I saw a similar tweet on their official Twitter page:

https://twitter.com/Roobet/status/1390728138045345792

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I got an email from roobet but it's weird they use a different text
I also checked the email address so sure it was an official email , is this normal?

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Quote from: FatFork on May 06, 2021, 06:20:59 PM

Quote from: milewilda on May 06, 2021, 05:22:02 PM

Its expected that there would be some drastic changes into these platforms
knowing that they are regulated by the government and specially this one involves multi-million in inbound and outbound transactions then this isnt something that government
cant just ignore and they are just following on whats been asked even though this would really be making some impact into their business.

Is there a reason you expect gambling platforms to undergo drastic changes in terms of KYC regulations? There is an AML policy in the EU only if funds are transferred in larger amounts (I do not have the exact data, but I think someone stated the amount of at least 2000 Euro).

While I don’t know the laws for other parts of the world, but Roobet states in their ToS that players are bound by the laws of their respective states.

Each country does have set of regulations it might differ on some aspect or key areas but theyre bit common when it comes to regulating any business or industries specially if it do involves
big amount that do comes in and comes out.For some country then yes they might be only looking or just setting it on a certain amount but we know that not all would be having
the same rules.This is iwhy these drastic changes would always be next in line or shall we say that in high probability it will really be tagged alone with these platforms.

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Quote from: milewilda on May 06, 2021, 05:22:02 PM

Its expected that there would be some drastic changes into these platforms
knowing that they are regulated by the government and specially this one involves multi-million in inbound and outbound transactions then this isnt something that government
cant just ignore and they are just following on whats been asked even though this would really be making some impact into their business.

Is there a reason you expect gambling platforms to undergo drastic changes in terms of KYC regulations? There is an AML policy in the EU only if funds are transferred in larger amounts (I do not have the exact data, but I think someone stated the amount of at least 2000 Euro).

While I don’t know the laws for other parts of the world, but Roobet states in their ToS that players are bound by the laws of their respective states.

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Quote from: arallmuus on May 03, 2021, 05:59:45 PM

Fun fact : majority of Roobet's player dont come from this forum so as I have said. Feel free to comply or find another site instead of debating this pointless stuff all over again

Pointless stuff? Seriously? Hilarious. Everyone are free to express their opinions here which is why you clearly don't have the right to decide what is pointless and what is not.

It is pretty evident that fans of Roobet like you and some others have no issues with the KYC requirements, but the truth is that there will always be people who have issues with these requirements due to the crypto anonymity factor.

We’re talking about KYC here since its fully implemented, yet we didn’t hear a thing from OP and this issue is a big thing for those gambler who are using Roobet since then and didn’t want to provide any KYC at all, that’s why you can hear them raising their voice here and that’s normal because of that big change. Yes, we have choices here and gamblers have to make their decision for the benefit of his own security.

Would really be the main issue but this isnt something just like that its the end of the world since we can still bare with it if you do really concern on pulling out your funds in the site.
We can have our own choice neither we do stay or would transfer into another site which doesnt have KYC.Its expected that there would be some drastic changes into these platforms
knowing that they are regulated by the government and specially this one involves multi-million in inbound and outbound transactions then this isnt something that government
cant just ignore and they are just following on whats been asked even though this would really be making some impact into their business.

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Quote from: Kittygalore on May 06, 2021, 12:48:34 AM

We have to support the decision because we don't have a choice, if we can bully Roobet into removing KYC which is probably not going to happen. I mean, if you don't want to play there because of KYC then that's on you, it's not like you are their biggest and only customer, other people will not be the same as you.

I understand that we are powerless when it comes to roobet making their own decisions. That is why I am not "demanding" them to change anything, because I do not have that chance and I am not a big gambler you are right about that, so I do not even have influence over anything, I think even the richest gambler on roobet doesn't have that influence, roobet would be sad to see him go but just one person doesn't dictate on what is going to happen. Which means we are talking about something different, a "feedback" here and you have to understand that.

Yes, I will not be gambling here any longer because my feedback is the fact that KYC is forced upon us and I do not want to do that. I am only responsible for saying "I will not be gambling because of KYC rule" and that's it, as long as Roobet sees that and still decides to go on, that’s alright, it is their decision, but what would happen if nobody ever gave any feedbacks to them? That wouldn't be good neither, they should know what we liked and what we hated.

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Quote from: Haunebu on May 04, 2021, 04:08:20 AM

Quote from: arallmuus on May 03, 2021, 05:59:45 PM

Fun fact : majority of Roobet's player dont come from this forum so as I have said. Feel free to comply or find another site instead of debating this pointless stuff all over again

Pointless stuff? Seriously? Hilarious. Everyone are free to express their opinions here which is why you clearly don't have the right to decide what is pointless and what is not.

It is pretty evident that fans of Roobet like you and some others have no issues with the KYC requirements, but the truth is that there will always be people who have issues with these requirements due to the crypto anonymity factor.

We’re talking about KYC here since its fully implemented, yet we didn’t hear a thing from OP and this issue is a big thing for those gambler who are using Roobet since then and didn’t want to provide any KYC at all, that’s why you can hear them raising their voice here and that’s normal because of that big change. Yes, we have choices here and gamblers have to make their decision for the benefit of his own security.

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Quote from: panjul07 on May 06, 2021, 10:57:01 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on May 04, 2021, 04:08:20 AM

It is pretty evident that fans of Roobet like you and some others have no issues with the KYC requirements, but the truth is that there will always be people who have issues with these requirements due to the crypto anonymity factor.

If those who are against the KYC are very active players at roobet, then I'm quite sure roobet will consider to do something.
But if most of the complains are coming from this forum member who are not even playing at roobet, there is no good reasons for roobet to consider about the complains.
I myself not a really active player at roobet, so I do not really care about the KYC as I have not filled it (at least for now).
Believe it or not KYC will be something common in this crypto industry in the future and the anonymity of crypto is reduced from time to time slowly but sure.
We have seen it ourselves, when there was no KYC at all in the past for any services including exchanges but now almost all exchanges requires KYC.
The same happen in crypto gambling industry. Although I'm one of those who are against the KYC but we cant do nothing.
Users are indeed free to express their opinion, but decision is on the owner of the platform.
There must be a valid reason why a service started to ask KYC from their users in order to continue using the services.

Changes made in the regulation policies where they got license can be the reason for this KYC requirement but even if Roobet wants to cancel it, they can't as long as they are running the site based on that license. I don't know where the Roobet will ask opinions about these KYC since you claims that forum is not the best place because members here are not gambling there.

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Quote from: Haunebu on May 04, 2021, 04:08:20 AM

It is pretty evident that fans of Roobet like you and some others have no issues with the KYC requirements, but the truth is that there will always be people who have issues with these requirements due to the crypto anonymity factor.

If those who are against the KYC are very active players at roobet, then I'm quite sure roobet will consider to do something.
But if most of the complains are coming from this forum member who are not even playing at roobet, there is no good reasons for roobet to consider about the complains.
I myself not a really active player at roobet, so I do not really care about the KYC as I have not filled it (at least for now).
Believe it or not KYC will be something common in this crypto industry in the future and the anonymity of crypto is reduced from time to time slowly but sure.
We have seen it ourselves, when there was no KYC at all in the past for any services including exchanges but now almost all exchanges requires KYC.
The same happen in crypto gambling industry. Although I'm one of those who are against the KYC but we cant do nothing.
Users are indeed free to express their opinion, but decision is on the owner of the platform.
There must be a valid reason why a service started to ask KYC from their users in order to continue using the services.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 05, 2021, 03:32:24 PM

...the SEC is also in constant motion monitoring possible money laundering, although casinos have nothing to do with it, some may see it as the perfect platform to manipulate large amounts of money, they see it as ideal, I know that KYC is something that nobody likes, but because others damage the site making some movements using the platform can look bad, it is already very difficult to remain anonymous, very few guarantee this.

As Roobet is not available in the U.S. anyway, the SEC doesn't have jurisdiction in this matter.

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 05, 2021, 03:32:24 PM

Source: https://getid.ee/a-guide-to-identity-verification-for-online-casinos/

Thank you for bringing this article to our attention. This supports my argument that Roobet may not have a legal justification for requesting my personal information as I am an EU citizen.

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European Union

The key pieces of legislation that guides AML and KYC compliance for EU online casino users are the EU 4th Money Laundering Directive and the Prevention of Money Laundering Act (Malta).

These two directives outline pretty similar AML policies to the USA and UK but are a little more lenient on KYC. According to EU law, KYC procedures aren’t triggered until players deposit over 2000 EUR into an online casino account.

General Data Protection Regulation Article 5(1)(c) states that personal data shall be "adequate, relevant and limited to what is necessary in relation to the purposes for which they are processed." So, personal data that is excessive or unnecessary cannot be collected and processed. So all they should ask for is my age (to confirm that I am of legal age) and my country of residence (which they can determine anyway via my IP address). Everything else is excessive, IMHO.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on May 06, 2021, 08:13:45 AM

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Still depends on the roobet team if they want to consider mostly our suggestion because this kind of KYC is part of their another layer of security for their users but the same case is they want to avoid being known but the essence of being anonymous will be gone. Adopt the change or leave. They are one of the top and they want to be stay on it because of being secure.

Exactly, it still depends. @Peanutswar is right, you either leave or stay because that's how the things are going to be and I don't think that Roobet won't care if you choose to leave because they are still going to get a lot of customer. The plight of this KYC thing is that, a lot of cyber attacks that caused data leak and companies selling data to other company has become a thing in this digital age so I get the plight.

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Quote from: zanezane on May 06, 2021, 12:03:18 AM

Quote from: Text on May 05, 2021, 11:20:53 PM

That’s right, Roobet should also hear and know the side of their players especially on the issue and grievance about this change. But I think, it is that it really is and should just be accepted. We can do nothing but follow. That is if you do not agree with this change you still have the freedom to choose whether to continue with their site or not. Yes, Roobet is one of the best crypto gambling sites here on the forum, a fast-growing casino indeed. But if you don't want KYC, the decision is up to you.

If we just roll with it and consider things as it is what it is then there is no point in Roobet hearing the side of their players. To be blunt, I believe that hearing suggestions from your diverse player base is going to be problematic since you can't please everyone.

Still depends on the roobet team if they want to consider mostly our suggestion because this kind of KYC is part of their another layer of security for their users but the same case is they want to avoid being known but the essence of being anonymous will be gone. Adopt the change or leave. They are one of the top and they want to be stay on it because of being secure.

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Quote from: arallmuus on May 03, 2021, 05:59:45 PM

Fun fact : majority of Roobet's player dont come from this forum so as I have said. Feel free to comply or find another site instead of debating this pointless stuff all over again

Actually it doesnt matter if the players are from in this forum or outside because the thing is Crypto gamblers wants or love staying private that's why they seemingly looking for those site that has no implementing KYC thing.
But you are also correct that if you don't feel like complying then find other site aside from Roobet.

But the way i see it? just after few weeks of this strict implementation? Roobet Site already recovers back now ,before the implementation(though this was written in their TOS from the start) the daily wager goes from 6-7 million but when the issue arise it lowers from 5-6 million but now? it looks like the wagering goes back to what it is and goin strong daily to 6-7illion .

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Quote from: dezoel on May 03, 2021, 01:46:13 PM

Quote from: Kittygalore on May 03, 2021, 05:33:18 AM

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Why? Why do we must support that decision, is it a must? I mean there are other websites where you do not have to fill out a KYC form and can still gamble with fun, why would we must pick this place? I personally can tell you that I am not really interested in giving my KYC and that is why it has been a talk here for this long.

This place found some money, became rich, and they wanted to get KYC of everyone and become very legit because they wanted to use those millions of dollars they made from gamblers into their luxurious life and didn't care about how that would impact the future of this project because they already made insane amount of profit anyway. Long story short I am not gambling here anymore because it requires KYC, considering how many places in the world bans online gambling, I would advise anyone who lives in those kinds of nations to stay away from this place as well.

We have to support the decision because we don't have a choice, if we can bully Roobet into removing KYC which is probably not going to happen. I mean, if you don't want to play there because of KYC then that's on you, it's not like you are their biggest and only customer, other people will not be the same as you.

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Quote from: Text on May 05, 2021, 11:20:53 PM

That’s right, Roobet should also hear and know the side of their players especially on the issue and grievance about this change. But I think, it is that it really is and should just be accepted. We can do nothing but follow. That is if you do not agree with this change you still have the freedom to choose whether to continue with their site or not. Yes, Roobet is one of the best crypto gambling sites here on the forum, a fast-growing casino indeed. But if you don't want KYC, the decision is up to you.

If we just roll with it and consider things as it is what it is then there is no point in Roobet hearing the side of their players. To be blunt, I believe that hearing suggestions from your diverse player base is going to be problematic since you can't please everyone.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on May 05, 2021, 10:32:31 PM

Still, its good to have feedback from the users too so the developer team can make a conclusion or response about the users need even though small gamblers don't want to tell their identity because of this KYC but at the end of the day they are the one who is free to change another site if they want if the player disregards the LVL 1 KYC it's just okay but for sure they will think which is more important your information or your gambling habit. The decision to change this feature are still on the roobet team because they propose this for another layer of security not just having a good time for their players.

That’s right, Roobet should also hear and know the side of their players especially on the issue and grievance about this change. But I think, it is that it really is and should just be accepted. We can do nothing but follow. That is if you do not agree with this change you still have the freedom to choose whether to continue with their site or not. Yes, Roobet is one of the best crypto gambling sites here on the forum, a fast-growing casino indeed. But if you don't want KYC, the decision is up to you.

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Quote from: numanoid on May 03, 2021, 08:36:45 PM

Quote from: arallmuus on May 03, 2021, 05:59:45 PM

Fun fact : majority of Roobet's player dont come from this forum so as I have said. Feel free to comply or find another site instead of debating this pointless stuff all over again

Do you want to know other Fun fact about KYC on roobet? Most of people who complained on here didn't even betting on roobet. They were joined and created an account on roobet before, but when this KYC thing pop up, they just try to login and see whatever the KYC box pop up or not, then bring this stuff on this forum

Still, its good to have feedback from the users too so the developer team can make a conclusion or response about the users need even though small gamblers don't want to tell their identity because of this KYC but at the end of the day they are the one who is free to change another site if they want if the player disregards the LVL 1 KYC it's just okay but for sure they will think which is more important your information or your gambling habit. The decision to change this feature are still on the roobet team because they propose this for another layer of security not just having a good time for their players.

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