check out this review of the 2nd week in the trial so far, doesnt look gr8 for ross.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20dmQlJFPZo
I don't even think the prosecution offered a deal to the defense.
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January 28, 2015, 01:05:02 AM
check out this review of the 2nd week in the trial so far, doesnt look gr8 for ross.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20dmQlJFPZo
I don't even think the prosecution offered a deal to the defense.
January 27, 2015, 08:19:29 AM
He is likely to get sentenced but he will appeal.
Well, all convicted criminals appeal their sentence, usually with little to no success.
He is indicted in a murder-for-hire in Maryland additionaly, which can still be used.
"Ulbricht allegedly agreed to pay $80,000 for the hit, half in advance and half when he had "proof" it was done.
But he was dealing with an undercover agent (UC) the whole time, and the authorities fooled him with staged images:
On or about February 21, 2013, Ross Ulbricht communicated with the UC via the Internet, to discuss the murder of the Employee. The UC told Ross Ulbricht that the Employee "died of asphyxiation/heart rupture" while being tortured. Via the Internet, the UC transmitted a staged photograph that purported to depict the Employee's dead body.
Ulbricht, upon receipt of the fake picture, then wired the other $40,000. "I'm pissed I had to kill him but what's done is done," he said, according to the indictment." - http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/10/ross-ulbricht-silk-road-murder-plot-indictment.html
It is horrible if he really did that but I think we don't have all the needed informations to make a clear judgment in this case.
Why not pay in Bitcoin, instead of wiring money
And why send the money before verifying by other means that the dude died, since the image might be faked
If it is true he deserves the prize of dumbest criminal of the recent history
January 27, 2015, 07:58:19 AM
check out this review of the 2nd week in the trial so far, doesnt look gr8 for ross.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20dmQlJFPZo
I don't even think the prosecution offered a deal to the defense.
January 27, 2015, 07:37:31 AM
check out this review of the 2nd week in the trial so far, doesnt look gr8 for ross.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20dmQlJFPZo
January 27, 2015, 07:25:22 AM
He is likely to get sentenced but he will appeal.
Well, all convicted criminals appeal their sentence, usually with little to no success.
He is indicted in a murder-for-hire in Maryland additionaly, which can still be used.
"Ulbricht allegedly agreed to pay $80,000 for the hit, half in advance and half when he had "proof" it was done.
But he was dealing with an undercover agent (UC) the whole time, and the authorities fooled him with staged images:
On or about February 21, 2013, Ross Ulbricht communicated with the UC via the Internet, to discuss the murder of the Employee. The UC told Ross Ulbricht that the Employee "died of asphyxiation/heart rupture" while being tortured. Via the Internet, the UC transmitted a staged photograph that purported to depict the Employee's dead body.
Ulbricht, upon receipt of the fake picture, then wired the other $40,000. "I'm pissed I had to kill him but what's done is done," he said, according to the indictment." - http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/10/ross-ulbricht-silk-road-murder-plot-indictment.html
It is horrible if he really did that but I think we don't have all the needed informations to make a clear judgment in this case.
January 26, 2015, 08:34:46 PM
Can't help but feel a bit sorry for him.
No doubt what he did was wrong but he seems like a decent guy - apart from the planned murder of course...that's not so decent.
First post here, I'm usually at -other bitcoin forum-
Wonder if he has any assets tucked away? No doubt the money was a factor but it seems like he had ideals and a sense of adventure that turned him down this path.
No doubt what he did was wrong but he seems like a decent guy - apart from the planned murder of course...that's not so decent.
First post here, I'm usually at -other bitcoin forum-
Wonder if he has any assets tucked away? No doubt the money was a factor but it seems like he had ideals and a sense of adventure that turned him down this path.
January 26, 2015, 07:39:24 PM
He is likely to get sentenced but he will appeal.
Well, all convicted criminals appeal their sentence, usually with little to no success.
He is indicted in a murder-for-hire in Maryland additionaly, which can still be used.
"Ulbricht allegedly agreed to pay $80,000 for the hit, half in advance and half when he had "proof" it was done.
But he was dealing with an undercover agent (UC) the whole time, and the authorities fooled him with staged images:
On or about February 21, 2013, Ross Ulbricht communicated with the UC via the Internet, to discuss the murder of the Employee. The UC told Ross Ulbricht that the Employee "died of asphyxiation/heart rupture" while being tortured. Via the Internet, the UC transmitted a staged photograph that purported to depict the Employee's dead body.
Ulbricht, upon receipt of the fake picture, then wired the other $40,000. "I'm pissed I had to kill him but what's done is done," he said, according to the indictment." - http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/10/ross-ulbricht-silk-road-murder-plot-indictment.html
January 26, 2015, 07:15:08 PM
he is young...he did what he did but I think 15 year or even 10 years is too much... 10 years of prison it's not 10 years on a beach.
January 26, 2015, 02:49:14 PM
He is likely to get sentenced but he will appeal.
Well, all convicted criminals appeal their sentence, usually with little to no success.
He is indicted in a murder-for-hire in Maryland additionaly, which can still be used.
"Ulbricht allegedly agreed to pay $80,000 for the hit, half in advance and half when he had "proof" it was done.
But he was dealing with an undercover agent (UC) the whole time, and the authorities fooled him with staged images:
On or about February 21, 2013, Ross Ulbricht communicated with the UC via the Internet, to discuss the murder of the Employee. The UC told Ross Ulbricht that the Employee "died of asphyxiation/heart rupture" while being tortured. Via the Internet, the UC transmitted a staged photograph that purported to depict the Employee's dead body.
Ulbricht, upon receipt of the fake picture, then wired the other $40,000. "I'm pissed I had to kill him but what's done is done," he said, according to the indictment." - http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/10/ross-ulbricht-silk-road-murder-plot-indictment.html
January 26, 2015, 09:58:55 AM
He didn't sell these drug himself so..
Kind of like the drug cartel boss who doesnt sell drugs himself either..By the way from what I read about the trial is he sold illegal magic mushrooms himself.
My guess is he'll get a 25-to-life sentence.
He is likely to get sentenced but he will appeal.
January 26, 2015, 09:52:06 AM
He did actually provide safety for drug addicted users instread of harassing them.
Source for that shrooms claim?
It was in his journal as read by the prosecutor.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/253356971/Ubricht-Trial-Day-5
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24900303/1-14-cr-00068-2015-01-22.pdf
His defense attorney is definitely looking to reduce the charges rather than a not guilty verdict.
Yeah I searched for it too, couldnt find much.
Quote from the journal the FBI found in his laptop, presented in court in trial's 5th day:
"The next couple of months, I sold about 10 lbs of shrooms through my site. Some orders were as small as a gram, and others were in the qp range. Before long, I completely sold out. "
Makes no sense
January 26, 2015, 09:46:08 AM
He did actually provide safety for drug addicted users instread of harassing them.
Source for that shrooms claim?
It was in his journal as read by the prosecutor.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/253356971/Ubricht-Trial-Day-5
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24900303/1-14-cr-00068-2015-01-22.pdf
His defense attorney is definitely looking to reduce the charges rather than a not guilty verdict.
Yeah I searched for it too, couldnt find much.
Quote from the journal the FBI found in his laptop, presented in court in trial's 5th day:
"The next couple of months, I sold about 10 lbs of shrooms through my site. Some orders were as small as a gram, and others were in the qp range. Before long, I completely sold out. "
January 26, 2015, 08:32:10 AM
He did actually provide safety for drug addicted users instread of harassing them.
Source for that shrooms claim?
It was in his journal as read by the prosecutor.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/253356971/Ubricht-Trial-Day-5
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24900303/1-14-cr-00068-2015-01-22.pdf
His defense attorney is definitely looking to reduce the charges rather than a not guilty verdict.
Yeah I searched for it too, couldnt find much.
January 26, 2015, 08:31:50 AM
He did actually provide safety for drug addicted users instread of harassing them.
Source for that shrooms claim?
It was in his journal as read by the prosecutor.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/253356971/Ubricht-Trial-Day-5
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24900303/1-14-cr-00068-2015-01-22.pdf
His defense attorney is definitely looking to reduce the charges rather than a not guilty verdict.
still fundraising for remaining transcripts as they are expensive...
Here is info about shrooms from journalist -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20dmQlJFPZo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbS24ul7mCE
or if you are familiar with google you could type in "ross ulbrict mushrooms" and get this:
http://www.wired.com/2015/01/richard-bates-ross-ulbricht-silk-road/
http://www.wsj.com/articles/prosecutors-say-ross-ulbrichts-journal-reveals-secret-double-life-1421883488
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/01/silk-road-trial-fbi-reveals-whats-on-ross-ulbrichts-computer-in-open-court/
January 26, 2015, 08:26:43 AM
He did actually provide safety for drug addicted users instread of harassing them.
Source for that shrooms claim?
It was in his journal as read by the prosecutor.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/253356971/Ubricht-Trial-Day-5
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24900303/1-14-cr-00068-2015-01-22.pdf
His defense attorney is definitely looking to reduce the charges rather than a not guilty verdict.
January 26, 2015, 08:15:21 AM
If all that can be proven is that he was running Silk Road then the major concern is that he was really nothing more then a forum operator. Although he was marketing his forum to people trading illegal drugs he should not be held responsible for what was sold on it
He was in it for the $$$ - get rich quick.
Yeah I agree..! It was set up to assist drug dealers n stuff... Which is a crime! He should have had been more careful in this kinda stuff.. Should have named the categories a bit more vaguely.. He could have escaped done years time with that for sure!
January 26, 2015, 08:10:01 AM
He did actually provide safety for drug addicted users instread of harassing them.
Source for that shrooms claim?
It was in his journal as read by the prosecutor.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/253356971/Ubricht-Trial-Day-5
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24900303/1-14-cr-00068-2015-01-22.pdf
His defense attorney is definitely looking to reduce the charges rather than a not guilty verdict.
January 26, 2015, 07:56:52 AM
He didn't sell these drug himself so..
Kind of like the drug cartel boss who doesnt sell drugs himself either..By the way from what I read about the trial is he sold illegal magic mushrooms himself.
My guess is he'll get a 25-to-life sentence.
Source for that shrooms claim?
January 26, 2015, 07:35:13 AM
He didn't sell these drug himself so..
Kind of like the drug cartel boss who doesnt sell drugs himself either..By the way from what I read about the trial is he sold illegal magic mushrooms himself.
My guess is he'll get a 25-to-life sentence.
January 26, 2015, 06:38:38 AM
Facebook fights the drug selling when Silk Road was not but if R.H sold R.H early on he should not get a life sentence. A deal with the prosecution and a 5 years in jail sentence would seem like an acceptable deal for both parties at this point with the very limited informations I have.
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