Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 248. (Read 68164 times)

The Ministry of Dark Humour and Fantasyland tales must have been under budget cuts to come out with the story of "good will gesture" to leave Snake Island. I confess I had a good laugh at that one.

Despite how fancy and cool this island looks from the strategic point of view (perfect for early warning or as naval base) Ukraine decided long ago that is much easier to attack than to defend. The RF Chief Psychos had to first loose the Moskva, then a few other minor ships (along with wasting the lives of their crews for nothing) and ground troops to figure it out.

Good gesture my ass.

Its probably made up by Ghost of Kiev, he has a lot of free time now that Russians destroyed all of his planes

Yes. Here is compilation of all russian propaganda "statistic"



First column - "was at the start"
Second one - "provided by westerners"
Third column - "destroyed"

Look at numbers: For example, russian "destroyed" ALL ukrainian UAV of all types (1049 from 1049). Funny BS

In recent days name of Konashnenkov were mentioned few times here. So, finally someone spend some time and debunked his lies in detail. So, how surprising, but according to him, Russia destroyed more Ukraine army hardware than they actually have. For example, they destroyed 84 Bayraktar drones, 20 more than Ukraine ever had:
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/06/30/according-to-russia-s-press-releases-they-ve-destroyed-more-military-hardware-than-ukraine-ever-had
Russian forces left famous Snake island. Russia called it as good will sign and they finished tasks here, but they forget to mention it was under powerful and effective rocket artillery attacks from Ukraine:
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/30/europe/snake-island-russia-ukraine-invasion-intl/index.html
Russia and Ukraine made big POW swap, including quite big number of Azov troops. I remember someone saying that there will be no mercy for these "nazis":
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-russia-prisoner-swap-azovstal/31921756.html

You just don't get it, do you. Russia today is not the same as the Russia of the USSR. Russian leaders today have seen that the USSR style of governing didn't work. Rather than using force, today's Russia is using fair trade to become friends with everybody.

But the Ukraine government hasn't learned what happened to Hitler in the end. The NAZI government was destroyed, or it went so far underground that it couldn't be effective. But here it is surfacing in the form of the government of Ukraine. And its surfacing is the same as Hitler would have it. It's like WW2 all over again.

Revelation 13:3
The head of the beast that had the fatal wound was Hitler's NAZIs. Now it is being healed, and the whole world (almost) is following the healing. When China and India offer their support of Ukraine, we will know that the head of the beast has been healed, and that NAZIs rule the world.

We have a whole bunch of NAZI supporters like paxmao Nazi-Hitler, who are way worse than any Adolf Putin could ever dream of being.

Neither do I, it would have to be a systematic attempt to kill or make impossible to survive based on culture, race, religion,... It may get to the point that it is possible to have specific proof that Ukrainians of non-Russian background are being targeted in the captured areas. It may not require a massive number of deaths, they can, like Uyghurs in China, be "encouraged" to leave their language or uses and marry a "Russian", go into "re-education" camps, or the children impeded from speaking their native tongue,... and killed or imprisoned if they do not abide.

One of the possibilities I can see more clearly fringing in the genocide is the "filtration" processes of people (forcefully) evacuated to the RF. We will read horror stories when Adolf Putin's regime fades.

Historically, Russia is expert at "conquering" territory by massive migration. Konigsberg (Kaliningrad now) is currently an enclave because, believe it or not, other countries did not want anything to do with it. This is completely serious, the USSR moved above a million Russ in there and after the dis-integration of the USSR, the surrounding countries (Including Lithuania and Poland) did not want to incorporate it!

For those interested, there are many videos (if you are young and do not read) available. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5K4tq-9osc

Germany never disappoints being a Russian dick rider.

You claimed that "only one" shopping mall was attacked by the Russian military. That is obviously false. Nice job moving the goalposts though. At this point I can say "20k in Mariupol", you will spit out something from Channel 1 again, etc. We've been through this numerous times before you showed up in this thread.


I don't known what it takes to "prove" it officially but to me this type of thing does it - not the words themselves, but the facts matching those words, people being executed with their hands tied etc:


(telegram group of one of the "contract" units similar to Wagner; actual proper nazis so there's a great deal of irony here but I digress)

Ask any Russian in Crimea and Donbass what became of their names in Ukrainian documents.


Donetsk and Lugansk are what?


Picture of the missile that hit KredMash.
https://i.imgur.com/0kBvevx.jpg

"Ukraniza??" whatever? Source please.

We have gone over this a number of times. The RF had effectively two army corps, led by RF officials in those two regions of Ukraine, so there was an effective undeclared war (sounds familiar) caused by Adolf Putin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_separatist_forces_in_Donbas#:~:text=Russian%20separatist%20forces%20in%20Donets,Luhansk%20People%27s%20Republic%20(LPR).


Yes, shelling military objectives is part of war. Smashing a shopping mall full of people is a crime.

Forced Ukrainianization and name-changing is a long-standing fact.


And what is the military need for eight years of shelling Luhansk and Donetsk?
Or is it just for fun?

Again, confusing concepts. Genocide is the deliberate efforts to destroy a race, culture or religion. Destroying schools, hospitals, shopping centres and civil infrastructure in called "wanton destruction", which only seeks to impoverish the adversary and cause damage unrelated to the war.

As of now, genocide itself does not seem proven in Ukraine at large scale (there are instances at local level though). The "Russification", imposing RF passports to access to services, imposing the rouble are quite borderline as of now.

Wanton destruction is still a war crime:

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/customary-ihl/eng/docs/v2_rul_rule50

And what about the genocide, how many were killed?
How many of these buildings were in use by the military at the time of the strike?

Genocide is a goal you can work towards in different ways right? It is "the way to go", the genocide, the result of a process. Hitler just forced people onto the streets, shot them in the head and threw them into mass graves (digged out by those who then got shot in the head). Even Putin knows that there are limits to the process that is supposed to lead to nothing else but genocide. If you fire one missile, you could still argue in front of the United Nations that it was an accident or what not. Or that it was the Ukrainians themselves. Or some other Russian troll shit from Kremlin.

Putin isn't stupid. He knows how to proceed in order to keep people like you brain-fucked. He must avoid at all costs that his troll army consisting of people like you doesn't have at least a tiny chance to twist the facts such that they fit into his narratives and somehow nurture the insane propaganda context spread on the state controlled media.

You see it works? You are so stupid that sometimes I think even Putin can't believe how easy it is to manipulate people. Just shoot one missile and the trolls will say "why only one missile if genocide?" Putin understands the slippery slope game. He is conducting a tightrope act in a certain way. Always push the boundaries a little further. If he decided to pull off a second Hitler, he'd probably get into military trouble. He makes a mini Hitler now that is snowballing step by step, hence making the decision harder for outside forces when to pull the trigger.

HAHA, omg, I am seriously shaking my head right now. I am wondering whether I should take a lesson with Putin on how to be smart and manipulate trolls or whether I should take one with trolls like you on how to be stupid and be manipulable. Both not very tempting and desirable, yet depressingly impressive in a very peculiar way. You are special, my friend. That's something, really!


@suchmoon: "only one". If you read a comment like that, do you have a comprehensible psychological explanation as to how someone could come up with that thought process? I am trying to, but I am puzzled, seriously. I feel like I am lacking a special kind of brain cells and synapses in order to reproduce the impulse and the following thought process to come to the conclusion that "only one" missile is "proof against genocide". My lord...

No, they are trying to break through Nazi Ukrainian's defense technology, aka "shields"...

Really?



https://t.me/novinach/25076
https://t.me/novinach/25083

And what do the anti-battery radars say? Where was the gunfire coming from?
As far as I know, missiles don't fly alone, there are shots by the dozen.
There was a recent video of a rocket returning to the launch site.
And surely the locations of the malls are known, why hit only one if genocide is the goal?

That's what happens when your government lies to you and doesn't call things by their real names. You get confused and you think that the "not a war" won't come to Russia. It already has. If it helps, call it a special railroad operation.

Meanwhile Russian military continues targeting civilians:



(missile hits an apartment building in Mikolaiv)

It shows how to derail trains, it's an instruction manual.
What is a legitimate target for anarchists is a mystery to me.

You seem very confused about the concept of terrorism. The Russia Federation is at war with Ukraine. Railways, refineries, weapons factories and anything that supports the war effort is a legitimate target (as opposed for example to targeting a shopping centre, which is terrorism). What is the problem? It feels different when someone does it to you in your territory uh? Is war no longer fun and glorious for you?

I can tell the guy who did this had training. He made sure there was electrical contact between the rails so that the section circuit was closed and there was not indication at the control centre.