Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 322. (Read 77154 times)

I believe he was accused of espionage or similar? My guess is that he attended the same class as be.open at the Russian Ministry of Dark Humour and Fantasyland Tales judging for the "news" he published, which many times were not news at all.

My guess is that he is no longer, perhaps chanting the glories of Putin right when he is shelling the whole country is something that can be classed as a high risk activity. Who knows, maybe he was hit by an Iskander.


46 according to some sources, but not Nazis, just not pro-Russians. That may be the same to you anyway... not pro-Russian = Nazi. This was caused by a widespread confrontation between pro-Maidan and pro-Russian demonstrators and people were killed on both sides before the Trade Unions House incident. Sadly, on wars and confrontations, you only know how they begin, not how they will end.


It is working well sure... except for the thousands of dead Russian soldiers.

What happened to Gonzalo Lira?

https://showbizcorner.com/gonzalo-lira-ukraine-army-kidnapped-the-journalist

70% of the hostilities were conducted on the territory of Ukraine, and at least 40% of all human casualties in this war were Ukrainians, so if it were not for Soviet Ukraine, then Moscow would now speak German. I'm not talking about exact numbers, but I hope you understand what I'm talking about.

As far as I know, journalists have not had access to Mariupol since the beginning of March, and all we have is satellite imagery and drone footage. I understand that there is quite a lot of misinformation from both the Ukrainian and Russian sides, but I know for sure that the information about civilian casualties is VERY an understatement. In addition, my sister's relatives, thank God, finally managed to leave Mariupol and migrate to Poland (only girls and their children), and I can say from the first mouth that the indigenous people of Mariupol will never forgive what Russia did to this beautiful port city.

Won. Lost. It's all a matter of perspective. For instance, Russia attacked Poland hand in hand with the Nazi Germans (only nazis there ever were, despite Russian propaganda calling Ukrainians this way). Russians showed they had no spine, trying once again to murder and subdue, like vultures. Eventually they were forced to change sides because Hitler was even more greedy and that move put Russians on the side of the Allies. Nowadays they think of themselves as the saviors of Europe, the enemies of Hitler. They don't like to be reminded that they were his allies, just got cheated and fought back.

Finland wanted to be neutral, but got attacked by overwhelming Russian forces and managed to defend itself pretty well, much like Ukraine is doing now. We could say Finland won, but the history books say something else. Finland continued to fight against Russia when it joined forces with the Allies to fight the Germans, which formally placed it on the side of the Axis, the losing side. Was it the fault of Finland in any way? It wasn't the aggressor, it wasn't the loser, yet it lost and had to give up part of its territories to the country that was the second biggest bully in Europe at the time, the same country that continues to be the biggest bully today, when there's no Third Reich anymore.

IMO Russia formally won WW2, but it shouldn't have. When someone invades your home and shoots you, there are consequences. He can't change his mind during the assault, apologize and bandage your wounds, what's done is already done. Russians invaded countries, killed and raped people and then changed their minds and started playing the victim and the whole world accepted it and allowed them to do what they wanted and have the borders they wanted.

Meanwhile new mass graves are showing up near Mariupol:

https://www.space.com/mass-grave-mariupol-ukraine-satellite-photos

Same pattern as in Bucha, Russian-controlled territory, civilian deaths, I'm guessing Russian propaganda excuses will be the same ("nazis" are not civilians and everyone is a "nazi" / Ukrainians are killing each other / "pindos" satellite fake photos / etc). Can't use the one about "3 days to set up a Hollywood film set"... or maybe they can, logic doesn't have to be part of it.

Mariupol is much larger than Bucha or even all Russian-ravaged Kyiv suburbs, and was shelled indiscriminately for nearly two months, so the scale of civilian killings is likely to be much larger as well.

I don't have another social bubble.


I think the right to speak one's own language in one's own land is not a subject for negotiations.

For example, on May 2, 2014, the Nazis of the Right Sector shot and burned alive 48 Russian-speaking people in Odessa in the House of Trade Unions. This became the trigger for the civil war in Donbass, which has been going on for almost 8 years. And which will end with the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine thanks to the intervention of Russia.

One major point. Unless you are on the ground in the Ukraine, you will never know what is happening over there.

The media lies.
People who report from there, can't be trusted... for all you know... except that you are friends with them personally.

But that's just your social bubble, it probably can't reflect whole Russia. I think it's difficult to deny that hatred of Ukrainians isn't a thing.
From my personal experience with Russians - most of them are good people, as long as you don't start to talk about politics with them.

Well, that's one of questions where I don't agree with Ukraine position. I think they had to give regional language status to Russian language. And I think it's one of few questions which can be discussed with Russia. But all these negotiations which happened so far were completely pointless.

You contradict yourself with this sentence. Big part of Ukrainian population speaks Russian without any issues and at the same time there is oppression of Russian speaking people. Could you show few examples of such discrimination?

Wait a minute...if Russia won in Syria, what happened in WW2, they lost?

the Russian army of impotents lost this war completely. The Russian army is unable to conduct combat operations, there is a rout on all fronts.
This is not surprising, in the 20th century Russia fought 6 wars, lost 5 of them.
Russians can only rob, kill civilians.
This is what they do well.

It is difficult to grow when it seems that Ukraine is lying like a fixed organ donor on the operating table, and region after region is cut off from it. Not the best time to analyze existential threats.

Putin's plan seems to be working well. I admire the quality of the planning of this operation by Russia, although there are some difficulties with the implementation. Threatening to take Kyiv from the north, Russia fettered a large grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which seems to be very lacking now in the Donbass. There are rumors that the DPR is preparing to receive and accommodate 30-50 thousand captured soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine after the recently started battle in the Donbass. The chances of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this battle do not look very optimistic - to die, surrender or try to retreat to the West in an organized manner, leaving their well-fortified positions, these are essentially all the options. I do not see any prerequisites for counter-attacks by the Armed Forces of Ukraine under continuous artillery and rocket fire. I think the Armed Forces of Ukraine may begin to retreat to the cities and try to draw Russia into urban battles, like in Mariupol, hiding behind civilians - but this is a tactic of terrorists, not a regular army. And Russia has a short conversation with terrorists.

Just a lucky guess.

Sure, Putin is in Mariupol for humanitarian reasons   You are the best!

Ukraine can grow as a country with the West, debt is not an issue, existential threats are. Besides, there are a few yachts confiscated that may cover for it.

Sure, keep on thinking that Putin can destroy the weapons sent with throwing missiles - seems to me as effective as the idea of taking Kyiv. You remember?

One death is an irreparable loss. Thousands of deaths is a reasonable measured risk in this context. Putin today gave the order not to storm the bunker near Azovstal in order to save the lives of special forces soldiers. He ordered Shoigu to simply block it so that the fly would not fly by.

I hope you understand that all Western military assistance to Ukraine is a loan that will have to be repaid in the future. Including those weapons that the Russians are blowing up with Calibers in Lviv.

I think Russia's military maneuver in northern Ukraine was mostly a distraction, plus to take control of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant and prevent provocations from Ukraine with radioactive contamination of the area. It could have been executed more successfully and prevented a provocation in Bucha, but it turned out the way it did.

Russia is conducting this operation with inadequately small forces. I think Putin managed to surprise Western intelligence, who hardly expected that this was even possible in principle.

I didn't know you could get them on Amazon, but I guess I shouldn't be too surprised.  I just did an image search for 'rainbow dildo' and that was the least NSFW one which came up on the first page.  Did you already get one, or just signed in to your Amazon account to look?

Patrick Lancaster certainly cannot be denied courage. A front-line reporter is a dangerous job, sometimes he is at a distance of less than 100 meters from the line of fire.

Too bad, his last stream with Scott Ritter is very educational.

Your way of thinking in slogans is very amusing, the style of a rural gopnik has been detected. Axмaт - cилa! Allah Akbar!

This thread is not about your purchases from Amazon, unless you are forecasting Putin's future with that?

A shortage of energy in Europe impeding the manufacturing of weapons you say? Is that what Putin's media says? I am amazed at their creativity... perhaps decades ago they collected something from the fields of poppies in Afghanistan and their are still smoking it.

The calculation is simple, if Germany, France and perhaps some of the minors effectively rise the military spending to 2%, it would already surpass Russia (which spends already 11% of their GDP on weapons). Putin's Tzardom is simply outclassed.

It is true, some countries in Europe are passing their old Soviet tanks, SAMs and jets and getting cute modern NATO weaponry. It is like when the government gives you a bonus for changing your car to a better one.

Are you saying Ukraine (which isn't a real country according to Putin) used trash weapons that nobody else even wanted to stop the mighty Russian army (and friends) from taking Kiev and forced them to abandon their primary mission and retreat?

How embarrassing.

It (skepticism of orthodox mainstream information/norms) used to be that way more, but honestly there have been a surprising number of 'normies' even in the early days.  The main difference between the anacro-normies and today's crop is that the old-timers generally liked crypto-currency (and are now fairly well off.)  The noobs come in all shades in terms of their disposition toward crypto, and are generally not so well off one would expect of the early adopters.

I do suspect that once some of the real power-players in society recognized the complications possible from the development of distributed crypto-currencies, they had their troll-farm contractors assign some resources to the issue and some of they landed here.  Some of them may have stayed even as the importance of this forum waned.  Or not.