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Rugby doesn't exist for for me anymore, after that result. I'm going to need at least five days of not talking about rugby Cheesy. I guess everyone else was right, I still feel the penalties are our undoing despite losing by quite a decent margin. Oh, and also our bloody line outs. I don't think I've ever seen a team that's so consistently poor at line ups. How many times do we lose our put ins on a weekly basis? Seriously, within the first half I think we lost two or three.

We were doing okay too, we had good territory, and in the first half it was being played with the Scottish under pressure. However, we just don't seem to have that attacking flair. We just sort of go through the phases, and it's very flat. Anyway, I expect Italy to give a good game, but ultimately England will walk away with the win.
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Sounds like it was an exciting game.  I'm sorry I wasn't able to catch it.

This week-end there were some preseason games in the Australian NRL which is due to kick off in three or four weeks time.  Already, we've had the usual drunkan brawls and training injuries to keep the journalists in print ink - soon enough it'll be down to the never-ending analysis in the meal rooms and water coolers on this side of the planet.

I'll get the results posted tomorrow.




(later tonight it's England Vs Italy)
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Irish vs the French was one of the best games we've seen in a long time. Although, that yellow card offense; I thought it was a easy red. I didn't really see the mitigation factor of most of the contact hitting the chest, I saw clear direct to the had, and the Irishman actually failed the head assessment, so obviously was concussed from it. You could argue that was from whiplash alone, but there's clear evidence of shoulder to head contact. Quite substantial too.

I imagine the fact that up to that point it was a fast paced, and even game probably factored into the decision. No one wants to ruin a game like that, but ultimately there's was clearly shoulder to head contact. Anyhow, I'm optimistic for the Welsh game, despite being pretty much written off by almost every rugby fan, including the bookies.

Yea great game, plenty of action, line breaks, attack, scramble defense and scoring.

The yellow card offense should indeed have been Red, Wayne Barnes the referee has
historically not been fair to Ireland, not many people here like to see hime refereeing our games.

It was indeed a clear shoulder to head and Im not sure there was any mitigating factor,
that should have been voided by the fact that Herring failed the HIA.

Similar happened to George North of Wales yesterday too, he was hard hit on the head,
referee stopped play quickly when North showed signs of being seriously injured.

The mitigating factor there was that North had lowered into the tackle. I think if
the injured player fails the HIA any mitigating factor should be voided and the
Yellow changed to Red.

....and on to that match itself, Scotland v Wales, Wales kinda carried on from last week,
a lot of errors in the game, 11 visits to the Scottish 22 and only 7 points to show. The
accuracy just wasnt there eventhough they had some great phases of attacking play.

Scotland werent much better early on and I really thought it was at least going to be a
close result.
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Irish vs the French was one of the best games we've seen in a long time. Although, that yellow card offense; I thought it was a easy red. I didn't really see the mitigation factor of most of the contact hitting the chest, I saw clear direct to the had, and the Irishman actually failed the head assessment, so obviously was concussed from it. You could argue that was from whiplash alone, but there's clear evidence of shoulder to head contact. Quite substantial too.

I imagine the fact that up to that point it was a fast paced, and even game probably factored into the decision. No one wants to ruin a game like that, but ultimately there's was clearly shoulder to head contact. Anyhow, I'm optimistic for the Welsh game, despite being pretty much written off by almost every rugby fan, including the bookies.
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$1 bet on Italy @ 9.2 cannot be missed, great value.
The odds on Wales @ 3.25 do a bit of an injustice to them, I think they should be shorter than
that.



First game over, Ireland did the job 32 - 19, bonus point secured and a losing one for France
denied. It was a closer game for 60 minutes than the scoreboard reflects but the last try
from Ringrose closed the door on France.

France again gave away too many errors while defending handing many advantage plays
to Ireland.
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Italy with a handicap of +19.5+ is 1.90 at the moment. That's pretty damn good value for money. You could increase it to get 1.50 at +25.5. Again, not a bad value considering that they pushed France close the other week. They have been getting better recently. I'm not confident enough in putting a Wales handicap down, so will be leaving that off my accumulator, and the same goes for the Ireland game.

My predictions are Wales, Ireland, and England though.
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This week-end in the Men's Six Nation's games I'm going safe again, Ireland, Scotland and England to easily beat their opponents France Wales and Italy.

The Super Rugby Pacific is coming up with the Crusaders ($2.75), Blues ($3) and Chiefs ($5) the top three favoured teams with the Hurricanes ($9) in fourth the only other team that's going for less than $10 to win on the 24th of June.

The Force ($101) Rebels ($126) and Moana Pasifika ($201) are the only three above the $99 threshold.

Right well one thing for sure I'm not doing a parlay this week, I'll be backing Ireland,
I think it will be very close but if Ireland can get on the front foot early they will do it.

I'm going with Wales and.....Italy!

Wales will give Scotland a game. I mean, we weren't awful against Ireland for much of that game. Actually, it was pretty much our own doing. We conceded two tries very early on out of sheer stupidity, and then we continued to give away penalties. Seriously, the amount of penalties that we gave away was disgraceful.

Having said that; if we can eradicate those bloody penalties I see us doing well. We might not beat Scotland, but we won't be rolled over like a lot of users here will think. I think most fans are anticipating a one sided game, and that could well be true. It all depends on what Wales side turns up.

As for France vs Ireland. I'm going with Ireland, simply because I can't not support the fellow celtic nation, that'd be a crime. Especially, so in rugby. Italy, I mean I don't ever expect them to win games so, that goes without saying. Let's just say rugby doesn't tend to be their strong point. Although, someone's going to say it, so I might as well now; they've beaten us recently Tongue.

Yea a high penalty count almost always spells defeat. I would like to see Wales bounce back.

Italy almost did a job on France last week, would live to see them beat England, its a
long shot though.
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Wales will give Scotland a game. I mean, we weren't awful against Ireland for much of that game. Actually, it was pretty much our own doing. We conceded two tries very early on out of sheer stupidity, and then we continued to give away penalties. Seriously, the amount of penalties that we gave away was disgraceful.

Having said that; if we can eradicate those bloody penalties I see us doing well. We might not beat Scotland, but we won't be rolled over like a lot of users here will think. I think most fans are anticipating a one sided game, and that could well be true. It all depends on what Wales side turns up.

As for France vs Ireland. I'm going with Ireland, simply because I can't not support the fellow celtic nation, that'd be a crime. Especially, so in rugby. Italy, I mean I don't ever expect them to win games so, that goes without saying. Let's just say rugby doesn't tend to be their strong point. Although, someone's going to say it, so I might as well now; they've beaten us recently Tongue.
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This week-end in the Men's Six Nation's games I'm going safe again, Ireland, Scotland and England to easily beat their opponents France Wales and Italy.

The Super Rugby Pacific is coming up with the Crusaders ($2.75), Blues ($3) and Chiefs ($5) the top three favoured teams with the Hurricanes ($9) in fourth the only other team that's going for less than $10 to win on the 24th of June.

The Force ($101) Rebels ($126) and Moana Pasifika ($201) are the only three above the $99 threshold.
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Six Nations

The last game last week turned out to be very entertaining, Italy lost only
by 5 points from France who gave away a lot of penalties. we missed the first 30 minutes
but the rest of the game was brilliant, IMO Italy deserved the win more than France, its just
as always Italy failed to capitalise on some great play and phase building for example one of
the very last plays of the game Italy had a penalty in the French 22, Allen kicked for the line
but failed in getting that crucial 5 metre line out, which meant they had a lot of work yo do
to cross the try line, which they didnt.

Anyway week 2 this weekend.

Here are the lineups:



@Timelord2067 - our parlay bets from last weekend got killed by Scotland beating England,
this weekend will have way more value in a parlay bet!

@Welsh - big test for Wales to travel to Murrayfield to play a team who will be still
pumped after beating England last week. Gatland has made changes, how
do you fancy your chances?
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What Ireland thrive on is effective set pieces and recycling the ball at the breakdown quickly,
Wales were obviously targeting the breakdown to slow Irelands ball, only trouble is that
plan has to be precise in itself and wales couldnt make that happen.

In the second half Ireland seemed to defend their 10m line better and as you say Welsh, wales
werent effective in attack there either.



Up next is Italy v France - this should be entertaining, Italys clubs seem to be a bit more competitive
this year in the URC (Benetton particularly) so hopefully they can put in a decent performance
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Wales gave up so many penalties all over the pitch, but what's more infuriating is the amount of times we made errors or gave away a penalty when we were in their 10m line. Ridiculous, I know we were awful in the first half, especially those 20 minutes as mentioned, but that game was actually there for the taking if we didn't perform so badly in the first few minutes. I thought Wales looked the better team in the second half, despite what the score line shows. Ireland, didn't drop their performance all the way through, they were consistent, and consistently good. Wales had the worst start possible, but we actually picked up despite the odds. A few times we should've made more of our attacking runs.

I'm not totally disheartened by that performance. If we can remove the mistakes, then I'd fancy us against anyone. Although, we likely aren't going to win the Six Nations, and France will probably beat us convincingly. I still think there's a chance we can make a good tournament of this.
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Yes good win by Ireland, it was won really in the first 25 minutes. The final score was 10-34.
Wales gave away too many penalties in those first 25 minutes and Ireland were clinical.
In the second half Wales came back into it to score a try and Ireland gave away a few penalties
which Wales couldnt capitalise on.

The match stats read for a close enough game though.





I didnt get to see the second game, England v Scotland but by all accounts it was a
cracking one, close enough with Scotland clinching victory with 5 minutes to go and
killing my parlay!

Final score 23-29
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Ireland, Toulouse, Clermont and Toulon have all won their games so far overnight.  I'll check how the others go later.  (I'm off to a local markets in a little while).
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Right ok pretty much the same odds as I got yesterday. I have a parlay on for the same
3, Ireland, England and France @1.68 - thats rare for me to do a parlay.



Your bet on the URC is for round 15! R14 is 2 weeks away >
https://www.unitedrugby.com/match-centre/202201/14
https://www.unitedrugby.com/match-centre/202201/15



ATM I'm not following the French, English or Japanese leagues.
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Ah, February is the time for the Six Nations, What kind of odds did you get I wonder?

Wonder no more - via tab.com.au



I too would like to see Wales win but am going with the money and betting Ireland over Wales, England overcome Scotland and the French are going to serve up Italy on a plate.

In the United Rugby Championship, I'll go the Sharks ($1.55) over the Stormers ($2.55).

The French Top 14 I always manage to mess up, but here goes:

To win: Toulouse, Brive, Clermont, La Rochelle, Racing Metro 92, Toulon and lastly Bordeaux

In the Japan League One I've gone with a parlay on the favourites for one dollar - Canon Eagles, Spears Kubota, Kobe Steel, Suntory and Shizuoka - payout is just $ 3.88 and does not include the Green Rockets vs Wild Knights game where both sides' betting is suspended (which I haven't seen before)

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Yeh, I put wagers on the six nations quite a while ago not realising that the games weren't on until this weekend. I'll get back into my account and check who I've got a dollar or two on and post some info here overnight.

Nice to see @Welsh stop in for a visit too. ☺️

Ah, February is the time for the Six Nations, What kind of odds did you get I wonder?

Was driving a lot today and got to listed to a lot of Rugby pundits about the first
game tomorrow, Wales v Ireland. The general consensus is that Ireland will win
but it will be tougher than expected and could be close enough.

Wales have the returning coach of Warren Gatland qho has an Irish history and
has played many mind games over the years and have caused Ireland a lot of trouble.

I believe the roof at the Millennium Stadium will be closed so its going to be a real
cauldron of atmosphere.
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Yeh, I put wagers on the six nations quite a while ago not realising that the games weren't on until this weekend. I'll get back into my account and check who I've got a dollar or two on and post some info here overnight.

Nice to see @Welsh stop in for a visit too. ☺️
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Rugby Union - Six Nations

The annual flagship northern hemisphere Rugby Union tournament kicks off tomorrow.



I will go with Ireland and England to win, France are unbackable and will be the
favourites to win the title.

Wales could be tricky for Ireland but the favourites should win.

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That was a great win by Scarlets, 37 - 28, a bottom of the table team slaying a top
of the table. Scarlets were 27-7 up at one stage. @Welsh - do you think they would
have been able to hold off the Bulls if there was more time to go?
It was touch, and go for a while. Bulls really did turn the pressure up, and you could see the Scarlets caving into the pressure. However, they did really well to be honest. Soaked up the pressure, and then sucker punched Bulls right at the end. In fact, they nearly scored a second try towards the end of that game.

As for your question, if the Bulls played like that the whole game, with that amount of pressure the scoreline would've likely been vastly different. However, that's just speculation, the important thing is the Scarlets actually got a pretty decent result, and possibly an unexpected one for most people.

Yes I know, its just speculation, main thing is they got the job done and held on/finished strong.
They are at home again in their next game against the visiting Edinburgh but in between
that the Six Nations will be on.

I was out all day yesterday and wasn't able to see any games yesterday.

Overseas, I got bets on the Leicester, Saracens, Gloucester and London Irish about to play.

Closer to home:

I won on New Zealand, South Africa and Fiji (to win) then lucked out on Australia who were defeated by France. (3/4)




This morning in Sydney 7's Mens, I'm playing it safe with bets on all the favoured sides:

USA to bet Uruguay, Kenya to bet Spain, Canada over Tonga, Argentina to defeat Japan, after yesterday's games I'll say Ireland to win Vs Grt Britain, then New Zealand over rivals France with a close finish between South Africa and Fiji.

Sydney 7's Women:

Last of the big spenders, I've put a dollar on each of the following:

Canada to bet Spain, ever hopeful Grt Britain to bet hosts Australia, Fiji will give Japan a lesson, as will USA over France then the Irish will show the Kiwis how its done.
6666

I got a few winning bets on for the 7's too! I took Ireland to win against Fiji @ 2.47 which
was a great price and they did the job 12-26.

New Zealand are very strong, they are top of bothbMens and Womens tables.

I find it hard to keep on top of the games, who plays who etc. they are short games so its
all happening hard and fast.
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