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The rising tide lifts all boats
October 07, 2018, 10:47:34 AM
Crimea was donated to Ukraine because Crimea is not the original territory of Russia. For example, did he not give Ukraine any other territory? Secondly, the gift is a gift. This does not mean that the gift can be taken back.
There is no "gift of populace" notion in international law, neither there was in Soviet law.
Population are not slaves to be gifted. Officially, it was not a gift, it was illegal act, both from the point of view of USSR and of Russian Soviet Federative Republic and even of Ukrainian SSR.
And Sevastopol was not "gifted" around that time, it was "gifted" (illegally ceded) by Yeltsin.
legendary
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October 07, 2018, 09:11:14 AM
The situation in the world is now such that the United States, although imposing its will on the entire planet, has in fact subjugated Europe to itself. Resistance to this pressure is a natural process.
The annexation of the Crimea was caused by the threat of Ukraine joining NATO and the deployment of military bases in Crimea. By this time, Ukraine was seized by anti-Russian nationalists. And since the peninsula is a strategically incredibly important object, opening access to the trade routes of the Black Sea, it was necessary.
At the same time, the referendum was not rigged. The absolute majority of the inhabitants of Crimea are Russians, who were concerned about the anti-Russian policy of the new government of Ukraine and the destabilization of the economy due to the power change of power. Also, residents of Donbass are mostly Russians and the secession is caused by the nationalistic policy of the new government in relation to the Russian-speaking ones.

Your justification for the occupation of the Crimea is very similar to the justification by the Russians of the war with Finland for being located close to Leningad. With this logic, any country has the right, if it wishes, to start a war.


Actually, two completely unrelated events, and not similar in any way. Crimea was given as gift to Ukraine by Khrushcev, while Finland
was never part of Russia. Attack on Finland could be better compared with USA attack on texas, although USA actually achieved
goal and took Texas from Mexico forever

Crimea was donated to Ukraine because Crimea is not the original territory of Russia. For example, did he not give Ukraine any other territory? Secondly, the gift is a gift. This does not mean that the gift can be taken back.
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October 07, 2018, 08:02:06 AM
The situation in the world is now such that the United States, although imposing its will on the entire planet, has in fact subjugated Europe to itself. Resistance to this pressure is a natural process.
The annexation of the Crimea was caused by the threat of Ukraine joining NATO and the deployment of military bases in Crimea. By this time, Ukraine was seized by anti-Russian nationalists. And since the peninsula is a strategically incredibly important object, opening access to the trade routes of the Black Sea, it was necessary.
At the same time, the referendum was not rigged. The absolute majority of the inhabitants of Crimea are Russians, who were concerned about the anti-Russian policy of the new government of Ukraine and the destabilization of the economy due to the power change of power. Also, residents of Donbass are mostly Russians and the secession is caused by the nationalistic policy of the new government in relation to the Russian-speaking ones.

Your justification for the occupation of the Crimea is very similar to the justification by the Russians of the war with Finland for being located close to Leningad. With this logic, any country has the right, if it wishes, to start a war.


Actually, two completely unrelated events, and not similar in any way. Crimea was given as gift to Ukraine by Khrushcev, while Finland
was never part of Russia. Attack on Finland could be better compared with USA attack on texas, although USA actually achieved
goal and took Texas from Mexico forever
legendary
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October 07, 2018, 07:17:52 AM
The situation in the world is now such that the United States, although imposing its will on the entire planet, has in fact subjugated Europe to itself. Resistance to this pressure is a natural process.
The annexation of the Crimea was caused by the threat of Ukraine joining NATO and the deployment of military bases in Crimea. By this time, Ukraine was seized by anti-Russian nationalists. And since the peninsula is a strategically incredibly important object, opening access to the trade routes of the Black Sea, it was necessary.
At the same time, the referendum was not rigged. The absolute majority of the inhabitants of Crimea are Russians, who were concerned about the anti-Russian policy of the new government of Ukraine and the destabilization of the economy due to the power change of power. Also, residents of Donbass are mostly Russians and the secession is caused by the nationalistic policy of the new government in relation to the Russian-speaking ones.

Your justification for the occupation of the Crimea is very similar to the justification by the Russians of the war with Finland for being located close to Leningad. With this logic, any country has the right, if it wishes, to start a war.
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October 07, 2018, 05:57:25 AM
The situation in the world is now such that the United States, although imposing its will on the entire planet, has in fact subjugated Europe to itself. Resistance to this pressure is a natural process.
The annexation of the Crimea was caused by the threat of Ukraine joining NATO and the deployment of military bases in Crimea. By this time, Ukraine was seized by anti-Russian nationalists. And since the peninsula is a strategically incredibly important object, opening access to the trade routes of the Black Sea, it was necessary.
At the same time, the referendum was not rigged. The absolute majority of the inhabitants of Crimea are Russians, who were concerned about the anti-Russian policy of the new government of Ukraine and the destabilization of the economy due to the power change of power. Also, residents of Donbass are mostly Russians and the secession is caused by the nationalistic policy of the new government in relation to the Russian-speaking ones.
jr. member
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October 07, 2018, 05:34:22 AM
For that moment Russia is not an agressive country ..Russia is trying to dispose of west oppression

Russia is a power nation, it may look aggressive but it's a nation not to be meddle with.
I also happen to think the most aggressive and unpredictable nation is North Korea,
they seem to look like they are always preparing for war. I think generally any nation
with a massive army and nuclear capabilities are considered aggressive if provoked.

Agreed about North Korea. People in the Asia-Pacific region are under constant pressure caused by unpredictable behavior of NK.
For instance, at the beginning of the year Japan received the alarm that North Korea has launched the nuclear missile. This announcement was later declared wrong, but I can`t imagine what kind of stress this announcement produced considering WWII history of Japan.
After all, what you can expect from the country where 4-5% of the population is enlisted and more than 4 million people in reserve.
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First Exclusion Ever
October 07, 2018, 05:14:48 AM
Without the Western banking elite based in the USA on Wallstreet, the rise of the USSR would have never even happened. They not only funded it but carefully cultivated it. This neither makes USA nor Russia "the bad guys", it makes us all hosts to the same parasite.
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October 07, 2018, 03:02:27 AM
Some blizzards possible during winter time, that can affect the traffic and delay the flights. So, be sure that your visa won’t expire and you possess enough money in order to prolong your stay in the country. In some very remote areas near the border with Mongolia and Kazakhstan, earthquakes are possible.
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September 17, 2018, 11:57:34 PM
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September 17, 2018, 01:03:34 PM
I suggest reading this book:




Short video that sums up the book:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37Dvt2EqXF4
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September 17, 2018, 11:21:59 AM
I'm my opinion USA is the most aggressive country. But countries can do nothing it. American media bombarded the world population with propaganda 24/7. And USA has the most powerful military in the World. Thus no one can criticize the USA. It is like the Emperor new cloth story. Every Leader that criticize would be painted evil, replace and killed even their only intention is helping their own people.
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September 17, 2018, 11:11:31 AM
Despite the high criminal level in the early stages of the Russian’s history, taking place immediately after the collapse of the Soviet Union, when organized crime controlled more than 40.000 economic organizations, including governmental organizations. The state of current affairs has significantly changed. Today visiting Moscow, St. Petersburg or any other city in the rest part of the country (except some spots) is safe as in any other big capital in the rest of the world; although it’s worth following some basic safety rules. If you thinking to travel to the regions close to the Ukraine border, this is not recommended, because of the high level of risk and unstable situation in the region of Donetsk, Lugansk, and Kharkov.
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The rising tide lifts all boats
August 31, 2018, 12:26:33 AM
I don't want to say that the US is made of angels, but how is what the US does a justification for what Russia does?

You say that Russia's influence is limited outside it's own borders. Well, this thread is originally about the fact that Russia keeps trying to move it's borders out.
The four counts where Russia "moved it's borders out" (Transnistria, Apsua, South Osetia and Crimea) were for protecting Russian, Apsua and Osetin populations who asked for help, being attacked by NATO or NATO-aspiring nations parts of which they nearly became.
This has nothing to do with "revanchism", "revenge", "childish grievances" and so on.
Preventing ethnical cleansings is not revanchism.

2nd, only one of those regions became part of the Federation. I specifically omit Donbass, as Donbass is too divided to get this kind of help.
Donbass is at civil war with unelected government, receiving humanitarian help much the same as "rebels" in entire Middle East receive help of US. The situation with involvement in Donbass is exactly mirroring involvement of e.g. US in Syria, but without the tomahawks.

3rd, how is what US does is a justification? There is geopolitical balance.
Giving Crimea to NATO would be geopolitical catastrophe with a lot more repercussions, than taking it back into Russia.
Reluctantly, Russian government was forced to take Crimea.

I can think of a very long list of aggressive countries, including and not limited to:

USA
Russia
Israel
Iran
North Korea
Syria

I wonder what was the reason to put Israel 3rd here.
Israel is the only nation that managed to increase it's territory by almost 100% in 6 days.
They took also Sinai peninsula that would make that factor even greater, but then gave it back.
Neither US nor Russia attacked more than 5 countries simultaneously in recent history.
Also neither of them were directly perpetrating racially targeted genocide in the 2nd half of previous century.
With the exception maybe of Viet Nam.

Why is even Iran here? All it did it went to war with Iraq, because of anglo-saxon shenanigans.
North Korea did absolutely nothing. Syria only fought back to Israel. My impression the list is just composed
from what the person see on CNN, without any personal analysis.
jr. member
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August 23, 2018, 03:43:13 PM
Why Lithuania not give back to Poland city of Vilno?
What a greedy Lithuania.

Lithuania and Poland were among the countries which benefited the most from USSR winning the WW2. But even then they would like to complain about the Soviets and their behavior during the war.

Ohhhh what we gain after WW2? I'm from Poland and after war country is even smaller. We lose more on the east and gain less on the west.
Truly Poland is the biggest loser among winning camp
newbie
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August 23, 2018, 03:49:14 AM
If you consider the whole history I can't agree with that but the worst thing about Russia is that they keep being aggressive even in 21st century.
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August 23, 2018, 04:13:01 AM
Maybe, i'm between Russia and USA. Both countries think they deserve it all.

The difference between the US and Russia is that Russia captured a lot of foreign land during the Second World War and today continues to capture the lands of foreign states, and the US has not captured a meter of foreign territory.
Article about this difference.

What is the need to capture more territory when entire countries are under American military occupation? There are US military bases all over the world, in almost all the continents (perhaps with the exception of Antarctica).

 Which foreign territories of the United States were annexed after World War II?

You don't have to officially annex territory...you just have to overthrow local government you don't like
and appoint loyal dictator, like Saddam, Pinochet etc...USA did it 30+ times after WW2, mostly in
South and Central America, and in Middle East
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August 23, 2018, 04:00:56 AM
People like to hate on Russia. It's fashionable these days.

America is the most aggressive country in the world. It started about 250 years ago when people came to this continent and slaughtered the natives who were here. Theft by force. We're not talking about annexing 10% of a country that was already 5% of the size of our current country. We are talking about 3.5 million square miles being taken by force over the course of many years by people who abandoned their own country because they didn't want to pay taxes.

And since then, a decade hasn't gone by when we were not fighting somebody.

The current campaign of Russophobia is a tactic to divert attention from the major issues such as ISIS and growing federal debt. More than two dozen nations (including Japan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Germany, and Saudi Arabia) are currently under American military occupation. And they are still thick enough to accuse the Russians of aggression.

Saudi Arabia is one of the closest allies of the United States of America and is not under American military occupation. Russia is an ally of Bashar al Assad which is responsible for creating ISIS which emerged because of the people feeling hopeless under Assad rule. The father of Bashar al Assad killed 32.000 persons in a single day in the beginning of eighties. Russia is also an ally of Iran , a republic well known for exporting terrorists anywhere in the world.

America doesn't sponsor terrorists like Russia does.

You cannot compare Russia with America, America is the greatest country in the world while Russia is just a communist country which still pays people within 100-150 euro for a month. That is funny considering that this payment is made within 1 or maximum 2 days of work in the USA.





Damn, you're brainwashed hard...were you detained in Guantanamo?
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August 23, 2018, 04:00:28 AM
I think Afghanistan is the most aggressive, if not, why they were in war with both Russia and USA?

That's because both used Afghanistan for their own purposes. They needed reason to start war against each other which can't be liked neither by Afghanistan nor any other countries where the same could happen.
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August 23, 2018, 02:13:38 AM
I think Afghanistan is the most aggressive, if not, why they were in war with both Russia and USA?
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August 22, 2018, 05:49:37 PM
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