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The most disgusting thing is that they are so stuck in this lie that they have learned not to think outside it. When the world saw photos and videos of the maternity hospital in Mariupol after the attack, on which wounded pregnant women were shot, people from Russia began to ask how much they were paid for setting this up and applying makeup. That is, they explain all the evidence of houses razed to the ground, killed and wounded people from the standpoint that this is all an imitation, using which Kyiv wants to deceive the whole world.They don`t ask questions why Ukraine needs this? Why nobody in the whole world went out to protest with the Russian flag in support of the actions of the Russian government? Why were more that million of Ukrainians forced to leave our country in just 2 weeks? And other questions that could open their eyes. The bitter truth is that Russian people feel comfortable to live in a lie. Living this way doesn`t make them think about all this shitty atmosphere and conditions most of their population are living in. They prefer the myth about Great Empire rather then doing something to actually make their country great.
Yeah, I saw that story with pregnant women. I was disgusted to see how people were acting and how they called that moment. But I'm not surprised at all to see such things coming from Russia. It's like sanctions against Russia. All hate from people comes to West, but can't realize that only Putin is responsible for it.
BTW, that women already gave birth to her daughter. Congratulations to her.

The main reason why Eastern European countries joined NATO was to have defence against Russia and we now have proof that it was a good choice.
I'm happy that my country is part of NATO, otherwise probably we would be part of Russia for a long time already. But I still have some fears that if Russia would do something against US, for NATO we would be too small and insignificant to start WW3.
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That is, they have deliberately angered Russia. When Russia granted independence to Ukraine, there was a condition that they would not join NATO. But now, Zelenskyy has been at war with his neighbor at the instigation of NATO. Zelenskyy doesn't really want peace on his own or is stuck in NATO's trap

Sure, let's justify the aggression by saying that the Ukrainians are to blame. Maybe you would have a different opinion that this is an invasion of your country?

By the way, did you forget that in 2014, Russia invaded and subsequently illegally annexed the Crimean Peninsula from Ukraine? Ukraine had never even considered joining NATO before these events. Was this also NATO's instigation?
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What is the need to make friendship with overseas NATO, without building friendly relations with their own neighborhood?

Friendly relations with Putin's Russia are not possible, unless you go full lapdog like Lukashenko. Obviously Ukrainians don't want that (nor do the people of Belarus BTW). The main reason why Eastern European countries joined NATO was to have defence against Russia and we now have proof that it was a good choice.

A few days ago I heard a news report that Volodymyr Zelenskyy said that many overseas countries had promised help before the attack but he was not getting any help in time of need.

Ukraine is not a NATO member so they don't get direct military engagement from NATO. But "not getting any help" is clearly false, as you can find many videos of Javelins and NLAWs hitting Russian tanks.

That is, they have deliberately angered Russia. When Russia granted independence to Ukraine, there was a condition that they would not join NATO. But now, Zelenskyy has been at war with his neighbor at the instigation of NATO. Zelenskyy doesn't really want peace on his own or is stuck in NATO's trap

Russia didn't grant shit and it wasn't theirs to grant to begin with. The Soviet empire was falling apart and its previously annexed countries reclaimed their independence, including Ukraine. Rewriting history is a hobby of Russian autocrats.
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If Finland and Sweden show the same intention to join NATO like Ukraine, will Putin start other wars in those nations? Will he use the reason to denazification in those nations to legalize his war in his distorted perspective?
Putin is trying to scare western countries from forming an alliance against Russia. He is intentionally being ambiguous to scare NATO and Sweden and Finland, and to not put himself in a corner by having to attack these countries or lose credibility if he doesn't. Compare this to Biden who is outright saying that he will avoid a conflict at all costs.

Putin is doing the same thing with respect to the supply lines of weapons being sent to Ukraine. He is saying that weapons supply lines from Western countries into Ukraine are legitimate military targets. He is trying to scare the west out of helping Ukraine. Without the weapons the west is providing, Russia would have already won the war.

What is the need to make friendship with overseas NATO, without building friendly relations with their own neighborhood? A few days ago I heard a news report that Volodymyr Zelenskyy said that many overseas countries had promised help before the attack but he was not getting any help in time of need.

That is, they have deliberately angered Russia. When Russia granted independence to Ukraine, there was a condition that they would not join NATO. But now, Zelenskyy has been at war with his neighbor at the instigation of NATO. Zelenskyy doesn't really want peace on his own or is stuck in NATO's trap
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If Finland and Sweden show the same intention to join NATO like Ukraine, will Putin start other wars in those nations? Will he use the reason to denazification in those nations to legalize his war in his distorted perspective?
Putin is trying to scare western countries from forming an alliance against Russia. He is intentionally being ambiguous to scare NATO and Sweden and Finland, and to not put himself in a corner by having to attack these countries or lose credibility if he doesn't. Compare this to Biden who is outright saying that he will avoid a conflict at all costs.

Putin is doing the same thing with respect to the supply lines of weapons being sent to Ukraine. He is saying that weapons supply lines from Western countries into Ukraine are legitimate military targets. He is trying to scare the west out of helping Ukraine. Without the weapons the west is providing, Russia would have already won the war.
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You can't possibly know that. Any chemical/biological weapons facilities are generally going to be kept secret, and wont be known to the general public.


But Russia somehow can, right? You see, for some reason they believe that they have information that such weapons are produced in Ukraine on the instructions of the United States. They have no evidence, no basis, but for some reason they believe that they have the right to threaten us with the use of such lethal weapons against Ukraine. The most interesting thing is that they definitely have such weapons, because they have used them many times, for example in Syria.
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U.S. journalist killed by Russian forces in Ukraine. Believe this is the first death of someone from the West in this conflict: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/13/world/europe/brent-renaud-irpin.html
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Russell Bentley talks to Donbas High School students
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXyvbeKAbNo
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Military and political consequences may follow if the two countries join the pact, Sergei Belyaev, director of the Second European Department of Russia’s foreign ministry, told the state-owned news agency Interfax. Their non-participation in NATO is “an important factor in ensuring security and stability in northern Europe,” he said.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-12/russian-official-warns-finland-sweden-against-joining-national
Will they warn the whole world?

If Finland and Sweden show the same intention to join NATO like Ukraine, will Putin start other wars in those nations? Will he use the reason to denazification in those nations to legalize his war in his distorted perspective?

Putin is suck and he is destroying himself as well as Russians. Dictators often don't have happy endings if they are mad. Putin is mad with his power now so I expect an unhappy ending for him.

If communism is good, the whole world accepts it. In fact, only a few nations now have communism and Putin wants to bring it back in Russia. What for? For his dictatorship mainly.
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Some real reporting for a change
https://youtu.be/Lbiplu3Cyjg
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Military and political consequences may follow if the two countries join the pact, Sergei Belyaev, director of the Second European Department of Russia’s foreign ministry, told the state-owned news agency Interfax. Their non-participation in NATO is “an important factor in ensuring security and stability in northern Europe,” he said.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-12/russian-official-warns-finland-sweden-against-joining-national
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I just want to ask a question, what is the main function of the UN?
What is the need for an organization like the United Nations in the world?

You need to check out this article and I am sure you laugh your lungs out after reading the first page. The first topic that will appear is peace and security.



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Apart from calling the general assembly, they have not done anything to stop this war. They would do nothing in this war as they have done from the day they came into existence.
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There is definitely something fishy going on in Ukraine with regards to bio-weapons. It is unclear what exactly is going on, and there is the potential that the US is setting Russia up for embarrassment when they say their purpose of the invasion is to remove chemical weapons from Ukraine and are unable to find evidence of such.

No chemical or biological weapons are being developed on the territory of Ukraine. As a citizen of Ukraine,<>
You can't possibly know that. Any chemical/biological weapons facilities are generally going to be kept secret, and wont be known to the general public.

You can literally say the same thing for any country in the world. The last thing anyone is going to publicly admit is "we have chemical/biological weapons facilities here." But, of course, that doesn't mean we should all be paranoid. That doesn't mean we should send hundreds of thousands of troops and invade their country and occupy it, using nuclear weapons to intimidate them into submission. That doesn't mean we should force their people to "buy in" to our authoritarian regime. That doesn't mean we should bomb their cities. That doesn't mean we should kill thousands of people. That doesn't mean we should wage all out war. However, that is exactly what is taking place in Ukraine right now.
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There is definitely something fishy going on in Ukraine with regards to bio-weapons. It is unclear what exactly is going on, and there is the potential that the US is setting Russia up for embarrassment when they say their purpose of the invasion is to remove chemical weapons from Ukraine and are unable to find evidence of such.

No chemical or biological weapons are being developed on the territory of Ukraine. As a citizen of Ukraine,<>
You can't possibly know that. Any chemical/biological weapons facilities are generally going to be kept secret, and wont be known to the general public.

Alternatively, it gives Putin an excuse to launch some false flag operation - release a bioweapon and just blame the U.S. or Ukraine for releasing it. I'm thinking it will be the latter because these low effort false flag attempts seem to be the standard now.
I think Putin may use bio/chemical weapons and blame it on the US. I think he may claim that either the US launched a false flag operation or that the release of the weapons was the result of a bomb hitting a government/military building.

Russia started the talk about bioweapons after they invaded, so they are not using it as a pretext for the invasion. Putin did not expect this level of resistance. It is possible that Putin plans on covertly using these types of weapons as a means of getting Ukraine to surrender. It would really not be possible for Ukraine to defend against these types of attacks, however, Russia explicitly using these weapons may get countries like India to change their stance on the war.

It may also be that Putin wants to provide some damaged brain food for his own people... so for now, he is not conducting a war, he is fighting the Nazis, the Ukrainians and Russians are his people, civilian targets are only hit because there are troops inside, NATO is guilty of all this, whoever disagrees or says so in public is a criminal, ...

If you can believe that, you can also believe that Ukraine was creating WMD why not.
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There is definitely something fishy going on in Ukraine with regards to bio-weapons. It is unclear what exactly is going on, and there is the potential that the US is setting Russia up for embarrassment when they say their purpose of the invasion is to remove chemical weapons from Ukraine and are unable to find evidence of such.

No chemical or biological weapons are being developed on the territory of Ukraine. As a citizen of Ukraine,<>
You can't possibly know that. Any chemical/biological weapons facilities are generally going to be kept secret, and wont be known to the general public.

Alternatively, it gives Putin an excuse to launch some false flag operation - release a bioweapon and just blame the U.S. or Ukraine for releasing it. I'm thinking it will be the latter because these low effort false flag attempts seem to be the standard now.
I think Putin may use bio/chemical weapons and blame it on the US. I think he may claim that either the US launched a false flag operation or that the release of the weapons was the result of a bomb hitting a government/military building.

Russia started the talk about bioweapons after they invaded, so they are not using it as a pretext for the invasion. Putin did not expect this level of resistance. It is possible that Putin plans on covertly using these types of weapons as a means of getting Ukraine to surrender. It would really not be possible for Ukraine to defend against these types of attacks, however, Russia explicitly using these weapons may get countries like India to change their stance on the war.
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I just want to ask a question, what is the main function of the UN?
What is the need for an organization like the United Nations in the world?

What is the role of the UN when a war-like situation arises between two countries?

I do not see any other activity of the UN except the provocative activities between the internal and external problems of different countries. They have taken sides instead of negotiating between Russia and Ukraine like (Israel and Palestine) and are forcing Russia to move towards World War III through various economic bans. The world is now being controlled by some corrupt and incompetent people, On the other hand, the media is one of the biggest culprits and the center of corruption and propaganda.
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Well, Russia indeed is Empire or Lies. They lost themselves in their lies.
Yesterday Russian Defense ministry announced that they didn't hit materniy hospital in Mariupol. It was staged operation by Ukraine:
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/ukraine-russia-crisis-russia-says-mariupol-hospital-attack-staged-by-ukraine-2816202
But just some time later their foreign minister Lavrov confirmed that they attacked hospital in Mariupol intentionally because it turned into ''base of nationalists''

The most disgusting thing is that they are so stuck in this lie that they have learned not to think outside it. When the world saw photos and videos of the maternity hospital in Mariupol after the attack, on which wounded pregnant women were shot, people from Russia began to ask how much they were paid for setting this up and applying makeup. That is, they explain all the evidence of houses razed to the ground, killed and wounded people from the standpoint that this is all an imitation, using which Kyiv wants to deceive the whole world.They don`t ask questions why Ukraine needs this? Why nobody in the whole world went out to protest with the Russian flag in support of the actions of the Russian government? Why were more that million of Ukrainians forced to leave our country in just 2 weeks? And other questions that could open their eyes. The bitter truth is that Russian people feel comfortable to live in a lie. Living this way doesn`t make them think about all this shitty atmosphere and conditions most of their population are living in. They prefer the myth about Great Empire rather then doing something to actually make their country great.
You are absolutely right, the empire of lies is russia, nazism and fascism are in russia, there is a usual mirroring. It's like a counter-indicator, everything is reversed.
In the ru-branches of the forum, stubborn quilted jackets-putinists are sitting and telling lies about "great" russia and how putin outplayed everyone.
It's called clinical idiocy.
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Well, Russia indeed is Empire or Lies. They lost themselves in their lies.
Yesterday Russian Defense ministry announced that they didn't hit materniy hospital in Mariupol. It was staged operation by Ukraine:
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/ukraine-russia-crisis-russia-says-mariupol-hospital-attack-staged-by-ukraine-2816202
But just some time later their foreign minister Lavrov confirmed that they attacked hospital in Mariupol intentionally because it turned into ''base of nationalists''

The most disgusting thing is that they are so stuck in this lie that they have learned not to think outside it. When the world saw photos and videos of the maternity hospital in Mariupol after the attack, on which wounded pregnant women were shot, people from Russia began to ask how much they were paid for setting this up and applying makeup. That is, they explain all the evidence of houses razed to the ground, killed and wounded people from the standpoint that this is all an imitation, using which Kyiv wants to deceive the whole world.They don`t ask questions why Ukraine needs this? Why nobody in the whole world went out to protest with the Russian flag in support of the actions of the Russian government? Why were more that million of Ukrainians forced to leave our country in just 2 weeks? And other questions that could open their eyes. The bitter truth is that Russian people feel comfortable to live in a lie. Living this way doesn`t make them think about all this shitty atmosphere and conditions most of their population are living in. They prefer the myth about Great Empire rather then doing something to actually make their country great.
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Wat?

Russia isn't ruled by communism since the collapse of the Soviets. If you want to see what communism looks like
I knew the collapse of Soviet Union which looks like a began of something good. Putin took over and has brought it back unofficially. No one can deny what Putin has done is his attempt to bring Soviet Union back. From Russian politics to the current war, invasion in Ukraine.

What he distorted his national Constitution just because of his own power is a big shame. Such constitutional distortions happen in Russia, China, Belarus, why? Because they are under dictators and politics there are a joke. Dictators obsess about themselves, then think and say without them, their nations will collapse. No one can take over their positions at the moment so they have to change national constitutions.  Undecided
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Communication, propaganda in communism are full of lies because they are dictators and have almost full control in their regimes. It is normal to see how Putin tries to insert as many lies as possible into his communication machines.

Don't trust what communists say, see what they do. Apply it with what Putin says, what he does. I don't generalize what Putin does, what he is with what Russians are because it is absolutely wrong. However, if people trust Putin, in my opinion, they are either stupid, blinded or too naive.

What's wrong with Russians are they let Putin has power for too long, more than 20 years and allow him to change Constitution as much as he wants. It sucks and now I hope they see it's time to fight back Putin, for their own sake of freedom and the power of Russian people.

Wat?

Russia isn't ruled by communism since the collapse of the Soviets. If you want to see what communism looks like, see Trump's latest podcast with Joe Rogan... if you can find it, since it and its reuploads getting removed in a few hours after they get uploaded.

Luckily commy youtube isn't the only game in town:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/WdzbBWQbKhzd/
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