Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 247. (Read 77398 times)

Nothing new. RF shelling with 60's equipment and "conquering" a land of rubble. There are several things that you got wrong:

- HIMARS is precisely there to fuck up those logistics you describe and with just 4 of them, high value targets have been destroyed. It is clear to anyone that the pace of the offensive has slowed.
- RF can concentrate troops... at the cost of leaving other areas dangerously undefended. There are tiny advances from Ukraine in the South. In themselves they do not mean much, but the fact that there's actually any advance should give you food for thought on how strong the grip on the invaded lands is.

But the biggest caveat is that the tactic is slow and costly. RF cannot maintain and army working at that pace for a long period of time under economic sanctions and certainly will need to convince many of joining an army that has a reputation for not giving a F*k for their soldiers and sending then unprepared and untrained.

Regarding "high precision"... nothing to be shown for that. The technical weaponry exists, but is so limited that makes zero effect. Ukraine has always been ready for air raids and missiles and use the right tactics to minimise the effects of these.

Overall, there is nothing like a "winning strategy" going on at all.

Чи бyлa цe IПCO? Бeзyмoвнo, cьoгoднi вci пyблiчнi кoмeнтapi - цe чacтинa IПCO. Haм пoтpiбнo дeмopaлiзyвaти pociйcькy apмiю. Boни пoвиннi poзyмiти, щo тyт пocтiйнo бyдe тepитopiя вoгню, щo їx тyт бyдyть cпaлювaти. Цe ключoвe.

- HIMARS is precisely there to fuck up those logistics you describe and with just 4 of them, high value targets have been destroyed. It is clear to anyone that the pace of the offensive has slowed.

Possibly you know that Zelensky was selected by the people of the Ukraine. But if you think so, why do you think that way? Do you know where the votes really came from? Did you watch the people vote? Did you count the votes? Or are you only believing what the government tells you?

Perhaps the news from Donbas that shows the people wishing that Russia removed the whole Zelensky regime, perhaps that news is false/fake.

Even Zelensky, who has not been in office all that long, admits that the Ukraine has been at war with Donbas for 8 years.

Even the biased-in-favor-of-Ukraine, US news media shows a lot of interesting things that show that Ukrainian people are not all that in favor of Zelensky.

Zelensky is President of Ukraine, who was been selected by our people, in democracy process.
Russia is another state, and they have no any rights to decide here, in our country.
Here is people of Ukraine, ukrainians, have rights to decide somehing, not russianians.
U.S., UN, and EU come to us with with propositions, and deals, Russia come to us with rockets, tanks, bombs, and death.
There is large difference, and there is the main reason, why UA prefer to work with EU or U.S., instead of working with Russia, in CIS, or somewhere else.

The point is that the Ukraine people, through lack of knowledge or lack of strength, allowed the US to set up the Zelensky puppet government. Russia is attacking simply to protect Russian and Ukrainian interests from the evil coming out of the US. Destroy Zelensky, and block the US from re-entering the Ukraine, and things will settle down to peace for all of Ukraine.

I do not understand, why Russianians say they are Russians?
We have many Russians, in Ukraine, but they are not russianians, they are ukrainians.
When I heard some UN-volunteers say, they'll go in Ukraine to fight with russians and for democracy,
it seems, like they want to kill all Ukrainians...

Ukraine was been a Kyiv Rus', so all we are russians too, but not russianians.
We just have a Ukrainian passport, and our own state, country, nation, and government.
Russians not attacked us, and russianians not attacked us too.
Just Khuylo betrayed a people of USSR, then bought Vagner's, and Kadyrov's bitches,
and sent this shit to Ukraine, with some young russianians boys.

As the possibility of an open war with Russia looms, it is necessary for America to get to know some of Russia’s “super weapons” or high-technology weapons.

Russia had over a decade to achieve a technological edge over America since the Obama administration started dismantling the U.S. military. America is on the verge of war in various theaters of operation against a formidable Russian military.

Take a look at some of Russia’s “super weapons” that it can use against the United States.

Scalar weapons

The creation of scalar waves requires connecting electromagnetic light waves of identical frequencies to make a third, completely-different electromagnetic (EM) wave with drastically different properties. The scalar beam was described by Serbian-American inventor Nikola Tesla as “a wave of sound in the non-material ether.”

Scalar waves can travel faster than the speed of light. Unlike “standard” EM waves, the scalar wave can pass through matter without facing any resistance.

When employed, these weapons can create either an explosive effect from vast distances. (Related: Russia has scalar technology weapons that can cause massive destruction)

Scalar technology can be used to destroy enemy missiles before they reach their final velocity and trajectory.

The scalar weapons can also produce artificial earthquakes. Some think scalar weapons caused the earthquake that shut down China Lake, a top-secret naval research facility.

Hypersonic missiles

This kind of weapon delivery system brings nuclear warfare into a whole new domain, and the Russians are way ahead of Americans in terms of hypersonic missiles. They have integrated them into their armed forces and are consistently constructing more missiles for their stockpiles.

The Kinzhal air-launched hypersonic cruise missile is already in the service of the Russian Air Force, with the MiG-31 Foxhound interceptor carrying and firing it. The Kinzhal reportedly improved its range from 1,200 miles to more than 1,800 miles and is capable of traveling 10 times the speed of sound.

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Funny how these two counter arguments are covering the full spectrum.

to we're totally fighting the language and not the content, content of any Russian book is allowed if it's translated into Ukrainian (johhnyUA)

If RU music/radio/books are censored why allow RU sites? Why censor one media of information but not the internet?

Overall, there is nothing like a "winning strategy" going on at all.

Funny how these two counter arguments are covering the full spectrum. From we're not fighting the language only it's content which is propaganda that brainwashes children (suchmoon), to we're totally fighting the language and not the content, content of any Russian book is allowed if it's translated into Ukrainian (johhnyUA)

Following that logic, should UA ban RU language sites on the internet? If RU music/radio/books are censored why allow RU sites? Why censor one media of information but not the internet?

Point being is if you're waging a war with a language you've already lost.


Not censoring all books based on a language != compulsory reading of a specific book, or that anyone needs to praise and chant anything.
Such a stretch, c'mon, you know better than this

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Not censoring all books based on a language != compulsory reading of a specific book, or that anyone needs to praise and chant anything.
Such a stretch, c'mon, you know better than this

I will say a few words about the "barrage of fire" tactics, which the allied forces of Russia and the LDNR used to break into the fortified areas in Avdiivka. This is an old trick from the times of the First World War, which the Russian Army masters to perfection. To use it successfully, you need good logistics, because you will need to spend a huge amount of artillery shells and multiple launch rocket systems. Russia is now spending about 5,000 tons of artillery shells per day in Ukraine on the use of a "barrage of fire" (not counting high-precision missiles). For each unarmored target in the Donbass, 300-500 shells are spent. After such artillery preparation, assault detachments with the support of armored vehicles go into battle, usually formed according to the national principle (Tuvans, Buryats, Chechens, etc.), which use their native language in radio communications, which provides additional protection against radio interception. If the assault squads meet strong resistance, they move back and artillery again works on the identified positions. Such tactics make it possible to successfully advance without numerical superiority and with minimal losses (but with an increased consumption of artillery shells).

That's why 50 or even 100 HIMARS can't turn the tide of this operation. Russia can concentrate 10-15 divisions of howitzers and MLRS on a small sector of the front, and they plow everything with cheap shells and unguided rockets. And Ukraine can oppose only 1-2 divisions, which, moreover, are forced to hide from drones and high-precision missiles. The success of the operation to liberate Donbass is not a matter of strategy or tactics, it is a matter of logistics and timing.

When one country invades and the other says "we don't want your books anymore" it's absurd to claim "discrimination". Come on, master of whataboutism, find us some historic analogy. Like Russian imports of German books during WWII.


That's your conclusion, not sure why you're ascribing that to me. I'm sure there are many bad books issued in countries that Ukraine has good relationships with. I never argued otherwise. It's a tangent that doesn't mean anything in the context of restricting book imports from a country they're at war with.

Why are you so stupid? Oh wait, let me clarify: From your link, it's obvious that Ukraine banned russian books import, not books itself. So you can translate any russian author into ukrainian and sell it without any problems.

In difference, books that banned in russia, banned entirely. It doesn't matter on which language you will try to read it.

I hope at least you get paid for your bs  

Certainly the whole argument is ridiculous. Is like asking Israel to make Mein Kampf compulsory reading at school or making Carl Marx a compulsory reading at Texans schools. They somehow keep on insisting that Ukraine should actually be praising and chanting about the main language of the state that is trying to annihilate them. Senseless at all point.

When one country invades and the other says "we don't want your books anymore" it's absurd to claim "discrimination". Come on, master of whataboutism, find us some historic analogy. Like Russian imports of German books during WWII.


That's your conclusion, not sure why you're ascribing that to me. I'm sure there are many bad books issued in countries that Ukraine has good relationships with. I never argued otherwise. It's a tangent that doesn't mean anything in the context of restricting book imports from a country they're at war with.

    For years, Ukraine was recognized as one of the most, if not “the” most, corrupt nation in Europe. It held on to that reputation all the way up to the day Russia invaded it, at which point media worldwide suddenly started rewriting history
    A few days after firing several top officials, Zelensky also issued a blacklist of American “pro-Russian propagandists,” which includes Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky, former Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii, and independent journalist Glenn Greenwald
    After receiving billions of dollars from American taxpayers, Zelensky now wants to silence American politicians and journalists who question government’s use of funds and America’s continued involvement in the Ukraine conflict — a move that raises questions about Ukraine being a bastion of democracy and freedom
    U.S. aid to Ukraine may be a corrupt scheme to steal taxpayer funds, launder the money through Ukraine, and then funnel the money back into the hands of the transnational security elite
    Another angle that can help explain U.S. support of Ukraine’s authoritarian regime is that we have a number of biolabs in Ukraine, the purposes of which the U.S. government is keen to obscure. Russia claims it will release a comprehensive report before U.S. midterms detailing how top Democrats facilitated illegal biowarfare research in Ukraine, in collaboration with Big Pharma, which in turn funneled massive campaign contributions back to Democrats

For years, Ukraine was recognized as one of the most, if not “the” most, corrupt nation in Europe. It held on to that reputation all the way up to the day Russia invaded, at which point media worldwide suddenly started rewriting history.

Whitewashing Ukraine’s Corruption and Authoritarianism

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Now a bit of reality, instead of your systemic propaganda lies ... Although STOP!
I am now giving a map of hostilities, with the designations of the occupied territories, and territories under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Further there will be a link for everyone, where you can watch the development of events in Ukraine in dynamics. I do not hide anything, I submit it in primary sources. And now, after your next "squeal" about the "new victory of the second army of the world," try to explain why the captured cities .. were not captured?

You seem to be confusing censoring 60% of all of the books on UA market based only on the language they're written in and censoring eight specific books.  

Ah whataboutism, there's no hypocrisy or double standard that it cannot justify. Weren't you taught that whataboutism cannot apply when creating laws? And is actually called discrimination in law. But i must agree it's a convenient tool to prevent population from questioning any and all laws.

If your logic leads you to the following conclusion, think it's safe to say that you're on the wrong side of the argument:
Masha and the Bear = brainwashing children, needs to be censored, require exceptions to import
Mein kampf = totally fine for unlimited circulation without age restriction