Topic: Ryan Pumper: Pumpers Picks (Updated Daily) - page 62. (Read 221164 times)

One other thing I would like to know - one of the articles on the site states:




Now I may be misreading, but this seems to be implying that it is possible to always buy at the "absolute bottom" by recognising when a coin has dropped to 99% of its value?
This sounds fine - but - I HAVE seen coins lose more than 100% of their value - when they get delisted by exchanges, they effectively become worthless.

Additionally, there are plenty of ways a coin can drop in value by more than 99% , but never drop by 100% (buying into the idea, for a moment, that it is impossible for a coin to drop by 100% of its value).

For example, it could drop by 99.1% in value. Or 99.9% in value. Or 99.9999% in value. I hope you understand what I am getting at here?

Much of the philosophy on the site seems to centre around the idea that coin values will always move in "rhythms" or predictable patterns, and that coins which drop in price will eventually rise again.
However I have bought into numerous coins in the past (FTC, DOGE, loads of others which I can't remember) which effectively nosedived after an initial pump, and then never recovered - simply sitting at a few Satoshi in value.
Sorry if I have misunderstood, but if that is the case - please explain - what is the secret to ensuring you always buy at the absolute bottom?

There are no regulations against people who buy low and then sell high, even in the traditional markets

High Frequency traders manipulate prices not just by front running, but by controlling the sell orders and undercutting everything and everyone in their path. They manipulate volume with matched orders and the whole 9 none of this is illegal though believe it or not

if you were an institutional trader this would actually be part of your training

you will be literally taught how to manipulate prices

HFT guys aren't "the big boys" there are thousands of mom and pop high frequency trading firms out there that spend the whole day rigging the penny stock market

the only purpose of a High frequency firm is to manipulate prices for their own benefit and they never get penalized for it because there aren't any rules against it

so i doubt we will see any changes in this market especially not with altcoins that anyone can freely create

it surely is interesting but as you said yourself most info of coins posted here means the group already pumped or at least already accumulate. doesnt mean you can make profit with it but it is something you have to keep in mind.

the information is good

but it's mainly for "fast money" types who think life is an easy ride

the same jerks who would laugh at me and you for trying to trade "honestly"

Hi, totally new to this thread. Done some altcoin trading in the past with mixed success. Always interested in new ideas.
Can anyone confirm whether or not you can profit just by following the suggestions in the OP and the Twitter feed?

I tried doing that before following other pump/dumpers, a year or so back - never had much luck - pretty quickly I worked out that the Twitter account and public forum posts made by the group leaders were generally just to get people to buy in, at the point that the dump was starting. Guaranteeing a stream of suckers to buy up coins at their peak value from the pumpers, in other words.
Is that the same thing that's going on here, or is genuinely profitable advice on offer?

I've looked at some of the OP's site and it looks fairly interesting.

There are many forms of manipulation but also the ones you mention dont always work (binck bank for example just get caught doing that), but indeed i get your point.

You don't understand regulation of the traditional markets.. Regulation lets the giants manipulate and the little guy go to jail. TPTB, with their high-frequency trading algorithms that are on computers right at the exchanges, have a hard-wired pipe to the market and can do trades in milliseconds. That is enough time to front run the markets. They can dictate the price on anything at will. They make their money whether price is up or down. Then the political establishment writes laws that allow them to do insider trading, which if you or I did it, we would go to jail. That is how crony-capitalism works in the USA.

These guys here are just low-level thugs and if the big players move into crypto these guys will be rounded up and sent to crowbar hotel. This thread is shilled to death. Look at all of the accounts pimping this service. They rarely, if ever, post in any other thread.


To them I say: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fTAXVr8N40

Lol yeah... That's what even I caught in his words, that in his case, trading itself is manipulation... The only words that influenced me a lot were: "When you don't know how to involve in a manipulated market and profit from it, be the manipulator"...

Nah, he's just a decent writer, nothing technical in there.
Also, if anyone is curious this is his twitter description:
"Manipulation is an art, and the Bittrex charts are my canvas. Follow me if you're only in it for the money..."

^^manipulation, not trading

admittedly its probably one of the best explanations ive seen tbh

i wish ryan would do more of this

increase the libertarian vibe and give back to the community

that i can appreciate

lol you're just using a very long explanation to say "buy low and sell high.." - just keep manipulating it's fine

Hey there,

the fact that you picked up on there always being "something to buy, and something to sell" shows that you have a grasp on the correct method of trading the crypto currency markets.

If you don't mind, I'm going to go a little further into that before I touch on your question

I have mentioned many times in the past that the word "trader" is not a term that is exclusive to the financial markets.

... This is a very important factor, and one that reveals how simple it is to be on the right side of the market.

You see, there are used car 'traders', luxury watch 'traders', electronics 'traders', supermarket 'traders', black market 'traders', e-commerce 'traders', retail 'traders' and wholesale 'traders'.

In each of these different fields, there is one common factor that is forever present. Do not take for granted, just like there are novice traders in our own market, there are novice traders in the Sea-Food market, the Restaurant market and every other market in existence.

However, like I previously mentioned, there is one factor that separates the successful trader from the unsuccessful trader, and this factor is the ability to track supply and demand.

For instance

Imagine waking up in the middle of winter. You may have been wanting to go into business for yourself, so you devise a scheme to accumulate money quickly. So, you begin to think to yourself, "it is freezing outside, and we are at the height of winter - I GOT IT! I'm going to go out and purchase 100 fur coats at the 'best price' i can get, so that I can sell them for a profit."

This is a losing proposition, in fact anyone thinking like this has already lost the game.

You see when dealing with commerce, there always exists a small segment of skilled traders

Yes you may wake up at the height of winter and decide to buy and sell 100 fur coats and profit from a slight margin, but who will you buy these coats from?

The most skilled players in that arena will have filled their entire warehouse with fur coats during the height of summer, when demand for thick fur coats is at it's lowest.

Therefore this skilled trader can sell 100 fur coats to you at a 5% discount and still make a 100% profit, whilst you will only be able to resell the coats at a 5% profit - if you're lucky.

This is how the game is played, you have to go counter to the typical trader.


Quite simply, you must grasp the fact that, regardless if there is manipulation or not - coins move in cycles. There is no such thing as a 'dead' coin until it has been removed from the exchange

In fact, if a coin is being labeled as being 'dead' yet it's market is still open for trading - without the threat of it being removed due to low volume - then it is actually being accumulated and prepped for it's next moon shot.

Again, using my above example and what you have said yourself, we are traders, dealers, distributers etc

These same titles are used to reference big retailers like Walmart for example, with that being said, I am going to present you with some images

Imagine walking into your local grocery store in the middle of the day and seeing this




What you are looking at is a bunch of empty shelves, thus - a retailers inability to sell, or produce profit. Why? Because 1. They do not have items for customers to exchange (trade) their money for, 2. they are unable to take advantage of any increase in foot fall (volume) that may occur because, at this point, they are 'out' of the game.




Clearly this ^ is the most optimal situation for a trader... why? Because 1. They have items that their customers want to exchange (trade) their money for, 2. They are able to take advantage of a surge in foot fall (volume) because, at this point, they are 'in' the game.

So, coming back to your question


Yes indeed, trading is a business you are absolutely right, and yes, if you are doing it correctly, your hands must never be empty just like in the above examples.

So to buy into a coin, profit from a pump, and then to forget that coin exists would be like Walmart selling 500,000 porch benches and then failing to re-stock, they would be literally flushing money down the toilet if they did that.

This is why celebrities are ranked in terms of their popularity, because the more popular a celeb is, the wider their audience is - thus, corporations can pay celebrities a small fee (endorsement deal) to reach a 'large' audience, and then make a large profit - (this is a trade)

Popularity is also a major factor in the altcoin markets because, the most popular coins always attract the most volume.

So simply, you must expand your holdings by using your profits to produce more profits... because, if you don't have the right "stock" at the right prices, then clearly, you will never profit

In terms of knowing what to buy, and when - it is simply a case of tracking supply and demand

dude nothing in this market is natural eveything is all smoke and mirrors, when it comes down to it, the only thing that is real is the cold hard cash that you withdraw from the market at the end of each week

everything else is a mirage

bitcoin could be worth $250 today, then $350 tomorrow and then $150 by friday....it's all an illusion bro... it only becomes real when you cash out, even then fiat currency is based on nothing but the word of a few powerful men who smear pigs blood all over their body at the "bohemian grove" every six months

so try not to take things too seriously lol

I understand that and I am not a hater

but as a developer I would prefer that my coin and other peoples coins had the chance to grow naturally

instead of some pumper team using my own hard work to fill their pockets

thats all

thats what pisses me off

that's the thing, you don't have to struggle, no one has to struggle in this market because it is so freaking easy to trade

study ryans teachings and you will be making money before the end of the week

because that is all trading is actually, you have to realize when someone is preparing to manipulate a coin for higher prices and then you have to get in before that rise happens

If you can't get that small caveat right then you will struggle of course

Now where has my black sheep gone?

You are all like little girls apart from him, arguing about who makes the most how you make it, what was you wearing when you pumped it  

You claim to be in ryans so called group but if that was my group i would be ashamed to work along side you guys who are greedy without a shred of humility between you.

PS

I make more money than you  

You too can sign a message from a 500 BTC account so we can all be jelly of your mad trading skillz.

Bingo

that's all that matters in my book, i'm an opportunist not a coin hoarder

Definitely, there are coins that are chugging along sluggishly because they have amassed so much residual sell resistance, new coins don't have that problem, even is they're just p&d coins I personally don't givashit, as long as there is a window for me to profit

The market needs more coins? uhh...