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Topic: Ross Ulbricht faces a potential life sentence starting tomorrow. (Read 14018 times)

legendary
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At any time, all Ross need do is to give a written notice to the court that he is not the defendant. "At one time I thought it was to my benefit to accept the accusation that I was the defendant. But I now see the error of my ways, and, as a man, I am not the defendant."

If he presses this point, it may take a long time for them to accept that they have jurisdiction over him as a man. If he does it right, they will never gain jurisdiction.

Smiley
newbie
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he is a amzing person i really proud know about him
owner silkroad
newbie
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He amazing and brave person
silkroad doesnt need give a big punishment for him
sr. member
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Merit: 250

If it is true he deserves the prize of dumbest criminal of the recent history

i think he already won with:

- living in the USA, i guess you shouldn't if you run Silk Road
- manage it from a public cafe, open laptop with no encryption
- paying a hitman on internet, proving the crime with a picture (loal)

if he really was the admin, he must be the winner for that prize

Ross is a complete paradox. I think he's a mastermind in some respects and obviously very clever, though it is clear he has also done some ridiculously stupid things. If you're going to run something like a darknet market you need to make sure you're paranoid to the point where it becomes an obsession for you to cover every single one of your tracks. He seemed like he didn't care about certain things and was very sloppy. He didn't even bother mixing his coins and they were traced directly to SR from his own wallet. Very foolish.
full member
Activity: 134
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If it is true he deserves the prize of dumbest criminal of the recent history

i think he already won with:

- living in the USA, i guess you shouldn't if you run Silk Road
- manage it from a public cafe, open laptop with no encryption
- paying a hitman on internet, proving the crime with a picture (loal)

if he really was the admin, he must be the winner for that prize
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 500
Feel bad for the dude and how bad he has made bitcoin look. His private keys are completely wiped right? Or does he still have BTC that he is not giving up yet.

Officially he doesn't have any btc left. It is very possible that the official version is true or that he doesn't have any substantial amount of btc left.
legendary
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https://www.bitcoin.com/
Anyone read this yet, interesting.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ulkv7/read_the_transcript_of_silk_roads_boss_ordering_5/

Edit: Reading though this a lot just dosen't add up.
It's not until a few messages in that DPR ask R&W if he knows how to use PGP, do you really think someone running a site as big and illegal as silk road would talk about this sort of business over normal email or whatever message service they were using at the time.
R&W says he know about PGP and uses it in his daily business.
Just all seems fake to me, but as they say truth can be stranger than fiction.
sr. member
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Ever wanted to run your own casino? PM me for info
Feel bad for the dude and how bad he has made bitcoin look. His private keys are completely wiped right? Or does he still have BTC that he is not giving up yet.
hero member
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Merit: 500
Smoke weed everyday!
How do you know he hasn't got any bitcoins left? Surely he didn't keep all of his coins on his laptop and has some others stashed somewhere?
In theory he could have some amount of bitcoin left, however I would find it somewhat unlikely. More or less all of Ross's property has been thoroughly searched by law enforcement. If there were private keys in digital format then they would likely have been found by now.

This would leave the possibility of Ross holding the private keys in his brain via a brain wallet, however I would find this unlikely as Ross does not seem to be the kind of person who has advanced knowledge to properly secure a brain wallet
member
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He's looking at 15-20, gets out after 12 and finds his bitcoins worth trillion dollars Cheesy Happy life

How many does he even have left? Didn't they confiscate most of them? I'm sure he'd probably give them all up though if he could spare himself jail. Ross doesn't seem the type of guy cut out for prison.
He doesn't have any bitcoin left. The FBI was able to confiscate 144k BTC from his laptop when he was arrested.

His bitcoin is worth roughly $50 million now, although the government did sell a portion of it at a higher price then it is trading at now so the total value may be somewhat higher

However if he ends up spending any time in jail then he will likely not ever see a penny of the money that was found on his laptop

How do you know he hasn't got any bitcoins left? Surely he didn't keep all of his coins on his laptop and has some others stashed somewhere?
sr. member
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He's looking at 15-20, gets out after 12 and finds his bitcoins worth trillion dollars Cheesy Happy life

How many does he even have left? Didn't they confiscate most of them? I'm sure he'd probably give them all up though if he could spare himself jail. Ross doesn't seem the type of guy cut out for prison.
He doesn't have any bitcoin left. The FBI was able to confiscate 144k BTC from his laptop when he was arrested.

His bitcoin is worth roughly $50 million now, although the government did sell a portion of it at a higher price then it is trading at now so the total value may be somewhat higher

However if he ends up spending any time in jail then he will likely not ever see a penny of the money that was found on his laptop
member
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Can't help but feel a bit sorry for him.

No doubt what he did was wrong but he seems like a decent guy - apart from the planned murder of course...that's not so decent.

First post here, I'm usually at -other bitcoin forum-

Wonder if he has any assets tucked away? No doubt the money was a factor but it seems like he had ideals and a sense of adventure that turned him down this path.



Ross did nothing wrong. I'd have whacked those sonsabitches too. Somebody give Jack Welker a call!
full member
Activity: 259
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He's looking at 15-20, gets out after 12 and finds his bitcoins worth trillion dollars Cheesy Happy life

How many does he even have left? Didn't they confiscate most of them? I'm sure he'd probably give them all up though if he could spare himself jail. Ross doesn't seem the type of guy cut out for prison.

He seems like an idiot for getting caught but I'm sure he managed to hide a few private keys in his granddad's basement. 
sr. member
Activity: 324
Merit: 250
He's looking at 15-20, gets out after 12 and finds his bitcoins worth trillion dollars Cheesy Happy life

How many does he even have left? Didn't they confiscate most of them? I'm sure he'd probably give them all up though if he could spare himself jail. Ross doesn't seem the type of guy cut out for prison.
full member
Activity: 259
Merit: 100
He's looking at 15-20, gets out after 12 and finds his bitcoins worth trillion dollars Cheesy Happy life
sr. member
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Merit: 250
If he gets 10 years although its BS that would be good news for him, with good behavior he can be out in under 7 years ? something like that.  Sucks though.

Ha, he wishes he's get offered ten years. He's going to get 30-to-life unless his defense can work miracles. Being a major facilitator of every drug you can imagine, laundering millions and attempting to get people assassinated is going to get him more than a slap on the wrist.
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1000

check out this review of the 2nd week in the trial so far, doesnt look gr8 for ross.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20dmQlJFPZo

I don't even think the prosecution offered a deal to the defense.
Plea deals are very rarely (probably never) made public prior to them being accepted by both the judge and the defendant. He probably would not take any plea deal regardless as it would probably involve him giving up his rights to the almost $50 million worth of bitcoin, added to the fact that the allegations against him will essentially make him unemployable for the rest of his life. He essentially needs to go all in....all or nothing.....

If they offer 10 years and lost of bitcoins it would seem like a reasonable deal to consider for the defense but Ulbricht probably want to fight for justice and freedom.

If he gets 10 years although its BS that would be good news for him, with good behavior he can be out in under 7 years ? something like that.  Sucks though.
hero member
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The guy is so fucked its not even funny.

He's gone. Accept it.
alc
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I didn't find that anywhere and i think it's bullshit that someone under this big operation that he had enought money just from running the site, why would he risk the dealing?
Makes no sense Wink
It wasn't a big operation, the mushrooms were the first product on the site and that's exactly why he was growing them in the first place.

Go read the journal, it's interesting. It's also interesting to compare the early verbose, idealistic diary of 2011 against his later notes on running the site in 2013, the latter of which (if genuine) are quite chilling. Routine stuff about DDoS attacks and PHP upgrades and whatnot is punctuated with statements like "arranged hit with angels" as though arranging a murder was just another entry on the day's to-do list.
hero member
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check out this review of the 2nd week in the trial so far, doesnt look gr8 for ross.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20dmQlJFPZo

I don't even think the prosecution offered a deal to the defense.
Plea deals are very rarely (probably never) made public prior to them being accepted by both the judge and the defendant. He probably would not take any plea deal regardless as it would probably involve him giving up his rights to the almost $50 million worth of bitcoin, added to the fact that the allegations against him will essentially make him unemployable for the rest of his life. He essentially needs to go all in....all or nothing.....

If they offer 10 years and lost of bitcoins it would seem like a reasonable deal to consider for the defense but Ulbricht probably want to fight for justice and freedom.
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