Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 305. (Read 73604 times)

New video, seems another boat got hit, and it was trying to deliver a new SAM to the island... hit-one-get-one-free kind of deal for the non-existent Bayraktar.

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1522853902101667842

Orwellian resolution by a country that employs Neo-Nazi mercenaries (Wagner group) to kill innocent civilians in Africa/Syria (and now in Ukraine).

What is next? Russia's UN resolution on not invading other countries and annexing their territories?

Russian dark humor I guess. Resolution on Nazism by Russia? That is a hoot.

"We have never attacked Ukraine"
"We have never invaded Ukraine"
"War is peace"
"Peace is war"
"We don't kill them, we denazify them"
"We don't destroy their civilian infrastructure, we demilitarize them"
"We don't rob them, we protect them"

Probably unrelated:


while in meeting #15, on the very next day, the vote called

"A global call for concrete action for the elimination of
racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance and the
comprehensive implementation of and follow-up to the Durban Declaration and
Programme of Action"

Ukraine obstained, while USA voted "N" (No).

I think there has to be shed further light on this issue, because the reasonings of Ukraine and USA of voting "No" for draft resolution  "A/C.3/75/L.49" (70a) are not given in context here. I admit, this looked strange to me as well, but further investigation is needed to get more detail.
If USA and Ukraine would have voted the same in similar drafting votes (as outlined above), this would look like a no-brainer, but this way it's worth to investigate before blaming or accusing anyone. Nobody knows why the US and UA voted against this draft, but the details could be clarifying.

To sum it up: Don't judge based on the first look of something.

It seems alliances seen in current war were formed 2 years ago

https://peoplesdispatch.org/2020/12/21/us-ukraine-vote-against-un-resolution-against-nazism/

So many "seems", but no sources. Do you want me to take this seriously?
That said, you're whole argumentation spins around distracting from the contents of the linked article.
As of the alleged camps, this was featured in many western media

And to make it clear: "Free" is a concept virtually non existent in a totalitarian "democracy" like Russia. It's pretty bold to claim people are " free to do what they wish" in such setting. Regarding re-education you might be right, when i cynically draw a comparison to the "occasional" not-reeducating taken place on the streets and in the homes of temporarily occupied cities. But, you would probably see a mass-grave of murdered civilians as an "alternative, completely trouble-free form of existence, for thousands of people in their new important community-role of biologically feeding the worms serving duty for the creation of fruitful soils"?

WTF; man, WT actual F? 

One trophy microwave and three large cans of Nutella per week.

I am not subscribed to Kadyrov's telegram channel and watch it occasionally. Definitely this is not a fake factory, I have no questions about the authenticity of its content, if you saw a fake there, please provide a specific link, otherwise it looks like slander.

Declaration of Remembrance and Solidarity, 2016. In 2015, the Restitution of Kresov was created.

True.  Badecker is reasonable adept at trolling and does act as an incentive for me to put a little effort into my game.  He and I are not really orbiting the same philosophical centroid though (as I see it) so the observation is only half valid.  Whether he sees you guys as self-offered victim class entities and handy back-boards to bounce 'truth-shots' off of, as do I, I have no idea.

You trying to give BADecker a run for his money?

For those who missed it:

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/lRscm9iNwOWx/

A fair number of the apparently wildly exaggerated 'bodies in pits' seem to have been those of Azov human shield civilians who got so thirsty that they failed to comply with directives to stay put in the residential building basements, and got into line-of-site of Ukranian snipers on the tops of those apartment buildings.

The 'stories' from Western media came from 'Maxar' (CIA) satellite images (even when they had no satellites over the area at the time) and did NOT show pits if anyone had bothered to open their eyes, but instead exactly what Bartlett saw when she visited the site in person.  Graves.  The "30 meter wide pits" came from the 'mayor' of Mariupol who was apparently taking a break from having coke fueled gay sex orgies with Zelensky somewhere in Poland most likely.


The 'meme' of chasing out the Nazis in WW-II I guess you mean.  (I left the image in-situ because it is amusing.)

Russian strategy seems to be to go into areas, hand out some food, vacate to let the ultra-nationalist jack-boots exercise their vengeance on the population ensuring that the population will never support 'ukraine' again, then 'normalize' the area as a client state.  Brilliant, and quite awful when one things about it.

If I had to guess, I would say that Zelensky is basically on Russia's side to make sure that the end-game works out to Russia's liking.  That being a relatively friendly population who are somewhat grateful to be saved by whoever comes along to save them...and a lot fewer ultra-nationalists.

As for the Western arms pouring in, from what I've heard most of them are being sold to third-parties before they are delivered.  It's just a money laundering hub as has been the case for a long time and especially since the color revolution of 2014.  If the arms even touch Ukrainian soil is is a formality, and it wouldn't surprise me to find out that in a lot of cases they didn't even do that.  Whoever takes over the Russian client state will probably end up with a shiny new arsenal of weapons that did make it into caches on Ukrainian soil.  Some say it will be 'the Jews' who are looking for a 'new Israel'.  Time will tell.

I think they're getting ready for the May 9 parade and don't want the rubble to ruin the TV show.

Also the smell is probably not too pleasant so they need to move the bodies out to one of those mass graves in the suburbs.

You know, the usual stuff that you do after you bombard the city for two months and leave it without power, water, food, medical facilities, etc. Replace the road signs, paint some curbs, erect a statue for a meme, and call it victory.

Sounds like typical propaganda targeting standard-grade retards.

What I would guess would be happening would be, yes, people are analyzed as well as possible to see who, of the obvious civilians, is fervently anti-Russian and likely to be a security problem in the new SE Russian client-state areas.  They would be considered undesirables and strongly encouraged to head West.

Of course there are Nazi-ish fighters, mercenaries, foreign 'advisers', etc dressing up like civilians and trying to escape.  These are probably what the above propaganda are 'accidentally' mis-identifying in their article.  I'm sure they are being taken away to 'camps', but I doubt that there is a lot of 're-education' going on in said camps.  At least not re-education going on under design and dedicated efforts of the Russians.

Seems like civilians are dropping through whatever filters are in place by the millions and free to do what they wish.  A tiny fraction of them seem to be getting on buses heading for Zelensky-ville.  Seems like in areas in which combat has mostly ceased, the peeps are just getting back to life.

I noticed that maps in some "vatnik" channels are getting zoomed in to ridiculous detail... they're literally counting individual streets being "captured" in villages in Donbas while completely ignoring the retreat around Kharkov.

That said, there are some LDNR/Kadyrov troops moving up from Mariupol so there might be one more push soon around Donetsk or Hulyaipole before May 9.

In theory, he should have around 900k professionals, minus the loses, but I am starting to doubt much the real ability of Russia to use even half of those troops. I do not think Putin has any intention of sending recruits against the highly experienced Ukrainian troops. That would be a political suicide even for this guy.

Involving Moldavia... In my view it would be a huge strategic mistake. The troops in Transnistria cannot be supplied from stable bases protected in friendly territory and far from Ukrainian range. I may be missing something, but that is basically an army corps that is cut-off from the main army - a 101 strategic mistake.

Using foreign troops is something as old as history - zero political cost, no bags coming home - cheap death. Napoleon used his Polish troops when carnage was going to happen, Romans the auxiliary troops,... It is not a sign of strength certainly.

EDITED TO UPDATE:

Why would Putin's psychos send a crane to the Theatre at Mariupol? Is there anything interesting to cover that they would need rebuilding in all urgency??

Didn't Russia make that mistake before (possibly Afghanistan)?
Also, AFAIK as an invader, to fully take over and hold a country, you'd need 4 times more soldiers than the victim country.
This is probably the reason to draw another 20k soldiers from Moldavia into UA, "borrowing" tens of thousands of foreign figthers from Syria, Iran. They have to cover their personell deficits in the army. They need experienced fighters with stamina, because the young recruits we falling like flies in face of a well trained enemy.
Chances may be that Putin already is all-in as soon as he involves Moldavia. I dnn't think he can keep the russian families calm when he starts mobilizing their russian sons and fathers. That might get interesting. He can't detain half of the population...

A very factual article indeed.


Nope. The fronts are not moving. Even for the Russian Army style of war, this is no progress. It is easy to validate.

Russia is at war with Ukraine. They have assembled and army, invaded another country and used military means. Russia has mobilised 190k soldiers and had to add more Tactical Cannon Fodder battalions when  they sustained more than 20% casualties (were massacred) in the Battle of Kiev.

You are fabricating a story that simply does not match the front lines and the information (that now is publicly available for anyone to see in the OSINT sources):

- Yes, Ukraine has shown that there will be no help from the fleet if trying to take Odessa. It is not about a few costly ships sunken, it is the inability to use the Russian Navy in the Black sea. That is an strategic achievement (and another reputational problem for Putin's Navy).

- Yes, Ukraine is showing videos of attacks using drones and Stugna-P's killing tanks, but that's for show. The real losses are happening when the artillery picks a full brigade of tanks in the open, unable to answer, unable to run or when the US passes satellite intelligence of critical targets.  Still, the new munitions sent by the US (razorblades) are going to provide plenty of "footage" and will keep Putin's soldiers looking to the sky, but it is the 155mm howis sent by Germany, France, US, Denmark and others that will do the butcher's job.

- And no, Ukraine resistance and payback is not fictitious. More than 15000 soldiers killed (conservative estimate), 12 generals, more than 300 senior officers and, most likely, around 1000 armoured vehicles of different types. That is not the drones, that is not only Javelins.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/05/06/high-death-toll-of-russian-generals-in-ukraine-a-blow-to-military-capability-a77609

This is from your own official sources.... https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/8/we-have-significant-losses-and-its-a-huge-tragedy-kremlin


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Interesting article about the current state of the russian army involved in UA "special military operation" and in general (german, use google translate for convenience):

https://www.nzz.ch/international/ukraine-russland-hat-fuer-den-krieg-zu-wenig-soldaten-ld.1682506

On the other hand, there have been interviews that raise concern that ukrainian's smartphones are searched by soldiers for "anti russian" content and people are checked for their opinions on russian politics. Based on their answers and smartphone findings they are detained to be sent to russian "reeducation camps" (like Uigurs in China), otherwise being handed a paper that allows them to move freely in Ukraine as well to immigrate to Russia.
De-Nazification at its best... 

And Russians probably can't understand how Ukrainians can travel free without any visa across whole EU/Schengen Area, while Russians aren't welcomed there.

It's not about deepfakes or something else. My point that's Kadyrov TikTok Telegram is one of many not reliable Russians sources. Quite fresh example about liberated village, which actually was under LPR control since 2014 and it's far from front line. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this stuff was posted on Kadyrov telegram.

You're right, I didn't know about it. Could you share some links to read about it because I can't anything about Ukraine abandoning western regions in favor of Poland.
Anyway, this agenda that Europe is planning to share Ukraine in parts looks more than ridiculous. Following such logic we can say that other countries have interests in Russian territories like Konigsber or Karelia and NATO trainings near to it is preparations to invade it.

So, we came to conclusion that Russia isn't able to negotiate. Because giving ultimatum isn't offer to negotiate.

Thanks for clarification, so i was really meaning mobilization, then. My dictionary translated "draft" like "to draw in", that explains the confusion.
I hope you used that special-military-operation quotes for use on the term "officially" 

Draft (conscription) is usually an annual event to sign up 18-year-olds for training (6-12 months). Few countries still have mandatory draft, including Russia. Most countries don't have it (instead relying on voluntary/contract/professional forces), but e.g. in the US men are still required to register for it, and draft can be re-instated in the event of a war.

Mobilization is assembling a military force for a specific purpose (e.g. a war) and it involves everyone of military age (18-60 or so), so it's much more than a draft.

Mobilization is ongoing in Ukraine right now, but not in Russia, since it's "officially" not at war.

(sorry for multiple edits, my browser is having one of those days)

Yes, after looking up "draft" in a dictionary. Every russian man capable of serving the army will be drafted. I'm not a native speaker, btw.


How much do you get paid for shilling russian war propaganda?
Putin's troll army is not a secret anymore, you might have noticed already....