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September 05, 2023, 09:40:13 PM
Yannick Carrasco could have much better options than playing for the Saudis. This 30-year-old palyer had one year left on his contract with Atletico Madrid and he asked the team to let him go.
Atletico Madrid earned 15 million from this deal which is a good amount of money for a palyer like Yannick Carrasco.
He signed a three-year contract with Al Shabab.




In the end, football is just like any other career option, and players usually change teams when they get an offer which is difficult to reject. Talking about Al Shabab, it is not one of the teams under the ownership of the Saudi Public Investment Fund. But despite that, the team management has been successful in attracting good players from around the world. Yannick Carrasco will get an opportunity to compete against Ronaldo, Neymar or Benzema whenever his team plays against Al Nassr or Al Hilal. So at this point, I don't think that there is a need to talk about this move in such a negative manner.
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FOR NOW its not a problem for european football, but i repeat FOR NOW, or NOT YET, whatever you prefer, because like you said, today they only own old players that are in his final efforts, or in the last of his carrer, or someone who for X reason dont have a space in the team, so they send him to another team to catch minute or make money.

But with 2 years of this transfers..... i can see a bad situation for european football. Lets see how all this develop.
Well I don't really smell trouble for the European football given that, not all players would be interested in moving over there, we've seen cases where some players rejected juge offers from the SPL in this recent transfer window, and also the European learn far more better and developed than the SPL and alot of players would love to play in major tournaments in Europe than  down grading to the SPL.
 
 However it's nice to see that the Saudi clubs are now able to attract youngsters into their league, according to the news, Everton youngster Demarai Gray is so eager to switch to the Saudi side and has made it clear that he wants to move to AL-Ettifaq and theirs was an ongoing talks between both clubs and it's advancing to the final stage.

 Also everything is done on Gray's side  and both clubs are getting closer to an agreement, he's expected to sign a four year deal with AL-Ettifaq,  and it is said that he's already accepted a move to the club last week.
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September 05, 2023, 06:59:18 PM
The only downside for Carrasco is that he transferred to a fifth level team, and they are not good. If it was Hilal or Ahli or Nassr I would understand the situation and that would have made some sense without a doubt, but that doesn't seem to be the way he will go, he is going to a team where he is the only huge name.

I get that there are some other names there that people may know, but none that are amazing and big names neither. I think it should be important to just focus on how they can move forward with this. I get that it is going to be tough for him, but he is making good money he can't make anywhere else, so that should be important without a doubt, I think it should be the most important case for him.

Yannick Carrasco could have much better options than playing for the Saudis. This 30-year-old palyer had one year left on his contract with Atletico Madrid and he asked the team to let him go.
Atletico Madrid earned 15 million from this deal which is a good amount of money for a palyer like Yannick Carrasco.
He signed a three-year contract with Al Shabab.


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September 05, 2023, 06:39:28 PM
FOR NOW its not a problem for european football, but i repeat FOR NOW, or NOT YET, whatever you prefer, because like you said, today they only own old players that are in his final efforts, or in the last of his carrer, or someone who for X reason dont have a space in the team, so they send him to another team to catch minute or make money.

But with 2 years of this transfers..... i can see a bad situation for european football. Lets see how all this develop.
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September 05, 2023, 05:44:27 PM
Al-Nassr can’t rely on Ronaldo to win every match and other stars too need to step up and help the team win matches. Lastly what are you’ll thoughts will Salah make a move on the last day because if the new rumour is true then Liverpool can’t turn down such a huge amount and while it may derail their current season but it’ll help them improve their finances for the long run.

It is true and they know this. Bringing Ronaldo into the club was not to be dependent on him to win every game that would be too myopic of the club's  management. Rather what I think is that he is acting as a catalyst for the other teammates. To improve their performance to influence them to and we know that it is working. Ronaldo will not always be there, they want to birth more stars from the Arab world through him. As for Liverpool, Salah isn't going he has made his decision known.
The best players like Cristiano Ronaldo, Karim Benzema, Sadio Mane, Neymar Jr joined the Saudi league and took the league to unique heights. Thus, if Saudi clubs add good players from more European clubs in the next season, then European football will be under some threat.

I don't think like you and I don't think if Saudi League will ever be a problem for European football and threatening them because the Saudi teams can buy are usually older players and the superstar players with a good future in top teams will never join the Saudi League unless they are near to end their career.
A player like Ronaldo would never join the Saudi League in his good days.
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September 05, 2023, 04:06:12 PM
The only downside for Carrasco is that he transferred to a fifth level team, and they are not good. If it was Hilal or Ahli or Nassr I would understand the situation and that would have made some sense without a doubt, but that doesn't seem to be the way he will go, he is going to a team where he is the only huge name.

I get that there are some other names there that people may know, but none that are amazing and big names neither. I think it should be important to just focus on how they can move forward with this. I get that it is going to be tough for him, but he is making good money he can't make anywhere else, so that should be important without a doubt, I think it should be the most important case for him.
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September 05, 2023, 03:53:50 PM
You missed something that Al Hilal is now at the top of the standings, they also have quite a lot of stars. There is Aleksandar Mitovic, although he is not as famous as other top players, this player has scored four goals in his three matches with Al Hilal. apart from that, they have Malcom and also Neymar. these two players, can rotate each other. Apart from that, there are several other players who are quite established and really understand this competition. for example, Michael and also several local players who have qualities above the average for local players from other teams.

If Al Nassr targets to win this competition trophy, they must overthrow their toughest rivals. Apart from that, Al Ittìhad as defending champions will defend their title. rumor has it, they want Salah to join and deepen their team squad. If Mo Salah is finally brought from Liverpool, Al Ittihad will increasingly become a very competitive team. Thus, it is not an easy matter for Ronaldo and his colleagues to win this trophy easily, especially now that they are 4 points behind the top of the standings.
if Al Nassr achieves minor results, then their rivals will widen the gap in points. So, like it or not, Luis Carlo has to bring his team to win game after game. thus, they will reduce the points gap from the top spot. that way, the competition will be more exciting.
That's right, the battle for the championship trophy will be even tougher for Al Nassr this season. Saido Mane and Cristiano Ronaldo have to go the extra mile to secure points in each game, in the remaining time of the SPL transfer it is better for Al Nassr to add some good defenders. If not, it will be difficult for Al Nassr to keep up with Al Ittihad, Al Ahli, Al Hilal this season.

If M. Salah officially joins the SPL, we will see a spectacle like the European Champions League. Because they have names like Fermino, Neymar, Benzema, Ronaldo, Mane, Kante, Henderson and several others, we used to see them a lot in the UCL and now we watch them in the SPL.
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September 05, 2023, 03:12:30 PM
Saudi is just trying to change that bad image owned by its football league.

Money has the power to bring about change. Saudi Arabia is currently ranked only 54th in FIFA. It is indeed no better than Mali. The media did report that this was an Arab move to improve the bad image of their case.  There have been cases like the murder of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi in 2018 at the hands of Saudi agents, and the devastating war that began in Yemen in 2015, and you're probably right they have a target of hosting the 2030 world cup.

It cannot be denied that the 2030 World Cup is the first target the event will bring millions of people to Saudi to watch all the matches then after that they will continue with the next target of introducing the mega project that is being built, if all plans go according to target and succeed then the Saudi Pro League might also end I mean there is no more big news like bringing in star players because their target has been achieved. What is happening now is not for the long term, believe me, no one wants to spend that much money for nothing/return.
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September 05, 2023, 03:04:38 PM
There are 2 ways to build a great club the first as you said through the academy prepares young talent the 2nd way is to use the power of money Real Madrid is an example of success in using money,
The Saudi League decided to use the power of money to build their teams because they also need popularity, which they could get by signing top players, which is what’s currently happening.
Saudi doesn't have a strong basis in the football. Using its money to build the league has become the only way for the country to reach a higher level for its football. I have been also putting this as the main concern in this past which will be also kicking the local players from the club but there's no way to push it eevn higher other than use money as the main resources to make it happen.

Building their own players won’t really bring popularity to the league within the short period of time that they needed it, but as we all can see, since they signed Ronaldo, people started following the league, and the big signings that they made this season boosted their popularity, and even people that didn’t know much about the league before are beginning to follow the league due to the players that they signed. The money spent is not a waste because they are already achieving their aims. I can’t just imagine how Saudi league is going to be in the next few years to come.
I rarely see saudi player got big name. This is also the main reason saudi was prefer in buying the western player instead of developing their own players. We shall also go back to the main aim by saudi club to host 2030 world cup.
This is the only way to increase people's awareness to the saudi pro league. I remember when people considered the Saudi Pro League as a low-level league compared to other leagues like the Chinese League or even MLS..

Saudi is just trying to change that bad image owned by its football league.
The country's arrangement of the Saudi Premier League undoubtedly reveals that they are not thinking about their national team or football. They are now competing in the Football League. But if you consider it positively then you have to say that they have taken a good decision. They are having their league run by world famous players from which surely the players of that country can learn a lot. And who will get this benefit? Today, with players like Ronaldo, Neymar, if the Saudi players get a chance to play directly or enjoy their game, it is not less to catch their strategies. Now they get less opportunities but in the future their opportunities may increase. It is certainly not impossible to expect good things when exposed to good players.

As Saudi league is spending record amounts of money, they must be hoping for something better. Some football concern in Europe may be thinking something like China but Saudi can be said to be very successful already. In the meantime some others European coaches and team managers feel that this league is now becoming their biggest rival.
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September 05, 2023, 03:04:23 PM
Al-Nassr can’t rely on Ronaldo to win every match and other stars too need to step up and help the team win matches. Lastly what are you’ll thoughts will Salah make a move on the last day because if the new rumour is true then Liverpool can’t turn down such a huge amount and while it may derail their current season but it’ll help them improve their finances for the long run.

It is true and they know this. Bringing Ronaldo into the club was not to be dependent on him to win every game that would be too myopic of the club's  management. Rather what I think is that he is acting as a catalyst for the other teammates. To improve their performance to influence them to and we know that it is working. Ronaldo will not always be there, they want to birth more stars from the Arab world through him. As for Liverpool, Salah isn't going he has made his decision known.
The best players like Cristiano Ronaldo, Karim Benzema, Sadio Mane, Neymar Jr joined the Saudi league and took the league to unique heights. Thus, if Saudi clubs add good players from more European clubs in the next season, then European football will be under some threat.
I didn't think that far ahead and looking at the prospects I saw a similar pattern to the previous China League which brought in top players from European leagues at fantastic prices and salaries but their popularity was only temporary.
And another reason, even though Saudi Arabia often participates in the World Cup, Saudi Arabia is not a country that has a football culture as strong as Europe.

Yes, I hope I'm not right. But in my opinion that is impossible to happen even though the Saudi League brings in a lot of top European players, and for Cristiano Ronaldo, Karim Benzema, Sadio Mane, Neymar Jr, they are not what they used to be and it's all because of money.
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September 05, 2023, 02:10:04 PM
Al nassr has so many super stars on its club. I think that the club is not always rely on him at this moment. It's unlikely to happen caused by there was also mane in the club. Nassr is still willing to add new player to its club as soon as possible.
Al ittihad may become the strongest competitor if salah will be coming there. Even though benzema has been giving awareness for him not to join but it's likely salah will agree. He will become the most expensive player in the world.

You missed something that Al Hilal is now at the top of the standings, they also have quite a lot of stars. There is Aleksandar Mitovic, although he is not as famous as other top players, this player has scored four goals in his three matches with Al Hilal. apart from that, they have Malcom and also Neymar. these two players, can rotate each other. Apart from that, there are several other players who are quite established and really understand this competition. for example, Michael and also several local players who have qualities above the average for local players from other teams.

If Al Nassr targets to win this competition trophy, they must overthrow their toughest rivals. Apart from that, Al Ittìhad as defending champions will defend their title. rumor has it, they want Salah to join and deepen their team squad. If Mo Salah is finally brought from Liverpool, Al Ittihad will increasingly become a very competitive team. Thus, it is not an easy matter for Ronaldo and his colleagues to win this trophy easily, especially now that they are 4 points behind the top of the standings.
if Al Nassr achieves minor results, then their rivals will widen the gap in points. So, like it or not, Luis Carlo has to bring his team to win game after game. thus, they will reduce the points gap from the top spot. that way, the competition will be more exciting.
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September 05, 2023, 12:17:36 PM
Al-Nassr can’t rely on Ronaldo to win every match and other stars too need to step up and help the team win matches. Lastly what are you’ll thoughts will Salah make a move on the last day because if the new rumour is true then Liverpool can’t turn down such a huge amount and while it may derail their current season but it’ll help them improve their finances for the long run.

It is true and they know this. Bringing Ronaldo into the club was not to be dependent on him to win every game that would be too myopic of the club's  management. Rather what I think is that he is acting as a catalyst for the other teammates. To improve their performance to influence them to and we know that it is working. Ronaldo will not always be there, they want to birth more stars from the Arab world through him. As for Liverpool, Salah isn't going he has made his decision known.
The best players like Cristiano Ronaldo, Karim Benzema, Sadio Mane, Neymar Jr joined the Saudi league and took the league to unique heights. Thus, if Saudi clubs add good players from more European clubs in the next season, then European football will be under some threat.
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September 05, 2023, 12:16:41 PM

But usually the different places of the character of the community so do not have to use the same method, this kind of thing cannot be compared from both, as you say the standard of life in Saudi Arabia is different, but in my opinion they also get a different payment offer, humans have Eve want to be successful in their respective hobbies and humans also have high hopes or greed in this case, if the payments given by the soccer team are much more expensive in the academy or team they enter, it will be enough to motivate in my opinion.
The Saudi's know that it might take quite a long time to build their academy and based the fact that most of their youth players are not playing up to the standard of attracting other to their sports they decided to use the strategy of signing European players from top clubs to help attract viewers and so far it's payed off this season, because this new players they got are now making the league more competitive and interesting to watch as well as helping to build the youth side into future prospects, with their experience playing alongside them.
 The Saudi's are not like most South Americans that depend solely on future to elevate their families from poverty they're already financially stable need the experience of the top players to help build their league and the price they have to pay is using their financial capabilities to attract them into their league even though it means overspending, which is ongoing currently.
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September 05, 2023, 12:11:32 PM
Al-Nassr can’t rely on Ronaldo to win every match and other stars too need to step up and help the team win matches. Lastly what are you’ll thoughts will Salah make a move on the last day because if the new rumour is true then Liverpool can’t turn down such a huge amount and while it may derail their current season but it’ll help them improve their finances for the long run.

It is true and they know this. Bringing Ronaldo into the club was not to be dependent on him to win every game that would be too myopic of the club's  management. Rather what I think is that he is acting as a catalyst for the other teammates. To improve their performance to influence them to and we know that it is working. Ronaldo will not always be there, they want to birth more stars from the Arab world through him. As for Liverpool, Salah isn't going he has made his decision known.
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September 05, 2023, 12:00:02 PM
But indeed if Saudi Arabia wants to have a better generation of football at this time the right moment, where on their land there are many star players who compete every week, this will be an attraction for the younger generation who begin to develop, of course the making of the academy will accommodate The interest of today's generation football is echoing in Arab land, even though the population is not so much.
That's right, the move of European star players to the Saudi Arabian League certainly opens up opportunities for young players to show off their skills at their respective clubs because Saudi Arabian football is increasingly in the world spotlight. And the enthusiasm of the young generation of Saudi Arabia will continue to increase, because so far Saudi Arabian football has seen its development even before its star players arrived in the SPL, this was seen when Saudi Arabia appeared in the world cup last year.
Yes that's true, especially when they win against Argentina with a score of 2-1 it makes many people very surprised and happy, and I think it is a factor of optimism in the progress of the Saudi Arabian league to increase their strength by motivating their people to be interested in the soccer industry so brave pay a large fee to bring in world star players.

The problem of time will definitely take quite a long time in the development of this academy, so for now it is still very much needed by outside players to increase their league popularity.
Of course this process requires a lot of time, it takes a long time and is consistently consistent to make the SPL league into the world's top five, including in building an academy that will produce star players. In essence, Saudi Arabia's progress in making football popular has started to reap results, just a small example, they have been successful in terms of TV broadcasting rights.
We will witness it in the next season, whether it will increase drastically its popularity because they have a lot of broadcast rights and demand demands from all corners of the world.

Firstly, these are utopian plans, and secondly, they are too long-term - for the academies to give some kind of result, it will probably take about 10 years. The population of Saudi Arabia is 34 million people, the third of which are labor migrants, it is obvious that if the Saudis want to strive for the level of the top leagues, they must focus on external sources of players.
But indeed if Saudi Arabia wants to have a better generation of football at this time the right moment, where on their land there are many star players who compete every week, this will be an attraction for the younger generation who begin to develop, of course the making of the academy will accommodate The interest of today's generation football is echoing in Arab land, even though the population is not so much.

The problem of time will definitely take quite a long time in the development of this academy, so for now it is still very much needed by outside players to increase their league popularity.

It might work this way. For example, the young generation of Indian chess players that we are seeing now is the result of Anand's success fifteen years ago. But there are nuances: India is a very poor country with a huge population, and Saudi Arabia, in addition to having a small population, also has a high standard of living, so the success of football players (which, for example, in Brazil are equal to getting out of poverty) will not mean much to the Saudis.

But usually the different places of the character of the community so do not have to use the same method, this kind of thing cannot be compared from both, as you say the standard of life in Saudi Arabia is different, but in my opinion they also get a different payment offer, humans have Eve want to be successful in their respective hobbies and humans also have high hopes or greed in this case, if the payments given by the soccer team are much more expensive in the academy or team they enter, it will be enough to motivate in my opinion.
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September 05, 2023, 11:57:17 AM
There are 2 ways to build a great club the first as you said through the academy prepares young talent the 2nd way is to use the power of money Real Madrid is an example of success in using money,
The Saudi League decided to use the power of money to build their teams because they also need popularity, which they could get by signing top players, which is what’s currently happening. Building their own players won’t really bring popularity to the league within the short period of time that they needed it, but as we all can see, since they signed Ronaldo, people started following the league, and the big signings that they made this season boosted their popularity, and even people that didn’t know much about the league before are beginning to follow the league due to the players that they signed. The money spent is not a waste because they are already achieving their aims. I can’t just imagine how Saudi league is going to be in the next few years to come.

In the next years, the Saudi league will grow to be a major league in which every aspiring young athlete from across the world will want to play and be featured. After the massive signing of Ronaldo and other elite players that follow suit, football is gradually turning a new direction to the Saudi league.

Very soon, the competition will be between the European leagues and the Saudi league, which players will not mind joining but will prioritise where they will be paid more, which is also not a bad idea because most of the players leaving home are looking for a big pay in football and a big name, which the Saudi league may be able to provide in the coming years.

I simply cannot imagine how football will get more interesting and competitive in terms of great players throughout history. The Saudi league exploited the oil-rich money they have to their advantage, and the results of the idea are already being achieved.
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September 05, 2023, 11:54:36 AM
Saudi is just trying to change that bad image owned by its football league.

Money has the power to bring about change. Saudi Arabia is currently ranked only 54th in FIFA. It is indeed no better than Mali. The media did report that this was an Arab move to improve the bad image of their case.  There have been cases like the murder of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi in 2018 at the hands of Saudi agents, and the devastating war that began in Yemen in 2015, and you're probably right they have a target of hosting the 2030 world cup.

It seems, with several clubs in the Saudi Pro League buying star players, it is at least to improve the quality of their football as well and not just about improving a bad image. Because after all, if the Saudi Pro League had such a bad image then I'm sure, maybe Ronaldo also at that time would have rejected it. But what happened was that Ronaldo accepted and was followed by many other star players, including several coaches too. So yes, I personally think it is to improve the quality of their football, and not about repairing a bad image because I don't think there was a bad image before that destroyed their football.
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September 05, 2023, 11:25:46 AM
I rarely see saudi player got big name. This is also the main reason saudi was prefer in buying the western player instead of developing their own players. We shall also go back to the main aim by saudi club to host 2030 world cup.
This is the only way to increase people's awareness to the saudi pro league. I remember when people considered the Saudi Pro League as a low-level league compared to other leagues like the Chinese League or even MLS..

Saudi is just trying to change that bad image owned by its football league.
Saudi Arabia know if football is the most popular sport and they want to popularize or make more money through football. Obviously they have spend a lot money for buying many European players, but in the long term, they have a chance to make money.

I'm not really sure with the other sports, but if Saudi Arabia is successfully popularize their country through signing European players in football, I believe they will do same to the other sports.
It looks like other sports will follow later and perhaps the only focus of the Saudis at the moment is to provide a place for everyone who wants to watch all the stars in the same place. We know the magical power of football is deeply embedded in the minds of almost everyone in the world and the Saudis succeeded did it without hesitation by spending so much money to get autograph from famous european players. I think Saudi will monitor the development of the results from the start of this season and if it goes well then there will be other things that they have definitely prepared to further retain their audience.
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September 05, 2023, 09:07:53 AM
It seems that Al-Hilal this season will really be a team to be afraid of in the Saudi Pro League. Because until now only Al-Hilal has not suffered defeat since the beginning of the season. And what surprised me was that Al-Hilal was able to beat Al-ittihad in the match 2 days ago. Benzema cs must submit to and accept their defeat. Even though both of them play very well. So I personally think a draw is more appropriate in this match. But it is still the final result that determines which team is superior. K. Koulibaly cs seems to be having a good day with AL-hilal.

Meanwhile, Al-Nassr is still struggling to cover their deficit due to 2 consecutive defeats in the first match. For now I am a fan of Al-Nassr. But honestly, I still see many gaps in some of the line-ups at Al-Nassr. As for Al-ittihad and Al-Hilal, I think they are getting more mature this season.
I prefer to say that Al-Hilal have rediscovered the strength they lost last season. And actually Al-Hilal's superiority in the SPL is nothing strange. Because Al-Hilal is the club that has won the most titles in the SPL. Even Al-Hilal has won in 3 consecutive seasons. So I wouldn't be surprised if this season they will also be strong candidates to win the title.

Al-Nassr is indeed an interesting team and currently many people have suddenly become Al-Nassr fans because CR7 is in it. I personally idolize CR7 so ​​I am on Al-Nassr's side. But we must realize that CR7 is now 38 years old. So I always admire this player because he still has strong stamina at his age. In fact, he often played 90 minutes at Al-Nassr. If he's not as good as he used to be then that's normal. Even he can still play like now is already an extraordinary thing. Even CR7 I think has brought change and increased the popularity of the Arab League today. I think his name will go down in history not only in Europe but also in the Arab League.

@BRINIRHA Al-Nassr can’t rely on Ronaldo to win every match and other stars too need to step up and help the team win matches. Lastly what are you’ll thoughts will Salah make a move on the last day because if the new rumour is true then Liverpool can’t turn down such a huge amount and while it may derail their current season but it’ll help them improve their finances for the long run.

Al nassr has so many super stars on its club. I think that the club is not always rely on him at this moment. It's unlikely to happen caused by there was also mane in the club. Nassr is still willing to add new player to its club as soon as possible.
Al ittihad may become the strongest competitor if salah will be coming there. Even though benzema has been giving awareness for him not to join but it's likely salah will agree. He will become the most expensive player in the world.
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September 05, 2023, 07:54:39 AM
Money has the power to bring about change. Saudi Arabia is currently ranked only 54th in FIFA. It is indeed no better than Mali. The media did report that this was an Arab move to improve the bad image of their case.  There have been cases like the murder of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi in 2018 at the hands of Saudi agents, and the devastating war that began in Yemen in 2015, and you're probably right they have a target of hosting the 2030 world cup.
The murder of Khashoggi in the Saudi embassy in Turkey is still fresh in my memory. And reports have shown that the Crown Prince ordered the hit. There are also several other human right issues that the Kingdom want to hide. Sports is just a means of achieving the task of changing the tainted image of the country. It would be a blunder for FIFA to give the hosting right of the 2030 World Cup to Saudi Arabis after the problems that were encountered in Qatar.

Saudi Arabia know if football is the most popular sport and they want to popularize or make more money through football. Obviously they have spend a lot money for buying many European players, but in the long term, they have a chance to make money.

I'm not really sure with the other sports, but if Saudi Arabia is successfully popularize their country through signing European players in football, I believe they will do same to the other sports.

Saudi clubs have not been prudent spenders so I doubt they will ever make a profit with such recklessness. The government is sponsoring four clubs and they have received funds to raid the European market. I don't think that the focus of the league is profit-making. Their aim is just to be recognized in the world that they have changed from their former strict religious beliefs. They want the world to see them as civilized and ready to connect with other cultures and beliefs.
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