Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 361. (Read 78223 times)

How did you people who are complaining about Ukrainian neonazis feel about the Freedom Convoy being smeared in the media for being neonazis because a handful of them apparently were? It's the same thing. You can't judge a whole country/movement based on just a few non-representative anecdotes.

I'm sure that the Ukrainian government is corrupt and has oppressed many people within its borders at various occasions, BTW, which is why I wouldn't donate to their official BTC addresses or anything like that. Just because one side is bad doesn't mean that the other side is good. But that doesn't justify Putin's invasion. If government corruption or bad domestic policies justified war, then everyone would be at war with everyone. IMO the US's invasion of Iraq was far from a justified war, and Ukraine is way better than Iraq was.

You are giving massive credit to a picture of a number of dumbasses that, to be honest, could have been taken anywhere at anytime.

I am not sure who gives a fuck about Brazil, is just an example of how Nazis are everywhere and Putin will have plenty of work. I mean, if he is still there next month.

Hey Putin, while you're at it, maybe you should try to de-nazify the U.S. as well?



Just another random picture where people dressed all soldiers and shit and carrying sniper rifles and nazi flags...

Brazil... Who gives a fuck about Brazil? Nobody.


Yeah it is a random picture where people dressed all soldier and shit and carrying rocket launchers and nazi flags.

It's like Trump got you turned on to the idea, but defending a Totalitarian wannabe wasn't enough.  With Putin you get the real deal. Look at how he's pwning those libs!

Actually, some of these are PART of several regional governments! In the case of Brazil, these are supporters of Bolsonaro, the current president.

This is slightly less crap and random as the picture you show. The fact is are that the Donbas region is in conflict and that has nothing to do with Nazi ideology and the existance of pro-Putin militias in the area. Nothing to do with Nazism, just with Putin's funded separtism.

Exactly.

Look at the wiki page on the Right Sector, a far-right Ukrainian nationalist political party.

and look how many of them in the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, the Supreme Council of Ukraine:



Zero. Putin is a liar.

^ None of these people above are a military force funded by the government. They are random crap.

So Putin, the defender of the Nazi oppressed people of the world is actually imposing to another country how their constitutions should be. You just cannot take the despot mind out of a despot/.


So tired of the "nazi" argument and a "nazi government" led by a jew, that I have decided to give Putin more work....

United Kingdom


Italy


 Brazil


Spain (in which by the way the Nationalists are part of several regional governmetns)


Egypt


Syria (his ally)



And finally, Russia. Seems like he forgot de-nazifying his backyard first!




So.. Putin, are you now going to de-nazify the rest of the world?? Or are you actually Putinifying

World and Ukraine on March 5, 2022
https://youtu.be/LzCDkLi3xSU?t=20

Independent British journalist
https://youtu.be/F9NWe2kdJBk?t=197

In other news

Luhansk, area 3,234 sq mi, pop 1.5 mil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luhansk_People's_Republic
https://glava-lnr.su/
and Donetsk, area 3,437 sq mi, pop 2.3 mil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donetsk_People's_Republic
https://dnronline.su/

No they are freedom fighters, fighting for the independence of the Great Slava Ukraina. They are not extremists, they are patriots.



Do they look like Nazis to you?

Hit a fact checker asap.

I have just read up on this Azov so called white supremacist movement.Does the Ukranian government endorse these people or are they listed as an extremist group?Are there actual nazis in these movements or is this some anti-white race propaganda by mainstream media? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion

Oh, they have, they just make it less obvious. At least parties and groups, not whole governments, you're right there.
However, with the "right" leadership on command, many european countries could create such armed structures in a snap, because the underground militia is already there, self-conserving since WW2, with connections to social and political realms.
In Ukraine you see the sprouts, the rest are still like seeds in the ground. Just add some water and you're there.

Russia. In Russia, the entire army consists of Nazis. They are so worried about the possibility of the Nazis being in Ukraine, because, apparently, they are afraid of competition.

And what country in particular has its own nazi battalion like Azov fully incorperated in armed forces or a nazi political party?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59436134
In modern time there is no place for such junk.

Some european broadcasting companies have resumed sending international news out via short wave radio.
That can't be jammed or locked out, while reaching the most distance spot of Russia, without needing internet connections.
It's astonishing that civilians and companies, but also groups like Anonymous are joining the war against Putin and his Sovjet-buddies in increasing numbers, while the worlds governments are still buying Russia's oil and gas for billions per day.
There's a hidden message to all these governments. You can also see in polls that the control-heavy, governmental "management" of the pandemic has fueled massive distrust in the people.

In other spheres, yesterday after just leaving a store, i heard a worker on the street laughing out loud, after telling his co-workers that he will soon be enjoying the fresh ukrainian meat in the local brothels. I thought about the hundreds of thousand wifes and daughters, kissing their fathers, sons and husbands good bye at the polish-ukrainian border, who decided to stay and defend their home country, while the russian born wife of one of my neighbors, mother of a four moths old, is going fully depressive over her motherland's shithole government actions.
I felt loosing it, turned to the fucker and said: "If you have the balls to repeat this in front of your wife, she will likely cut of your balls when you are asleep. Then i will be laughing the same like you". Silence, while i went away.


Europe has way more Neonazis than the whole of Ukraine, still a lot less than a percent of the population.
So it's OK for Russia or any superpower to invade Europe and kill civilians on a broad scale, then? "De-nazifying" countries, exactly the way Adolf was trying to "arianize" Europe (and the world, if he wouldn't have failed)?
Regardless of nationality, the real enemy is right behind our eyes, telling us we're better, more important than anybody else.

Time and time again the same names pop up, when will the rotten apples be discarded?


Ukraine: The Central Nexus for Neo-Nazism Worldwide
https://youtu.be/iQUhOj83V9U

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/mar/07/ukraine-news-russia-war-latest-news-vladimir-putin-zelenskiy-kyiv-russian-invasion-civilian-attacks-irpin-ceasefire-live-updates?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with:block-622597658f0885faa96cac68#block-622597658f0885faa96cac68

Looks like theres still a chance to get civilians out. Hopefully Macron can apply pressure on both sides to force them to let the people through. Red Cross should get its own drones to make sure that no one plays dirty, civilians shouldn't be kept in the besieged city under any pretense.

Most of the wars of the US and allies in this century are cynically sold as something else and covered in buzz words such as freedom and democracy until these words have become meaningless. Putin's invasion of Ukraine is also covered in cynic arguments and blatant lies.

Yet, for me, not all wars are the same. While Ukraine's democracy may be less than ideal, it is still a democracy. People have a say, press have a say and, eventually they can drive their destiny - subject to intromissions and pressure yes, like all other countries - but with the people's choice on what to do about it.

And that is why I deplore US intervention in Irak, Saudi Arabia's operations in Sudan, Israel's land grabbing, Europe's operations in several African countries, Ethiopia's own "holomordor" in Tigray, China's treatment of the Uyghur, Daesh acts (in general and particular destroying 3000 year old Assirian ruins),  and countless other acts of aggression.

Yet, at the same time, I do know that, in this case, I have a clear personal stance with Ukraine and a chance to have a future outside Putin's Tzardom. This is an endless war: it is the Hellenic League against the Persian empire, the Republican's against Julius Cesar, the French Revolution against the absolutists, the Parliament against the King of England, the Spanish Republic against Franco, the allies versus Hitler.... one of the few fights worth being fought.

Good analysis.  I'll bet the guy us mostly right.  I've usually gotten something out of 'Duran' analysis but it's not one that I follow regularly.

It occurs to me that the American media has got 'the Left' apoplectic about 'white supremacists' already and ready to do damn near anything to fight the menace.  The missing ingredient in America has been actual living breathing 'white supremacists'.  Ten buck says that a whole bunch of 'immigration' happens of these displaced neo-nazis and they fill in this missing piece.

Looks like California has already been busy making comfortable the 'expeditionary forces' by having them work with the state's national guard.

  https://www.army.mil/article/194246/california_ng_ukrainian_forces_maintain_partnership_program

There is no way that creeps like Newsom, Pelosi, etc, or their controllers, are not working hand-in-glove with Putin.  And what better cover than to shriek 'Russian Bots' all day long?