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legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
I love the fact that Bitmain always comes through with product and is always working on a new product just as they are releasing one.  
I have always believed in home mining and am addicted to it's nature.
But truth be told hardware in the last year hasn't seemed to make the significant leap to pull ahead of the difficulty.
Yes, we can all buy the latest and sell in 2 to 3 months and buy the new hardware.
This just seems to benefit the manufacturers since they always have the hobbyist willing to buy.
I wish from a hobby only standpoint I could keep miners running, but I usually don't have the overhead
for electric costs vs just buying btc outright.

Short story Long, just wish Bitmain could step ahead of the minimal gains in new hardware only to
be  obsolete next month.  I know this is the way it just is, but can't help think they're r&d has the funds to really
help the home miner and the decentrilization.

what is your power cost?
It's low compared to everywhere else at $.09 kwh but running 7 - 8 S3+'s with btc being low made it tough to keep going.
S1's faired better at the start of last year.  Just trying to keep the btc mined without trading it in to pay expenses.  I don't mind paying
additional $250 or $300 in pud costs but why when you mine less than that in btc.

get some S5 sell off the S3  it will be i was talking to some one from Canada he ( hes a home miner ) told me he has to upgrade to S5 from S3 the power is not worth it any more with S 3 and 8 S5 should give you 901.13 $ A month  before deductions and Next Difficulty [estimated] @ 835.69 $ at stock speeds if did the math right . at 9 cents per KW it wont go that much higher .but i wish the Miner would last a little longer may be 7 to  9 month over 3  go try  alt coins its worse im glad there is a company out there like bit main. most the lite coin miner are way worse and very little of  them beyond KNC i have nothing good to say about them . and A2. I know one or two who mine and pay there power cost each month with the sell of bitcoins they told me it  works out for them that way no real money out of there packets they said they are still able to keep a nice amount of BTC on hand even after paying there power cost each month
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
I love the fact that Bitmain always comes through with product and is always working on a new product just as they are releasing one. 
I have always believed in home mining and am addicted to it's nature.
But truth be told hardware in the last year hasn't seemed to make the significant leap to pull ahead of the difficulty.
Yes, we can all buy the latest and sell in 2 to 3 months and buy the new hardware.
This just seems to benefit the manufacturers since they always have the hobbyist willing to buy.
I wish from a hobby only standpoint I could keep miners running, but I usually don't have the overhead
for electric costs vs just buying btc outright.

Short story Long, just wish Bitmain could step ahead of the minimal gains in new hardware only to
be  obsolete next month.  I know this is the way it just is, but can't help think they're r&d has the funds to really
help the home miner and the decentrilization.

what is your power cost?
It's low compared to everywhere else at $.09 kwh but running 7 - 8 S3+'s with btc being low made it tough to keep going.
S1's faired better at the start of last year.  Just trying to keep the btc mined without trading it in to pay expenses.  I don't mind paying
additional $250 or $300 in pud costs but why when you mine less than that in btc.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
I love the fact that Bitmain always comes through with product and is always working on a new product just as they are releasing one. 
I have always believed in home mining and am addicted to it's nature.
But truth be told hardware in the last year hasn't seemed to make the significant leap to pull ahead of the difficulty.
Yes, we can all buy the latest and sell in 2 to 3 months and buy the new hardware.
This just seems to benefit the manufacturers since they always have the hobbyist willing to buy.
I wish from a hobby only standpoint I could keep miners running, but I usually don't have the overhead
for electric costs vs just buying btc outright.

Short story Long, just wish Bitmain could step ahead of the minimal gains in new hardware only to
be  obsolete next month.  I know this is the way it just is, but can't help think they're r&d has the funds to really
help the home miner and the decentrilization.

what is your power cost?
full member
Activity: 175
Merit: 100
I have two S5 coming this week  my question is i can use two of these on each S5 I hate noise I'm 58 .  I have two of these fans right now on  one of my S1 I'm  replacing with S5 .I'll either junk the S1's save the heat sinks for some thing later on or sell them super cheap on Ebay.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FKNAG7Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have two deltas similar to the ones you have on an S5 that runs very quite. There is a link to a video here it has 15 seconds of SP20s and 15 seconds of the S5. Not a very scientific approach but a quick and dirty comparison: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=902305.1240. I like both unit types as they both serve me well.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
I love the fact that Bitmain always comes through with product and is always working on a new product just as they are releasing one. 
I have always believed in home mining and am addicted to it's nature.
But truth be told hardware in the last year hasn't seemed to make the significant leap to pull ahead of the difficulty.
Yes, we can all buy the latest and sell in 2 to 3 months and buy the new hardware.
This just seems to benefit the manufacturers since they always have the hobbyist willing to buy.
I wish from a hobby only standpoint I could keep miners running, but I usually don't have the overhead
for electric costs vs just buying btc outright.

Short story Long, just wish Bitmain could step ahead of the minimal gains in new hardware only to
be  obsolete next month.  I know this is the way it just is, but can't help think they're r&d has the funds to really
help the home miner and the decentrilization.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'


cool  ty  noise drives me up a wall  but that's my age . Smiley .  btw these are very nice fans to from time to time i watch for deals on them and i keep one or two on hand if I need it .


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


some one else on the forums told me once to try them.

yeah I will be 58 this month  and the higher pitch on the stock s-5 is very hard on my ears.  I can't imagine a room of 20 or more of them clocked to freq 375.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000


cool  ty  noise drives me up a wall  but that's my age . Smiley .  btw these are very nice fans to from time to time i watch for deals on them and i keep one or two on hand if I need it .


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


some one else on the forums told me once to try them.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
I have two S5 coming this week  my question is i can use two of these on each S5 I hate noise I'm 58 .  I have two of these fans right now on  one of my S1 I'm  replacing with S5 .I'll either junk the S1's save the heat sinks for some thing later on or sell them super cheap on Ebay.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FKNAG7Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have them in a isolated basement Grin


cool ty i just bought one of these to i gonna test it, i read some place if you use  this one with just one 3 pin plug it can be controlled by a fan controller while the other, same one with 3-4 plug can't be unless you  mod it all most same price gonna see.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CIB9BTU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


there we go

Connector : 4 pin male molex and 3 pin female.There is a 4-pin molex power connector and a 3-pin TAC connector. The 4-pin molex power connects to a power supply and the 3-pin connects to a 3-pin header. You won't be able to use a fan controller to control the speed of this fan. If you want to be able to use this fan with a fan controller, please purchase the same fan with only the 3-pin TAC connector


That is this fan for 4  bucks less im just testing things so i know what way to go for me .

http://www.amazon.com/Delta-Electronics-AFB1212SHE-CF00-120x120x38mm-connector/dp/B004XJLOG8/ref=pd_cp_pc_0
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
legendary
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
BTC | LTC | XLM | VEN | ARDR
I have two S5 coming this week  my question is i can use two of these on each S5 I hate noise I'm 58 .  I have two of these fans right now on  one of my S1 I'm  replacing with S5 .I'll either junk the S1's save the heat sinks for some thing later on or sell them super cheap on Ebay.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FKNAG7Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have them in a isolated basement Grin
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
I have two S5 coming this week  my question is i can use two of these on each S5 I hate noise I'm 58 .  I have two of these fans right now on  one of my S1 I'm  replacing with S5 .I'll either junk the S1's save the heat sinks for some thing later on or sell them super cheap on Ebay.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FKNAG7Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1004
Like I said, it's ultimately a matter of how one justifies it.  We can debate to eternity and still would not be able to come up with a definitive conclusion that we could both agree on as there are a variety of factors that are difficult if not impossible to accurately and consistently quantify.  In other words, it is a very relative and subjective topic.  At least, I attempted to have some sort of controlled comparison by isolating complicating factors to the best of my ability/knowledge and providing numbers/computation.  That's all we can do in this matter.  If you're happy with the justification of your PSU choice and I'm happy with mine, that should be good enough.

Detailed PSU 80 Plus certification results here:

http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/80PlusPowerSupplies.aspx#
I'm not at all disagreeing with your method, just that your numbers don't match with my experience in terms of the average price difference. It's not a matter of justifying my choices at all, I don't actually use ATX PSUs at all for mining, other than for some testing. I don't need the minor rails so I generally just buy server PSUs. It's hard to beat the value of a 2450W Platinum PSU for $50. Tongue

Is there an interface board available for the 2450W PSU?  I have a Delta DPS-2000BB with a Gekko Science breakout board, but I like the idea of a Platinum PSU.  If there isn't a interface board available, would you mind sharing how you wired yours?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7405286
I bought a crapload of 36" 16 gauge cables from klondike_bar, and used some C14 cables I had laying around for power. I actually included the proper connectors so I could remove the line and 12V cables along with a toggle switch to turn it on and off, but you don't have to. Minimum cost I could have been up and running for about an extra $20 for 8 PCIe plugs, which would be just about right for an SP20. You might want 12 cables to run 3 S5s per PSU though.
hero member
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=905210.msg
Do more people use the server power supplies or the standard ATX power supplies int heir home use?
It seems to me I hear about the PC ATX more, and I got a heck of a deal from a poster on another forum. The EVGA 1300G2 and Corsair AX1200 are running my pair of 'doolie SP20s. I bought those two, an EVGA 1000 G2 and a EVGA750 shipped for 350. They were used, but they were also spotless, so the guy cleaned them well or they were not used much except in a very clean environment.
newbie
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Like I said, it's ultimately a matter of how one justifies it.  We can debate to eternity and still would not be able to come up with a definitive conclusion that we could both agree on as there are a variety of factors that are difficult if not impossible to accurately and consistently quantify.  In other words, it is a very relative and subjective topic.  At least, I attempted to have some sort of controlled comparison by isolating complicating factors to the best of my ability/knowledge and providing numbers/computation.  That's all we can do in this matter.  If you're happy with the justification of your PSU choice and I'm happy with mine, that should be good enough.

Detailed PSU 80 Plus certification results here:

http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/80PlusPowerSupplies.aspx#
I'm not at all disagreeing with your method, just that your numbers don't match with my experience in terms of the average price difference. It's not a matter of justifying my choices at all, I don't actually use ATX PSUs at all for mining, other than for some testing. I don't need the minor rails so I generally just buy server PSUs. It's hard to beat the value of a 2450W Platinum PSU for $50. Tongue

Is there an interface board available for the 2450W PSU?  I have a Delta DPS-2000BB with a Gekko Science breakout board, but I like the idea of a Platinum PSU.  If there isn't a interface board available, would you mind sharing how you wired yours?
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
Like I said, it's ultimately a matter of how one justifies it.  We can debate to eternity and still would not be able to come up with a definitive conclusion that we could both agree on as there are a variety of factors that are difficult if not impossible to accurately and consistently quantify.  In other words, it is a very relative and subjective topic.  At least, I attempted to have some sort of controlled comparison by isolating complicating factors to the best of my ability/knowledge and providing numbers/computation.  That's all we can do in this matter.  If you're happy with the justification of your PSU choice and I'm happy with mine, that should be good enough.

Detailed PSU 80 Plus certification results here:

http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/80PlusPowerSupplies.aspx#
I'm not at all disagreeing with your method, just that your numbers don't match with my experience in terms of the average price difference. It's not a matter of justifying my choices at all, I don't actually use ATX PSUs at all for mining, other than for some testing. I don't need the minor rails so I generally just buy server PSUs. It's hard to beat the value of a 2450W Platinum PSU for $50. Tongue

I wish the wife would let me run a 220 line for a pair of them. oh well
legendary
Activity: 1081
Merit: 1001
Like I said, it's ultimately a matter of how one justifies it.  We can debate to eternity and still would not be able to come up with a definitive conclusion that we could both agree on as there are a variety of factors that are difficult if not impossible to accurately and consistently quantify.  In other words, it is a very relative and subjective topic.  At least, I attempted to have some sort of controlled comparison by isolating complicating factors to the best of my ability/knowledge and providing numbers/computation.  That's all we can do in this matter.  If you're happy with the justification of your PSU choice and I'm happy with mine, that should be good enough.

Detailed PSU 80 Plus certification results here:

http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/80PlusPowerSupplies.aspx#
I'm not at all disagreeing with your method, just that your numbers don't match with my experience in terms of the average price difference. It's not a matter of justifying my choices at all, I don't actually use ATX PSUs at all for mining, other than for some testing. I don't need the minor rails so I generally just buy server PSUs. It's hard to beat the value of a 2450W Platinum PSU for $50. Tongue

I think you are drifting towards debating semantics.  Let's leave it at "relative and subjective" while we're ahead and not digress. Grin

Just in case you missed it, I did qualify my original post with "For example:".  I did not intend or claim it to be a definitive presentation.  I'm not sure why you're nitpicking it.  It was merely to show one of many possibilities and I had to come up with a price difference of $40 which is sound, valid and reasonable to base my computation on.  You contended that it is less than $40 which is another possibility and that's fine; so is a figure above $40 as I have illustrated.  Again, "relative and subjective".

legendary
Activity: 1081
Merit: 1001
I like the evga 1300 g2's for 10 year warranty.
They work well.

 really like that they can run 2 s-5's or 2 sp20's if I down clock.

I like that they make less wires and space. then 2 or 3 smaller psu's

lastly they come with a trick switch for the psu to turn on.

My evga's have

1 run my s-1's
2 run my s-3's
3 now run my sp20's

Since I have 4 of them I have spare wires and such for them.

visdude has also offered a few ideas on the go cheap as you can route they can work for some and not for others

as my evga 1300 g2 pick can work for some not others.

That's why there's a thing called "cable management".  To some, it's a worthwhile challenge that's rewarding when done successfully. Grin

Convenience (non-essential features) is not a function of effectiveness (performance).

Edit:  None of my cheap PSUs has conked out yet.

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