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December 29, 2023, 03:39:36 PM

The Saudi Pro League are mainly not for some mediocre coaches, it's build for clubs that have stand their ground and will do anything to survived and stand firm on ground. The reason why these young coaches in the system are not doing well is basically clear and simple, they don't learn from the appropriate managers, we look at failing coaches like Wayne Rooney, Vincent Kompany despite bringing Burnley to EPL back but they're still going to be relegated because they couldn't meet up. Then for better mentorship, look at Mikel Arteta who learnt from Pep Guardiola how to manage a full elite team, although he's not succeeding but he's trying more than others. You're right about that, I would blame most of these players that are trying to further their career by aiming to becoming a potential coach, when we know fully well that they don't have what it takes to survive in the space.
Coaching is one field that requires its own kind of tutorial and not trying to enmass your footballing tactics inside the world of coaching. If you check, most of the coaches falling short of their jobs are the mostly footballs who turned into coaches overnight, We still have some past footballers who are doing well such as Xabi Alonso and his Leverkusen side; we’ve also got Arteta and his Arsenal side. From this 2 coaches one thing is common in both; learning, tutorship. They both had to lay aside footballing talent and go to learn afresh and that’s why they’re doing well

 Most of this failed footballer turn coach thinks running to Saudi League will be a better option, I think the earlier they realize the Saudi League isn’t what we know before as lowclass, the vetter for them; especially with the recruitment of European stars to the league; that’s a big boost to the league’s status talk more of how composed the clubs there will be playing.
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December 29, 2023, 03:32:37 PM
Full time and Al Hilal managed 2-0 from Al Feiha, this victory make Al Hilal success unbeaten 19 matches and make gap 10 points behind Al Nassr but has one match more.
Al Hilal is the only club in the Saudi league that will give Al Nassr challenges this season to win the league. The point difference for them and Al Nassr is really good.
The difference in points currently looks very large after Al Hilal successfully scored 2 scores to beat Al Feiha.
Meanwhile, today Al Nassr has a slightly tough opponent, such as Al Taawon, which is famous for its strong defense and if in this match Al Nassr fails to win, maybe Al Hilal will no longer be the strongest challenger for Al Nassr because the current point difference is around 10 points and If Al Nassr fails, it is certain that the final leader of the season will be Al Hilal, who has been very strong since the start of season until today.
I predict that the match between Al Taawon and Al Nassr will end in draw with a narrow score.
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December 29, 2023, 02:59:05 PM
Full time and Al Hilal managed 2-0 from Al Feiha, this victory make Al Hilal success unbeaten 19 matches and make gap 10 points behind Al Nassr but has one match more.
Al Hilal is the only club in the Saudi league that will give Al Nassr challenges this season to win the league. The point difference for them and Al Nassr is really good.
Al Hilal is increasingly unstoppable in the competition to win the SPL title this season even though their challengers Al Nassr continue to try to catch up on the number of points in every match.

Al Hilal's achievement after beating Al-Fayha with two goals, reminded me of Neymar's insignificance at this club apart from making Al Hilal's name famous because it has a Neymar.
Al Hilal is very grateful to Mitrovic who is their most prolific goal scorer and is the strongest candidate to beat Ronaldo as SPL's top scorer.
Do you feel that?
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December 29, 2023, 02:29:43 PM
Full time and Al Hilal managed 2-0 from Al Feiha, this victory make Al Hilal success unbeaten 19 matches and make gap 10 points behind Al Nassr but has one match more.
Al Hilal is the only club in the Saudi league that will give Al Nassr challenges this season to win the league. The point difference for them and Al Nassr is really good.

Maybe they are still hoping for better times to come with him and they don't really know who would be an appropriate alternative if they fire him. Are the players good enough actually and is Gerrard not to blame for everything that is going wrong?
Steven Gerrard was not doing well, he was even sacked from his former club, and hasn't had any great result as a coach, but the Saudi's just wanted to sign a popular name to their club. Such a pity that he has been unable to deliver the expected result, at least his move to the club was able to influence some other players to club like Henderson from Liverpool.
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December 29, 2023, 02:09:37 PM
Al-Raed vs Abha match was very hard fought. Al-Raed team won this match with 4 goals. On the other hand, Abha team scored 3 goals. H. Al-Ali scored the first goal in the first 17 minutes of the game. On the other hand, Al-Raed team scored 3 goals.  Team player K. M. Al Subaie scored 1 goal in 21 minutes.M.  Fouzair scored the 2nd goal in the 46th minute.K.  El Berkaoui scored the 3rd goal in 50 minutes.O.  Gonzalez scored the 4th goal at 90+7 minutes.
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December 29, 2023, 01:20:36 PM
I dont know what really happen with Neymar and the "injury" he have, because he announced not so much time ago, he is not gonna play the next America cup in the united state with Brazil, wich is really strange to see because is so much time to recover from his injury, i think he made again a mistake in the recovery so the injury is gonna last longer.

This is Neymar's problem, namely discipline. There were even rumors he was throwing parties while he was recovering. This may interfere with the healing period of the injury. It's not just Brazil that suffers. Now the club is the one who suffers the most when he is very new to Saudi and ends up having a long injury. He hasn't shown his role at the club yet. It would be a shame if Neymar would suffer a very long injury.
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December 29, 2023, 01:19:43 PM
Al Hilal is having its match now, 15 minutes in the score is still 0-0. Looking at their opponents, this should not be a difficult match for them to win and make them stronger at the top of the table. Despite being the visitors, we know what their strengths are and Feiha is not an equal opponent for them.
Al Hilal immediately took the initiative to take over the game and did not allow Feiha to develop its game. Al Hilal are the only unbeaten club so far in the league, so I highly doubt Feiha can hand them their first defeat, especially now that Al Hilal are also in control of the situation even though no goals have been scored. I predict at least 3 goals for Al Hilal.
Full time and Al Hilal managed 2-0 from Al Feiha, this victory make Al Hilal success unbeaten 19 matches and make gap 10 points behind Al Nassr but has one match more. Its crucial victory for Al Hilal need waiting until 86th minutes for scoring first goals trough Ali Albulayhi and Aleksandar Mitrović scored one goals trough penalty kick on additional time.
First time for Al Hilal need waiting longer time for getting victory against Al Feiha with teams current standings on 12th position, usually Al Hilal easy for winning more than two goals and make goals on the first half but the victory make Al Hilal keep comfortable on the top standings position awhile.
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December 29, 2023, 01:12:16 PM
I dont know what really happen with Neymar and the "injury" he have, because he announced not so much time ago, he is not gonna play the next America cup in the united state with Brazil, wich is really strange to see because is so much time to recover from his injury, i think he made again a mistake in the recovery so the injury is gonna last longer.
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December 29, 2023, 11:17:42 AM
Al Hilal is having its match now, 15 minutes in the score is still 0-0. Looking at their opponents, this should not be a difficult match for them to win and make them stronger at the top of the table. Despite being the visitors, we know what their strengths are and Feiha is not an equal opponent for them.
Al Hilal immediately took the initiative to take over the game and did not allow Feiha to develop its game. Al Hilal are the only unbeaten club so far in the league, so I highly doubt Feiha can hand them their first defeat, especially now that Al Hilal are also in control of the situation even though no goals have been scored. I predict at least 3 goals for Al Hilal.
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December 29, 2023, 09:34:11 AM
I don't know whether clubs from the Saudi Professional League ever care about their financials and whether money has some impact on their decisions, but I am quite sure that Steven Gerrard has a fabulous contract that makes him rich in any case. If they fire him, he probably is entitled to a huge severance pay, if they keep him, it is the same.

Maybe they are still hoping for better times to come with him and they don't really know who would be an appropriate alternative if they fire him. Are the players good enough actually and is Gerrard not to blame for everything that is going wrong?
Why is it that most of these EPL players that have it difficult to explore their chances of becoming best coaches in this present era of football? Is crucial situation we ought to be concerned about, but instead the coaches we're hearing are the old coaches that have been in the system for long and there's definitely nothing new about them other than watching the same repeating strategy over and over again, most of them have retired and giving opportunities to the young coaches that have not gather enough experience to deal with the challenges they have. Steven Gerrard was keen on achieving quite important ambition in his long promising managerial role as a coach. Gerrard have issues in dealing with the new club, finding it really hard to blend with the system.
But in fact, being a great player and also a club legend does not make the player successful when he becomes a coach and as with Steven Gerrard, I think there are quite a lot of failed coaches from England. Let's just say that those who have worked as professional coaches, such as Frank Lampard and Wayne Rooney, have all failed in managing a club and this continues to create a bad record for their careers as coaches.

Now Steven Gerrard, who has also expanded to the Saudi league and become coach of El-Ettifaq, is also felt to be less capable of handling the squad of European players they have. Even though the competitive level of the league is still far from the EPL and he failed to at least bring Al-Ettifaq to the top 4 of the Saudi league. Actually the system is not as complicated as other top European leagues and the system in the Saudi league should be much easier for a coach, so I don't think that's an excuse.
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December 29, 2023, 09:22:02 AM
So Steven Gerard only reaching1 point against the last team and the worst one of the league? Plus in home condition?. I dont really know why they dont expell him from the charge of main coach.
Steven was a garbage coach. how the hell ishe doing in the ettifaq? gerrard was the worst coach and no doubt that there's no EPL club that was willing to recruit him anymore to be a new coach It's caused by gerrard has no passion to become a new coach.
The ettifaq has very stupid management and this may become the main reason why ettifaq was not expelling him from the club. If i was the management of club the i have sacked him a few weeks ago.

They have 4 super higg level players, Jordan Henderson, Wijnaldum, Dembele, and Gray, you cant do this bad with that names.
They were not enough but the main concern must be this club has no chemistry. They were playing inconsistently in any match. People are starting to doubt with the future of gerrard in ettifaq.
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December 29, 2023, 09:12:08 AM
Since Al Hilal hired Neymar they couldn't use this player a lot and he was mostly injured.
Even during the summer when Neyamr joined Al Hilal he was injured and couldn't help the team, that's why they are even about to see another player and spend even more money on another player to take his place.
However, even without Neymar Al Hilal has perfect performance, they are currently at the top of the table with a huge gap.
They want now to hire Junya Ito the Japanese player of Reims, but he is still under contract with his team until 2026.


They can break the contract and pay fee if they really want to have the player. Junya Ito is a very talented player from Japan and we already see what Kaoru Mitoma can do in Premier League with Brighton. Junya Ito also shown himself well with his national team in World Cup 2022 and at lower levels like in Saudi Professional League, I don't think he will get big problems to play in Saudi Arabia.

He also had good experience with Asian football by playing for Japanese clubs and his national team many years. Al Hilal will have to convince the player and it is most important to make this transfer happens. Maybe Junya does not want money but want to achieve something for his career. Chance for him to move to bigger clubs in Europe looks not too big so if he decides to leave Europe and joins Saudi Professional League, with a biggest club there, it's not bad decision.

I'm not sure how much money Al Hial should spend for Junya Ito to release this player but this player is worth 10 million in the transfer market and surely Arsenal will even try harder to keep him in the team.
Regardless of that, I don't think if Junya Ito will ever accept play for Al Hial because he is still a young player and he can play for the top European team for years, also he is in a good situation in Arsenal and they are racing for the premier league and Champions League, which means there is not the reason for him to accept this offer unless they offer a huge amount of salary and change his mind.
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December 29, 2023, 08:27:56 AM
Not only Gerrard but Roy Kean, Rooney and Lampard have yet achieved great things in their coach career. Moving to Saudi Professional League is not the end for Gerrard career and he can take Xavi as an example. Xavi moved to Qatar but returned to Barcelona and won La Liga with them in the last season.
The Saudi Pro League are mainly not for some mediocre coaches, it's build for clubs that have stand their ground and will do anything to survived and stand firm on ground. The reason why these young coaches in the system are not doing well is basically clear and simple, they don't learn from the appropriate managers, we look at failing coaches like Wayne Rooney, Vincent Kompany despite bringing Burnley to EPL back but they're still going to be relegated because they couldn't meet up. Then for better mentorship, look at Mikel Arteta who learnt from Pep Guardiola how to manage a full elite team, although he's not succeeding but he's trying more than others. You're right about that, I would blame most of these players that are trying to further their career by aiming to becoming a potential coach, when we know fully well that they don't have what it takes to survive in the space.
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December 29, 2023, 08:21:36 AM
Why is it that most of these EPL players that have it difficult to explore their chances of becoming best coaches in this present era of football?
This fact is not new and being a legendary player and being a legendary coach are very different. In history there are very scarce people who can be both legendary player, then achieved the same in coach career. Very few super star players can achieve that and star players from Premier League in the era of Rooney, Lampard, Gerrard, Kean are not different.

Some players even stated clearly that they did not want to become coaches because it is too stressful for them. Maybe with their experience as star players, with their past conflicts with coaches, they understood how hard a coach management life is.

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Steven Gerrard was keen on achieving quite important ambition in his long promising managerial role as a coach. Gerrard have issues in dealing with the new club, finding it really hard to blend with the system.
Not only Gerrard but Roy Kean, Rooney and Lampard have yet achieved great things in their coach career. Moving to Saudi Professional League is not the end for Gerrard career and he can take Xavi as an example. Xavi moved to Qatar but returned to Barcelona and won La Liga with them in the last season.
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December 29, 2023, 08:16:02 AM
I don't know whether clubs from the Saudi Professional League ever care about their financials and whether money has some impact on their decisions, but I am quite sure that Steven Gerrard has a fabulous contract that makes him rich in any case. If they fire him, he probably is entitled to a huge severance pay, if they keep him, it is the same.

Maybe they are still hoping for better times to come with him and they don't really know who would be an appropriate alternative if they fire him. Are the players good enough actually and is Gerrard not to blame for everything that is going wrong?
Why is it that most of these EPL players that have it difficult to explore their chances of becoming best coaches in this present era of football? Is crucial situation we ought to be concerned about, but instead the coaches we're hearing are the old coaches that have been in the system for long and there's definitely nothing new about them other than watching the same repeating strategy over and over again, most of them have retired and giving opportunities to the young coaches that have not gather enough experience to deal with the challenges they have. Steven Gerrard was keen on achieving quite important ambition in his long promising managerial role as a coach. Gerrard have issues in dealing with the new club, finding it really hard to blend with the system.
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December 29, 2023, 08:15:51 AM
So Steven Gerard only reaching1 point against the last team and the worst one of the league? Plus in home condition?. I dont really know why they dont expell him from the charge of main coach.

They have 4 super higg level players, Jordan Henderson, Wijnaldum, Dembele, and Gray, you cant do this bad with that names.
Surprisingly, these bad results continue even when facing the lowest teams which should be a guarantee for Al Ettifaq to be able to end the previous bad results so in total in eight matches in the Saudi pro league Al Ettifaq has never won once, this is a very bad record.
Just like you who asked why Steven Gerrard wasn't fired, maybe that's what many people are thinking, especially Al Ettifaq fans, who hope that this team can perform well with several well-known names who were also quite good players in their previous team, and in the next three matches this team will still continue to experience bad results because their three opponents are quite good teams, against Al Hilal and Damac it is very possible for them to lose, while against Al Khaleej a draw is probably the best result that Ettifaq can achieve.
Gerrard doesn't seem to have found a suitable playing rhythm for Al-ettifaq. The players he chose to bring to Al-ETtifaq also don't seem to be able to contribute optimally in every match. There is a deadlock in their game performance. And yes, in the next match Al-ettifaq has the potential to lose points again. Because Al-Khaleej is much stronger than Al-Hazm. So if Al-ETtifaq hasn't changed and improved then they won't be successful in the next match. But if Al-ettifaq improves then they will definitely be able to beat Al-Khaleej. And actually the match against Al-Khaleej is a good opportunity for Al-ettifaq to collect points. Because after this match Al-ettifaq has the potential to lose points when facing Al-hilal and Damac. Gerrard will definitely think hard this time. Because his career at Al-ETtifaq will also be threatened if he continues to fail to get points.
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December 29, 2023, 07:52:52 AM
So Steven Gerard only reaching1 point against the last team and the worst one of the league? Plus in home condition?. I dont really know why they dont expell him from the charge of main coach.

They have 4 super higg level players, Jordan Henderson, Wijnaldum, Dembele, and Gray, you cant do this bad with that names.
Luckily I didn't enter the Al-Ettifaq vs Al-Hazm match and if I had said yes, my bet would have been finished from the start. I still can't believe they only drew 1-1 and this is another failure for Steven Gerrard as Al-Ettifaq coach. I think Al-Ettifaq will start to recover in this match because in the last few matches they have never won again and I think this will be the start of their revival.

But unfortunately they couldn't offer this to the fans who came to support him and this result also gave Steven Gerrard a red report and soon his fate would begin to be at stake. It is appropriate for Steven Gerrard to be fired because in fact as a coach he is not good enough and with the squad of European players he currently has he is not able to maximize it. On the other hand, I also heard news that Steven Gerrard wants new European players in January and this is actually not a problem of a lack of European players but it is just Steven Gerrard who cannot manage the squad well.
I already thought that this match would not live up to expectations because Al Ettifaq's consistency really needs to be questioned. We can see that in the last 5 matches Ettifaq has not won at all and has lost 13 points, 13 points is not a small number and this match Ettifaq should be able to won full points because they faced the weakest club in the Saudi Pro League, especially since this match was held at Ettifaq's headquarters, but instead Ettifaq was unable to produce the results that their fans expected.

Steven Gerarrd's position as coach of Al Ettifaq is under threat because he has not been able to give his best, especially as recently Ettifaq has suffered consecutive defeats, of course this makes Steven Gerarrd even more depressed and all Ettifaq fans don't seem to accept his coaching style, even though he has experience in Europe However, Steven Gerarrd does not really control the club he brought because the playing styles of the Saudi League and the European League are of course different.

The famous person, Steven Gerrard, is currently facing a potential threat to his reputation due to his performance in Al Ettifaq. At the moment when he joined Al Ettifaq, there was much news about this coach since he was a famous and good performing coach in Liverpool but it seems even if you are a good player it doesn't mean that you can also be a good coach and we saw that about Steven Gerrard.
 
He was only being famous as a player but not as a manager. Gerrard never able to bring his club to get the trophy or win the competition. Any reason to call it as a good manager? I don't see any. You said that good performing coach in the liverpool?
Seriousy, is this true? I never say him to have good history in the his track record. Gerrard is always unable to help his club to perform better but he was destroying it. Im not even seeing a good reason to call him as a professional manager.
He was good as a player but not as a manager. Gerrard has no passion in managing the club. I hope ettifaq will be wisely taking the right decision to prvent its club to go down even depeer than before.

Now in Al Ettifaq, he is about to even get fired from this team because so far even after the money they spent, still, Al Ettifaq still couldn't get food results in this season.

I hope he will be fired soon. Im not expecting a lot from him right now. gerrard makes me come to y conclusion if he will not be a worthy coach anymore for ettifaq. Gerrard has not even made a progress and this is a disaster for me to see him keep coaching ettifaq.
Gerrard needs to be sacker or ittihad will always be going down to the bottom standing of saudi pro league. The club needs to evaluate the result of him since he was coming to the ettifaq
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December 29, 2023, 07:41:38 AM
So Steven Gerard only reaching1 point against the last team and the worst one of the league? Plus in home condition?. I dont really know why they dont expell him from the charge of main coach.

They have 4 super higg level players, Jordan Henderson, Wijnaldum, Dembele, and Gray, you cant do this bad with that names.
Surprisingly, these bad results continue even when facing the lowest teams which should be a guarantee for Al Ettifaq to be able to end the previous bad results so in total in eight matches in the Saudi pro league Al Ettifaq has never won once, this is a very bad record.
Just like you who asked why Steven Gerrard wasn't fired, maybe that's what many people are thinking, especially Al Ettifaq fans, who hope that this team can perform well with several well-known names who were also quite good players in their previous team, and in the next three matches this team will still continue to experience bad results because their three opponents are quite good teams, against Al Hilal and Damac it is very possible for them to lose, while against Al Khaleej a draw is probably the best result that Ettifaq can achieve.

I don't know whether clubs from the Saudi Professional League ever care about their financials and whether money has some impact on their decisions, but I am quite sure that Steven Gerrard has a fabulous contract that makes him rich in any case. If they fire him, he probably is entitled to a huge severance pay, if they keep him, it is the same.

Maybe they are still hoping for better times to come with him and they don't really know who would be an appropriate alternative if they fire him. Are the players good enough actually and is Gerrard not to blame for everything that is going wrong?
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December 29, 2023, 05:16:51 AM
So Steven Gerard only reaching1 point against the last team and the worst one of the league? Plus in home condition?. I dont really know why they dont expell him from the charge of main coach.

They have 4 super higg level players, Jordan Henderson, Wijnaldum, Dembele, and Gray, you cant do this bad with that names.
Surprisingly, these bad results continue even when facing the lowest teams which should be a guarantee for Al Ettifaq to be able to end the previous bad results so in total in eight matches in the Saudi pro league Al Ettifaq has never won once, this is a very bad record.
Just like you who asked why Steven Gerrard wasn't fired, maybe that's what many people are thinking, especially Al Ettifaq fans, who hope that this team can perform well with several well-known names who were also quite good players in their previous team, and in the next three matches this team will still continue to experience bad results because their three opponents are quite good teams, against Al Hilal and Damac it is very possible for them to lose, while against Al Khaleej a draw is probably the best result that Ettifaq can achieve.
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December 29, 2023, 05:01:13 AM
So Steven Gerard only reaching1 point against the last team and the worst one of the league? Plus in home condition?. I dont really know why they dont expell him from the charge of main coach.

They have 4 super higg level players, Jordan Henderson, Wijnaldum, Dembele, and Gray, you cant do this bad with that names.
Luckily I didn't enter the Al-Ettifaq vs Al-Hazm match and if I had said yes, my bet would have been finished from the start. I still can't believe they only drew 1-1 and this is another failure for Steven Gerrard as Al-Ettifaq coach. I think Al-Ettifaq will start to recover in this match because in the last few matches they have never won again and I think this will be the start of their revival.

But unfortunately they couldn't offer this to the fans who came to support him and this result also gave Steven Gerrard a red report and soon his fate would begin to be at stake. It is appropriate for Steven Gerrard to be fired because in fact as a coach he is not good enough and with the squad of European players he currently has he is not able to maximize it. On the other hand, I also heard news that Steven Gerrard wants new European players in January and this is actually not a problem of a lack of European players but it is just Steven Gerrard who cannot manage the squad well.
I already thought that this match would not live up to expectations because Al Ettifaq's consistency really needs to be questioned. We can see that in the last 5 matches Ettifaq has not won at all and has lost 13 points, 13 points is not a small number and this match Ettifaq should be able to won full points because they faced the weakest club in the Saudi Pro League, especially since this match was held at Ettifaq's headquarters, but instead Ettifaq was unable to produce the results that their fans expected.

Steven Gerarrd's position as coach of Al Ettifaq is under threat because he has not been able to give his best, especially as recently Ettifaq has suffered consecutive defeats, of course this makes Steven Gerarrd even more depressed and all Ettifaq fans don't seem to accept his coaching style, even though he has experience in Europe However, Steven Gerarrd does not really control the club he brought because the playing styles of the Saudi League and the European League are of course different.

Steven Gerrard is a famous person and his reputation is obviously in danger while he is having this performance in Al Ettifaq. At the moment when he joined Al Ettifaq, there was much news about this coach since he was a famous and good performing coach in Liverpool but it seems even if you are a good player it doesn't mean that you can also be a good coach and we saw that about Steven Gerrard.
Now in Al Ettifaq, he is about to even get fired from this team because so far even after the money they spent, still, Al Ettifaq still couldn't get food results in this season.

 
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