Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 309. (Read 80144 times)

You really need to lay of the alcohol while you are posting in here, af_newbie. I mean, fictional war ideas are okay. And alcohol is okay. But mixing them makes you sound kinda funny.

All the things that you say Russia was planning, are the things the US and NATO are doing.

And you even admit that Ukranians "have been raping, killing and torturing Russian"s ... "by the truckload."

Looks totally like Russia isn't the aggressor, but the US is. Thanks for pointing this truth out to us.

The video from the CNN report raises a lot of questions if you start to analyze it in detail.
As a result, it seems that frames from different time periods were taken and mixed with each other.

There are two versions of CNN's coverage of the event: on the CNN website and on YouTube.
For scene timing, I will use the one posted on YouTube, as there is a more convenient player, in my opinion.

Video
00:40 The shadows in the very beginning of the scene are in front of people
00:45 In the shooting scene, the shadows are already shifted to the left of the people, at a noticeable angle. But the CNN report gives the impression that only a few seconds elapsed between these two scenes.



01:18 A suspicious white civilian car with the inscription "Tank Special Forces V RUS". According to a Russian military expert: 1) the Russian Federation doesn't have such a unit; 2) none of the military would let such a transport through; 3) it is extremely dangerous to drive such vehicles in a war zone, as there is a great vulnerability to any type of small arms.



01:57 In the upper frame, a yellow car is visible standing outside the gate, but in the lower frames (supposedly filmed at the same moment), this car is not visible.



Many of the shots have the date cut off. On a few scenes the dates are visible, but they change from Friday to Saturday and from Saturday to Friday. The frame with the word "FRI" (Friday) is not fully visible in the Youtube footage, but it is on the CNN home site, watch the video from 2 minutes 19 seconds.



More information is in the detailed analysis of this video in English.

Also, in early May 2022, the NYPost published an article providing additional food for thought: "Biden’s new press secretary sparks conflict-of-interest concerns over relationship with CNN’s Suzanne Malveaux".

They must be drunk.
Idiot backs into a tree and loses a spare fuel tank.

They should search the nearby cars for a backup camera or parking sensors. That could help with their lack of skill although a moron won't park well even with park assist.

Of course these are NATO battle cars, driven by Azov Nazis!

You guys might want to check BADeckers post history so you know what you're getting into if you intend to keep engaging.  Just pick a few random pages from the list of topics he's started...

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Epic levels of failure continue:




https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/russian-battalion-devastated-as-it-crosses-river-989vvnj9v

Glorious Russian army of liberating looters bravely denazifies apartment buildings, trees, and cars:

https://twitter.com/adagamov/status/1525159029873451008

Of course I don't agree with all that death. So, to keep the dying from continuing, the US should move out of the Ukraine entirely... and stop supplying the armaments. As long as the US continues its aggressive activities in that area, there will be war... Russia protecting itself.

Why don't you simply come out and say that you don't believe what's written in the article?

Besides, if you believe the journalists who tell you what's going on over there, without going to check it out yourself, you might as well believe in Santa.

You mean you defend that, yet two month lasting attack with tens of thousands of dead russian soldiers and ukrainian RA-"volunteers", as well as a huge number of civilians as being adequate?
Correct countermeasures, no?

Putin's Russia gave birth to the first major threat to "world peace" in the 21st century.
Great achievement, no?

Everyone but the wrong people will be paying a high price for all this.
Fair developments, no?

The thing is, i can temporarily take over someone's viewpoint, for understanding, while you seem like you can not (or do not want to).
You might want to try to get at eye level in this discussion, no?

Was there ever free trade with the USA and Russia?

He can't nuke the world, do you really believe that he moves with a suitcase and once he clicks on the red button then the world gets fucked?
No one wants a nuke, there are people behind Putin who have families, who think a little different, who have their own ambitions, their goals that may include getting power in their hands, we can't really talk around this subject easily because there are some decision-makers.

Ask yourself one more time, why do countries, such as Sweden and Finland, that have a high quality of life, happy and peaceful days, want to join the Nato? Why don't they want to join the former USSR? Because visit yourself Russia and then the western and Scandinavian countries and you'll get the answer. Ask yourself why Poland hates Russia more than Germany, why Ukraine hates Russia, why Baltic States (Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania) hate Russia?
Because they have been in the Soviet Union and they know how it feels, how Russia was treating them. They want to join NATO to protect themselves from Russia. Russia has imperialistic dreams and goals, everyone knows and sees this, these countries don't want to go back to the Soviet era and that's why they want to join NATO.
Is it really hard to understand?

This really made my day
Have they tried? They can try it.

This has already been discussed over and over on this thread. Putin had effectively an army corps under command of the Russian Army in Donetsk and Luhansk. The fighting in the region was paid for and directed from the Kremlin. Invoking defence on this case is cynical to the max - there was no fight before he decided to.

I can see you are one of those here that just throw shit and see if it sticks. It does not.


Tash, I am going to quote you on this one. I just want to make sure this comment is there. In case UKR can go to Mariupol now they are done with Kharkiv. Who would think that Russian population would need to be evacuated from Russia uh?

The best thing Putin could do now is start bringing back all the Ukrainians deported.

Why do you want to start a war with the facts I present? You've lost your war from the get-go.

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You forgot to read the article. Civilians die in wars just like soldiers. For the past 8 years, Russian civilians were dying at the hands of Ukranians by the thousands. And Putin is supposed to stand for the US not listening to his pleas for the US to stop supporting the Ukraine? Click the links to the article, above.

It's still mind blowing to me the fact that, with very few exceptions, the people that defended Trump the hardest are the ones defending Putin the hardest.  Such a gullible bunch of skeptics you guys are.

Ever thought how those ratings are checked? They call random people and ask them questions, but the trick is that if they know the number, they know who they're calling. Russians fear repressions so they either say they support Putin or act dumb and say they don't care about politics.
What repressions? Those that get you arrested for every little thing. A guy was arrested for wearing shoes in the colors of the Ukrainian flag. An old lady was arrested for walking with a "no to war" card.
A commander of the fleet was arrested when Moskva sunk and a local mayor of a town where a couple houses burned due to forest fires was also arrested because in Russia when things go wrong somehow you look for someone to blame and put in jail.

That's why Putin's troops attacked and tried to conquer Kyiv, while "accidentally" murdering civilians, yes?
"special military operation" my ass!
You're delusional, my brainwashed friend.

That seem to be the odessa catacombs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odessa_Catacombs

Time to look at the rest of the story. You are missing it.


'Russia Started the War' and Other Fallacies

Mostly. Unfortunately what Trump does affects the US and the rest of the world and it is not possible to ignore it. A few of the things you mention, like the "police was welcoming people" do not match with the police dead. Perhaps the party got out of control or what's the cover for that?

If Russia wants friendly relations with his neighbours that's what they should be aiming for. They failed and used violence (they did not get the chick and decided to rape).

Anyway, back to Ukraine. I hope you slept well too.


Unlikely, a 0.0001% chance of that.

Congratulations. You are still alive, even though you are living with politics.

Trump's method of communicating isn't a problem for anyone except himself, maybe. Anybody who doesn't like it can stop listening.

Now you are simply lying. Trump didn't shoot or attempt to shoot anyone.

The videos show the Capitol police welcoming everyone in on January 6.

Trump was promoting free trade with Russia and the Ukraine and the US. Putin liked it. No war there.

Biden stopped the free trade with Russia. War is the result.

Putin doesn't want war. How do we know? He hasn't nuked the free world as he could if he were a war monger.

The whole thing is about bringing countries into NATO, countries that are bordering Russia. Quit threatening Russia. If there had been no serious threat to them, there would be no war right now, just like there was no threat to them with Trump.

Canada and Mexico have no strength to oppose Russia. If Russia moved into Canada or Mexico, and had friendly relations with them, wouldn't that irritate the US government?

Stop irritating Russia. Pull the US out of the Ukraine before the war goes worldwide with no chance of stopping it.

Did you have a good sleep?

It's another proof of constant denials by Russians. You can clearly see a bus with V on it so that Russians would not shoot it. There's no reason for Ukrainians to use that mark as it would draw fire from their own troops.
Russian answer - our soldiers don't drive in vans, you're stupid. They don't mark cars with V, it would only drive attention.

In reality:
Russian special forces use 'Red Cross' ambulances to practise brutal ambush techniques
Belarusian journalists received numerous photo and video reports of cars without licence plates, but marked with the V sign on the sides and bumpers driving on Belarusian roads.

When they catch you stealing, tell them it's all propaganda and you were not really there.
This is a prime example of how Russians really are. Lie when you get caught and maybe you'll make it somehow.
2 russians try to trick ukrainian police officer

I know nothing about what the US is not saying about their real capabilities (particularly in stealth and interception). The Russ military is so infiltrated that one of these days the specs of the S-500 are going to be published in a Brit tabloid along with the marital affairs of Jonny Deep. If you care to look at these specs you will find out that they are intended to intercept ICBM, not even Russia dares to claim intercepting a hypersonic missile - I mean a serious claim, not blah blah. (e.g. "we can intercept hypersonic cruise missiles because our missiles goes at this much speed" - basically ignoring why is it actually difficult to kill these boys - detecting on time.

They US guy is absolutely right - it does present difficulties as does the real threat: China. It is simply that you are claiming capabilities from the Russ systems that are simply not there (e.g. interception of hypersonic missiles) and then saying that "you do not need to convince" - AKA providing false information. I know you are trying to assure Russian people that they are safe on the basis of "superior weapons", but anyone with a VPN knows better. I really hope that people in Belgorod, now in artillery range from Ukraine, are not the first ones to find.

Indeed, hypersonic missiles are a serious problem, even with a limited "hypersonic" capability. Very difficult to detect and very difficult to stop, perfect for carrier killing. The US military is very open about it for one reason: they want funds to deal with this threat and they will get them.

Will Russia keep up the spending pace under sanctions that include electronic components and a GDP that is more than 10 times less than US? Not to mention NATO's full budget which ranges in the 20 times more? Who do you think is going to get to the NW and hypersonic interception capability before? And now the US citizens are even more keen into chipping in the coin to do it - thanks to who?... you know.