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September 06, 2023, 12:56:39 AM
The match between Al Ahli vs Al Taawon in the middle of September will have a big impact on the standings, A win for the home team will be enough to help them to stay in the race for the championship but a loss or draw will give the away team an advantage to get stronger in second place in the standings, because Al Taawon currently together with Al Hilal have a one-point advantage over the team below them, like the Al Hilal vs Al Ittihad match some time ago changed the standings so this match will be the same.

LOL.. Al Ahli need some time to recover from the devastating loss that they suffered against Al Fateh. Anyway, they have 10 more days to prepare for their encounter with Al Taawoun. But before their loss to Al Fateh, they had won all 4 of their initial matches. They would have got promoted to the top of the table had they won against Al Fateh, but now they are at 4th place. BTW, their opponents (Al Taawoun) are ahead of them in the points table with 13 points (4 wins and 1 draw). So it is going to be a very tough match for them.
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September 06, 2023, 12:11:46 AM
FOR NOW its not a problem for european football, but i repeat FOR NOW, or NOT YET, whatever you prefer, because like you said, today they only own old players that are in his final efforts, or in the last of his carrer, or someone who for X reason dont have a space in the team, so they send him to another team to catch minute or make money.

But with 2 years of this transfers..... i can see a bad situation for european football. Lets see how all this develop.
Right NOT YET, until no one wants to watch matches from the leagues in Europe because all the great players are already in the Saudi pro league, all eyes will be on this league, how do we watch when several big clubs have bought players at high prices compete against a very weak team whose club valuation is only a few million euros so there will be a lot of goals scored maybe 7-0 or more than that, and that will be very beautiful to watch because there will be a lot of bagels on the scoreboard. I love this league  Wink

The match between Al Ahli vs Al Taawon in the middle of September will have a big impact on the standings, A win for the home team will be enough to help them to stay in the race for the championship but a loss or draw will give the away team an advantage to get stronger in second place in the standings, because Al Taawon currently together with Al Hilal have a one-point advantage over the team below them, like the Al Hilal vs Al Ittihad match some time ago changed the standings so this match will be the same.
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September 05, 2023, 11:27:31 PM
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Then about M. wrong. I think his decision to stay at Liverpool was the right decision. Because M is wrong at Liverpool is still a starter and is always a great goalscorer. So basically M Salah is very comfortable at Liverpool. How could it not be, he has been at Liverpool since 2017. Plus he still has two seasons remaining on his contract with Liverpool.
we all sometimes believe a little too much in rumors regarding Mohamed Salah move even though it is clear that Klopp has said that Mohamed Salah will not move anywhere and on the one hand, Salah also has no desire to leave Liverpool because this player really appreciates his team which has nurtured his talent to the point where Many people know their ability to score goals, so Klopp and Salah strength is very strong to stay at Liverpool. even though Ittihad offers a very large value for this player but Salah will not be tempted by the value offered because for Mohamed Salah talent in Europe is very important as long as he is still young to continue to develop his talent in European football and it seems Ittihad desire to get this player will only be a disappointment of hope not being able to bring in this talented player.
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September 05, 2023, 11:18:34 PM
Al-Nassr can’t rely on Ronaldo to win every match and other stars too need to step up and help the team win matches. Lastly what are you’ll thoughts will Salah make a move on the last day because if the new rumour is true then Liverpool can’t turn down such a huge amount and while it may derail their current season but it’ll help them improve their finances for the long run.
Al Nassr can be able to play tough games with the absence of their important players. The Knights of Najd are fortunate to have one of the biggest player in their club, since his arrival he has made alot of differences and has bring development and popularity to the club and SPL. Al Nassr is a broad club that always goes for what's definitely sets on their radar. Cristiano Ronaldo is a big name in football and his presence is always felt in the club. His performance is on different levels compared to other players in the team, he earned so much respect and have aided his team accumulated more significant points and accolades this season.
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September 05, 2023, 10:52:44 PM
Previously Yannick Carrasco was linked with Barca, but the final result should see Yannick Carrasco go to the Saudi League.
Al Shabab did not get good results in their first 5 matches. bringing in Yannick Carrasco is a pretty good move to strengthen their midfield. but it's possible that it won't be enough to change the game for the better. Al Shabab may have to bring in a few more players, like AL Nassr did when Ronaldo just came to the team. maybe Yannick Carrasco will need a lot of adjustment to his new team.

Unlike the case with Al Nassr or Al Hilal, Al Shabab doesn't have the luxury of being a recipient of cash inflows from Saudi Public Investment Fund. So they can't purchase anyone whom they want to include in their squad. Yannick Carrasco should be a decent addition, BTW. He can work in tandem with Gustavo Cuéllar, Carlos and Habib Diallo, and it will be a formidable combination to beat for other clubs. They had a great season last year, where they finished at no.4 (out of a total of 16 teams). And this time also, they will be aiming for a similar performance in the Saudi Professional League.
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September 05, 2023, 10:45:32 PM
Al-Nassr can’t rely on Ronaldo to win every match and other stars too need to step up and help the team win matches. Lastly what are you’ll thoughts will Salah make a move on the last day because if the new rumour is true then Liverpool can’t turn down such a huge amount and while it may derail their current season but it’ll help them improve their finances for the long run.

It is true and they know this. Bringing Ronaldo into the club was not to be dependent on him to win every game that would be too myopic of the club's  management. Rather what I think is that he is acting as a catalyst for the other teammates. To improve their performance to influence them to and we know that it is working. Ronaldo will not always be there, they want to birth more stars from the Arab world through him. As for Liverpool, Salah isn't going he has made his decision known.
Ronaldo is indeed a big star in the world of football. So it cannot be denied that when he is on the field, Ronaldo is a great player with truly stunning skills. Ronaldo is also someone who is an attraction for most people. But even so, to achieve perfect abilities, Ronaldo still needs adequate teammates and compensates for them. So that way, Al Nassr can't just rely on CR7 to be able to win every match. Because on a field, it contains 11 players who must work together with each other to create a good game and be able to win matches. So, if al Nassr only relied on one person, namely CR7, I think even though he is really great, this effort will not succeed. Moreover, until other players feel left out, I don't think there will be harmony within the team. Which results in the team's performance decreasing.

Then about M. wrong. I think his decision to stay at Liverpool was the right decision. Because M is wrong at Liverpool is still a starter and is always a great goalscorer. So basically M Salah is very comfortable at Liverpool. How could it not be, he has been at Liverpool since 2017. Plus he still has two seasons remaining on his contract with Liverpool.
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September 05, 2023, 10:04:29 PM
Yannick Carrasco could have much better options than playing for the Saudis. This 30-year-old palyer had one year left on his contract with Atletico Madrid and he asked the team to let him go.
Atletico Madrid earned 15 million from this deal which is a good amount of money for a palyer like Yannick Carrasco.
He signed a three-year contract with Al Shabab.




In the end, football is just like any other career option, and players usually change teams when they get an offer which is difficult to reject. Talking about Al Shabab, it is not one of the teams under the ownership of the Saudi Public Investment Fund. But despite that, the team management has been successful in attracting good players from around the world. Yannick Carrasco will get an opportunity to compete against Ronaldo, Neymar or Benzema whenever his team plays against Al Nassr or Al Hilal. So at this point, I don't think that there is a need to talk about this move in such a negative manner.
Previously Yannick Carrasco was linked with Barca, but the final result should see Yannick Carrasco go to the Saudi League.
Al Shabab did not get good results in their first 5 matches. bringing in Yannick Carrasco is a pretty good move to strengthen their midfield. but it's possible that it won't be enough to change the game for the better. Al Shabab may have to bring in a few more players, like AL Nassr did when Ronaldo just came to the team.
maybe Yannick Carrasco will need a lot of adjustment to his new team.
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September 05, 2023, 09:40:13 PM
Yannick Carrasco could have much better options than playing for the Saudis. This 30-year-old palyer had one year left on his contract with Atletico Madrid and he asked the team to let him go.
Atletico Madrid earned 15 million from this deal which is a good amount of money for a palyer like Yannick Carrasco.
He signed a three-year contract with Al Shabab.




In the end, football is just like any other career option, and players usually change teams when they get an offer which is difficult to reject. Talking about Al Shabab, it is not one of the teams under the ownership of the Saudi Public Investment Fund. But despite that, the team management has been successful in attracting good players from around the world. Yannick Carrasco will get an opportunity to compete against Ronaldo, Neymar or Benzema whenever his team plays against Al Nassr or Al Hilal. So at this point, I don't think that there is a need to talk about this move in such a negative manner.
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September 05, 2023, 07:15:19 PM
FOR NOW its not a problem for european football, but i repeat FOR NOW, or NOT YET, whatever you prefer, because like you said, today they only own old players that are in his final efforts, or in the last of his carrer, or someone who for X reason dont have a space in the team, so they send him to another team to catch minute or make money.

But with 2 years of this transfers..... i can see a bad situation for european football. Lets see how all this develop.
Well I don't really smell trouble for the European football given that, not all players would be interested in moving over there, we've seen cases where some players rejected juge offers from the SPL in this recent transfer window, and also the European learn far more better and developed than the SPL and alot of players would love to play in major tournaments in Europe than  down grading to the SPL.
 
 However it's nice to see that the Saudi clubs are now able to attract youngsters into their league, according to the news, Everton youngster Demarai Gray is so eager to switch to the Saudi side and has made it clear that he wants to move to AL-Ettifaq and theirs was an ongoing talks between both clubs and it's advancing to the final stage.

 Also everything is done on Gray's side  and both clubs are getting closer to an agreement, he's expected to sign a four year deal with AL-Ettifaq,  and it is said that he's already accepted a move to the club last week.
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September 05, 2023, 06:59:18 PM
The only downside for Carrasco is that he transferred to a fifth level team, and they are not good. If it was Hilal or Ahli or Nassr I would understand the situation and that would have made some sense without a doubt, but that doesn't seem to be the way he will go, he is going to a team where he is the only huge name.

I get that there are some other names there that people may know, but none that are amazing and big names neither. I think it should be important to just focus on how they can move forward with this. I get that it is going to be tough for him, but he is making good money he can't make anywhere else, so that should be important without a doubt, I think it should be the most important case for him.

Yannick Carrasco could have much better options than playing for the Saudis. This 30-year-old palyer had one year left on his contract with Atletico Madrid and he asked the team to let him go.
Atletico Madrid earned 15 million from this deal which is a good amount of money for a palyer like Yannick Carrasco.
He signed a three-year contract with Al Shabab.


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September 05, 2023, 06:39:28 PM
FOR NOW its not a problem for european football, but i repeat FOR NOW, or NOT YET, whatever you prefer, because like you said, today they only own old players that are in his final efforts, or in the last of his carrer, or someone who for X reason dont have a space in the team, so they send him to another team to catch minute or make money.

But with 2 years of this transfers..... i can see a bad situation for european football. Lets see how all this develop.
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September 05, 2023, 05:44:27 PM
Al-Nassr can’t rely on Ronaldo to win every match and other stars too need to step up and help the team win matches. Lastly what are you’ll thoughts will Salah make a move on the last day because if the new rumour is true then Liverpool can’t turn down such a huge amount and while it may derail their current season but it’ll help them improve their finances for the long run.

It is true and they know this. Bringing Ronaldo into the club was not to be dependent on him to win every game that would be too myopic of the club's  management. Rather what I think is that he is acting as a catalyst for the other teammates. To improve their performance to influence them to and we know that it is working. Ronaldo will not always be there, they want to birth more stars from the Arab world through him. As for Liverpool, Salah isn't going he has made his decision known.
The best players like Cristiano Ronaldo, Karim Benzema, Sadio Mane, Neymar Jr joined the Saudi league and took the league to unique heights. Thus, if Saudi clubs add good players from more European clubs in the next season, then European football will be under some threat.

I don't think like you and I don't think if Saudi League will ever be a problem for European football and threatening them because the Saudi teams can buy are usually older players and the superstar players with a good future in top teams will never join the Saudi League unless they are near to end their career.
A player like Ronaldo would never join the Saudi League in his good days.
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September 05, 2023, 04:06:12 PM
The only downside for Carrasco is that he transferred to a fifth level team, and they are not good. If it was Hilal or Ahli or Nassr I would understand the situation and that would have made some sense without a doubt, but that doesn't seem to be the way he will go, he is going to a team where he is the only huge name.

I get that there are some other names there that people may know, but none that are amazing and big names neither. I think it should be important to just focus on how they can move forward with this. I get that it is going to be tough for him, but he is making good money he can't make anywhere else, so that should be important without a doubt, I think it should be the most important case for him.
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September 05, 2023, 03:53:50 PM
You missed something that Al Hilal is now at the top of the standings, they also have quite a lot of stars. There is Aleksandar Mitovic, although he is not as famous as other top players, this player has scored four goals in his three matches with Al Hilal. apart from that, they have Malcom and also Neymar. these two players, can rotate each other. Apart from that, there are several other players who are quite established and really understand this competition. for example, Michael and also several local players who have qualities above the average for local players from other teams.

If Al Nassr targets to win this competition trophy, they must overthrow their toughest rivals. Apart from that, Al Ittìhad as defending champions will defend their title. rumor has it, they want Salah to join and deepen their team squad. If Mo Salah is finally brought from Liverpool, Al Ittihad will increasingly become a very competitive team. Thus, it is not an easy matter for Ronaldo and his colleagues to win this trophy easily, especially now that they are 4 points behind the top of the standings.
if Al Nassr achieves minor results, then their rivals will widen the gap in points. So, like it or not, Luis Carlo has to bring his team to win game after game. thus, they will reduce the points gap from the top spot. that way, the competition will be more exciting.
That's right, the battle for the championship trophy will be even tougher for Al Nassr this season. Saido Mane and Cristiano Ronaldo have to go the extra mile to secure points in each game, in the remaining time of the SPL transfer it is better for Al Nassr to add some good defenders. If not, it will be difficult for Al Nassr to keep up with Al Ittihad, Al Ahli, Al Hilal this season.

If M. Salah officially joins the SPL, we will see a spectacle like the European Champions League. Because they have names like Fermino, Neymar, Benzema, Ronaldo, Mane, Kante, Henderson and several others, we used to see them a lot in the UCL and now we watch them in the SPL.
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September 05, 2023, 03:12:30 PM
Saudi is just trying to change that bad image owned by its football league.

Money has the power to bring about change. Saudi Arabia is currently ranked only 54th in FIFA. It is indeed no better than Mali. The media did report that this was an Arab move to improve the bad image of their case.  There have been cases like the murder of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi in 2018 at the hands of Saudi agents, and the devastating war that began in Yemen in 2015, and you're probably right they have a target of hosting the 2030 world cup.

It cannot be denied that the 2030 World Cup is the first target the event will bring millions of people to Saudi to watch all the matches then after that they will continue with the next target of introducing the mega project that is being built, if all plans go according to target and succeed then the Saudi Pro League might also end I mean there is no more big news like bringing in star players because their target has been achieved. What is happening now is not for the long term, believe me, no one wants to spend that much money for nothing/return.
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September 05, 2023, 03:04:38 PM
There are 2 ways to build a great club the first as you said through the academy prepares young talent the 2nd way is to use the power of money Real Madrid is an example of success in using money,
The Saudi League decided to use the power of money to build their teams because they also need popularity, which they could get by signing top players, which is what’s currently happening.
Saudi doesn't have a strong basis in the football. Using its money to build the league has become the only way for the country to reach a higher level for its football. I have been also putting this as the main concern in this past which will be also kicking the local players from the club but there's no way to push it eevn higher other than use money as the main resources to make it happen.

Building their own players won’t really bring popularity to the league within the short period of time that they needed it, but as we all can see, since they signed Ronaldo, people started following the league, and the big signings that they made this season boosted their popularity, and even people that didn’t know much about the league before are beginning to follow the league due to the players that they signed. The money spent is not a waste because they are already achieving their aims. I can’t just imagine how Saudi league is going to be in the next few years to come.
I rarely see saudi player got big name. This is also the main reason saudi was prefer in buying the western player instead of developing their own players. We shall also go back to the main aim by saudi club to host 2030 world cup.
This is the only way to increase people's awareness to the saudi pro league. I remember when people considered the Saudi Pro League as a low-level league compared to other leagues like the Chinese League or even MLS..

Saudi is just trying to change that bad image owned by its football league.
The country's arrangement of the Saudi Premier League undoubtedly reveals that they are not thinking about their national team or football. They are now competing in the Football League. But if you consider it positively then you have to say that they have taken a good decision. They are having their league run by world famous players from which surely the players of that country can learn a lot. And who will get this benefit? Today, with players like Ronaldo, Neymar, if the Saudi players get a chance to play directly or enjoy their game, it is not less to catch their strategies. Now they get less opportunities but in the future their opportunities may increase. It is certainly not impossible to expect good things when exposed to good players.

As Saudi league is spending record amounts of money, they must be hoping for something better. Some football concern in Europe may be thinking something like China but Saudi can be said to be very successful already. In the meantime some others European coaches and team managers feel that this league is now becoming their biggest rival.
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September 05, 2023, 03:04:23 PM
Al-Nassr can’t rely on Ronaldo to win every match and other stars too need to step up and help the team win matches. Lastly what are you’ll thoughts will Salah make a move on the last day because if the new rumour is true then Liverpool can’t turn down such a huge amount and while it may derail their current season but it’ll help them improve their finances for the long run.

It is true and they know this. Bringing Ronaldo into the club was not to be dependent on him to win every game that would be too myopic of the club's  management. Rather what I think is that he is acting as a catalyst for the other teammates. To improve their performance to influence them to and we know that it is working. Ronaldo will not always be there, they want to birth more stars from the Arab world through him. As for Liverpool, Salah isn't going he has made his decision known.
The best players like Cristiano Ronaldo, Karim Benzema, Sadio Mane, Neymar Jr joined the Saudi league and took the league to unique heights. Thus, if Saudi clubs add good players from more European clubs in the next season, then European football will be under some threat.
I didn't think that far ahead and looking at the prospects I saw a similar pattern to the previous China League which brought in top players from European leagues at fantastic prices and salaries but their popularity was only temporary.
And another reason, even though Saudi Arabia often participates in the World Cup, Saudi Arabia is not a country that has a football culture as strong as Europe.

Yes, I hope I'm not right. But in my opinion that is impossible to happen even though the Saudi League brings in a lot of top European players, and for Cristiano Ronaldo, Karim Benzema, Sadio Mane, Neymar Jr, they are not what they used to be and it's all because of money.
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September 05, 2023, 02:10:04 PM
Al nassr has so many super stars on its club. I think that the club is not always rely on him at this moment. It's unlikely to happen caused by there was also mane in the club. Nassr is still willing to add new player to its club as soon as possible.
Al ittihad may become the strongest competitor if salah will be coming there. Even though benzema has been giving awareness for him not to join but it's likely salah will agree. He will become the most expensive player in the world.

You missed something that Al Hilal is now at the top of the standings, they also have quite a lot of stars. There is Aleksandar Mitovic, although he is not as famous as other top players, this player has scored four goals in his three matches with Al Hilal. apart from that, they have Malcom and also Neymar. these two players, can rotate each other. Apart from that, there are several other players who are quite established and really understand this competition. for example, Michael and also several local players who have qualities above the average for local players from other teams.

If Al Nassr targets to win this competition trophy, they must overthrow their toughest rivals. Apart from that, Al Ittìhad as defending champions will defend their title. rumor has it, they want Salah to join and deepen their team squad. If Mo Salah is finally brought from Liverpool, Al Ittihad will increasingly become a very competitive team. Thus, it is not an easy matter for Ronaldo and his colleagues to win this trophy easily, especially now that they are 4 points behind the top of the standings.
if Al Nassr achieves minor results, then their rivals will widen the gap in points. So, like it or not, Luis Carlo has to bring his team to win game after game. thus, they will reduce the points gap from the top spot. that way, the competition will be more exciting.
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September 05, 2023, 12:17:36 PM
Al-Nassr can’t rely on Ronaldo to win every match and other stars too need to step up and help the team win matches. Lastly what are you’ll thoughts will Salah make a move on the last day because if the new rumour is true then Liverpool can’t turn down such a huge amount and while it may derail their current season but it’ll help them improve their finances for the long run.

It is true and they know this. Bringing Ronaldo into the club was not to be dependent on him to win every game that would be too myopic of the club's  management. Rather what I think is that he is acting as a catalyst for the other teammates. To improve their performance to influence them to and we know that it is working. Ronaldo will not always be there, they want to birth more stars from the Arab world through him. As for Liverpool, Salah isn't going he has made his decision known.
The best players like Cristiano Ronaldo, Karim Benzema, Sadio Mane, Neymar Jr joined the Saudi league and took the league to unique heights. Thus, if Saudi clubs add good players from more European clubs in the next season, then European football will be under some threat.
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September 05, 2023, 12:16:41 PM

But usually the different places of the character of the community so do not have to use the same method, this kind of thing cannot be compared from both, as you say the standard of life in Saudi Arabia is different, but in my opinion they also get a different payment offer, humans have Eve want to be successful in their respective hobbies and humans also have high hopes or greed in this case, if the payments given by the soccer team are much more expensive in the academy or team they enter, it will be enough to motivate in my opinion.
The Saudi's know that it might take quite a long time to build their academy and based the fact that most of their youth players are not playing up to the standard of attracting other to their sports they decided to use the strategy of signing European players from top clubs to help attract viewers and so far it's payed off this season, because this new players they got are now making the league more competitive and interesting to watch as well as helping to build the youth side into future prospects, with their experience playing alongside them.
 The Saudi's are not like most South Americans that depend solely on future to elevate their families from poverty they're already financially stable need the experience of the top players to help build their league and the price they have to pay is using their financial capabilities to attract them into their league even though it means overspending, which is ongoing currently.
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