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There oes seem to be a massive disparity between some of the teams,
and there are some games with unexplainable results, like not to be
able to register a single score after being in the top 3 for 8 games!

We have it in the Six Nations championship every year with Italy, they
are always beaten in every game, there may be an exception some
years, they might win a game. But every year they are able to score
against the top tier teams.



In the PRO14 Rainbow Cup Sportsbet.io listed up the games for this weekend
last night! I put two bets on the Sharks [South Africa] and Leinster [Ireland]
I have 1 of 2 so far, Leinster are still playing and ahead.

EDIT: 2 from 2 - Happy with that.



Didnt do any more bets in the NRL
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This is everything that's wrong ( and right) with this season's winners and loosers:



One team just overruns the other team.




Two games called out of the first three:






Tomorrow is a big day:  Three NRL games along with both the Australian and New Zealand finals of the Rugby Union seasons.

I expect the Reds over the Brumbies and across the ditch, the Crusaders over the Chiefs.
legendary
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Panthers are staying strong! so too (so far are The Eels)
Interesting to hear that snippit about the Rabbitohs coach.



@TheNineClub, Croatia are #45 in the rugby world rankings, FWIW > https://www.world.rugby/tournaments/rankings/mru

In Ireland as I mentioned Rugby is the 4th most popular sport behind our
2 national sports, Gaelic Football (Aussie Rules Football would be the closest game to it),
Hurling and Soccer in 3rd.



@Timelord2067 made a good point that Soccer, Rugby and Cricket are all very
popular games in countries colonised by the English but of course Ireland gained
FULL independence from England in 1937 so we no longer view ourselves as being
in the british isles!

Cricket is not that popular here but we do have a very competitive national team.

Oh and just to add Soccer and Rugby are also very popular in countries outside the
commonwealth and in countries who were not colonised by England, notably France !!!

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At least tonight's game is going to plan:






[quote author=TheNineClub link=topic=5265288.msg56955618#msg56955618 date=1620375722]
I am from Croatia to be exact, so the situation is like that over here. In a similar manner (even tho not on that scale), we too here have the divide where only the north and the south play Rugby. Not much animosity, but yeah... XD

I knew England had a strong rugby following and community but did not know that about Ireland. Good to hear Smiley It actually makes sense, but I am surprised it's  not the second popular. So what's before? Soccer I would guess. Do YOu guys play cricket? ...[/quote]

I don't know too much about Croatia (except for it's troubled past & it's love of soccer).  It's only natural that games such as Rugby, Soccer and Cricket are an integral part of life in the British Isles (and in the Commonwealth Countries as well).  I'm in Australia and every one are "Cricket Tragics".

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So a couple of days when I was going through the ranking, Rabbitohs were in the first or second place? something like that, so this is a surprise. I get it they might lose, but looking just from the highlights, they were played like a fiddle. I could understand the coach's sentiment, but this is ridiculous even from my point of view, but yeah they do mention injuries...

Anyway, since you mentioned the highlights, here they are for anyone else who want's to see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9SB907YMkE

Thanks for the link - it was good to see the multiple Try's being scored.

(Just a reminder, there's no need to quote an entire post, even when makeing a lengthy reply.)

The Rabbitoh's are coached by Wayne Bennett who for some twenty years coached the Brisbane Broncos which meant I heared nothing but how wonderful he is (rolls eyes) given I live in South East Queensland...

Like the Broncos under Bennett, once the team starts to crumble, it's a sand castle falling apart.  I don't think the Rabbitohs will do any good after this.




Just while I've been typing this, the Panther's have upped the score (and we have another game in under an hour)


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Well as regards players, "high tackles" are punished in Rugby Union (dont know about League)
with either a Yellow Card (10 minutes in the Sin Bin) or Red Card (Immediate sending off and
banning of further games)

I know the new competition Pro14 Rainbow Cup is trialling different rules for yellow and red
cards but thats a seperate matter and I would have to look them up again.

As regards player welfare, a player who suffers an injury is removed for HIA assessment
and is deemed to be able to carry on playing or not. If not the player is monitored in the
"Return to play protocol" and is further assessed as to whether he can play sooner or later.

So player welfare is probably top of the list of concerns for  all in Rugby and high tackles
are really punished, (when detected properly)



@TheNineClub from your earlier post you say you are in the Balkans, Romania
have a strong Rugby tradition and I think they are in the top 20 world rankings (Rugby Union)

In relation to Australia and New Zealand there is the long running comparison
between Northern and Southern Hemisphere playing styles, im not sure how
different they are these days but for sure New Zealand whenever playing draw
a lot of interest, it is their #1 sport after all.

I am in Ireland and we have a strong Rugby (union) tradition here eventhough its the 3rd or
4th most popular sport here.

Some fun facts, we have the oldest club in the world which is still in existence
and one of the oldest Rugby grounds in the world was Landsdown Road, now The Aviva Stadium.


Thank you for the extensive answer, and glad to see some changes have been made towards player protection.

I honestly did not know that about Romania, I will definitely check it out. However, Rugby is still not at the level it should be in this region, and not even from the player quality, but more from the support from the local government, cities, and even the small amount of fans. Sad to see.

I am from Croatia to be exact, so the situation is like that over here. In a similar manner (even tho not on that scale), we too here have the divide where only the north and the south play Rugby. Not much animosity, but yeah... XD

I knew England had a strong rugby following and community but did not know that about Ireland. Good to hear Smiley It actually makes sense, but I am surprised it's  not the second popular. So what's before? Soccer I would guess. Do YOu guys play cricket?

I have bets on with my usual top performers, Rabbitohs, Panthers and Eels.

There is great odds on the Rabbitohs because of their only loss in 8 games against Storm as you say, I'm they are not going to relinquish 3rd place on the table, way too much at stake with this game for them, for all 5 at the top end if the table really.

I am so glad I never saw this horror movie / car crash unfolding:



I'm beginning to think a couple of my other pics later in the week are also going to come unraveled in much the same way.  This year has been such a skewered season with half the teams totally blitzing the other half and yet two of the top teams come together and it's a Cluster Fk!

WTF, did only half the Rabbitohs team turn up for the match? Zero, nothing,
no score of any kind registered, did they even get out of their own half?
Luckily I had the sense in one way to only put a small bet on the Rabbitohs

Well I only have The Panthers and Eels backed so I hope they are safe bets.



Just watched the highlights, some finishing by Addo-Carr to bag 6 tries.
and watched the press conference with the Rabbitohs coach, he kinda
mentioned that a defeat was coming based on their last few matches
even though they won them.


So a couple of days when I was going through the ranking, Rabbitohs were in the first or second place? something like that, so this is a surprise. I get it they might lose, but looking just from the highlights, they were played like a fiddle. I could understand the coach's sentiment, but this is ridiculous even from my point of view, but yeah they do mention injuries...

Anyway, since you mentioned the highlights, here they are for anyone else who want's to see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9SB907YMkE
legendary
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I have bets on with my usual top performers, Rabbitohs, Panthers and Eels.

There is great odds on the Rabbitohs because of their only loss in 8 games against Storm as you say, I'm they are not going to relinquish 3rd place on the table, way too much at stake with this game for them, for all 5 at the top end if the table really.

I am so glad I never saw this horror movie / car crash unfolding:



I'm beginning to think a couple of my other pics later in the week are also going to come unraveled in much the same way.  This year has been such a skewered season with half the teams totally blitzing the other half and yet two of the top teams come together and it's a Cluster Fk!

WTF, did only half the Rabbitohs team turn up for the match? Zero, nothing,
no score of any kind registered, did they even get out of their own half?
Luckily I had the sense in one way to only put a small bet on the Rabbitohs

Well I only have The Panthers and Eels backed so I hope they are safe bets.



Just watched the highlights, some finishing by Addo-Carr to bag 6 tries.
and watched the press conference with the Rabbitohs coach, he kinda
mentioned that a defeat was coming based on their last few matches
even though they won them.



Second round of the Pro14 Rainbow Cup this weekend, games starting tomorrow.

TBH I havent been watching much of this and havent bet on any games yet and there
doesnt seem to be much talk about it on news bulletins.

I also notice that sportsbet.io dont have the second round of games listed, they had the
first round all right.

https://www.ultimaterugby.com/rainbow-cup-2021/table



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[quote author=aoluain link=topic=5265288.msg56944376#msg56944376 date=1620248620]
I have bets on with my usual top performers, Rabbitohs, Panthers and Eels.

There is great odds on the Rabbitohs because of their only loss in 8 games against Storm as you say, I'm they are not going to relinquish 3rd place on the table, way too much at stake with this game for them, for all 5 at the top end if the table really.
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I am so glad I never saw this horror movie / car crash unfolding:



I'm beginning to think a couple of my other pics later in the week are also going to come unraveled in much the same way.  This year has been such a skewered season with half the teams totally blitzing the other half and yet two of the top teams come together and it's a Cluster Fk!
legendary
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Also, what are the various other countries Rugby games' websites and which online casinos and gaming sites cover their fixtures?
In my country online rugby gambling has become a popular betting venue among young people, basically rugby is the same as sports betting, rugby has several bets and general conditions.

My country currently has several types of online rugby gambling that can be played, including:
As an example:
• Online Rugby Handicap site: the way to play is almost the same as the sport, anyone who plays can guess the voor and the odds of determining the win and another site is 1x2 this is almost the same as Handicap, another Rugby O / U (Over Under.

Is that Virtual Rugby or are the games based on live events, and which ones?



So I have a bet on currently with the Dragons V Wests Tigers in the NRL, [who have lost]

At the start of the season, I was calling the NZ Warriors and the Tigers to win the various games, but I called the Cowboys and Dragons based on past wins where I should have called the Warriors & Tigers.

So four from eight games for the week won.






The NRL 2021 Season week 9 kicks off in two days time.

Screen shots via https://www.nrl.com/



My picks for week 9 are:

I'm going to say the Rabbitohs (even though the Storm are in near equal good form - it'll be a good game), Panthers, Eels (another good game in the making), Knights, Titans, Broncos, Sea Eagles over the Warriors (Dally Cherry-Evans will pull some magic out of his ass again) & The Dragons.  (And yes, I do put bets on all games)



(The only way I can make a bet worth while on https://nitrogensports.eu/sportsbook is to give the Bulldogs a headstart  Grin )

I have bets on with my usual top performers, Rabbitohs, Panthers and Eels.
There is great odds on the Rabbitohs because of their only loss in 8 games
against Storm as you say, I'm they are not going to relinquish 3rd
place on the table, way too much at stake with this game for them, for all 5
at the top end if the table really.
legendary
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Also, what are the various other countries Rugby games' websites and which online casinos and gaming sites cover their fixtures?
In my country online rugby gambling has become a popular betting venue among young people, basically rugby is the same as sports betting, rugby has several bets and general conditions.

My country currently has several types of online rugby gambling that can be played, including:
As an example:
• Online Rugby Handicap site: the way to play is almost the same as the sport, anyone who plays can guess the voor and the odds of determining the win and another site is 1x2 this is almost the same as Handicap, another Rugby O / U (Over Under.
legendary
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Well as regards players, "high tackles" are punished in Rugby Union (dont know about League)
with either a Yellow Card (10 minutes in the Sin Bin) or Red Card (Immediate sending off and
banning of further games)

I know the new competition Pro14 Rainbow Cup is trialling different rules for yellow and red
cards but thats a seperate matter and I would have to look them up again.

As regards player welfare, a player who suffers an injury is removed for HIA assessment
and is deemed to be able to carry on playing or not. If not the player is monitored in the
"Return to play protocol" and is further assessed as to whether he can play sooner or later.

So player welfare is probably top of the list of concerns for  all in Rugby and high tackles
are really punished, (when detected properly)



@TheNineClub from your earlier post you say you are in the Balkans, Romania
have a strong Rugby tradition and I think they are in the top 20 world rankings (Rugby Union)

In relation to Australia and New Zealand there is the long running comparison
between Northern and Southern Hemisphere playing styles, im not sure how
different they are these days but for sure New Zealand whenever playing draw
a lot of interest, it is their #1 sport after all.

I am in Ireland and we have a strong Rugby (union) tradition here eventhough its the 3rd or
4th most popular sport here.

Some fun facts, we have the oldest club in the world which is still in existence
and one of the oldest Rugby grounds in the world was Landsdown Road, now The Aviva Stadium.
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Now, I got one question that you may or may not know the answer to. What kind of improvements (if any) have been made over the years concerning head trauma from the sport? I ask that because I also actively follow MMA and that is also a big question there (Sure, much less than American Football, but I know Rugby had its fair share of issues).

Head injuries in sports is a big issue regardless of the code, or the game.  In Rugby, a player can (and is) sent off for concussion injuries and can also require medical scans after a game (and can be out for a couple of weeks recuperating).

I'll have to do some digging on the nrl.com website for more information.
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Good to hear.  You'll probably find that you played the "Union" version of Rugby as opposed to the "League" version.  You might want to look up some of the national sides such as the French Rugby Union team and then see who they play at a National and local level.

Out of the two of us @aoluain has been following the European games more closely.  (I know @Welsh has also looked in a couple of times too)

At that point, I had no idea there were any differences XD I was just the big guy that was sent to slam into a cluster of other guys XD (Yeah, I know, not really technical lingo, but bare with me until I get my shit together). For some odd reason I am instantly drawn to anything Australia and New Zeland related, so I might start there.

Now, I got one question that you may or may not know the answer to. What kind of improvements (if any) have been made over the years concerning head trauma from the sport? I ask that because I also actively follow MMA and that is also a big question there (Sure, much less than American Football, but I know Rugby had its fair share of issues).
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Good to hear.  You'll probably find that you played the "Union" version of Rugby as opposed to the "League" version.  You might want to look up some of the national sides such as the French Rugby Union team and then see who they play at a National and local level.

Out of the two of us @aoluain has been following the European games more closely.  (I know @Welsh has also looked in a couple of times too)
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Thank you for the quick reply and the links guys Smiley It will take some time for me to get accustomed to the sport as I don't want to spew out bullshit on the thread, but I'll probably have some more noob questions along the way, and hopefully, in time, contribute more to the discussion.

I'm from the Balkans region Smiley Played Rugby for a short amount of time when I was in high school in a local club but for some reason fell out of it. I'll probably not be actively participating in the sport anymore, but would like to support it and watch it as much as I can.
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By all means welcome @TheNineClub - The second and third posts contain links to various Rugby websites around the World (it's a work in progress) - if there's a club, or organisation that you think should be on the list - by all means post a link in the thread and I'll add it if it's relevant.

Comments about Rugby games are always welcome as is any wagers you may have placed (after all this thread is in the "Gambling Discussion" section.

@aoluain and I post most days, so we can always answer any questions you may have fairly promptly.

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Welcome @TheNineClub, for the last few weeks its really only myself and @Timelord2067
active on the thread.

There are a few Leagues and Tournaments in play at the moment.

PRO14 Rainbow Cup (New competition ahead of the Lions Tour) https://www.pro14.rugby

There are various Rugby League competitions being played the most popular on this
thread is the Australian NRL https://www.nrl.com

French Top14 and English Premiership leagues in Rugby Union are ongoing.

What country are you in? ( its ok not to answer that )
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Hi everyone, new to this thread. Been out of Rugby for a considerable amount of time (only actually followed my local team when I played Rugby), what's the best way to get back into it? Where to watch, what to follow, what's in progress, and where to get all the latest scoops? tnx for the info.
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So I have a bet on currently with the Dragons V Wests Tigers in the NRL, [who have lost]

At the start of the season, I was calling the NZ Warriors and the Tigers to win the various games, but I called the Cowboys and Dragons based on past wins where I should have called the Warriors & Tigers.

So four from eight games for the week won.






The NRL 2021 Season week 9 kicks off in two days time.

Screen shots via https://www.nrl.com/



My picks for week 9 are:

I'm going to say the Rabbitohs (even though the Storm are in near equal good form - it'll be a good game), Panthers, Eels (another good game in the making), Knights, Titans, Broncos, Sea Eagles over the Warriors (Dally Cherry-Evans will pull some magic out of his ass again) & The Dragons.  (And yes, I do put bets on all games)



(The only way I can make a bet worth while on https://nitrogensports.eu/sportsbook is to give the Bulldogs a headstart  Grin )
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I agree, there will be some tough choices to be made further on in the competition.

With my initial choices I'm 3 wins from 3 but with the Chiefs getting trounced by the
Blues 39-19 I am chasing my losses a bit, which I really hate doing.

So I have a bet on currently with the Dragons V Wests Tigers in the NRL, [who have lost]

I have a win with Clermont Auvergne v Brive in the French Top14 and
I have a win with the Brumbies v Western Force.

No other losses so far.



In the Heineken Champions cup Toulouse had an easy win against Bordeaux,
Leinsters turn today against La Rochelle.



On a different sport, I have been dabbling with Handball, The European Championship
qualifiers are taking place and I've been taking consistent wins over the last week or two.
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My picks this round are Rabbitohs, Storm, Titans, Panthers, Eels, Knights, Cowboys and Dragons.

If I'd checked the leader board before making the call above, the only one I would have changed would be the Roosters (4th) instead of the Knights (now down to 11th place overall).  I managed to see the first half of the Panthers' game - they played very well and had most of the possession of the ball.  All in all, not a bad choice, the hard part will be in the semis when then leading teams start facing off against one another.
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