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legendary
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What is the hash rate, and is noise really so loud?
No. Noise is quiet.
sr. member
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What is the hash rate, and is noise really so loud?
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'

It was a few pages back .  Some one was selling 5 deltas for 41 bucks.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/191443200211?

4 pin pwm's


he now has sets of 2 for 15 + 5 = 20 dollars

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delta-AFB1212SHE-Computer-Case-Power-Fan-120X120mm-Lot-of-2-/191472588964?pt=US_Computer_Case_Fans&hash=item2c94a7d8a4


truly these are really good if you use  2 in a push pull at  5.5-6 volts they are really quiet and allow for  a 990gh quiet miner. freq 300

if you use 7 volts  they are pretty quiet and allow for freq 325-350

at 9.2 volts they are better then the stock fan and allow overclock.

I did not bother setting them as pwm as I want a freq super quiet miner .  I send 5.5 volts to the fans   and I am doing this.:





oke thanks,
What do you think the noise will be with pwm?
I have my s5's now with s3 fans push - pull, but it is still quite loud! I run them @ 350 or 375
I am thinking of replacing them.
the delta's on ebay are better then the s-3 fans but only by a little.

Remember a s-5 at freq is close to 600 watts. at freq 375 it is over 600 watts.

They are a bit better then the s-3 fans.  Somewhere on the forum someone was able to run them pwm. 
sr. member
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It was a few pages back .  Some one was selling 5 deltas for 41 bucks.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/191443200211?

4 pin pwm's


he now has sets of 2 for 15 + 5 = 20 dollars

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delta-AFB1212SHE-Computer-Case-Power-Fan-120X120mm-Lot-of-2-/191472588964?pt=US_Computer_Case_Fans&hash=item2c94a7d8a4


truly these are really good if you use  2 in a push pull at  5.5-6 volts they are really quiet and allow for  a 990gh quiet miner. freq 300

if you use 7 volts  they are pretty quiet and allow for freq 325-350

at 9.2 volts they are better then the stock fan and allow overclock.

I did not bother setting them as pwm as I want a freq super quiet miner .  I send 5.5 volts to the fans   and I am doing this.:





oke thanks,
What do you think the noise will be with pwm?
I have my s5's now with s3 fans push - pull, but it is still quite loud! I run them @ 350 or 375
I am thinking of replacing them.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1004
If anyone in Canada is interested and doesn't want to pay shipping and import charges, I have a bunch of 25mm (WFB1212H - 87CFM 37dBA - no PWM, FFC1212DE - 140dBA 54dBA - PWM) and 38mm (TFC1212DE - 252CFM 66dBA PWM) fans laying around I probably won't use again. I have about a dozen each of the 25mm ones, and I think about 20 of the 38mm Deltas (or their Nidec equivalent) though some of the 38mm ones don't have 0.1" headers on yet.

yeah these s-5's with a pair of your delta's the ffc1212de   the 140 cfm  

 I think are nice gear.
I bolded your quote  as It may be a typo.



WHAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

TYPO?
legendary
Activity: 4256
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'The right to privacy matters'
If anyone in Canada is interested and doesn't want to pay shipping and import charges, I have a bunch of 25mm (WFB1212H - 87CFM 37dBA - no PWM, FFC1212DE - 140dBA 54dBA - PWM) and 38mm (TFC1212DE - 252CFM 66dBA PWM) fans laying around I probably won't use again. I have about a dozen each of the 25mm ones, and I think about 20 of the 38mm Deltas (or their Nidec equivalent) though some of the 38mm ones don't have 0.1" headers on yet.

yeah these s-5's with a pair of your delta's the ffc1212de   the 140 cfm  

 I think are nice gear.
I bolded your quote  as It may be a typo.

legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1004
If anyone in Canada is interested and doesn't want to pay shipping and import charges, I have a bunch of 25mm (WFB1212H - 87CFM 37dBA - no PWM, FFC1212DE - 140CFM 54dBA - PWM) and 38mm (TFC1212DE - 252CFM 66dBA PWM) fans laying around I probably won't use again. I have about a dozen each of the 25mm ones, and I think about 20 of the 38mm Deltas (or their Nidec equivalent) though some of the 38mm ones don't have 0.1" headers on yet.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
S1 fan is better than no fan, but S5 fan is a lot more powerful than S1, so you may struggle to keep S5 cold enough...




Ok I finally install everything.
With my setup, I cant run at 350. I run at 275 and get around 875 gh
But the sound is almost 0.

The temps are 63 and 54 is that ok ?

Im also looking to put 2 S1 fan on it but the wire is to short I need to find extender.  Tongue


Totally Understand that! Just want to fine a good way to mine at a good temp with a resonable sound level.
2 S1 fan in push pull should be good ? What is the CFM of the S1 fan ?


Hands down the best is a pair of the delta's from the ebay link.



What link is that?

It was a few pages back .  Some one was selling 5 deltas for 41 bucks.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/191443200211?

4 pin pwm's


he now has sets of 2 for 15 + 5 = 20 dollars

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delta-AFB1212SHE-Computer-Case-Power-Fan-120X120mm-Lot-of-2-/191472588964?pt=US_Computer_Case_Fans&hash=item2c94a7d8a4


truly these are really good if you use  2 in a push pull at  5.5-6 volts they are really quiet and allow for  a 990gh quiet miner. freq 300

if you use 7 volts  they are pretty quiet and allow for freq 325-350

at 9.2 volts they are better then the stock fan and allow overclock.

I did not bother setting them as pwm as I want a freq super quiet miner .  I send 5.5 volts to the fans   and I am doing this.:



sr. member
Activity: 353
Merit: 251
S1 fan is better than no fan, but S5 fan is a lot more powerful than S1, so you may struggle to keep S5 cold enough...




Ok I finally install everything.
With my setup, I cant run at 350. I run at 275 and get around 875 gh
But the sound is almost 0.

The temps are 63 and 54 is that ok ?

Im also looking to put 2 S1 fan on it but the wire is to short I need to find extender.  Tongue


Totally Understand that! Just want to fine a good way to mine at a good temp with a resonable sound level.
2 S1 fan in push pull should be good ? What is the CFM of the S1 fan ?


Hands down the best is a pair of the delta's from the ebay link.



What link is that?
legendary
Activity: 1274
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I have two S5 coming this week  my question is i can use two of these on each S5 I hate noise I'm 58 .  I have two of these fans right now on  one of my S1 I'm  replacing with S5 .I'll either junk the S1's save the heat sinks for some thing later on or sell them super cheap on Ebay.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FKNAG7Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have two deltas similar to the ones you have on an S5 that runs very quite. There is a link to a video here it has 15 seconds of SP20s and 15 seconds of the S5. Not a very scientific approach but a quick and dirty comparison: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=902305.1240. I like both unit types as they both serve me well.

I knew a guy that worked for Intel. They would actually have the latest processor chips sitting on shelves, never to used yet because they wanted to milk more out of their current technology. So when you see Intel processors saturate the market that usually means some new chips are coming out on the market. The public has no clue about this, and just like bitcoin manufacturer's, they with-hold information from us on purpose for financial gain. Why do you think all the manufacturers were pushing the hell out of their inventory, having big sales and trying to sell as much as they could right before bitcoin dropped below the $400's. Usually when you have and use inside information for financial gain it is illegal, but since this bitcoin market is unrelated, apparently anything goes.



I know + the gov some times gets stuff that due to be released a year before it's released or 6 month to a year before hand . I remember one time a friend that worked for the GOV showed me some thing that wasn't even on the drawing board so we were being told but it was the GoV had it . that's was a few years back i thought that was a lot of BS till he showed it to me. i think it was a  CD Rom player they wasn't  suppose to be on the market or in DEV,  the GOV had it . if they had it im sure they have stuff we wouldn't believe.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
Personal text my ass....
I have two S5 coming this week  my question is i can use two of these on each S5 I hate noise I'm 58 .  I have two of these fans right now on  one of my S1 I'm  replacing with S5 .I'll either junk the S1's save the heat sinks for some thing later on or sell them super cheap on Ebay.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FKNAG7Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have two deltas similar to the ones you have on an S5 that runs very quite. There is a link to a video here it has 15 seconds of SP20s and 15 seconds of the S5. Not a very scientific approach but a quick and dirty comparison: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=902305.1240. I like both unit types as they both serve me well.

I knew a guy that worked for Intel. They would actually have the latest processor chips sitting on shelves, never to used yet because they wanted to milk more out of their current technology. So when you see Intel processors saturate the market that usually means some new chips are coming out on the market. The public has no clue about this, and just like bitcoin manufacturer's, they with-hold information from us on purpose for financial gain. Why do you think all the manufacturers were pushing the hell out of their inventory, having big sales and trying to sell as much as they could right before bitcoin dropped below the $400's. Usually when you have and use inside information for financial gain it is illegal, but since this bitcoin market is unrelated, apparently anything goes.
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1004
The miner is in my living room so I will like to have the best ratio sound vs hashrate.
Im currently 0 dba (almost) but only 275 mhz.
I wanted to test the S1 fan since it was not to high when I run my 3 S1.
I need to find 4 pin extender  Tongue
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
S1 fan is better than no fan, but S5 fan is a lot more powerful than S1, so you may struggle to keep S5 cold enough...




Ok I finally install everything.
With my setup, I cant run at 350. I run at 275 and get around 875 gh
But the sound is almost 0.

The temps are 63 and 54 is that ok ?

Im also looking to put 2 S1 fan on it but the wire is to short I need to find extender.  Tongue


Totally Understand that! Just want to fine a good way to mine at a good temp with a resonable sound level.
2 S1 fan in push pull should be good ? What is the CFM of the S1 fan ?

two s-1's   in push pull will work at least to freq 325.  I tested them.  the cfm of them is around 129-135 and they penetrate air in and out of the heatsinks  pretty well.

Hands down the best is a pair of the delta's from the ebay link.

You can run  quiet (db 47.7)  at freq 300 hash rate 990  or run up to freq 393 at 1290-1300 dp of 60-62   

 the stock fan at freq 393 does db of 75 +   and struggles to cool the s-5.

If super clock is you goal a stock fan and 1 delta gave me freq 412   decent  hash rate 1315-1325   crazy loud db 78-80
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1004
S1 fan is better than no fan, but S5 fan is a lot more powerful than S1, so you may struggle to keep S5 cold enough...




Ok I finally install everything.
With my setup, I cant run at 350. I run at 275 and get around 875 gh
But the sound is almost 0.

The temps are 63 and 54 is that ok ?

Im also looking to put 2 S1 fan on it but the wire is to short I need to find extender.  Tongue


Totally Understand that! Just want to fine a good way to mine at a good temp with a resonable sound level.
2 S1 fan in push pull should be good ? What is the CFM of the S1 fan ?
donator
Activity: 792
Merit: 510
S1 fan is better than no fan, but S5 fan is a lot more powerful than S1, so you may struggle to keep S5 cold enough...




Ok I finally install everything.
With my setup, I cant run at 350. I run at 275 and get around 875 gh
But the sound is almost 0.

The temps are 63 and 54 is that ok ?

Im also looking to put 2 S1 fan on it but the wire is to short I need to find extender.  Tongue

legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1004

Ok I finally install everything.
With my setup, I cant run at 350. I run at 275 and get around 875 gh
But the sound is almost 0.

The temps are 63 and 54 is that ok ?

Im also looking to put 2 S1 fan on it but the wire is to short I need to find extender.  Tongue
newbie
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So I think I found a solution to the high pitch whine of the stock fans. We all know the guide vanes are what's causing the pitch. I received a fan with a broken blade on my my batch 1 S5's and Bitmain was kind enough to ship me a new one. I decided to do a little experiment today to see if reducing the number of vanes would change the pitch, which for my ears (healthy 35 year old) now sounds more like a S3.

You notice on the vane there is a thicker part on the outer edge, I took some wire cutters and cut every other vane right where the thin part of the vane meets the thicker part (careful to line up the fan blades so you don't accidentally cut one). I then used my thumb and as close to center as possible I just pushed down on the cut vane and it popped right off. Note that the power wires run down one vane so you probably will want to start there and you'll still end up with an odd number of cuts. Here's a picture and for those brave enough to try it, let us know your results. My temps are exactly the same and I do use a high cfm pull fans as well. Still experimenting with those, so far the Silverstone Tek 140mm x 38mm Fan seems to be giving me the lowest temps but these S5's seem to run in all different temperature ranges so it's all subjective.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7515/16089177837_65df09d9d5.jpg

That has been my thought/plan if and when (a big if and when) I get S5s except I would be leaving only 3 or 4 vanes and Dremel the rest of them out "clean".  If that will not be satisfactory, there's always the Delta fan option.  I'm glad to know that it did make a difference.



My only suggestion would be to remove and test. The vanes do make a big difference in channeling the air down the center and across the heat sinks. I have higher CFM and higher pressure fans that should in theory cool the S5 down better but without those vanes to center the air they aren't as efficient and my temps get dangerously high. Unfortunately we're stuck with the stock fans or Delta's, for us home miners that don't have climate control.

But you already said, "My temps are exactly the same" (after cutting off some of the vanes).  You now seem to say that (cutting off the vanes) affects the temp.  Did it affect your temp or not?  Which one is it? Huh



The number of vanes I removed did not change the centering of the air flow affect the vanes create and my temps did not change. Cutting them out to only leave 4 I think would change that centering effect a possibly temps, I'm just saying if you're going to remove more than every other one, you might want to do it carefully and test between each cut.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
I am not knocking the cutting up of the stock fan but if it does not work well you no longer have the stock fan.

I got the deltas on ebay for 41 bucks a total of 5 of them that is 8 bucks each .  2 per s-5 a 16 dollar mod.

But I had proper power supply to act as a controller.
Any psu that has  the  adjusting range of 5 to 10 volts  would be a great controller for the delta's.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Switching-Power-Supplies-100-8W-9V-11-2A-Power-Supply-/171616908246?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27f52a33d6

or this one this centers at 7.5 volts

http://www.trcelectronics.com/View/Mean-Well/SE-100-7.5.shtml

this one centers at 9 volts

http://www.trcelectronics.com/View/Mean-Well/SE-100-9.shtml

both of the ones above could control 8 fans .  get the 7.5 if you want quiet and underclock
get the 9 volt one if you want to run a little louder and overclock.

they are lowe cost cheaper then a fan controller and they run more fans.

or you could use the one I had which costs a little more ,but has full range for the fan speed


the delta's allow me to do freq 393 and 1292 -1300 gh hash   using 9.2 volts in a push pull sound level = 60-62db
the delta's allow me to do freq 300 and 990-1000 gh hash      using 5.5 volts in a push pull sound level = 47.7 to 49 db    pretty quiet


in my setup I am opting for the lower freq as sound is an issue

I will see how well it does in the morning


legendary
Activity: 1081
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So I think I found a solution to the high pitch whine of the stock fans. We all know the guide vanes are what's causing the pitch. I received a fan with a broken blade on my my batch 1 S5's and Bitmain was kind enough to ship me a new one. I decided to do a little experiment today to see if reducing the number of vanes would change the pitch, which for my ears (healthy 35 year old) now sounds more like a S3.

You notice on the vane there is a thicker part on the outer edge, I took some wire cutters and cut every other vane right where the thin part of the vane meets the thicker part (careful to line up the fan blades so you don't accidentally cut one). I then used my thumb and as close to center as possible I just pushed down on the cut vane and it popped right off. Note that the power wires run down one vane so you probably will want to start there and you'll still end up with an odd number of cuts. Here's a picture and for those brave enough to try it, let us know your results. My temps are exactly the same and I do use a high cfm pull fans as well. Still experimenting with those, so far the Silverstone Tek 140mm x 38mm Fan seems to be giving me the lowest temps but these S5's seem to run in all different temperature ranges so it's all subjective.



That has been my thought/plan if and when (a big if and when) I get S5s except I would be leaving only 3 or 4 vanes and Dremel the rest of them out "clean".  If that will not be satisfactory, there's always the Delta fan option.  I'm glad to know that it did make a difference.



My only suggestion would be to remove and test. The vanes do make a big difference in channeling the air down the center and across the heat sinks. I have higher CFM and higher pressure fans that should in theory cool the S5 down better but without those vanes to center the air they aren't as efficient and my temps get dangerously high. Unfortunately we're stuck with the stock fans or Delta's, for us home miners that don't have climate control.

But you already said, "My temps are exactly the same" (after cutting off some of the vanes).  You now seem to say that (cutting off the vanes) affects the temp.  Did it affect your temp or not?  Which one is it? Huh

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