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Quote from: SargeR33 on December 31, 2014, 06:48:39 PM

Thanks for this review. I will put this into effect when selecting my next gen miners. I don't think noise concerns me too much since I run them outdoors but hey the less noise the better.

you are welcome and of course if the noise has no meaning to you it is a good miner.

with ten miners in my home and a pretty happy wife I have to keep noise at least okay.

It took 2 years to show her I make a few bucks doing this with a possible upside of more to come. So letting it sound half way okay is worth it to me.

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Thanks for this review. I will put this into effect when selecting my next gen miners. I don't think noise concerns me too much since I run them outdoors but hey the less noise the better.

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Quote from: Swimmer63 on December 31, 2014, 06:31:32 PM

Can you translate the "S" and "D"
Single connection cable and double connection?

yes so the left board has 1 single and shares 1 double

the right board has 1 single and shares that same double.

four plugs into 1 miner and 3 cables into the psu

the 1 miner pulls about 580 watts across 3 cables about 200 a cable

the load is balance correctly since each board shares the double cable.

@RchGrav that fan is one step below this fan a little less air a little quieter

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191443200211

which sold out in under 6 hours since I posted about it in this thread.

you pick or the one above should work. the one above is gone. hell maybe mix one of each.

I had the 3 pin version of yours it ran at 2800 or 3000 it was okay I did some testing early but it was not a pwm.

It cooled better then the noctua cools. it was noiser then the noctua

it cooled worse then the stock fan. it was quieter then the stock fan.

So if you get the pwm version cheap why not? the worse case is you will need to run the s-5 at 331 or 325 not 350.

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Hi Philip,

Good review so far.. I'm liking it better than I did in the first 24 hours. I guess I was a little annoyed at everyone calling the miner a dud, before you made that proclaimation.. probably because I ordered one.

One thing is for sure, it sounds like its a noisy beast...

#1 Do you know what the stock CFM/RPM, etc is for the 12038 fan which is included.. and what its model number is, or a link to the specsheet?

I may have found a nice, quiet, pretty high cfm fan for a push/pull, or strictly pull configuration which would be sufficient for home mining. Looks like a great combo of watts, cfm, and noise levels. How do you think it would fare on the S5 in terms of achieving proper cooling >1TH/s in terms of environmental requirements, room temp, or anything else you can think of. I'm thinking this may be a nice upgrade for myself or anyone concerned with the sound levels of the miner.

http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/AFB1212HHE-TP02/603-1212-ND/2034815

Delta Fan - AFB1212HHE-TP02
------------------------------------------------------

Voltage	Rated 12VDC
Size / Dimension	Square 120mm L x 120mm H x 38mm W
Air Flow	120.1 CFM (3.40m³/min)
Features	PWM Control; Speed Sensor (Tach)
Noise	44 dB(A)
Power (Watts)	4.80W
RPM	2900 RPM
Termination	4 Wire Leads

------------------------------------------------------

Regards,

Rich

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Can you translate the "S" and "D"
Single connection cable and double connection?

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Quote from: Stratobitz on December 31, 2014, 03:54:20 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on December 31, 2014, 03:44:05 PM

Quote from: Stratobitz on December 31, 2014, 03:36:24 PM

Weve ordered 24 of these, should be here next week.

Phillip, a tremendous thanks for all the insight and noise fixes. Much appreciated.

Im assuming yes, but I take it there would be no issues running (2) of these off a single EVGA 1300G2 PSU?

Were adding this to our S3+ Farm, and we have a bunch of extra 1300s we'd like to put to use.

Next week, 80 T/Hash up and running!

Strato

you can but the cables need to placed correctly .

Hey Phillip,

Could you elaborate a bit? Obviously we would run 4 x cables to each unit, and the split pairs running I assume to the same side of a single miner?

Just want to make sure we dont burn the server room down. Wink

Strato

   ^         ^
S S       S S
D----D          D--------D
   ^       ^
fan       fan

Ant S-5 (1)     Ant S-5 (2)




    evga 1300 g2

this method above should result in the exact same draw for each board

each board on the 2 units gets 1 single cable

each unit splits a dual on two boards. if you clock at 350 and pull 1200 watts each of the six cables pull 200 watts.

below is wrong

  ^         ^
S D        S D
S D       S D
  ^           ^
fan        fan
Ant s-5 (1) Ant s-5 (2)


evga 1300g2

^
^

Wrong wrong wrong

this wiring allows the left board of each miner pull say 300 watts on 2 single cables = 150 watts a cable----okay

this wiring allows the right board of each miner to pull say 300 watts on 1 double cable = I melted my evga 1300 g2 why oh why did I do this?

A suggestion set each miner at freq 275 if you wire two to your evga 1300 g2 feel all six cables after 5 minutes they should all feel the same.

bump to 287 feel all six cables after 5 minute they should all feel the same ----cool to warm

bump to 300 feel all six cables after 5 miuntes they " " " ' ' '

do it till 325 or 331.

maybe you can go up to 356

the evga 1300 g2 can do 3 s-3's at 231 or 462 hash at about 1208 watts at the kwatt meter. you are pulling about 200 watts each cable . i have done that for months at a time.

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Quote from: Stratobitz on December 31, 2014, 04:26:40 PM

Quote from: klondike_bar on December 31, 2014, 04:06:57 PM

Quote from: Stratobitz on December 31, 2014, 03:54:20 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on December 31, 2014, 03:44:05 PM

Quote from: Stratobitz on December 31, 2014, 03:36:24 PM

Weve ordered 24 of these, should be here next week.

Phillip, a tremendous thanks for all the insight and noise fixes. Much appreciated.

Im assuming yes, but I take it there would be no issues running (2) of these off a single EVGA 1300G2 PSU?

Were adding this to our S3+ Farm, and we have a bunch of extra 1300s we'd like to put to use.

Next week, 80 T/Hash up and running!

Strato

you can but the cables need to placed correctly .

Hey Phillip,

Could you elaborate a bit? Obviously we would run 4 x cables to each unit, and the split pairs running I assume to the same side of a single miner?

Just want to make sure we dont burn the server room down. Wink

Strato

The 1300 would get pretty maxed out by any overclocking, but I can do 375MHz on a CS650M, which is a 612W rail. If your PSU doesnt have 8 discinct wires, be careful with how much load goes down a single wire. a 2-headed cable might get hot if it powers a single board (280-300W draw). using a 16awg or better splitter is likely better than using only 1 socket on a blade as it distributes the input amperage better.

Good point indeed.

Would running our server room a few degrees cooler make a big difference? We keep it at 65 F. I could bump it down to 62 or 61.

Also, wondering if anyone has given thought to putting together a blower / dryer exhaust hose system.

You can get a single industrial blower rated at 4000+ CFM, MacGyver a distro umbilical with 3" Dryer Hoses, which are super cheap, and easilly run 10x outputs off the blower giving each miner 400 CFM airflow. Using 1 large 18" air tube, you could place your blower away from your miners, or even outside if air temps are cold.

Just a thought!

Strato

I am not sure that it would matter. I put my first S5 in front of a max airflow from Vornado fan (they are quite powerful)-and it did not cause much improvement in fan speed (still ~3.5 thou rpm even at setting 325). In the same conditions, S1 fan typically powered down to 1600-1800 rpm.

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Quote from: klondike_bar on December 31, 2014, 04:06:57 PM

Quote from: Stratobitz on December 31, 2014, 03:54:20 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on December 31, 2014, 03:44:05 PM

Quote from: Stratobitz on December 31, 2014, 03:36:24 PM

Weve ordered 24 of these, should be here next week.

Phillip, a tremendous thanks for all the insight and noise fixes. Much appreciated.

Im assuming yes, but I take it there would be no issues running (2) of these off a single EVGA 1300G2 PSU?

Were adding this to our S3+ Farm, and we have a bunch of extra 1300s we'd like to put to use.

Next week, 80 T/Hash up and running!

Strato

you can but the cables need to placed correctly .

Hey Phillip,

Could you elaborate a bit? Obviously we would run 4 x cables to each unit, and the split pairs running I assume to the same side of a single miner?

Just want to make sure we dont burn the server room down. Wink

Strato

The 1300 would get pretty maxed out by any overclocking, but I can do 375MHz on a CS650M, which is a 612W rail. If your PSU doesnt have 8 discinct wires, be careful with how much load goes down a single wire. a 2-headed cable might get hot if it powers a single board (280-300W draw). using a 16awg or better splitter is likely better than using only 1 socket on a blade as it distributes the input amperage better.

Good point indeed.

Would running our server room a few degrees cooler make a big difference? We keep it at 65 F. I could bump it down to 62 or 61.

Also, wondering if anyone has given thought to putting together a blower / dryer exhaust hose system.

You can get a single industrial blower rated at 4000+ CFM, MacGyver a distro umbilical with 3" Dryer Hoses, which are super cheap, and easilly run 10x outputs off the blower giving each miner 400 CFM airflow. Using 1 large 18" air tube, you could place your blower away from your miners, or even outside if air temps are cold.

Just a thought!

Strato

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Quote from: Stratobitz on December 31, 2014, 03:54:20 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on December 31, 2014, 03:44:05 PM

Quote from: Stratobitz on December 31, 2014, 03:36:24 PM

Weve ordered 24 of these, should be here next week.

Phillip, a tremendous thanks for all the insight and noise fixes. Much appreciated.

Im assuming yes, but I take it there would be no issues running (2) of these off a single EVGA 1300G2 PSU?

Were adding this to our S3+ Farm, and we have a bunch of extra 1300s we'd like to put to use.

Next week, 80 T/Hash up and running!

Strato

you can but the cables need to placed correctly .

Hey Phillip,

Could you elaborate a bit? Obviously we would run 4 x cables to each unit, and the split pairs running I assume to the same side of a single miner?

Just want to make sure we dont burn the server room down. Wink

Strato

The 1300 would get pretty maxed out by any overclocking, but I can do 375MHz on a CS650M, which is a 612W rail. If your PSU doesnt have 8 discinct wires, be careful with how much load goes down a single wire. a 2-headed cable might get hot if it powers a single board (280-300W draw). using a 16awg or better splitter is likely better than using only 1 socket on a blade as it distributes the input amperage better.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on December 31, 2014, 03:44:05 PM

Quote from: Stratobitz on December 31, 2014, 03:36:24 PM

Weve ordered 24 of these, should be here next week.

Phillip, a tremendous thanks for all the insight and noise fixes. Much appreciated.

Im assuming yes, but I take it there would be no issues running (2) of these off a single EVGA 1300G2 PSU?

Were adding this to our S3+ Farm, and we have a bunch of extra 1300s we'd like to put to use.

Next week, 80 T/Hash up and running!

Strato

you can but the cables need to placed correctly .

Hey Phillip,

Could you elaborate a bit? Obviously we would run 4 x cables to each unit, and the split pairs running I assume to the same side of a single miner?

Just want to make sure we dont burn the server room down. Wink

Strato

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Quote from: Stratobitz on December 31, 2014, 03:36:24 PM

Weve ordered 24 of these, should be here next week.

Phillip, a tremendous thanks for all the insight and noise fixes. Much appreciated.

Im assuming yes, but I take it there would be no issues running (2) of these off a single EVGA 1300G2 PSU?

Were adding this to our S3+ Farm, and we have a bunch of extra 1300s we'd like to put to use.

Next week, 80 T/Hash up and running!

Strato

you can but the cables need to placed correctly .

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Weve ordered 24 of these, should be here next week.

Phillip, a tremendous thanks for all the insight and noise fixes. Much appreciated.

Im assuming yes, but I take it there would be no issues running (2) of these off a single EVGA 1300G2 PSU?

Were adding this to our S3+ Farm, and we have a bunch of extra 1300s we'd like to put to use.

Next week, 80 T/Hash up and running!

Strato

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With the noctua + silverstone cooling is a little better then 2 silverstones.

I now have the gear running at freq 381 hashing at 1251 power is 621 watts or .496 watts a gh sound is decent.

I opened a bedroom window to let in some cooler air.

the 381 freq stat are below

they are pretty good….

now if the cheaper delta's from here:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191443200211?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

do the trick sound and cooling wise. I hope they cool better then the noctua/silverstone's cool. I hope the sound is decent.

I would then rate the s-5 tied with the sp20

my ratings now are made with:

2 s-5's shipped to my home for 900 + 74 to mod fans = 974-----note the fans I picked went up to 74 for two machines.

hmmm I wonder if amazon reads this ?

2 sp20's shipped to my home for 1000 + 0 no mod = 1000 .

this would change if the price of the fan mod was dropped to 32 not 74 . making 2 cost 932 not 974

any way you look at this it is very close and your setup in home will matter.

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Quote from: CryptoVzla on December 31, 2014, 02:48:00 PM

Quote from: klondike_bar on December 31, 2014, 02:16:27 PM

Quote from: CryptoVzla on December 31, 2014, 01:34:05 PM

Hi i'm new on this. I have a real interest to bring a couple of S5 home but i have a concern about the no íes issue. I have read the thread and see that it's possible to reduce the noise lowering the fan volts or changing the fan but i don't now so much about cooling systems.

So can i get any recomendation? I plan to put it in my living room and i my home temp is about 20c whole year, Thank you!

The PWM configuration of the S5 is not good for home use, but if you have a molex-3/4pin adapter that can provide 5V or 7V, it becomes managable.
The SP20 is a similar volume when set to similar specs, but has room to run much faster if you are okay with noise, or slower if you want better efficiency.

Its a close call, and I think the deciding factor is price. AT $500 w/ shipping the SP20 groupbuy is a better deal, but the 3/$1900 pack (~$630 each) loses to the S5.

Thanks for your answer! I have read your review of the Sp20 and definitely it's a close call. I can find an adapter, so i an try that.

In matter of prices the best option it's the sp20 group@500$ each w/free shipping but its no longer available. So my i'll see my chances with S5. It cost about 510$ w/shipping to my country.

I'll Keep looking for mod, i think that 60 dB it's fine for me.

See if you can find this fan in your country

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delta-AFB1212SHE-Computer-Case-Power-Fan-120X120mm-Lot-of-5-/191443200211?pt=US_Computer_Case_Fans&hash=item2c92e768d3

note it is a four pin pwm model. I mentioned this sale a few post back right here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9994638

and the seller is really selling them quickly here on usa ebay.

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Quote from: klondike_bar on December 31, 2014, 02:16:27 PM

Quote from: CryptoVzla on December 31, 2014, 01:34:05 PM

Hi i'm new on this. I have a real interest to bring a couple of S5 home but i have a concern about the no íes issue. I have read the thread and see that it's possible to reduce the noise lowering the fan volts or changing the fan but i don't now so much about cooling systems.

So can i get any recomendation? I plan to put it in my living room and i my home temp is about 20c whole year, Thank you!

The PWM configuration of the S5 is not good for home use, but if you have a molex-3/4pin adapter that can provide 5V or 7V, it becomes managable.
The SP20 is a similar volume when set to similar specs, but has room to run much faster if you are okay with noise, or slower if you want better efficiency.

Its a close call, and I think the deciding factor is price. AT $500 w/ shipping the SP20 groupbuy is a better deal, but the 3/$1900 pack (~$630 each) loses to the S5.

Thanks for your answer! I have read your review of the Sp20 and definitely it's a close call. I can find an adapter, so i an try that.

In matter of prices the best option it's the sp20 group@500$ each w/free shipping but its no longer available. So my i'll see my chances with S5. It cost about 510$ w/shipping to my country.

I'll Keep looking for mod, i think that 60 dB it's fine for me.

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Quote from: CryptoVzla on December 31, 2014, 01:34:05 PM

Hi i'm new on this. I have a real interest to bring a couple of S5 home but i have a concern about the no íes issue. I have read the thread and see that it's possible to reduce the noise lowering the fan volts or changing the fan but i don't now so much about cooling systems.

So can i get any recomendation? I plan to put it in my living room and i my home temp is about 20c whole year, Thank you!

The PWM configuration of the S5 is not good for home use, but if you have a molex-3/4pin adapter that can provide 5V or 7V, it becomes managable.
The SP20 is a similar volume when set to similar specs, but has room to run much faster if you are okay with noise, or slower if you want better efficiency.

Its a close call, and I think the deciding factor is price. AT $500 w/ shipping the SP20 groupbuy is a better deal, but the 3/$1900 pack (~$630 each) loses to the S5.

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no wars over the gear please.

be nice to one another.

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Quote from: Swimmer63 on December 31, 2014, 02:04:50 PM

Quote from: dogie on December 31, 2014, 03:38:20 AM

Quote from: pak13 on December 31, 2014, 03:07:36 AM

It sounds as though Bitmain and the s5 followed AM's one fan option to dump a lot of heat. We know that didn't work out too well long term.

Personally I think the Tube was a great, great layout to remove 900W with 1 fan. And that was coming from the Cube which again, raised the bar of what you can do with a silent 120mm fan (350W).

Not professional. Can't get paid to represent a supplier and dabble in forum skirmishes without losing some credibility. Unbecoming.

Just fixing the quote train so the quotes match the people. Continue.

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Quote from: dogie on December 31, 2014, 03:38:20 AM

Quote from: pak13 on December 31, 2014, 03:07:36 AM

Quote from: mavericklm on December 29, 2014, 04:53:41 PM

It sounds as though Bitmain and the s5 followed AM's one fan option to dump a lot of heat. We know that didn't work out too well long term.

Personally I think the Tube was a great, great layout to remove 900W with 1 fan. And that was coming from the Cube which again, raised the bar of what you can do with a silent 120mm fan (350W).

Not professional. Can't get paid to represent a supplier and dabble in forum skirmishes without losing some credibility. Unbecoming.

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Hi i'm new on this. I have a real interest to bring a couple of S5 home but i have a concern about the no íes issue. I have read the thread and see that it's possible to reduce the noise lowering the fan volts or changing the fan but i don't now so much about cooling systems.

So can i get any recomendation? I plan to put it in my living room and i my home temp is about 20c whole year, Thank you!

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