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Quote from: visdude on January 07, 2015, 10:43:35 PM

Quote from: vilm on January 06, 2015, 03:42:31 AM

Hello there,

I'm from Russia and have ordered 1 x ANTMINER S5 BATCH 4.
Now I need some advice from you ...
I have a new out of the box PSU Fractal Design NEWTON R3 80PLUS® Platinum
http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/power-supplies/newton/newton-r3-600w
and I'll going in anyway to connect it to S5.
Which are the potential minuses I'll get if use the PSU NEWTON R3 with Antminer S5? Please list all if it possible.
Thanks.

At 600W draw at the wall, that'll only give you around 10% headroom. If you're comfy with that (also keeping in mind that it's a Platinum PSU), then that's your call. I'd monitor it very closely for the first few days. Also, make sure that the PCIe cables don't get too hot especially during the hottest ambient temperature that you could possibly have.

I'd get a 750W/800W PSU if it were me though and overclock to heart's content without worrying about power requirement.

Agreed.

I've found the relative differences between certifications to often be pretty much immaterial, often a case of a few percentage points that could be re-claimed elsewhere for less.

Considering the base efficiency of these devices, I would aim for higher capacity over slightly better PSU efficiency at this time, as you said. Also, based on what I know of average electricity rates in Russia, I expect he would benefit from OC as you suggested.

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Quote from: aurel57 on January 08, 2015, 09:25:59 AM

Phil I just seen where Bitmain crossed out the 9V feature on the S% sells thread? I guess this is no longer something for us to look at in the future?

Notes
1. Power consumption figures vary with your PSU’s efficiency, the ambient operating temperature and the accuracy of the power meter.
2. PSU: A power supply unit is not included, and you will need to provide an ATX PSU. There are 4 PCI-e connectors for +12V DC input and all four are required. Do not connect more than one PSU to the same hashing board.
3. When better power efficiency is needed in the future due to higher network difficulties, you may want to buy some special PSUs 9V DC with more than 10A output, which will allow you to have a 0.2J/GH mining efficiency, but at lower hashing speed.

not so according to dogie's thread. dogie said since 9 volt psu's are rare and you kind of need to know what you are doing. they crossed it off.

I must remind everyone I have yet to see any demo on this 9v setup so I AM IN THE THE DARK SO FAR. This is a hoped for solution .

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Apparently when Bitmain revised the initial posting for the S5 for 9V feature, they also struck another part regarding the 1 fan cooling solution, though they didn't fix the entire posting. One part still extolls the virtue of a single fan that keeps the miner "cool and quiet". I think everybody agree the 1 fan keeps it cool, though by most accounts it's quite loud in doing so.

Anybody know if there is a revision to the fans on the S5?

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Phil I just seen where Bitmain crossed out the 9V feature on the S% sells thread? I guess this is no longer something for us to look at in the future?

Notes
1. Power consumption figures vary with your PSU’s efficiency, the ambient operating temperature and the accuracy of the power meter.
2. PSU: A power supply unit is not included, and you will need to provide an ATX PSU. There are 4 PCI-e connectors for +12V DC input and all four are required. Do not connect more than one PSU to the same hashing board.
3. When better power efficiency is needed in the future due to higher network difficulties, you may want to buy some special PSUs 9V DC with more than 10A output, which will allow you to have a 0.2J/GH mining efficiency, but at lower hashing speed.

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Quote from: vilm on January 06, 2015, 03:42:31 AM

Hello there,

I'm from Russia and have ordered 1 x ANTMINER S5 BATCH 4.
Now I need some advice from you ...
I have a new out of the box PSU Fractal Design NEWTON R3 80PLUS® Platinum
http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/power-supplies/newton/newton-r3-600w
and I'll going in anyway to connect it to S5.
Which are the potential minuses I'll get if use the PSU NEWTON R3 with Antminer S5? Please list all if it possible.
Thanks.

At 600W draw at the wall, that'll only give you around 10% headroom. If you're comfy with that (also keeping in mind that it's a Platinum PSU), then that's your call. I'd monitor it very closely for the first few days. Also, make sure that the PCIe cables don't get too hot especially during the hottest ambient temperature that you could possibly have.

I'd get a 750W/800W PSU if it were me though and overclock to heart's content without worrying about power requirement.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on January 07, 2015, 11:48:32 AM

I am working on an undervolting solution.

some info here

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10069844

the hope is it will be ready for testing in 3 weeks.

I would get a unit to review and run an s-5 from the builder. The builder is a forum member and well respected.

it would allow you to plug in an atx psu like the evga 1300 g2 and dial it down from 12 volts to a 11 to 7 volt range. with only a 5% loss of efficency.

if it works maybe 800gh at 240 watts for an s-5 maybe 800 gh at 300 watts for an s-5.

right now the s-5 does 800 gh at 400 watts.

From what I heard from Bitmain, it's as simple as supplying 9V instead of 12V on the PCIe connectors.
9V PSUs are a different issue all together.
... and the 12V to 9V step downs I found were not all that cheap either since you'd need 4 of them.

I suspect this may be appropriate (times 4):
http://www.amazon.com/VvW-Waterproof-Converter-Die-cast-aluminum/dp/B00J6ODYKY

But I'm no hardware guy so someone else would have to make suggestions about what and how.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on January 07, 2015, 08:40:39 PM

Quote from: Zich on January 07, 2015, 08:26:48 PM

Look like there are two unused connector in controller. I wonder is you can use them for another board in case fail controller.

I only had 1 machine but I am almost certain that is possible. I wonder if a 2x s-5 owner has tried to do that.

Will be interesting if it's work

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Quote from: Zich on January 07, 2015, 08:26:48 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on December 28, 2014, 10:08:43 PM

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Look like there are two unused connector in controller. I wonder is you can use them for another board in case fail controller.

I only had 1 machine but I am almost certain that is possible. I wonder if a 2x s-5 owner has tried to do that.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on December 28, 2014, 10:08:43 PM

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Look like there are two unused connector in controller. I wonder is you can use them for another board in case fail controller.

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For those who have a mixed miner set (S5 and SP20): I replaced the stock fan on S5 with Noctua 120mm 3000 PWM, which is quieter and OK for freq 325 at up to 30C ambient (maybe OK for freq 350 if your ambient is colder), but interestingly, Noctua is a little whiny alone, however when I put both S5 with Noctua and SP20 (at setting 20) together, the most annoying frequencies of both seem to cancel each other out and the whole setup (two Sp20 and two S5) "sounds" better. So, maybe Noctua-S5 produce an 'anti-noise" to SP20 noise or vice versa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_noise_control

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Quote from: philipma1957 on January 07, 2015, 11:48:32 AM

I am working on an undervolting solution.

some info here

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10069844

the hope is it will be ready for testing in 3 weeks.

I would get a unit to review and run an s-5 from the builder. The builder is a forum member and well respected.

it would allow you to plug in an atx psu like the evga 1300 g2 and dial it down from 12 volts to a 11 to 7 volt range. with only a 5% loss of efficency.

if it works maybe 800gh at 240 watts for an s-5 maybe 800 gh at 300 watts for an s-5.

right now the s-5 does 800 gh at 400 watts.

Sounds interesting Phil. So far I am happy with my S5 but know the time will come to do some undervolting.

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I am working on an undervolting solution.

some info here

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10069844

the hope is it will be ready for testing in 3 weeks.

I would get a unit to review and run an s-5 from the builder. The builder is a forum member and well respected.

it would allow you to plug in an atx psu like the evga 1300 g2 and dial it down from 12 volts to a 11 to 7 volt range. with only a 5% loss of efficency.

if it works maybe 800gh at 240 watts for an s-5 maybe 800 gh at 300 watts for an s-5.

right now the s-5 does 800 gh at 400 watts.

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My S5 is mining away at a little over 1.1THs on default settings at my pool https://www.kano.is/ working fine

600W at the wall with a Seasonic 1200W Platinum

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Quote from: RchGrav on December 31, 2014, 06:32:55 PM

I may have found a nice, quiet, pretty high cfm fan for a push/pull, or strictly pull configuration which would be sufficient for home mining.

What do you guys think about Scythe DFS123812H-3000 Ultra Kaze 120mm x 38mm Case Fan?

I am planning to order 2 of them for S5. That Delta by RchGrav is OK maybe, but for me here in Russia that Scythe Ultra Kaze 120 mm is quite cheaper.....

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Don't really think the FD PSU will have any issues running at 600W. It should be ok even at 650W

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Quote from: vilm on January 06, 2015, 06:28:40 AM

Quote from: lulu2003 on January 06, 2015, 05:19:29 AM

it will very likely work fine if you underclock the S5 a bit not to exceed the 600w 12v single rail.

Prompt novice how to do it? Let me know instruction or links.
Thx.

plug the pcie cable into in one side not two sides.

plug the ethernet cable into the s-5 and into your router or your ethernet switch.

it should turn on and start to mine in a minute or two.

look for it's address with an ip scanner

angry ip is free

advanced ip scanner is free both for windows.

mac has a free one on the app store ipscanner

once you find the ip sign on to the machine

the sign on is http://192.168.x.xxx the x.xxx you find on the ip scan my s-5 was http://192.168.0.191

once you are on the s-5's GUI

set freq to 300 down from 350 this should be low enough to run both sides of the s-5 with that psu.

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Quote from: lulu2003 on January 06, 2015, 05:19:29 AM

it will very likely work fine if you underclock the S5 a bit not to exceed the 600w 12v single rail.

Prompt novice how to do it? Let me know instruction or links.
Thx.

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it will very likely work fine if you underclock the S5 a bit not to exceed the 600w 12v single rail.

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Hello there,

I'm from Russia and have ordered 1 x ANTMINER S5 BATCH 4.
Now I need some advice from you ...
I have a new out of the box PSU Fractal Design NEWTON R3 80PLUS® Platinum
http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/power-supplies/newton/newton-r3-600w
and I'll going in anyway to connect it to S5.
Which are the potential minuses I'll get if use the PSU NEWTON R3 with Antminer S5? Please list all if it possible.
Thanks.

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what is your power price per khw in NJ?

edit:
off topic

according to http://www.eia.gov/state/rankings/?sid=NJ#series/31
it around 15-16 ct

which means, even with best efficiency on market, you never make some money with it, assuming you had to spend nearly 4500 bucks (plus PSUs) for your units, and difficulty also as BTC/$ stays roughly the same, which it won't.
250 bucks/month profit is maximum if you don't reuse the heat energy. Huh

okay, currently you got nothing if you leave you money on bank account (USD). Tongue

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