Topic: S-5 review. It has arrived some info is in! - page 12. (Read 19803 times)
If anyone's interested in really pushing it, I have a pile of these TFC1212DE 250CFM monsters (or their Nidec equivalents), along with a bunch of the 25mm deep 150CFM FFB1212SH Deltas that I don't need anymore. Not all have the 4pin ends.
back to fan tests I got the expensive noctua 3000 rpm pwm fan
it is now the push fan
noctua push :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KFCRATC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
silverstone pull:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
btw the way both noctua and silverstone prices went up on amazon.
this is now more then 24 + 24 = 48 dollar mod. there are better fan choices price-wise.
Just put it in and all sound problems are gone.
it is now the push fan
noctua push :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KFCRATC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
silverstone pull:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
btw the way both noctua and silverstone prices went up on amazon.
this is now more then 24 + 24 = 48 dollar mod. there are better fan choices price-wise.
Just put it in and all sound problems are gone.
previous price silverstone (16.99) is on backorder. Do you rec any other fan , especially for pull?
I found a really good deal on ebay five minutes ago.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delta-AFB1212SHE-Computer-Case-Power-Fan-120X120mm-Lot-of-5-/191443200211?pt=US_Computer_Case_Fans&hash=item2c92e768d3
5 fans for 29 + 12 = 41 bucks they are pwm meaning 4 pin speed control direct plug into the s-5
2 of these would be nice for an s-5.
I just ordered 1 set of 5 fans.
how silent/noisy are these: more or less same as noctua and silverstone? i thought that you used one delta before?
I used a 3 pin fixed speed delta which was about 148cfm ran at 2800 to 3000 rpm it was a decent fan purchased form the same ebay seller months ago. it was louder then I liked. these on ebay will ramp up and down if clocked higher or lower at 8 dollars each two of these would be decent. they will cool as well or better then the silverstone or the noctua will cool. they will be not as quiet as the silverstone/noctua
they will be much quieter then the stock fan. since I order them from the west coast and I am on the east coast . I may get them for monday.
I purchased them to help buyers find the best fan compromise ... at 8 bucks each 2 for 16 just clip a tiny piece on the fan connector and they will plug right in.
I think a lot of people would like this better then the stock fan. and at 16 bucks an s-5 pretty cheap much cheaper then 2 silverstones or 2 noctua's
thanks, much appreciated. in the end, I ordered this set and two noctuas, which have a very fast shipment using prime (will be here on Fri).
silversones were either backordered or shipping mid next week, so I cancelled those.
back to fan tests I got the expensive noctua 3000 rpm pwm fan
it is now the push fan
noctua push :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KFCRATC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
silverstone pull:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
btw the way both noctua and silverstone prices went up on amazon.
this is now more then 24 + 24 = 48 dollar mod. there are better fan choices price-wise.
Just put it in and all sound problems are gone.
it is now the push fan
noctua push :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KFCRATC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
silverstone pull:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
btw the way both noctua and silverstone prices went up on amazon.
this is now more then 24 + 24 = 48 dollar mod. there are better fan choices price-wise.
Just put it in and all sound problems are gone.
previous price silverstone (16.99) is on backorder. Do you rec any other fan , especially for pull?
I found a really good deal on ebay five minutes ago.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delta-AFB1212SHE-Computer-Case-Power-Fan-120X120mm-Lot-of-5-/191443200211?pt=US_Computer_Case_Fans&hash=item2c92e768d3
5 fans for 29 + 12 = 41 bucks they are pwm meaning 4 pin speed control direct plug into the s-5
2 of these would be nice for an s-5.
I just ordered 1 set of 5 fans.
how silent/noisy are these: more or less same as noctua and silverstone? i thought that you used one delta before?
I used a 3 pin fixed speed delta which was about 148cfm ran at 2800 to 3000 rpm it was a decent fan purchased form the same ebay seller months ago. it was louder then I liked. these on ebay will ramp up and down if clocked higher or lower at 8 dollars each two of these would be decent. they will cool as well or better then the silverstone or the noctua will cool. they will be not as quiet as the silverstone/noctua
they will be much quieter then the stock fan. since I order them from the west coast and I am on the east coast . I may get them for monday.
I purchased them to help buyers find the best fan compromise ... at 8 bucks each 2 for 16 just clip a tiny piece on the fan connector and they will plug right in.
I think a lot of people would like this better then the stock fan. and at 16 bucks an s-5 pretty cheap much cheaper then 2 silverstones or 2 noctua's.
klondike_bar's idea of a fixed speed to the stock fan is a possible work around.
try running the included fan at 5V without PWM. The noise is managable (slightly louder than s3, but about 30% of the 12V volume), and the board temperatures should be about 54C in cold air or 63C in a warm room. Its still not something for a living room, but a basement or spare bedroom would likely contain the majority of noise
How would this be done? Direct to +5 on PSU?
yup, feed 5V to the red wire, GND to the black. Even a 7V adapter (yellow and red wires from PSU) helps a lot to drop noise. ideally you should get it as slow as possible while achieving <62C
Keep in mind those ones are the 150CFM version, not the 240CFM AFB1212GHE. It is a good price though, especially for one ready to go with long leads and the 0.1" 4 pin connector.
back to fan tests I got the expensive noctua 3000 rpm pwm fan
it is now the push fan
noctua push :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KFCRATC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
silverstone pull:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
btw the way both noctua and silverstone prices went up on amazon.
this is now more then 24 + 24 = 48 dollar mod. there are better fan choices price-wise.
Just put it in and all sound problems are gone.
it is now the push fan
noctua push :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KFCRATC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
silverstone pull:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
btw the way both noctua and silverstone prices went up on amazon.
this is now more then 24 + 24 = 48 dollar mod. there are better fan choices price-wise.
Just put it in and all sound problems are gone.
previous price silverstone (16.99) is on backorder. Do you rec any other fan , especially for pull?
I found a really good deal on ebay five minutes ago.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delta-AFB1212SHE-Computer-Case-Power-Fan-120X120mm-Lot-of-5-/191443200211?pt=US_Computer_Case_Fans&hash=item2c92e768d3
5 fans for 29 + 12 = 41 bucks they are pwm meaning 4 pin speed control direct plug into the s-5
2 of these would be nice for an s-5.
I just ordered 1 set of 5 fans.
how silent/noisy are these: more or less same as noctua and silverstone? i thought that you used one delta before?
back to fan tests I got the expensive noctua 3000 rpm pwm fan
it is now the push fan
noctua push :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KFCRATC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
silverstone pull:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
btw the way both noctua and silverstone prices went up on amazon.
this is now more then 24 + 24 = 48 dollar mod. there are better fan choices price-wise.
Just put it in and all sound problems are gone.
it is now the push fan
noctua push :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KFCRATC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
silverstone pull:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
btw the way both noctua and silverstone prices went up on amazon.
this is now more then 24 + 24 = 48 dollar mod. there are better fan choices price-wise.
Just put it in and all sound problems are gone.
previous price silverstone (16.99) is on backorder. Do you rec any other fan , especially for pull?
I found a really good deal on ebay five minutes ago.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delta-AFB1212SHE-Computer-Case-Power-Fan-120X120mm-Lot-of-5-/191443200211?pt=US_Computer_Case_Fans&hash=item2c92e768d3
5 fans for 29 + 12 = 41 bucks they are pwm meaning 4 pin speed control direct plug into the s-5
2 of these would be nice for an s-5.
I just ordered 1 set of 5 fans.
back to fan tests I got the expensive noctua 3000 rpm pwm fan
it is now the push fan
noctua push :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KFCRATC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
silverstone pull:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
btw the way both noctua and silverstone prices went up on amazon.
this is now more then 24 + 24 = 48 dollar mod. there are better fan choices price-wise.
Just put it in and all sound problems are gone.
it is now the push fan
noctua push :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KFCRATC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
silverstone pull:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
btw the way both noctua and silverstone prices went up on amazon.
this is now more then 24 + 24 = 48 dollar mod. there are better fan choices price-wise.
Just put it in and all sound problems are gone.
previous price silverstone (16.99) is on backorder. Do you rec any other fan , especially for pull?
back to fan tests I got the expensive noctua 3000 rpm pwm fan
it is now the push fan
noctua push :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KFCRATC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
silverstone pull:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
btw the way both noctua and silverstone prices went up on amazon.
this is now more then 24 + 24 = 48 dollar mod. there are better fan choices price-wise.
Just put it in and all sound problems are gone.
it is now the push fan
noctua push :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KFCRATC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
silverstone pull:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
btw the way both noctua and silverstone prices went up on amazon.
this is now more then 24 + 24 = 48 dollar mod. there are better fan choices price-wise.
Just put it in and all sound problems are gone.
If you stack them on their side, do they slide around a bit? I was thinking of using some of these in between them (from the gpu rig days): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004YOHP/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
4 small pieces of this would work well. small like ½ by ½ inch or maybe ¾ by ¾ inch
http://www.amazon.com/3M-Scotch-Mounting-5-Inch-75-Inch/dp/B00004Z498/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420034507&sr=8-1&keywords=double+sided+foam+tape
You could do 3 high by 2 wide. 3 sets of wires all face out on the left for access 3 sets of wire face out on the right for access
Good idea, thanks!
I use this tool also cheap I prefer the 'stiff' blade not the flexible blade http://www.amazon.com/Stanley-28-140-4-Inch-Nylon-Handle/dp/B000NNK8DI/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1420042603&sr=8-5&keywords=putty+knife
try running the included fan at 5V without PWM. The noise is managable (slightly louder than s3, but about 30% of the 12V volume), and the board temperatures should be about 54C in cold air or 63C in a warm room. Its still not something for a living room, but a basement or spare bedroom would likely contain the majority of noise
How would this be done? Direct to +5 on PSU?
If you stack them on their side, do they slide around a bit? I was thinking of using some of these in between them (from the gpu rig days): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004YOHP/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
4 small pieces of this would work well. small like ½ by ½ inch or maybe ¾ by ¾ inch
http://www.amazon.com/3M-Scotch-Mounting-5-Inch-75-Inch/dp/B00004Z498/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420034507&sr=8-1&keywords=double+sided+foam+tape
You could do 3 high by 2 wide. 3 sets of wires all face out on the left for access 3 sets of wire face out on the right for access
Good idea, thanks!
If you stack them on their side, do they slide around a bit? I was thinking of using some of these in between them (from the gpu rig days): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004YOHP/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
4 small pieces of this would work well. small like ½ by ½ inch or maybe ¾ by ¾ inch
http://www.amazon.com/3M-Scotch-Mounting-5-Inch-75-Inch/dp/B00004Z498/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420034507&sr=8-1&keywords=double+sided+foam+tape
You could do 3 high by 2 wide. 3 sets of wires all face out on the left for access 3 sets of wire face out on the right for access
If you stack them on their side, do they slide around a bit? I was thinking of using some of these in between them (from the gpu rig days): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004YOHP/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
it's the same format as s1, s3, sp20.... the more power it consumes the more ventilation it needs, resulting in higher decibels 
anything can be made to run silent, it only depends on your skill and the money available
anything can be made to run silent, it only depends on your skill and the money available
Firstly, Kudos on a great post Philip!
The form factor, the power cables still enter from the now open top. Ether on the end. With plastic sides, this makes, the form factor is rather different. Almost impossible to stack the s5's?
The SP20 has the edge here, fully enclosed and easily stackable with cables all on one end.
It sounds as though Bitmain and the s5 followed AM's one fan option to dump a lot of heat. We know that didn't work out too well long term.
With the small price difference, lets be honest, I'd prefer something that is a Ferrari, over a plastic sided heater.
An afterthought, cooling is easier also on a large scale with stackable single end entry.
s5 has two things going for it:
1) it can operate at 0.5w/GH and up to 1300GH+ on 12V, whereas the SP20 is using closer to 0.6W/gh (or about 150W more) to achieve similar speeds
2) it should be cheaper to produce - if so it might be a viable farm option and a better fan control system would allow home use.
you could stack these the same way as with the S1 or s3 - I often made 3x2 stacks with the units on thier sides and the bottoms of the units against each other or a flat surface.
the s-1 was not easy to stack the s-3 was easy. I have stacked s-3's 4 high on the sturdy metal sides. The s-1 you could stack two high but you then needed to make sure they were held by something.
Frankly I still like this s-5. I would buy more if I did not have 9 sp20's. At 2 sp20's for 1000 usd vs 2 s-5's for 900 > I would pick up sp20's. But that's just me.
If the s-5 were 2 for 800 shipped They would clearly be a better deal as of now I give the sp20's a small edge.
I can not get my unit to do more then 1200 gh -----------may be due to the fan mods may not. s-3 batch 1 had low performers and high performers.
Two other reviewers got to 1300gh if my s-5 went to 1300gh and used .5 watts I would rate it better.
it's the same format as s1, s3, sp20.... the more power it consumes the more ventilation it needs, resulting in higher decibels
anything can be made to run silent, it only depends on your skill and the money available
anything can be made to run silent, it only depends on your skill and the money available
Firstly, Kudos on a great post Philip!
The form factor, the power cables still enter from the now open top. Ether on the end. With plastic sides, this makes, the form factor is rather different. Almost impossible to stack the s5's?
The SP20 has the edge here, fully enclosed and easily stackable with cables all on one end.
It sounds as though Bitmain and the s5 followed AM's one fan option to dump a lot of heat. We know that didn't work out too well long term.
With the small price difference, lets be honest, I'd prefer something that is a Ferrari, over a plastic sided heater.
An afterthought, cooling is easier also on a large scale with stackable single end entry.
s5 has two things going for it:
1) it can operate at 0.5w/GH and up to 1300GH+ on 12V, whereas the SP20 is using closer to 0.6W/gh (or about 150W more) to achieve similar speeds
2) it should be cheaper to produce - if so it might be a viable farm option and a better fan control system would allow home use.
you could stack these the same way as with the S1 or s3 - I often made 3x2 stacks with the units on thier sides and the bottoms of the units against each other or a flat surface.
edit your post! i didn't write that!
It sounds as though Bitmain and the s5 followed AM's one fan option to dump a lot of heat. We know that didn't work out too well long term.
Personally I think the Tube was a great, great layout to remove 900W with 1 fan. And that was coming from the Cube which again, raised the bar of what you can do with a silent 120mm fan (350W).
it's the same format as s1, s3, sp20.... the more power it consumes the more ventilation it needs, resulting in higher decibels
anything can be made to run silent, it only depends on your skill and the money available
anything can be made to run silent, it only depends on your skill and the money available
Firstly, Kudos on a great post Philip!
The form factor, the power cables still enter from the now open top. Ether on the end. With plastic sides, this makes, the form factor is rather different. Almost impossible to stack the s5's?
The SP20 has the edge here, fully enclosed and easily stackable with cables all on one end.
It sounds as though Bitmain and the s5 followed AM's one fan option to dump a lot of heat. We know that didn't work out too well long term.
With the small price difference, lets be honest, I'd prefer something that is a Ferrari, over a plastic sided heater.
An afterthought, cooling is easier also on a large scale with stackable single end entry.
try running the included fan at 5V without PWM. The noise is managable (slightly louder than s3, but about 30% of the 12V volume), and the board temperatures should be about 54C in cold air or 63C in a warm room. Its still not something for a living room, but a basement or spare bedroom would likely contain the majority of noise
well that option is no cost. even if it is louder then the 2 silverstone fans you save 34 bucks.
I am running mine at freq 343 I get almost 1149gh.
my unit does not seem to do well for over clock.
I have to say at 343 with the 2 silverstones it is a decent miner and quieter then the sp20.
I am running this overnight at 343 should be good.
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