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legendary
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Be aware that some 12V fans won't start with 5V, so you want to test that with your particular fan first.

Thanks, good point, but 5V should work on stock fans, since OP already did it.
legendary
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Be aware that some 12V fans won't start with 5V, so you want to test that with your particular fan first.
legendary
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good option. searching tech sites and amazon for things like 3pin molex / 5v fan molex / 4pin 5v fan, etc is a good way. Look for one with multiple 5V and/or 7V connections - ignore 12V since that's worse than the PWM. The above link has 2x5v and 2x12V - no 7V options unless you rewire it a little

In your opinion, will 5V support enough speed of the stock fan if intake is ~26C (78F) at least at 325, maybe 350 mhz setting?

All 7V adapters are expensive on amazon and since 7V is 30% louder than 5V, I am not sure that it will change the sound enough (I will experiment with 2 fans setup anyway, since they are coming already).
I know that you posted/tried 5V at 5C intake, which was OK. There is a cold spell right now, so I can theoretically open windows and close the door in the "mining" room, but I am looking at something more stable.

legendary
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ASIC Wannabe
good option. searching tech sites and amazon for things like 3pin molex / 5v fan molex / 4pin 5v fan, etc is a good way. Look for one with multiple 5V and/or 7V connections - ignore 12V since that's worse than the PWM. The above link has 2x5v and 2x12V - no 7V options unless you rewire it a little
legendary
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You can also look for ones like these (usually come with Noctua fans, warning they can get warm to hot), they're sold out at this link.  http://www.dx.com/p/3-pin-pc-cooling-fan-speed-noise-reduction-cable-5-piece-set-35818#.VKW5W2fwuUk
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rm -rf stupidity
Directron is my fav. stop since it's right by our office.  All my little adapters for fans and such for miners came from there lol.
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legendary
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it moves a ton of air (150 cfm or more)    but runs at 3600 to 3800 rpm.  it is fine in a garage not attached. or I guess use a speed controller on it.

 push noctua is 2700 rpm pull silverstone is 1900 rpm -  not quite cool as I would like. considering I am letting outside air at -5c into the room via the window,  but 381 freq is giving 1250 gh at 621 watts plus powering the 2 fans. Sound is really good. cost is too high 24 + 16 = 40 and it went up  to 24+20 = 44

HW's are decent.  Would I run this setup 24/7/365  yeah if I was running 1 or 2 s-5's   but if I had 20 or 30 no.  I think I am just a bit too hot see below.

>snip image<

One point-stock fan does not move that much air comparing with SP20 at a low 30 setting. The choice of the fan clearly was not right, since the S5 fan even at 325 (hashing at 1070gh) is MUCH louder than the SP20 fan is at setting 30 (hashing at 1360Gh).
Very much looking forward to see how Noctua-Noctua (expensive at ~$48) or Noctua-Delta ($32) fan combos will work.

honestly, just try powering the stock fan at 5V. molex adapters are cheap and you likely have a few lying around if you bought fans in the past. at 5V the fan is about the same volume as the SP20 at 10-20%, and is sufficient to keep the machine cool at stock speeds (as long as its under ~65C, 55-60C is ideal)

not sure how to power stock fans at 5V if I have just regular PSUs.
Edit: saw the picture, care to give a product link-search for molex has >12 pages of products. Thanks.
legendary
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it moves a ton of air (150 cfm or more)    but runs at 3600 to 3800 rpm.  it is fine in a garage not attached. or I guess use a speed controller on it.

 push noctua is 2700 rpm pull silverstone is 1900 rpm -  not quite cool as I would like. considering I am letting outside air at -5c into the room via the window,  but 381 freq is giving 1250 gh at 621 watts plus powering the 2 fans. Sound is really good. cost is too high 24 + 16 = 40 and it went up  to 24+20 = 44

HW's are decent.  Would I run this setup 24/7/365  yeah if I was running 1 or 2 s-5's   but if I had 20 or 30 no.  I think I am just a bit too hot see below.

>snip image<

One point-stock fan does not move that much air comparing with SP20 at a low 30 setting. The choice of the fan clearly was not right, since the S5 fan even at 325 (hashing at 1070gh) is MUCH louder than the SP20 fan is at setting 30 (hashing at 1360Gh).
Very much looking forward to see how Noctua-Noctua (expensive at ~$48) or Noctua-Delta ($32) fan combos will work.

honestly, just try powering the stock fan at 5V. molex adapters are cheap and you likely have a few lying around if you bought fans in the past. at 5V the fan is about the same volume as the SP20 at 10-20%, and is sufficient to keep the machine cool at stock speeds (as long as its under ~65C, 55-60C is ideal)
legendary
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 I am going to lock this thread and lock my sp20 review thread maybe on monday.

I am going to sell this to a forum member that lives a few miles from me along with a sp20.

I am done testing it and will give it to him with the stock fan on the side.

  I will install my delta 3 pin and run that .  it is louder then the noctua - silverstone in use, but it cools better.

I have the 4 pin deltas coming to my house  on monday.

  I will give him a pair and ask him to test them.

I would buy these if I needed miners. (I have 8 sp20's)

I may buy 2 of these in a bit if the price drops.

My home is suited to run 7 to 9 sp20's and 1-3 s-5's.

  If you are an established miner that has used s-1's or s-3's and you want to upgrade I suggest  
2 s-5's and 2 sp20's.  I think that would be 900 for a pair of s-5's shipped to the usa and 1020 for a pair of sp20's shipped to the usa.  

  To bitmaintech thank you for the miner  and it was a pretty good miner,  but better fans would have been smarter for you to do.

532 watts 1073 gh  = .496 per gh

clock at 325
push noctua 2640 rpm  pull silverstone  1800 rpm.--quiet

 a little bit warm.
hw's good

legendary
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it moves a ton of air (150 cfm or more)    but runs at 3600 to 3800 rpm.  it is fine in a garage not attached. or I guess use a speed controller on it.

 push noctua is 2700 rpm pull silverstone is 1900 rpm -  not quite cool as I would like. considering I am letting outside air at -5c into the room via the window,  but 381 freq is giving 1250 gh at 621 watts plus powering the 2 fans. Sound is really good. cost is too high 24 + 16 = 40 and it went up  to 24+20 = 44

HW's are decent.  Would I run this setup 24/7/365  yeah if I was running 1 or 2 s-5's   but if I had 20 or 30 no.  I think I am just a bit too hot see below.

>snip image<

One point-stock fan does not move that much air comparing with SP20 at a low 30 setting. The choice of the fan clearly was not right, since the S5 fan even at 325 (hashing at 1070gh) is MUCH louder than the SP20 fan is at setting 30 (hashing at 1360Gh).
Very much looking forward to see how Noctua-Noctua (expensive at ~$48) or Noctua-Delta ($32) fan combos will work.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
sr. member
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December 31, 2014, 11:58:14 PM
For those looking at aftermarket fans, the Silverstone isn't the only 140mm fan with 120mm fan holes (although it's the only one 38mm thick and probably the best), there are a few others.  Those will move more air at a lower RPM causing less noise.  One thing you may need with some aftermarket fans though that I've learned is that the screws sticking out of the front and back can cause interference with the blades, so something like these can help.  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NODDHLY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Here are a few of the fans I've found.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Q8RLCBU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1  shipped from China so they haven't arrived yet.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0078IWS6Q/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1  white LED and good airflow but not as quiet as others.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B1WQ4VA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 if you happen to need a shorter fan, not high airflow but pretty quiet.  Optional Static Booster:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HRJ550W/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1  which makes it as thick as a typical one so this option isn't really useful.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00G8GUE74/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1  Similar to the Prolimatech above but spins a little faster.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835856013&cm_re=140mm_fan_120mm-_-35-856-013-_-Product  Quiet but not a lot of airflow.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835856015&cm_re=140mm_fan_120mm-_-35-856-015-_-Product  Same as above.

Some of these are right up to the bottom of the network port on AntMiners, so you should use network cables without boots / connector sleeves like these:  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E5I7VJQ/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1  
Or you may have to shave a bit off the fan frame.
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December 31, 2014, 10:46:36 PM
I had a 3000 rpm fixed speed  3 pin delta delta it was between 2800 and 3000 rpm . quieter then the stock and kept the gear cool enough to go to freq 350.  I think it is 148 cfm at 3000 rpm

Any idea on the model number of that fan?  Trying to go by CFM and dBA on spec sheets I'm scouring... and when I start spec hunting I tend to go overboard.

and well... I went a little crazy...

I ordered a ridiculous SAN ACE 120 fan model 9SX1212P1K001.. (available from Mouser, Newark, Element14, Farnell, Arrow and Sager)

Here is a video of an older model Aluminum Sanyo Denki 6000 RPM fan...  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTdD5FXlrsk

The operation range of this fan is 15% PWM which is 2600RPM/88.2CFM @ 37dB to 100% PWM which is 7400RPM/257.7CFM @ 66dB
legendary
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December 31, 2014, 09:23:11 PM
@RchGrav   that fan is one step below this fan a little less air a little quieter


http://www.ebay.com/itm/191443200211


which sold out in under 6 hours since I posted about it in this thread.

you pick or the one above should work.  the one above is gone.  hell maybe mix one of each.

I had the 3 pin version of yours it ran at 2800 or 3000 it was okay  I did some testing early but it was not a pwm.

It cooled better then the noctua cools.  it was noiser then the noctua

it cooled worse then the stock fan.  it was quieter then the stock fan.

So if you get the pwm version cheap why not? the worse case is you will need to run the s-5 at 331 or 325 not 350.

Can you get the numbers on the existing fan by any chance?

Or .. what CFM do you think is actually required by the miner to run at stock frequency under normal environmental conditions?
  I had a 3000 rpm fixed speed  3 pin delta delta it was between 2800 and 3000 rpm . quieter then the stock and kept the gear cool enough to go to freq 350.  I think it is 148 cfm at 3000 rpm
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www.thegeomadao.com
December 31, 2014, 08:02:23 PM
Hi i'm new on this. I have a real interest to bring a couple of S5 home but i have a concern about the no íes issue. I have read the thread and see that it's possible to reduce the noise lowering the fan volts or changing the fan but i don't now so much about cooling systems.

 So can i get any recomendation? I plan to put it in my living room and i my home temp is about 20c whole year, Thank you!

The PWM configuration of the S5 is not good for home use, but if you have a molex-3/4pin adapter that can provide 5V or 7V, it becomes managable.
The SP20 is a similar volume when set to similar specs, but has room to run much faster if you are okay with noise, or slower if you want better efficiency.

Its a close call, and I think the deciding factor is price. AT $500 w/ shipping the SP20 groupbuy is a better deal, but the 3/$1900 pack (~$630 each) loses to the S5.



Thanks for your answer! I have read your review of the Sp20 and definitely it's a close call. I can find an adapter, so i an try that.  

In matter of prices the best option it's the sp20 group@500$ each w/free shipping but its no longer available. So my i'll see my chances with S5. It cost about 510$ w/shipping to my country.

I'll Keep looking for mod, i think that 60 dB it's fine for me.

See if you can find this fan in your country

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delta-AFB1212SHE-Computer-Case-Power-Fan-120X120mm-Lot-of-5-/191443200211?pt=US_Computer_Case_Fans&hash=item2c92e768d3

note it is a four pin pwm model.  I mentioned this  sale  a few post back right here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9994638



and the seller is really  selling them quickly here on usa ebay.

  Thank you! I'll take a look. Maybe i can find something similar Here. 
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December 31, 2014, 07:44:53 PM
@RchGrav   that fan is one step below this fan a little less air a little quieter


http://www.ebay.com/itm/191443200211


which sold out in under 6 hours since I posted about it in this thread.

you pick or the one above should work.  the one above is gone.  hell maybe mix one of each.

I had the 3 pin version of yours it ran at 2800 or 3000 it was okay  I did some testing early but it was not a pwm.

It cooled better then the noctua cools.  it was noiser then the noctua

it cooled worse then the stock fan.  it was quieter then the stock fan.

So if you get the pwm version cheap why not? the worse case is you will need to run the s-5 at 331 or 325 not 350.

Can you get the numbers on the existing fan by any chance?

Or .. what CFM do you think is actually required by the miner to run at stock frequency under normal environmental conditions?
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Using some expensive heaters
December 31, 2014, 07:29:45 PM
Thanks for this review. I will put this into effect when selecting my next gen miners. I don't think noise concerns me too much since I run them outdoors but hey the less noise the better.

you are welcome and of course if the noise has no meaning  to you it is a good miner.

 with ten miners in my home and a pretty happy wife  I have to keep noise at least okay.

It took 2 years to show her I make a few bucks doing this with a possible upside of more to come.  So letting it sound half way okay is worth it to me.

Heh, lol. Whipped...  Cheesy

Wish I was whipped... Undecided
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