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Topic: Ross Ulbricht faces a potential life sentence starting tomorrow. - page 6. (Read 14073 times)

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They caught this dude red handed at a library with his computer admin panel still up.  Lol.  He's toast.

You can get 25 years for serving a couple pounds of cocaine.  Running a billion+ dollar cp/drug society = he won't be seeing daylight for most likely the majority of his adult life. 

His only, and I mean only hope to escape a life sentence is if they offer him some kind of plea deal where he works with the fbi to crack down against illicit btc operations.   Which, I could actually see happening.
I don't see the government offering any kind of plea deal in exchange for corporation to help take down others. The reason those kinds of plea deals are made is to try to convict "bigger fish" however the operator of Silk Road1 is pretty much the biggest fish in the online illegal drug world.

I would say his chances of being found not guilty would lie on the chances that evidence will be thrown out because it was obtained illegally

That's a good point.  They may just throw the book at him in order to set a precedence and try and cast a public black eye on the currency.  We all know how the US government generally feels about cryptos right now..
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They caught this dude red handed at a library with his computer admin panel still up.  Lol.  He's toast.

You can get 25 years for serving a couple pounds of cocaine.  Running a billion+ dollar cp/drug society = he won't be seeing daylight for most likely the majority of his adult life. 

His only, and I mean only hope to escape a life sentence is if they offer him some kind of plea deal where he works with the fbi to crack down against illicit btc operations.   Which, I could actually see happening.
I don't see the government offering any kind of plea deal in exchange for corporation to help take down others. The reason those kinds of plea deals are made is to try to convict "bigger fish" however the operator of Silk Road1 is pretty much the biggest fish in the online illegal drug world.

I would say his chances of being found not guilty would lie on the chances that evidence will be thrown out because it was obtained illegally
legendary
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All the best Ross, you got a long road ahead of you mate.
Fuck all the people here putting you down, you didn't push drugs, you helped people who wanted to score get them and that should not be a crime in my books, ok maybe you went a bit over the top with hiring the hitman (if true) but still a legend to many.

Try get a hold of a laptop or mobile while inside and tells us the truth, you still have a lot of support in the community.
Keep your spirits up!
lmao...I'm just wondering what kind of shuffling gait the inmate that managed to successfully keister a netbook into prison would look like.

As for DPR's plight.  I suspect he will have the proverbial book thrown at him to be sure.  They will try and make an example out of him to dissuade potential future DPR's from taking his place.
Well obviously your jails are more secure than ours her because whatever you want the warden will bring it in for you, at a price.

This seems like good timing, Ross goes to trial today and silk road is back online as silkroadreloaded.i2p.
legendary
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All the best Ross, you got a long road ahead of you mate.
Fuck all the people here putting you down, you didn't push drugs, you helped people who wanted to score get them and that should not be a crime in my books, ok maybe you went a bit over the top with hiring the hitman (if true) but still a legend to many.

Try get a hold of a laptop or mobile while inside and tells us the truth, you still have a lot of support in the community.
Keep your spirits up!
lmao...I'm just wondering what kind of shuffling gait the inmate that managed to successfully keister a netbook into prison would look like.

As for DPR's plight.  I suspect he will have the proverbial book thrown at him to be sure.  They will try and make an example out of him to dissuade potential future DPR's from taking his place.
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They caught the dude swith his laptop open signed in as administrator. He was facilitating the sale of drugs online and not paying taxes on his earnings.

Last time I checked those are serious crimes.

He knew what he was doing and took the risk anyway.

Don't cry for him.

Good for him, he was an important instrument in taking drugs and violence off the streets and providing a valuable service to millions.

Oh I agree. The only thing that pisses me off about what he did is that he wasn't (or couldn't) pay taxes on his earnings. But what we "think" or "feel" is irrelevant. There are laws, and he broke them. He was not a freedom fighter he was an opportunists. He did it for the money. Don't fool yourself.
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They caught the dude swith his laptop open signed in as administrator. He was facilitating the sale of drugs online and not paying taxes on his earnings.

Last time I checked those are serious crimes.

He knew what he was doing and took the risk anyway.

Don't cry for him.

They are not crimes. People might call them crimes, but they are not.

They are code violations. Unless he is employed by government, or unless he is a government official, or unless he has signed a contract with government to not do what he did, he is not liable for code violations.

Nobody is liable for code violations without a contract. People are only liable for "wrongdoing," which is harming someone or damaging his property. The reason government wins in cases like this is, few people stand up as a man/woman and require their rights.

Smiley

You are wrong. You sound like one of those redemption theory pseudolegal conspiracy theorists. He broke laws. Whether or not you agree is irrelevant.
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^^^ trolls will troll and we will all continue to feed them.. sad but true. 

dpr was a crook, fact.

no freedom fighter can deny it deep down, no matter what society you look at. 

sad thing is, the crook thought he was so secure that he left everything open. 

he deserves to fry to teach other crooks to be more careful in this modern age of "the hacker can get hacked"

Mighty Dready is freedom

"If somebody crosses my line, I will be the one to decide their punishment" ~Gaahl~

Take that non-aggression principle shit, and stick it back up your arse.
tss
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^^^ trolls will troll and we will all continue to feed them.. sad but true. 

dpr was a crook, fact.

no freedom fighter can deny it deep down, no matter what society you look at. 

sad thing is, the crook thought he was so secure that he left everything open. 

he deserves to fry to teach other crooks to be more careful in this modern age of "the hacker can get hacked"
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They caught this dude red handed at a library with his computer admin panel still up.  Lol.  He's toast.

You can get 25 years for serving a couple pounds of cocaine.  Running a billion+ dollar cp/drug society = he won't be seeing daylight for most likely the majority of his adult life. 

His only, and I mean only hope to escape a life sentence is if they offer him some kind of plea deal where he works with the fbi to crack down against illicit btc operations.   Which, I could actually see happening.

If Mighty Dready rats....he will get shanked in prison...and I will laugh.

BUT NO! The chosen one WILL NOT RAT. The force is strong with him.
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They caught this dude red handed at a library with his computer admin panel still up.  Lol.  He's toast.

You can get 25 years for serving a couple pounds of cocaine.  Running a billion+ dollar cp/drug society = he won't be seeing daylight for most likely the majority of his adult life. 

His only, and I mean only hope to escape a life sentence is if they offer him some kind of plea deal where he works with the fbi to crack down against illicit btc operations.   Which, I could actually see happening.
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legendary
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You don't doubt that he's the mastermind yet you think he should get off easy?  He's a criminal that probably deserves to spend a very long time in prison.

And you are monumetally stupid.
Nah, there could be a plethora of masterminds and this trial, I'd like to think, will get to the bottom of the whole situation. If Ross really is a libertarian, I can't believe he'd be liable for a murder-hire as the NAP wouldn't stand up under this.
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You don't doubt that he's the mastermind yet you think he should get off easy?  He's a criminal that probably deserves to spend a very long time in prison.

And you are monumetally stupid.
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I watched it and do not believe this story happened because insulting a judge multiple times and being insolent in traffic court is unlikely to ever win. There is a conflict of interest here because Karl is selling a story which is selling his business. Either Karl needs to provide video or audio evidence of these cases or I would like to see examples from third parties with evidence of cases like I have provided.

Additionally, I hope I am wrong and you are right because we have the same goals... I have just seen too many cases where these techniques have been disastrous.

I guess I'm going to have to go with Karl on this one. Kinda like he says in the video, who am I to interfere with what a man/woman believes?

By the way, if Karl needs to prove something, I'm sure he'll do so.

 Cheesy

OMG you and Karl.....can we just help undermine the US' plan to quietly crucify DPR here? This is such a distraction

All right! That's the spirit, sort of. Make some distractions to keep the U.S. from crucifying DPR! Does the U.S. really crucify people? Like on a cross and all that? You said "OMG." He certainly knows what crucifixion is all about.

 Cheesy

EDIT: I know, I know. You really don't want DPR to have success. C'mon, admit it.

I am not sure what meth you are smoking sir, but I will smoke it it with you and support your right to pay for it in BTC and receive it in the the mail.

Aluha Gabrah!
legendary
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I watched it and do not believe this story happened because insulting a judge multiple times and being insolent in traffic court is unlikely to ever win. There is a conflict of interest here because Karl is selling a story which is selling his business. Either Karl needs to provide video or audio evidence of these cases or I would like to see examples from third parties with evidence of cases like I have provided.

Additionally, I hope I am wrong and you are right because we have the same goals... I have just seen too many cases where these techniques have been disastrous.

I guess I'm going to have to go with Karl on this one. Kinda like he says in the video, who am I to interfere with what a man/woman believes?

By the way, if Karl needs to prove something, I'm sure he'll do so.

 Cheesy

OMG you and Karl.....can we just help undermine the US' plan to quietly crucify DPR here? This is such a distraction

All right! That's the spirit, sort of. Make some distractions to keep the U.S. from crucifying DPR! Does the U.S. really crucify people? Like on a cross and all that? You said "OMG." He certainly knows what crucifixion is all about.

 Cheesy

EDIT: I know, I know. You really don't want DPR to have success. C'mon, admit it.
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I watched it and do not believe this story happened because insulting a judge multiple times and being insolent in traffic court is unlikely to ever win. There is a conflict of interest here because Karl is selling a story which is selling his business. Either Karl needs to provide video or audio evidence of these cases or I would like to see examples from third parties with evidence of cases like I have provided.

Additionally, I hope I am wrong and you are right because we have the same goals... I have just seen too many cases where these techniques have been disastrous.

I guess I'm going to have to go with Karl on this one. Kinda like he says in the video, who am I to interfere with what a man/woman believes?

By the way, if Karl needs to prove something, I'm sure he'll do so.

 Cheesy

OMG you and Karl.....can we just help undermine the US' plan to quietly crucify DPR here? This is such a distraction
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373

I watched it and do not believe this story happened because insulting a judge multiple times and being insolent in traffic court is unlikely to ever win. There is a conflict of interest here because Karl is selling a story which is selling his business. Either Karl needs to provide video or audio evidence of these cases or I would like to see examples from third parties with evidence of cases like I have provided.

Additionally, I hope I am wrong and you are right because we have the same goals... I have just seen too many cases where these techniques have been disastrous.

I guess I'm going to have to go with Karl on this one. Kinda like he says in the video, who am I to interfere with what a man/woman believes?

By the way, if Karl needs to prove something, I'm sure he'll do so.

 Cheesy
legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!

None of us want to be in his position now, but I can imagine it was tons of fun for DPR when the times were good.


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Somewhere around here you can find a few people who would love to be "in his position"...

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Well, I'm sure we'll be getting a slew of media articles coming out about this soon so considering how negative the outcome could be for Ross, it could have a positive impact on pricing. However, this could be the perfect opportunity for traders to dump and take us down a notch prior to a launch of some kind. Just speculating of course, wish Ross the best luck possible.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/66fa5a738a3f24e39985084eafe7b203/tumblr_mkcazty7Qi1s5ti09o1_500.gif

legendary
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Well, I'm sure we'll be getting a slew of media articles coming out about this soon so considering how negative the outcome could be for Ross, it could have a positive impact on pricing. However, this could be the perfect opportunity for traders to dump and take us down a notch prior to a launch of some kind. Just speculating of course, wish Ross the best luck possible.
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