Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 323. (Read 73577 times)

Looks like they killed this guy Gonzalo who have been exposing the western intelligence propaganda in Ukraine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTSLzMDlCRc

Today, soldiers of the Akhmat special forces, together the people's militia of the LPR, occupied the settlements of Kremennaya and Staraya Krasnyanka. Massive artillery preparation continues, more than a thousand rockets and shells were fired at the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine per day.

Also, in my opinion, the successful test launch of the Sarmat rocket deserves attention.

Do you know what evidence is accepted by courts as irrefutable? I'm asking because the Pentagon could not unequivocally confirm the version of Ukraine about Bucha, and the head of the UN asked for an independent investigation.
That is, the Pentagon is not sure, the UN doesn't know, but suchmoon from the Bitcointalk has already figured out everything. Only as a result of a forensic medical examination the exact date, place and cause of death of Buchan residents will be established.



The satellite images which were published by the NYT, raised questions from a Turkish news site after examining the satellite's trajectory and the direction of the shadows in the images.

In addition, what can you say about the residents of the Rozovsky district in Zaporozhye, who, instead of fleeing without looking back or fighting against Russia, voted to join the Donetsk People's Republic, who are in alliance with Russia?

Also, the Dutch journalist Sonya Van Den Ende released a report from Volnovakha (Donbass), after this place was occupied by Russian troops. The journalist doesn't say that the military commit war crimes against Ukrainian civilians.

About looting. Presumably you mean this video? - https://youtu.be/6vyY4rnJ7lA
If there is a strong evidence, then criminal cases of looting should be opened in Ukraine and Russia, the names of conditional criminals and the amount of stolen goods should be announced at the official level. Has anyone heard of this or are all investigations and persecutions now taking place only in the information field?

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Here is a very fresh video from Mariupol: https://youtu.be/YZGo5roYEJE

The fact that this is Mariupol in 2022 is partially confirmed by the words at the end of the video about the escaped mayor Vadim Boychenko, as well as about the military who are hiding at the plant and the name of the street.
In this video, several women in broad daylight on a busy street publicly accused the Ukrainian army of crimes against local residents. Do you think they brazenly lie, not being afraid that passers-by may catch them in a lie? Or maybe all these people on the street are actors or too scared to tell the truth? Submit your versions.
If you do not believe these reports, then invite independent journalists and human rights activists who will interview the population of Mariupol about what has been happening in the city for the past two months.

Probably, many forum users will be interested to know what they talked about. I will quote their words here.



00:00 - 00:13 First woman (with girl)
We ask for a parade! And we want these Ukrainians who destroyed our city to be taken out at the parade and we want to spit in their faces because our children are suffering.

00:13 - 00:20 Second woman (without right arm)
They left us without shit, without food, without water. Sorry, I'm disabled, without a hand. They left me with shit.

00:20 - 00:35 First woman continued
They drove into the yards and shot. They said: "This is for you because you made a referendum in 2014". They drove back and forth here and shot in the yards. They said: "If you interfere with us, then we shoot to kill".

00:35 - 00:40 Third woman
They took people out of the 9-floor house and said...

00:40 - 00:41 First woman screamed
Women were raped!

00:41 - 00:48 Third woman
... that people have to leave their homes within an hour, and after that they set fire to everything, and ...

00:49 - 01:00 First woman
Personally, we ... the 9-floor house was on fire, we personally were in a bomb shelter, the boys helped people take things out to the bomb shelter. They started shooting at the legs.

01:00 - 01:02 The operator asks
Who? Who?

01:02 - 01:11 First woman
This is Ukraine, our so-called defenders who hide, bitches, in factories! It's these creatures that we want to spit in the face.

01:11 - 01:25 Second woman (without right arm)
They asked residents: "Is it possible to climb onto the 9-floor house? The residents said "no". Then, they say: "The kingdom of heaven to you", - they said to these people who lived in the house. This is the kingdom of heaven for them.

01:25 - 01:28 First woman
Yes, yes. Broke houses.

01:28 - 01:33 Third woman
There are houses completely burnt out, 9-floor houses.

01:37 - 01:50 Fourth woman (older)
Let me tell. My dad is 84 years old from the left bank, in order to get to his daughter, he walked along the road under fire. It was picked up and brought to me by volunteers.

01:51 - 01:55 First woman
Let the whole country know that western Ukraine is a brute!

01:56 - 02:00 Third woman shouts at some passerby
12 corridors are open?!... Not a single corridor was! No one!

02:00 - 03:10 First woman
Let them come and recover everything that they have destroyed. They will eat pancakes, and we will rebuild it? Here behind Levchenko (apparently about the street) people were sitting, they were kept there. They were told that if you leave, we will shoot you as traitors. Women were raped, men were beaten. Corpses, here you go. They say: "Here is your 200th, if you want, take it". Burial was not even allowed. That's what the creatures did! Today people went, my neighbor's boyfriend went to take our work books, and he says: "It's good that you didn't go with me, it's just hot there. Dogs carry corpses and dogs eat it all". It's terrible what's going on. The children saw it all (points to the girl), they see everything. This is a brute. When the DPR came in, I swear to you (she crosses herself), I cooked porridge for them. I cook porridge, the boys came in. Porridge, medicines - everything is for them. I say, boys, thank you very much. I want to say thank you to Russia for freeing us from this beast.

03:10 - 03:20 Third woman
Such information has reached us, maybe it's gossip. Zelensky said that he gives 10 years to those who receive Russian rations.

03:20 - 03:26 First woman
Where is Zelensky?! Where is our Boychenko?! Where?!

03:26 - 03:32 Third woman
Didn't help at all, he abandoned people and simply vanished!

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As far as I understand, the source for the rumors about Russian mobile crematorium is an article in The Telegraph magazine.
Apart from rumors, is there any evidence that Russian troops are now using similar machines in Ukraine? The firm that produces them claims that they are "not intended to be used for ritual purposes and the destruction of Gruz-200 (i.e. dead bodies)."

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I have already commented on the Wagner group before.

Did not write anything about Putin. Just that i know Bidens handlers want this war.

They knew what would trigger Moscow. Look at S&P500. The decline stopped when the invasion started.
Some are making BIG money.


https://www.infowars.com/posts/washington-post-admits-nato-wants-to-prolong-war-in-ukraine/

"In an article about the potential for a peace deal between Ukraine and Russia, the Washington Post admits that some within NATO want to prolong the war for as long as possible."

You started that in 2014 and look what that got you

Shut the fuck up with this cynical garbage. Russians are raping, stealing, torturing, and executing civilians.

Stop this nonsense.

Why the fuck did Russian terrorists (Rashists) start this mayhem?

This territorial power grab will not go unpunished. Trust me.  They started Afghanistan squared.

All Russian soldiers, their collaborators, and their families will be liquidated, one by one.

Putin is not God. Patrick Lancaster is not a journalist.

https://rumble.com/v11pemp-mariupol-residents-accuse-ukraine-of-firing-on-civilians.html

God wants me to share this.

Civilians in Ukraine saying their own military shooting at them.
To create media propaganda of course. CNN will not ask for evidence.

Bidens handlers want this war.

Spread the word.

Yeah, I know. I live in the city where I was born and I like everything here in general. The Russian people in general are usually completely apolitical and well decentralized, Putin does not tell me how to live directly, and his policies generally suit me well. It is always possible to do something better, but it is not necessary for this to gather in a crowd and arrange a rally about it. Here Ukraine jumped on the Maidan, and it brought a lot of happiness to it? I am a crypto-anarchist and I try not to get into politics without a good reason, so there are more important things.

I am glad that Ukraine felt its national spirit during the operation - this means that it will remain an independent sovereign state. You just have to change the national idea from "kill the Russians" to something more appropriate in a decent European civilized society, where Ukraine itself is so eager. It seems Ukrainian refugees in Europe are no longer very welcome.

That would be ideal yes. The problem is war. War is very personal, it cannot be treated with any objectivity because it consists of people trying to kill others for their gain. When, on top of that, quite a few of the people here are throwing paragraph after paragraph of official propaganda and trying to make facts doubtful or subject to opinion, they certainly deserve some personalised attention.

               I have been reading the responses of the people here and I have gained better insight about the situation in Ukraine and Russia, how people are coping or reacting to these incidents. But the conversation is somehow progressing in an ugly manner. It is slowly becoming personal attacks now instead of being informative. It would be nice if we keep on the topic itself for the sake of spreading authentic and good information which is pretty rare to find on local news nowadays. Thanks and have a great day everyone.

It may seem like something completely new and astonishing for you, but there are places where you cannot only criticise your leaders while drinking, you - prepare to be mind-blown - can actually oppose their politics in public without being poisoned, killed or sent to prison. You may not even believe this, but there is even a chance that you can ... sit down, get ready for this... vote to change them if you think they got it wrong! No, I am not kidding you, those places exist!


Is not an operation, but I know you are not allowed to say so. It is a war of aggression - an invasion of a free country by a despot.

In the latest language map I got, Russian is majoritarian in most of the east and I am yet to see a source (other than the Russian Ministry of Dark Humour and Fantasyland Tales) effectively banning any language in any territory of Ukraine - which is quite multicultural and multilingual.

Ukrainians are speaking of this as their (second) war of independence. Putin has managed to create a national unity spirit on a country that is varied and socially a bit chaotic (in the best sense).


Whoever prepares the scripts of be.open is speaking to people who have not ever experienced a war or even a post-war. Anyone that has some contact with a war, even if it is a generation after, clearly understands your point: hate may last many decades, sometimes centuries. Putin does not care to send their young to die, nor cares about the future because he is nearly 70 and is just looking for a page in the Russian history books as "the rebuilder of the Russian empire". Tough luck, his legacy will only be of hatred, death and poverty for his serfs and for his neighbourgs.


Similar? Then you are admitting Putin's war is genocide?


Perhaps you can explain why the Russian police arrests a guy with a BLANK sheet of paper in the Red Square and then make questions yourself?



 

There is a sufficient amount of documentary evidence of discrimination against the Russian language and its speakers in the Donbass.

Yes, I was amused by this flight of fantasy of Ukrainian propaganda. I also need your asphalt, street lamp and toilet.
Yes.

Good question. I think that Russia launched a preemptive strike not only in the Donbass, but also from the north and south - mainly in order to quickly push the Ukrainian army 100-150 km away from the border with Russia, and thus deprive the Armed Forces of Ukraine of shooting at Russian territory from stationary positions. The longest-range Ukrainian rocket Tochka-U has a maximum flight range of 120 km.
I think Ukraine itself was preparing to attack the Donbass in early March, for which it concentrated a powerful strike force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the eastern direction along the entire line of contact. If Russia had not launched a preemptive strike, Ukraine would have crushed the people's militia of Donbass with a powerful assault and NATO would have closed the sky over Ukraine. Russia would have to fight in extremely unfavorable conditions for itself. The operation is well prepared, and extremely forced.

You are Russian speaker?Do you know why Russia invaded so much of Ukraine and why they did not just invade the parts in the east where they are now concentrated?Why did they risk losing so many of their soldiers and equipment because that seemed to be a suicide mission from the beginning?
Also why did they not just use missiles to target the parts in ukraine where they claim there is military targets instead of sending all those troops so far into Ukraine without any logistics or proper supplies.
If anything it should be the Russian mothers and families of those soldiers whose lives have been wasted your government should be afraid of because if I was a Russian person and some politican sent my son or brother into a war the way some of those soldiers were I would be fucking angry and at least be throwing rocks at the scumbag politicans who literally sent them to their death.

Man, Ignoring is the best way to save your nerves.

Full blooded nazies.

So how come POLICE is harassing an American wearing t-shirt with "Russia" written on it?
Not some hooligans, but police

This is not true. Don't listen to Putin's propaganda. They brainwash you and people like you. I'm living in Kiev right now, and I never heard or saw a negative reaction to Russian speech during the war, let alone before it.

Of course I understand that in a big country like Ukraine anything can happen, but those are rare cases and propaganda is feeding you with them.

Btw, can you explain what does "I need your microwave and Nutella"



in your Personal Text mean?

Do you really support these people,



or think it's funny?

One American decided to test it by himself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1EqK4suenY

It seems you live in an illusory information bubble, having little contact with reality. Stores in Ukraine massively refused to serve Russian-speaking customers. In the bars of Ukraine, Russian speech could easily become a strong argument for a fight. Ukrainians are bilingual people and their attempt to ban the Russian language is absurd, because it impoverishes them and linguistically the Ukrainian language is not a self-sufficient dialect of Russian.

The amount of aggression from staunch pacifists in this topic is surprising. You yourself seemed to want to make war with Russia, what are you actually complaining about? Just a month and a half of the operation and Ukraine is already tired?